PIE cache to storage card? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Ok, I use newsbreak for RSS feeds and it seems to use PIE like a virtual browser... I have to clear the web content (cache) in PIE multiple times a day to free up memory on my device.
Is there a way I can get PIE to store this on my storage card and not the onboard memory? Also, is there a way to make it auto delete?

i used Pocket Mechanic to move the cache to my storage card. there are probably easier and cheaper ways (although i used a free trial download)

MemMaid also gives you an option to use the storage card for the PIE's cache...goes for $14.95, a bit cheaper than Pocket Mechanic

SK Tools can be in help. Also search Wiki for corresponding registry entries.
But note that the cache's index files are opened by the system always, and therefore you may have problems with the device wake ups, or if you remove the card...

MemMaid from DynaSoft can do that for you. it has all other useful tolls to keep your memory clean anytime. strongly recommended.
http://www.dinarsoft.com/memmaid/details.html

I don't know I must be doing something wrong as I have tried to accomplish this several times on my Jasjar using both SKTools as well as Memaid. Initially everything works well but after some usage my PIE starts closing by itself abruptly.
Has anyone else experienced this and any suggestions please.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards

srmz said:
I don't know I must be doing something wrong as I have tried to accomplish this several times on my Jasjar using both SKTools as well as Memaid. Initially everything works well but after some usage my PIE starts closing by itself abruptly.
Has anyone else experienced this and any suggestions please.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards
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Try optimizing your storage card for speed; see my article on all this stuff at http://pocketpcmag.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17921
If it doesn't help, then, don't relocate the PIE cache - your card is just not fast enough for the task.

Menneisyys said:
Try optimizing your storage card for speed; see my article on all this stuff at http://pocketpcmag.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17921
If it doesn't help, then, don't relocate the PIE cache - your card is just not fast enough for the task.
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Prepare yourself for a long, but superbly detailed read. Menniesyys has produced an excellent guide that worked well for me, well worth taking your time to work through this and the speed benefits are very noticable.
Mike

mikechannon said:
Prepare yourself for a long, but superbly detailed read. Menniesyys has produced an excellent guide that worked well for me, well worth taking your time to work through this and the speed benefits are very noticable.
Mike
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Thanks

Menneisyys said:
Try optimizing your storage card for speed; see my article on all this stuff at http://pocketpcmag.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17921
If it doesn't help, then, don't relocate the PIE cache - your card is just not fast enough for the task.
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Simple change in the registry change referenced in that link
"Grab a registry editor (if you aren't afraid of manually editing the registry - in most cases, it's much more fun - and it's free! - than using pre-made programs to do the same) and manually editing [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders\Cache] :"
Works great.

Pocket Machanic
http://www.dotsis.com/mobile_phone/showthread.php?t=17697&highlight=Pocket+Mechanic&gtothread
follow the link to Pocket machanic

PIE Cache on Storage Card
Yes it is possible using many of the methods above to actually move the cache location.
BUT BE WARNED.....
If you sort reset your phone with no storage card present the devide will create a new directory called "STORAGE CARD" and create the required directories in there.
Then if you re-insert your storage card it will be seen as "STORAGE CARD2".
It's a pain to change back..........
Charlie Grillo

Trying To Make This Work
I have SK Tools and do not see how to make this change with the cache. Do I use SK Tools as a registry editor like Resco Registry or is there a function within SK Tools that I can make this change?
I want to do a reg edit but do not know how to start doing that. Is there some place here that I can't find that will walk me through how to do it from start to finish? I do see the lines of code you are supposed to insert to make this edit work, I just do not know how to start editing.
Any help will greatly be appreciated.
Thanks
Marc

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a lot of questions in only 1 post.

Hi to all, I just bought my US T-Mobile Mda Vario.
So I have a few questions, please if someone more experianced than me can help me, most welcomed.
sorry if I ask for something that it is already in the forum, please be patient and if you can answer with the link were the comment is, well then great.
1- updating my wizard.
actually I have:
ROM - 1.8.10.2 WWE
ROM date - 12/10/05
Radio Version - 01.09.10
Protocol Version - 4.0.13.20
ExtRom Version - 1.8.10.104
CPU - OMAP850
Speed 195MHz
a) what steps do I have to follow in order to update my device?
b) I bought it used so I unlocked it using Lokiwiz. If I update the device, is the same as a Hard Reset? I am wondering if after this I will have to Unlock the Wizard again or not.
c) how sure is the updatting?
d) What about overclocking? is this sure? does it really makes any difference?
2- By default I have the Windows Media Player. Does it has an equalizer? Is out there any freeware program with "equalizer".
3- Is possible to watch the great cnettv.com in my device? How? (I have gprs and wifi internet conections).
4- Which StorageCard software is recomendable? I need one to fix eventual problems or one that can format my storage card.
5- only with the use of a software, the device is capable of GPS? or do I need an external receiver?
6- Can I sync through wi-fi or blutooth?
7- In Window 2003 SE , in the memory you could move the bar when you needed more storage or programs memory, why can´t this be done in windows 2005? or I am missing something?
Thanks for your time and patience
elloquito1
here are some answers :
1.u cannot move the bar like u were able to in wm2003 as wm5 has a different memory arcitecture the storage memory is no longer volatile...in simple words u have to stickto the avalaible memory but the advantage is wont lose data even if the battery runs out.
2.yes u can sync thru blue tooth not sure abt wifi.
3. u cannot simply use gps with a software (as far as i know)
4.get tcpmp for musiq its free and has an equalizer+tons of other options.
Hope this helps
You'll need a GPS receiver to be able to use GPS software with the phone. Overclocking can make a big difference to some software but is barely noticable with others.
great, thanks both for your quick answer.
as you seem to know much more than I do about overclocking, please guide me a bit.
do you recomend me to overclock my device?
whith which software? (any freeware one)?
how fast do you recommend?
all others who fills about posting a reply, most welcomed.
thnks again
elloquito1
DEFINITELY update your ROM. Use T-Mobile's instructions and files. You won't lose your unlocked status. You will notice nothing but improvements in the system. It takes all of ten minutes.
I would install smartskey (but some have had problems, search) it gives you more one handed operation, plus you can overclock with it. If not smartskey search for omapclockplus. Also there is a battery meter that does overclocking, maybe someone can chime in with a name so you can search for it. I'ms table with 240 mHz, other have gone up to 264 I think. Worst that happens is it freezes or soft resets.
You need a GPS reciever to use GPS software, but www.map4pda.com has some decent free software that will gove you access to google maps and MS maps.
You can sync through BT. Ihave had mixed results getting it set up. It will be cake one time...then after I format for some reason, its tough, then easy. But when set up its really nice. No syncing through wifi though (at least with active sync. I'm not sure if tere are any 3rd party progs that let you)
Also I think pocket mechanic can format cards, but I havent used it in a long time.
elloquito1 said:
great, thanks both for your quick answer.
as you seem to know much more than I do about overclocking, please guide me a bit.
do you recomend me to overclock my device?
whith which software? (any freeware one)?
how fast do you recommend?
all others who fills about posting a reply, most welcomed.
thnks again
elloquito1
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For overclocking, search the forums for omapclock and smartskey. Put them in the same folder, and change smartskey.ini to enable overclocking. I keep mine at 240MHz with no problems since day one - and I've changed ROMs about a dozen times now.
And yes, you CAN NOT sync over Wifi with the current active sync. IT's complained to security issue.
7- In Window 2003 SE , in the memory you could move the bar when you needed more storage or programs memory, why can´t this be done in windows 2005? or I am missing something?
You can look into Memaid
4- Which StorageCard software is recomendable? I need one to fix eventual problems or one that can format my storage card.
Not sure what you mean by that. I would recommend to format your card with computer. You can use Antontomov Pocket Mechanic Profesional to look over your card.
2- By default I have the Windows Media Player. Does it has an equalizer? Is out there any freeware program with "equalizer".
I use Conduits Pocket Player.
And use search, very helpful and quicker than waiting for answers
weezy said:
4- Which StorageCard software is recomendable? I need one to fix eventual problems or one that can format my storage card.
Not sure what you mean by that. I would recommend to format your card with computer. You can use Antontomov Pocket Mechanic Profesional to look over your card.
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Please read http://pocketpcmag.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17921 for a complete roundup & explanation of these apps / issues.
elloquito1 said:
7- In Window 2003 SE , in the memory you could move the bar when you needed more storage or programs memory, why can´t this be done in windows 2005? or I am missing something?
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Because WM5 only uses dynamic RAM (SDRAM) for program execution, not storage. Now, storage ONLY uses flash ROM. This is why you don't have a slider any more.
(BTW, I recommend following my blog / my articles in general. I've explained a LOT of questions like this in there.)
elloquito1 said:
4- Which StorageCard software is recomendable? I need one to fix eventual problems or one that can format my storage card.
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NEVER use any Pocket PC-based tool to fix your cards, ONLY chkdsk (and format) on the desktop. Please read http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=39583 for more info on this q.

Internet Explorer cache,history,cookies

Hi all, can i move all the cookies,history,cache to my storage card instead of saving it in my device's memory, are there any registry tweak that can automatically do that while im surfing the net?
use anton tomov pocket mechanic. the program will automatically adjust all necesary registry entries, also all shortcuts refering to old storage or place in device memory.
also read the wiki! it's got all sorts of useful info on this!
Go to Tweaking The Hermes Registry. It's in there.... you need a registry editor to do this but youve got to dive into this eventually so why not now?
Although I Might ADD:
I stored my PIE cache on the storage card for a while (bc it took up 17 MB of memory on the phone) and it did crash more than usual....
After a hard reset I didnt feel like taking all the necessary steps to reconfigure, so I just use ClearTemp to delete the PIE cache and dump my recent programs... VERY useful program ...
thanks for the input guys ....

New reg-hack: MemHack. Pre-Alpha.

I fiddled around with my wm6'd hx4700 (thanks kuzuhara!) and a registry editor and found a way to make it regard SD as ram and xip from it.
This renders my device to achieve usage smooth enough i allow myself to reffer to the device as a mini-umpc^_^
For SD only atm, miniSD may or may not work depending on your devices driver. No MMC for the time being.
I sooooo hope this isn't old news
Here's to me not ****ing any of your devices up, it worked wonders for me.
P.S
IMPORTANT!
Delete the Program Files folder and reset again once you see the SD's been renamed to Program Files2.
On the next boot it'll mount as Program Files and everything will load from it.
Excuse me, my brains are stuck in google translator mode
4.11.2007
It seems i was rather in the wrong and am taking a whole new direction.
One which involves reading more carefully before i charge head into the guts of windows embedded.
Will take me a while until next post, and it might become hx4700 exclusive, but i promise you some cool stuff to come yet.
Anybody wanting to make their SD into Program Files to save space,
just start resco reg editor and change hklm\System\StorageManager\Profiles\SDMemory\Folder: Program Files.
(Originally is SD Card).
You can also try messing with it, making it into diffenent sys folders, just be careful
Mine is currently application cache (Volatile) and [email protected] Files.
(Running sweet with what i got to with the enablement of complete graphics accelaration, except for a minor hang up when returning from sleep).
Sooooooooooo...
ONLY DOWNLOAD AND APPLY THE CURRENT PATCH IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR'E DOING AND WANT TO GIVE BEATING ME TO IT A SHOT!
I'm hoping for a next release in a day, but not necessarily of this project but of an off-chute.
BTW, is it just me or is WM real *nix like?^^
anyone tried this ?
ranasrule said:
anyone tried this ?
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Downloaded, but waiting to see what others think.
Want to know what it does to the SD card and device as the readme does say to move the devices contents of its program files folder to the sd card?????
downloaded it too. but i notice its his forst post.
Lol... it's my first post, sorry..
All it does is make the device call the card drive "Program Files" and set a swap file that's used as most device memory (don't worry, it's faster than most none-nand flash). i had to leave a small buffer in device memory though.
The memory file is unallocated, so just don't forget to leave 528MB free at all times.
Re-read the original post
It is and will be updated with periodic updates should they come.
I've been using it for 72 hours now.
It takes the odd reset to free up memory, but nothing worst than what we had before.
well if all thing got wrong.. anyway to revert it back?.. well ofcourse hard reset is one of it. uhmm.. lets put hardreset aside first..
well.. cant wait to test this.. i made a whole backup of my registry so if thing went wrong.. ill just restore the registry backup..
Good point doube_ofour.
Just export the StorageManager registry key before applying the changes, and if worst comes to worst restore your backed up original.
So, anybody else installed and can connect to tell the tale?
DuperMan said:
So, anybody else installed and can connect to tell the tale?
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I made a cab with the regs and installed it But I'm still experimenting .. Nothing bad happened so far how do i know the device is faster ?!! how did you measured your device's speed ?
So let me get this straight -- it will use the microSD in my TyTN as RAM -- the icky sticky stuff I run out of because internet explorer, pocket player, and spb mobile shell grab it all for themselves?
Is there any way to specify how much of the SD card is used as RAM -- since I don't really need 1 GB of RAM on my device.
I saw your post about 558 MB free but didn't quite understand it. You also said you need the odd softreset to free memory? but why would you need to free up a few MB when you have access to hundreds?
But thanks for sharing with the community -- if this really does work out well for us, that's pretty freaking amazing.
@DuperMan
Does this hack simply make our "Storage Card" transform into "Program Files"?.. Thats it?.. cant see any speed improvement.. besides my memory usage increased by that means my device will perform slow..
My "Program Memory and Storage Memory" Stays the same as 47mb total on both memory..
Exactly Ragart!
Only it's set to use miniSD, i think you'd have to mess with it a little to make it work on miniSD... if response is good i'll make a mini version.
Remember - It's only been tested on wm6 hx4700!
double_ofour said:
@DuperMan
Does this hack simply make our "Storage Card" transform into "Program Files"?.. Thats it?.. cant see any speed improvement.. besides my memory usage increased by that means my device will perform slow..
My "Program Memory and Storage Memory" Stays the same as 47mb total on both memory..
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in my case my program memory decreased by something around 10mb ! and I can't see any improvement in speed too ...
miniSD, hmm? Well that's the slightly-larger brother of my 1GB MicroSD. So I guess I'll just watch the thread and see others' reactions before I try anything (though I do have fullbackups)
Thanks for the quick response. So how much RAM does your hx4700 'have' now? and did you set it to 558 extra for a reason? Just curious questions from a person who doesn't understand the intricacies of reg editing
@doube_ofour:
Use it for a while, constant usage should be smoother. Did you free the space up by deleting the old Program Files as well?
Use it to surf for a while, multiple windows style, and you'll notice the difference.
Also, don't be mean to my hack Don't load it to spite, wait for each app to load and keep on starting apps without (majorly) worrying about a system crash.
@hma4:
The age old method of feel
It doesn't boost anything per say, but your device shouldn't be as compaction ridden as it was, so less mem degradation over time=more time between resets under heavy work loads. and i mean heavy. also, multi-tasking is MUCH more usable.
@ragart:
I set it to have a 512Mb paging area on the SD, plus 512kb in main for caching and another 16Mb for caching on SD, so that's a total of 528.5Mb overall mem, 16.5Mb cache and half a gig paging (good for them internet chaches etc..
i check on the registry that u have made in ur reg hack. seems like all the folders etc is the same even for a miniSD card ... so do u think it will work on miniSD too?

Moving My Documents to storage card and other things?

Hi there. I was just wondering if anyone could tell me how to move the My Documents folder and all things that point to it to the storage card, and if there is a general way to make all applications point to the storage card by default, instead of doing it manually with each application that needs it?
I have looked around the forums, but not really found anything useful... so if you could help I'd appreciate it!
Advanced config by schaps look for it in development and hacking section, it lets you tweak your WM and it is the easyest solution for your problem
An easier way to move even programs to Storage Card after installation on main memory is to use SKTools, there may be a better utility but I find SKTools very useful, though it may require little more systems knowledge. You can first try to install free demo version which has limited permissions.
But still I suggest not to play with moving files here and there as one never knows where is mistake done, even proven programs may misbehave under certain conditions or one may make manual errors, and that would disturb the whole working of the system.
Thanks guys/gals, I'll look in to those and see what can be done. I'm just interested as to whether you can improve the available ram for system operations.

Program Memory

I am fairly new to this forum and I am sure this has been explain on here once before. But I though this might be a little easier than searching through countless pages of posts. I want to know if there is a way to clear up the program memory. If I could I would like to be able to delete the Office mobile stuff if that would help. Dont see a need for it since I work on macs mostly. Of if there is way to trim it down. At the moment my program memory is 43.87 MB and it says 40.91MB is in use but I only have window media running and only 3MB available. Is there something I can do. What is taking up all memory. Even after a soft reset. The most I have ever seen it go up to is like 14MB and that is just for a while then it begins to rundown. Thanks for you help in advanced.
Carlos
CleanRAM - http://thewingster.com/cleanram.aspx
Thanks Ace..good work..is there a way to get into the registry and delete some of the office mobile stuff, like work powerpoint and excel or would I have to do a complete flash
toreone said:
Thanks Ace..good work..is there a way to get into the registry and delete some of the office mobile stuff, like work powerpoint and excel or would I have to do a complete flash
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You would have to flash a ROM without Office Mobile. Look on The Wingster (http://thewingster.com/roms.aspx) and find a ROM that doesn't include Office Mobile. I tell you if it doesn't include it, so it should be fairly easy to identify that.
But going into the registry wouldn't be where you'd delete that stuff. You'd find it in the file explorer, \Windows. I'm not sure if you can delete those files though. I'd just flash one of the numerous ROM's that doesn't include Office Mobile, there's many of them.
Office Mobile is in most cases (there are CABs out there, so that you can install it on stirage card) in the ROM and can't be deleted in an easy way. The File Explorer doesn't delete it. Midnight Commander can delete files, which are in the Main ROM, but only use if you know what you're doing! This program can delete all files - important system files, too!
The most easy way is, as ace already said, to flash a rom without Office Mobile. But be careful and read a lot before you flash a new rom! A broken flash may cause a broken phone!
That is one of my biggest fears is bricking my phone and not being able to bring it back. I am currently running SPB Mobile 3.0 and I like that a lot. That is what I would like to run permanently. Maybe when i upgrade or buy a new phone I will practice on my old wing. Thanks guys for the info!
program mem == application mem
storage mem == files on your device
application mem is used by programming which are running nothing else
storage mem is used by files stored on your device
freeing up app mem don't give more storage and virsa versa

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