Just got this phone thinking it was 3G and I dont think that I am getting DSL speeds. Can anyone help me or direct me to the info. about the phones usage and if it is able to be used as 3G in USA on Cingulars network. THanks a million.
Sorry dude, the hardware radio used in the device is not compatible with Cingular's 3G... Nor is it likely that you can use it with T-mobile's upcoming HSDPA service, the US military still owns the exact radio band the Uni would need to use in the US.
you don't get DSL speeds on 3G anyway, the max is 384Kbps.
unless you have really slow DSL across the pond! here the average is 8Mbps, I'm on 24Mbps.
Thank you for the Information. That helps out a lot knowing that this phone is not what I thought it was when I bought it. Oh well, you live and learn. Thanks again for the Info.
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I hear its third generation, like faster internet, well I have t-mobile gprs, will it be faster?...
Like GPRS but instead of 10k speeds, u get 300-500k speeds (depending on your MNO). Naturally u eat up costs faster too...
Also allows video phone
craigiecraigie4 said:
Like GPRS but instead of 10k speeds, u get 300-500k speeds (depending on your MNO). Naturally u eat up costs faster too...
Also allows video phone
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Well, I have T-Mobile unlimited GPRS internet plan within the United States, so if I got this my internet would be insanely fast?
It only works if u r in a 3G coverage area. But yes, I'm using mine as a modem whilst out of the office, and it's not far off being connected to adsl. In my country I pay US$0.15/Mb which means u can hit a Gig without feeling any pain what-so-ever.
How could I find out if T-Mobile in the United States supports 3G?
imablackhat said:
How could I find out if T-Mobile in the United States supports 3G?
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Umm... ask T-Mobile?
I didn't think the US had 3G. :?:
Dude,
THere is no 3G coverage in the entire North America.
Forget about 3G in US.
markyeungcy said:
Dude,
THere is no 3G coverage in the entire North America.
Forget about 3G in US.
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man, I hate the US, sometimes I wish I lived elsewhere.
markyeungcy said:
Dude,
THere is no 3G coverage in the entire North America.
Forget about 3G in US.
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actually thats not true, Cingular is rolling out HSDPA very soon, and that very close to ADSL speeds and you can also do voice and data at the same time, try that with verizon's EvDO, you cant because verison ev-DO stands for Evolution Data Only, s
HEy, imablackcat,
Tmo USA just unrolled Edge in many places, and will be expanding, and is shooting to have 3g in 4th quater 2007. Stop whining, USA is about 3 years or so behind the rest of the world in a lot of technology: cell phones being one of them. We can iether suck it up, or move to Europe......
Good luck!
EDGE won;t work on the JJ, nor will HSDPA I'm afraid.
HSDPA is sometimes called 4G - it's potentially magnitudes faster that 3G - easily 3Gig transfer rates - depending on MNO's allowed bandwidth.
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How could I find out if T-Mobile in the United States supports 3G?
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I was under the impression that after AT&T merged with Cingular they then started rolling out UMTS this year. I think you can get 3G in limited places. Phone them and ask.
Just wanted to know what service plans would be good for JasJar in the USA.
I use T-Mobile but of course we americans are lagging behind on mobile technology communications. I find I cannot use half of the features and it doesnt even have EDGE support. So wondering if any of you have T-Mobile in the USA and what service/internet plans are you using? :?:
I find I cannot use half of the features
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That's a bit of an exageration. The only thing you cannot use is 2100MHz UTMS. Everything else works fine.
You really only have Cingular and T-Mobile from which to pick in the US. Cingular has more coverage, but there are some 850MHz areas where the JasJar will not function as a phone. The TMo $20 unlimited gprs plan is pretty sweet. As others have lamented, the only thing this phone is missing (mostly for those of us on this side of the pond) is a quad-band radio, and EDGE or 1900MHz UTMS.
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The TMo $20 unlimited gprs plan is pretty sweet.
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I definitely have to second this. I've looked at other plans, Cingular as well as going something "non-sim" before I got the Jasjar, and nothing seemed to come close to the $20 unlimited data with TMo. My minutes and data combined with TMo are less than the unlimited data alone with some others.
It all depends on your needs though. I don't spend a lot of time in areas that aren't covered by TMo, so that issue is moot and price can play a larger factor for me.
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ahh I see your point. I just got the $20.00 unlimited data plan. Is there anything special needed to get it started. Does anybody know if Tmo will start coming out with 3G networks?
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ahh I see your point. I just got the $20.00 unlimited data plan. Is there anything special needed to get it started. Does anybody know if Tmo will start coming out with 3G networks?
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Unfortunately, the news on 3G networks in the USA is not very good for us Universal owners. Cingular has already started to implement their 3G service in a few markets in the US and will be expanding their 3G service in 2006. I haven't heard anything about T-Mobile's 3G plans yet. Unfortunately, however, Cingular's 3G network works at 1900MHz and T-Mobile's most likely will as well. This means that even if Cingular or T-Mobile provide 3G service the Universal won't work with it, because the Universal only supports 3G at 2100MHz.
In the US, the 2100MHz band currently belongs to the US Military and there are rumors that that band may be made available to cell phone providers in 2007, but even if that happens, but the time the band is available and the service providers start using it I'm sure that my universal will be obsolete.
I'm using a Universal in the USA right now, but I don't expect to ever be able to use it on a 3G network here.
Brett
EDGE on MDA Pro/JasJar
So you're saying EDGE won't work on the MDA Pro? According to T-Mobile, EDGE is already in place in most of its US network. Also, GPRS to EDGE from the providers standpoint basically involved a software update. Can this be done on the MDA Pro as well?
One final question. Anyone know how I can find out if my MDA Pro has the latest rom and where to get updates. My phone came from Germany (T-Mobile)?
The Universal does not do Edge afaik. The HTC Wizzard does do edge. So the only difference between the two for US users (who cant use 2100MHz UMTS) is the low res screen on the wizzard, and the fact that the wizzard is a whole lot more portable. Oh and the mini SD port!
Here in the UK, none of the networks support edge, which is a bit of a pain for wizzard owners! I would have had a wizzard for the smaller size if edge were available in UK, or if wizzard was 3G !
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If I choose then to sell may MDA Pro, what would you recommend as being the most comparable item that will at least work with EDGE and UMTS @ 1900 in the USA. I am otherwise very satisfied but one reason why I paid a premium price was to have something that would not be obsolete too soon, be able to work with the next generation (3G) and be downward compatible (EDGE, GPRS).
I am happily using T-Mobile in the USA. I bought the jasjar knowing that I would be limited to GPRS on the data side. Its many other advantages make the compromise worth it to me.
I am happily using T-Mobile in the USA. I bought the jasjar knowing that I would be limited to GPRS on the data side. Its many other advantages make the compromise worth it to me.
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I too am using my JasJar with T-Mobile in the US and am quite happy with the service. I recognize that I will not be able to use 3G with this device, but I'm OK with that. For me the features of the device far outweigh that single drawback.
Chaps,
My other half uses her O2 xda Exec with a work supplied 3G vodafone SIM. It works fine in the UK and she did a good job getting it set up with the right 3G UK vodafone settings etc- well done her!
Question is...
She's now working in the USA for a few days. The xda has found a network and can use it - great stuff but no 3G....
How can she determine what network its using over there - is this selectable somewhere (I couldn't find the option)?
Based on the network what would the settings be to allow her to use 3G!? Anyone help?
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USA doesn't have 3G. It's also why the universal isnt popular in USA. I feel sorry for em. :lol:
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USA doesn't have 3G. It's also why the universal isnt popular in USA. I feel sorry for em. :lol:
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Oh bugger! You mean we're ahead of America on something!?
I can't believe silicon valley doesn't have 3G, I guess they have wireless hotspot all over....
T-Mobile US have mumbled something about enabling UMTS "in 2006" but I rather want to see it than hear about it.
The rest of the US carriers use fancy 1xRTT data protocols over CDMA networks - not compatible with GSM. People in the US still wonder what the "G" stands for ;-)
Blame it on our military. Those bands are owned by the US Gov. Just recently I have heard news of businesses getting access to those bands. And there was much rejoicing...
who ever said the us doesn't have 3G?
i live in houston and when i got the universal i did some reaserch:
i found that verison wireless has 3G on their devices, but they dont use sim cards, so they wont help...
but i now have cingular wireless, and it works great, but it is a bit pricy...
i believe about $45 per month...
so if you were just going to visit the us, then i would sugest to you that you go with t-mobile using the GPRS,
yes i know it is slow, but if you are only going to be using it for a little bit i think it would be fine. I believe the GPRS is $19.99.
so it really depends if you really think you need the 3G service...
if you dont think so then get GPRS, the exec can use it, and its not all that bad
It is true that the US does not have 3G but your Tri-Band GSM device will work perfectly fine. With the proper settings you can even surfe the WEB at 32k just no high speed for things like video calls.
I use my Exec quite often in various places in the US without any problems.
Just got this phone thinking it was 3G and I dont think that I am getting DSL speeds. Can anyone help me or direct me to the info. about the phones usage and if it is able to be used as 3G in USA on Cingulars network. THanks a million.
can somebody please tell me what kind of speeds i should be getting with barnacle wifi as i am only able to get between 45kbs and 50 kbs even when i use wifi tether the speeds are the same.can i get faster speeds or is this normal my phone is rooted thank you for your time
I thought Barnacle just shared the phone's internet (3g) through wifi to your PC.
correct me if I'm wrong...
well, it all depends on your reception and the type of connection (EDGE/3G) you're on.
I am in LA area, on AT&T and I can usually get anywhere from 512kbps - 2-2.75mbps down.
Judging from your speed, I am guessing your phone is only on EDGE. Which x10 (x10i/x10a) do you have? what carrier are you using? and where are you located?
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thanks for the replies i am newto this. my phone is x10i i am on t-mobile and in the uk if this helps thanks
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thanks for the replies i am newto this. my phone is x10i i am on t-mobile and in the uk if this helps thanks
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i got about 3 Mbps downlink from T-mobile US. I am using the x10i as well... Again it really depends on the area you are living....
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thanks for the info. is there anyway i can speed it up or is it bite my tounge and hope it gets better with the 2.1 update