Has anyone looked into this? With the audio now being output there, is there another pin carrying video that's yet undiscovered? Thanks.
nope no video out from what ive researched. even if there were, its qvga resolution so you are fairly limited.
you could your soti pocket controller to control your pda from your PC, you get a real time feed of you ppc on your pc.
hope this helps.
adios...
It is definitely possible to do it (even that I have no idea how).
Ateksoft has a program called WebCamera Plus which let you use your PDA as real-time webcam.
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
I'm using it on my TyTN and it works great.
using a pda or symbian smart phone as a webcam is possible as the software captures the straming video and transmits its as data packetrs via usb or BT to a PC, in which it is then decoded on the PC and the image/video stream from the camera is formed.
Actual video out (such as that accomplished with notebooks) via usb on the TYTN is another thing - from what I have read it might not be possible.
Anyone seen or tried the MicroSD version of this http://www.spectec.com.tw/sdv.htm ?
its really funny u askd this cus just last night b4 I went to bed, I wondered the same thing
I googled video out via usb and found a 60 dollar cable that converted from standard usb to s-video and audio and I'm sure theres mini-usb to usb converter
=) so hope that helps. I'd look it up but I have no 3g here at my parents lake house =/ I'm connectd over gsm, just got here. I get no umts at all and barely any gsm signal. this craps slow
I looked on the net for the Spectec Video-To-Go microSD Card and found it here
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=139433&partner=froogle
It's $171.95. this would be great if I was still doing customer presentations.
Please note: This product does not convert the screen’s image into a VGA video signal. ... then what exactly does this do .. has me confused since some time ...
Also, these things require SDIO support .. not sure if TyTN got one ..
It'd be easy enough to emulate VGA on your device and use that for presentations, but your limitation is lack of an I/O to the graphic chip. As such, you're stuck with streaming the display data, which will be slow (for games), but perhaps perfectly fine for a slideshow.
Next prob though is the hardware - you can stream from device to device, but not stream from device to a (mini-usb) wire to a projector etc - at least the hardware issues are well beyond my experience.
A streaming projector might be a good solution. But all in, I think you're generally stuck for a cheap solution to outputing video over USB without a surrogate device in the middle. And if you're gonna have a surrogate, you might as well use that as the display device.
Check out nyditot for a VGA emulator.
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May I suggest a better way? Simply install PC-based Powerpoint viewer on storage card. That way you merely need to drop your card into an USB SD reader, connect the reader to any host PC, and run your presentation. I do this often and avoid traveling with my laptop.
-Jeff
One reason I've always disliked the Ateksoft solution is that it requires installation of Ateksoft magicry on the PC. A true webcam solution should simply make the PPC act like a dumb webcam, piping the audio and video to the USB. We've all experienced those cheap webcams which you just plug in to your USB port, and MSN or Yahoo or whatever can pick up the device as an audio/video webcam, no installation of drivers required.
Software which does for webcam what Softick does for USB mass storage is what I'm after...
You didn't say what you wanted by 'video out'.. but I can tell you there aren't any 'unused' pins in the USB pinout. They're all audio or usb data. If the TYTN supported usb on the go (which it doesn't seem to) then you might see it turn into a mass storage device or webcam easily..
But for the moment, no, theres no pins to tap a composite or vga signal off of. I highly doubt the device has such a chip on board.
eh, I wanted to output video to my car A/V system. since I can sync the video on my device to my media center, that would be the easiest way to take shows to my car. so the streaming or flash solutions really don't address the problem for me...thanks for all of the thinking on it, though
ditto here
JEM said:
eh, I wanted to output video to my car A/V system. since I can sync the video on my device to my media center, that would be the easiest way to take shows to my car. so the streaming or flash solutions really don't address the problem for me...thanks for all of the thinking on it, though
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That's the kinda stuff i've always wanted e.i. connecting my PDA to the SVideo Input of my car screen.
Seems "easy" to do with activesync, but seems to cause trouble because of the lack of video stream on usb pinout.
I'm just letting out an idea : Might be possible to emulate an activesync connection and capture the sreeen of the PDA and broadcast it out on svideo.
(don't ask, I don't even have a clue of how to do that)
SOTI Pocket controler and My Mobiler can do that, any chance someone find out a way ?
TY Guys, have fun
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hello all,
Is it possible to have av-out on my wm5 device?
I have an mini usb with on the other end a red and a yellow plug.
i've already tried to connect but it just doesn't work.
is there any application i can use so i can connect to my tv via av???
My phone is a orange M600 aka prophet with latest dopod rom.
TIA
rebelish, that is just not going to work. I mean that is not a PC usb port. First its a mini-usb, second its not got all the WinXP functions which enable it to be so.
What might be a solution is to have a SD Socket AV-out (haven't seen any), or even try it through wifi... There is a program (forgot the name) which transfers the picture to the PC through wifi, but probably does not work for video.
Cheers.
A.) most PDA USB ports are slave, meaning normal addons will not work on them
B.) there are indeed SDIO cards that provide a VGA/AV output
The only pda I've seen with video out is the Dell x51v. I'm guessing it's a fair custom job, using more than just a mini-usb cable.
ok Thanks everybody for all the clear answers.
I do think it's a shame that we don't have that function already in our pocketpc's but than again we can't have it all.
I think i'am going for the bluetooth pal adaptor now because with that one can do the job wireless and i can show my 2Mega pixel pics on my tv screen.
everybody thanx again
cheers
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I see in these sites a SDIO TV Tuner and A SDIO FM Tuner
Do they work with athena?
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4782.html
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=43515
Not much of a help here, but that's what I think
Radio, I can get a radio for £1 which I think those SDIO stuff will cost much more than that, and consider that it may also takes up my phone battery. It is ok that you stop listening to radio, but having a phone with dead battery isn't very good.
TV: The SDIO seems small enough, but I wonder how big an antenna it needs. I have those WinTV USB adapter, which has a size of a PC mouse and seemingly portable. However, it won't work unless I have a massive antenna attached to it. At my area, even with the massive antenna with booster still gives me relatively poor quality. Just make sure you will be using it on a good signal area.
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Not much of a help here, but that's what I think
Radio, I can get a radio for £1 which I think those SDIO stuff will cost much more than that, and consider that it may also takes up my phone battery. It is ok that you stop listening to radio, but having a phone with dead battery isn't very good.
TV: The SDIO seems small enough, but I wonder how big an antenna it needs. I have those WinTV USB adapter, which has a size of a PC mouse and seemingly portable. However, it won't work unless I have a massive antenna attached to it. At my area, even with the massive antenna with booster still gives me relatively poor quality. Just make sure you will be using it on a good signal area.
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tanX Radio is not very imporstant
but TV Tuner on mobile is very interesting
i want to know to they work with athena or no?
that thing you say work with athena or no?
is there any Bluetooth TV Tuner like Bluetooth GPS Reciver?
tanX
Wow - thats lucky, I was just thinking about this.
I was wondering how feezable it might be to use a WinTV type tuner with a WM5 device, namely the Athena via the external USB cable. I can get a reasonable signal here where I am on DVB-T, and it would be cool to be able to listen to the radio/watch TV via the Ameo without needing a seperate 'remote' device. I currently have the WinTV hooked upto our desktop machine @ work for this purpose, but it would be good to be able to do it via Ameo. You used to be able to get a CF TV adapter for Windows Mobile devices, but it was anallog and used seperate batteries to run the tuner.
Three problems, would the Ameo have the raw processing power to be able to do decoding of the data coming in from the TV tuner. I.e., Does the USB Stick do the decoding then the computer/pda just have to display the image/control the tuner e.t.c.
and
Drivers:- I'm guessing drivers arn't available from Hauppage/someone else, but I believe linux drivers are. For an intelligent programmer (not me ), would it be difficult to convert the drivers to WM5?
Power:- Would the Ameo be able to supply enough power to powerup the USB Stick - I'm guessing the battery would wear down pretty quickly if it could (not a problem if running on mains, like id expect to do).
Another alternative for WinTV decoder would be to install the TV Tuner on your home pc and then watch the home pc via orb.com. This would allow you to have cable and/or satellite connected at home and be able to watch live tv on your athena.
A better solution if it is available in your country is to purchase Sling Tv Tuner and watch Cable/Satellite tv on Athena. The picture quality of SLing is a little better and you don't have to leave your PC on all the time.
I find the sling tv tuner better, but others like ORB because you can also stream mp3 or other videos also.
Check them out at
www.orb.com (need a tv tuner card to watch tv)
www.slingmedia.com
Yeah, I've considered the sling, but the problems with it are that a) I'm not allowed access via our corporate firewall and b) I'm 'technically' on a data plan that doesn't allow for streaming services. Unfortunatly I'm 100m shy of being able to access the BT Openzone that's around here, so no chance for me to connect that way either.
Also seen a few comments on here that says the Sling Resolution on the Ameo is rubbish, which kinda puts me off a bit.
Its not something I was desperate for, but it would be quite a cool function to be able to connect up a USB tuner!
tv +radio
i have ameo and i have tv and radio all the time over umts
in my home i have some dreamboxes. ( dvb-s sat and dvb-c cable recievers...
1 of this nice box is with audio& video cable connected with a small server .
on this server runs windows media server 9
over internet i can choose programm ( http://amd.co.at/anti/webif.png ) and server give me this signal via umts to my ameo.. thats all
very fine quality and good sound
i use tmobile flat rate / non traffic and all good run..
regards
I'm using my Slingbox Pro with my x7500 and it works great. Just used it last night to control my cable box while eating at my favorite Italian restaurant.
The Athena has a MiniSD slot so SDIO devices will not work with it.
Bluetooth TV tuner
Anyone take a look at this:
http://www.permian.com.cn/en/products_06.asp
Looks interesting. Does not show any details for pricing or anything else.
I gave thought to the idea of using the Athena as a DVR - ability to record from external sources (TV, DVD, etc) in similar fashion to an Archos device etc.
Could someone with technical knowledge enlighten us about this possibility please?
Peace all over.
Im not certain of the devices capabilities, but I do know it sports the ability to be a USB host, and uses USB 2.0 and seems to have moderately quick internal data bandwidth coupled with a sizeable hardrive !! all this coupled with the fact that it has been done before as a Compact flash add on for any PDA with a CF slot !! and ultimately yes I think it is possible, and maybe even all that is required is a re-write of the BTwincap driver to allow many of the USB TV capture devices to run on win mobile instead of a normal computer.
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I do know it sports the ability to be a USB host, and uses USB 2.0
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The specs tell only about USB1.1 host. There is an USB2.0 chip in Athena
( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AthenaResearch ) but i guess it is used to connect the 8GB disk.
even USB 1.1 is more than good enough for 320X240 25 FPS video capture with stereo sound !!
Specifically, HTC Fuze as USB computer speaker - possible?
It may be too complicated a hack, but I would like to use the speakerphone of my HTC Fuze (Raphael) as a cheap USB speaker for my computer, for when my 100 watt stereo speakers would be too loud and when I don't feel like wearing headphones.
Just a kinda funny but fairly unnecessary usage scenario. So, how to do it, and is it even possible?
pretty sure that pda's can performe the tast of an usbSoundcard
but when connected to activesync the pda would have the same network
as the pc and as so being able to map a shared network drive and play music from it
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...able to map a shared network drive and play music from it
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Thanks, but I need it to output games and application sounds, not mp3s.
Not sure if it would need a WinMo driver, an xp driver, or what. Maybe record computer's sound in realtime and play file from disk, also in realtime? Some sort of streaming? Just throwing out ideas. I have no idea how to make it work.
you would need a dummy sound driver on the pc and then a "server" app on the pc feeding a socket which the client driver on the pda would play
but you could never get it to do it real time
even if you used 2 pc's rather then a pda in the client end
and the pda would slow it down even more
but you could do it over bluetooth if the bluetooth device in your pc supported audiogateway then the pda would work as a soundcard for the pc
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but you could do it over bluetooth if the bluetooth device in your pc supported audiogateway then the pda would work as a soundcard for the pc
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Thanks Rudegar! Too bad about USB, but that sounds even better. Knew I should have gotten a fancy bluetooth adapter for my computer instead of a wifi one!
they are pretty cheap just make sure you get one with a good newer broadcom bluetooth stack software
hi
i dont know if this has been covered (the search didnt find anything relevant)
is there a hack / way for video or tv out on this device??
thanks
zohaer21 said:
hi
i dont know if this has been covered (the search didnt find anything relevant)
is there a hack / way for video or tv out on this device??
thanks
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I am also interested by that.
Any ideas?
Basically, I would like to know if TV out is possible to connect it to my car entertainment device that I am planning to buy :
Din 1, 7 inch with DVD, GPS, Bluetoth, USB.
This will transform this device to a mobile device with a large screen from where I can surf, chat, play games etc...(launch all apps from the HTC HD2)
Any ideas?
It's not possible. Sorry, but it really is that simple.
Thanks for the answer.
Is this because of the harware that does not support it or is it because there is no driver developped by HTC?
i really think thats a driver problem only Maybe there is a way to stream video signal over wifi or bluetooth? it's kinda strange thing to do but i think it's possible using a software?
I read in a forum that via the 3,5mm jack it might be possible to video out (it was for another phone).
If Hardware does not support it via micro USB, we are stuck I guess,
If it is a driver issue, xda gurus might develep one,
If micro USB does not support it, what about the 3,5 mm jack?
I am not an expert at all, but I am just brainstorming...
Any thoughts?
This is the message I got rom HTC Support
Thank you for your enquiry about HTC HD2
To answer question 1 and 2, the HD2 does not support video out as it does not have a built in video out socket nor would you be able to achieve this via the 3,5mm jack.
It is not a built in function to handle this via bluetooth I could only suggest you try to look up some 3rd party program, but I could not provide support for this.
Best regards,
Dennis
HTC
Well actually, the HD2 does support video out! Using myMobiler you can display in full screen on your PC what's going on on your HD2. And if in turn, you connect your PC to your TV you could also watch your HD2 on your 50'' Full HD TV screen
OK, I'm joking here, the quality would be terrible, but still, it goes to show that it's possible to have video come out from the micro USB port and be displayed on a much larger screen, so maybe someone will go one step further!
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Well actually, the HD2 does support video out! Using myMobiler you can display in full screen on your PC what's going on on your HD2. And if in turn, you connect your PC to your TV you could also watch your HD2 on your 50'' Full HD TV screen
OK, I'm joking here, the quality would be terrible, but still, it goes to show that it's possible to have video come out from the micro USB port and be displayed on a much larger screen, so maybe someone will go one step further!
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Mon pot
I basically wanted to connect my HD2 to a Car Entertaniement device which has a 7 inch touch-screen, 'genre auto-radio', (7 ' Din1, DVD, GPS, Bluetooth, USB) in order to take advantage of all features/applications from the HTC (Google maps, dictionnaires, enclyclopedia, 3G, opera, chat etc).
Mymobiler will not help at all.
The HTC Touch Pro supports the video-out; The HTC DH2 does not support it as it is now. I have seen on http://wmpoweruser.com/ a guy making a video out cable for this LG eXpo. Check the video. Why can't we do it?
It shouldn't be difficult to make a video out cable...
Via a redfly?
If you were really committed, you could grab a Celiocorp Redfly, wait until they release the HD2 driver, then use the media cable to output to video...
Then, for the transmission of the video, you could use either bluetooth or micro-USB.
So it's technically possible with the right hardware...
The closest thing you'll get to TV out on the HD2 is the ability to set it as a media server, but that will require some kind of media browser client. I've done this with my PS3 and a Nokia N95, but the software is currently under development for the WM platform.
See here...
http://mobileosgi.blogspot.com/2009/08/dlna-media-server-for-smart-phones.html
Incidentally, they use a PS3 on the demo video, but that is not required. Also, you can use this to stream video, not just pictures.
problem is
phones that output through the 3.5 jack have an extra connector inside the socket to carry the image channel so there is no way to adapt a standard 3.5 output to carry video regardless of software. (not taking mine apart to look if its 2 or 3 chanel of course hehe)
as for through the usb im less sure but i'd guess it would only be able to send to host devices and not client peripherals. course, I'd be more than happy to be told otherwise.
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I'd be more than happy to be told otherwise.
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i wish some one finds out how to do this.. but i just did a quick search on google and what i found out was that none of the snap dragon processor based winmo devices do video out
guess ill be keeping my iphone 3gs (cos i need video out )
i just played with the hd2 today and boy im gonna miss not having it
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i just did a quick search on google and what i found out was that none of the snap dragon processor based winmo devices do video out
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The processor has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the device can output video. It needs specific hardware to do this and it is not included in this device, neither through the USB port or the 3.5mm jack socket.
It is 100% impossible to implement a "fix" for this with software because the device simply does not have the hardware required.
Actually, Snapdragon processors DO support TV-Out. The Acer s200 (neo touch) and Toshiba TG01 both run on Snapdragon and support TV-Out. What I think the problem is, is that the hardware is there, but HTC just haven't implemented it. Meaning that they simply have not connected the function. Which is actually a shame as this was the only thing the pushed me away from this spectacular device and choose the Omnia B7610 instead, because it is a better all round device.
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Actually, Snapdragon processors DO support TV-Out. The Acer s200 (neo touch) and Toshiba TG01 both run on Snapdragon and support TV-Out. What I think the problem is, is that the hardware is there, but HTC just haven't implemented it. Meaning that they simply have not connected the function. Which is actually a shame as this was the only thing the pushed me away from this spectacular device and choose the Omnia B7610 instead, because it is a better all round device.
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You need a lot more than just processor support for TV out functionality, so the hardware is not there. Some of it is, but only 1 small part.
Exactly! That's why I was disappointed with the HD2. Seeing as Acer and Tosh both implemented the tv out functionality from the core, why didn't HTC do the same? Surely it wouldn't cost them THAT much more would it?
As far as I understand, this is a hardware related issue and not driver related? If it is driver related, I am sure one day this driver would be coded and made available in this forum.
I was palnning to video out to my car DVD entertainment touch screen device in order to be able to use google maps, opera, dictionnaries etc..
This plan will ne be feasible then...
You can use the hd2 as an usb-stick. With that function i can view movies and listen to music on my Alpine touchscreen radio.