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How to turn the phone off REALLY quickly

I did post previously about this and I think I've stumbled onto a solution.
If you click on the ariel from the Today screen or anywhere else, it takes ages to switch off (show the X) BUT if you go over to the dialler screen (pess the phone button) and then click the ariel & turn off, it switches off in about 2 seconds !!!
That's what it does on my machine anyway - maybe others can confirm this behaviour.
Ravi

Didn't work for me
Just tried that, but it still took around 5 secs for the popup menu to appear. Once it's popped up once though, it seems to then be selectable quite quickly.
I guess the real solution is to get a hardware button to turn it on/off!
Lee.

I just tried it again and it takes just as long as it did before. Damn !!
I wish somebody would figure this out !!
Ravi

A workaround could be phone profiles, which are offered for example by Ultra Profiler 2.0 (http://www.mobilesolutions.ro/)
It offers the profile "Airplane", which switches off the phone immediately.
Unfortunately, it seems to be buggy. After switching between some profiles, it changes to a strange ring tone.

I also tried this, and it still takes ages
sorry any more tricks to try....
John

to turn it off quickly you could just throw it your hardest against the floor the harder it hits the floor the more faster the device will switch off.
but i wouldnt do this as it would be a waste of money :lol:

Funny you sould say that, as when it locks up or dose not do what i needed it to do i oftern think of using your super fast turn off mode
john

I think the reason for delays in switching off is that mobile phones send out a signal to the Providors transmitters to tell them its being switched off, so it needs to do that before it will turn itself off.

I believe the phone switches itself off the moment you open the sim door cover; there is that little microswitch there...

Bought a Qtek 9000, first impressions & questions

I bought a Qtek 9000 a couple days ago and I'm pleasently surprised. I heard all the bad stories about the MDA PRO, O2 Exec, ... so I kind of feared the worst. But I took a chance and bought it anyway and the Qtek doesn't seem to be as bad as the other versions.
It does ring when I get called and the ring isn't late. I didn't notice any difference with my previous phone. So that's positive, I didn't change the ringtone on the other hand, so I don't have a large mp3 as ringtone.
Second, it is stable. Haven't had a crash, hangup, program error. Nor does it crash when I receive a SMS. I have received about 10 SMS'es though, not alot i know. The device is pretty snappy, I never have to wait a few seconds when opening programs or changing the screen-rotation. Also when I bring it back from standby, I don't have to wait at all...
I did a soft reset after setting the regional settings and the phone has been on for allmost 5 days. No major RAM issues, although the free RAM is shrinking, stopping applications in the memory-settings does free up some RAM, but not all. When I first booted the device I had just over 30MB free, and it has slowly decreased to about 18-19MB. I haven't installed any extra programmes on it.
So I might consider a soft reset when it reaches 10MB or so. But my question is, is a soft reset bad? Because you can't really shut the device off, you can only put it in sleep/standby. So rebooting it like a normal pc isn't possible. Does a soft reset damange any programs, settings... that's my main question.
Also, what's the best way to keep the battery in top-condition. Charge it when it's at 20% when the device tells you to charge it. Or charge it when you can, because it doesn't matter when you charge...
And one last thing, MSN Messenger doesn't draw the conversation window that well... Sometimes the part of the screen where your received/sent messages are shown is really small (about 3 lines high) and there is a large whitespace under the field where you type your message.
Thanks a lot to the guys at this forum for providing me with the most reliable info about the device, so I knew what I was getting.
Emmerman
PS: I ordered a Brando Screen Protector Plus, any comments, things I should know before I put it on the screen?

This is a good post to read first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32218&start=150
Here you will have an is\dea of what to expect between a QTEC and an O2 NEW ROM version have to offer.

Thanks for the link, but I wasn't really looking for a new ROM. As I'm quite new to the Universal, I prefer getting to know the device itself better, before I start doing the more 'professional' things. Besides, I don't have any major issues with the Qtek ROM at the moment.
I just wanted to know a little more about soft-resetting the device and how to charge your battery for best longterm performance. Because I find the manual quite minimalistic.

To soft reset: YOU RETAIN YOUR SETTINGS.
1) Just press the small pin hole found at the back of the Universal right beside the USB plug.
To hard reset: YOU LOOSE YOUR CURRENT SETTINGS. BACK TO FACTORY SETTINGS.
A) Method One
1) Go to Start.
2) Go to Programs.
3) Go to Clear Storage.
4) Type in the code: 1234
5) Press YES.
6) Wait for the automatic reset.
B) Method Two
1) Press and hold the two keys with this mark (-) at the same time found at the top most part of the keyboard.
2) While pressing these 2 keys, press the pin hole found at the back of the Universal for 1 second.
3) You will notice a reset and a blank screen will appear.
4) It will prompt you to either press X or 0.
5) Just choose which one you prefer.

emmerman said:
Does a soft reset damange any programs, settings... that's my main question.
Also, what's the best way to keep the battery in top-condition.
PS: I ordered a Brando Screen Protector Plus, any comments, things I should know before I put it on the screen?
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1) No, a reset both hard and soft does not damage your Universal. A soft reset to clear out the memory is good to speed up things better.
2) The best way is to leave it charging for more than 16 hours the first time. Unplug and use it till it drops to around 15% then charge it fully again, this time it does not need the 16 hours. Just wait for the green light indicating a full charge. After following these first two, just keep it plug-in before going to sleep at night making sure you got a full charge for the next morning.
3) I don't know about Brando's screen protector but I used Proporta's screen protector which included a wipe cloth and a screen spreader. I've had my screen protector on before I started even charging and using my phone. Another tip is to use a small peice of tape to take off some dust or specs that might have stuck on the screen before applying the screen protector. Sometimes even with the wipe there are still dust residues. You can also use the tape to clean the side of the screen protector that is going to stick on the screen.

Isn't a soft reset similar to pushing the reset button on your desktop? So couldn't you loose cached data that is in the RAM, because it wasn't written to ROM yet?

emmerman said:
Isn't a soft reset similar to pushing the reset button on your desktop? So couldn't you loose cached data that is in the RAM, because it wasn't written to ROM yet?
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I had never lost any data after a soft reset. It free up unused memory that was being kept by the system for faster processing. Plus WM5 has persistent memory now. May be that was the difference?

So in fact, you can't shutdown a Qtek? You can put it in standby modus, but the phone is still working then. And resetting it, is just rebooting it. So if you want to take out your SIM card, you have to take the battery out while it is actually running?

You actually can turn you device off, with a little help of some small programs, like PsShutXP for example.

Hmm, thanks for the info. I will look into that one, but at the moment I'm still very hesitant to install any third party applications on my 6-days old precious.
One other question, does the led blink orange when you receive a SMS. Because now it doesn't, it blinks green, like normal. But I seem to remember the first I got it, it blinked orange. Or am I confused.

@emmerman
You are right you can lose data. I have lost emails and other users have reported loss of WEP keys etc. But I have never had this problem with Symbian devices.

emmerman said:
One other question, does the led blink orange when you receive a SMS. Because now it doesn't, it blinks green, like normal. But I seem to remember the first I got it, it blinked orange. Or am I confused.
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Can anyone answer this one.

Go to Start>Settings>Sound and Notifications>Notifications Tab>Choose the event you wish to correct.
The changes in any settings never occurred on mine nor any type of freezes. Something I am glad about.
What I did when I first turned on my device, off from the box or right after a hard reset, was to go through those settings and made sure they are all configured the way I want them to notify me. This is the only difference I could possibly think of why others have disappearing settings on notifications.

Wizard Users more than 3-4 months????

I saw a thread about the a guy changed his wizard after using it for 5 months
What do u think mates?Is this a phone that just seems good when you firs got it?
My review about this phone is(cingular 8125)I've been using it for a month now.
keyboard got a lit' bit loose..
Poor battery life.(1day at most)
and it keeps dialing the last call while in my pocket in case i forgot the lock itlol(btw is there any autolock program for wizard)
Cheers :lol:

Hi Mate,
I have it just for 3 days now , but I wanted to ask you, how can I lock the keypad when I put it in my pocket to avoid dialing by itself by accident ?

i'm using the regular wi5 lock button at the today screen but there are some programs that allows you to choose a hard button and use it as a lock
but im looking for an autolock

Thomas1234 said:
Hi Mate,
I have it just for 3 days now , but I wanted to ask you, how can I lock the keypad when I put it in my pocket to avoid dialing by itself by accident ?
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Well, since its going into your pocket and you won't need the screen, can't you just hit the power button once to make it go into standby mode. Two benefits, you save battery, and lock the phone (only a press of the power key unlocks it again). In standby, you will still receive phone calls and get email (if its set to poll every XX mnutes, dunno about push email). The only downside to using the power button as a keylock is if you're using the wizard as mp3 player or something becuase standby causes the app to stop.
There's a cab out there that allows you to map the key lock to a button, I forgot what thread its in. I've got keylock mapped to the voice record button (hold). It works well.

Thanks Edyhan, I thought that this Lock is to lock the PPC and give it a password so that nobody can use it without knowing the Password well I am very new with this Pocket PCs, I am still figuring out the beauty.
KINetics, thanks for your reply, I know about the Power button, but it can b pushed - accidently - too then your PPC gonna do some jobs while it is in your Pocket, this is why Locking the buttons is the best solution.
But I really don't need any other apps just to lock the keys, as long as there is a Lock already in the WM5.
I wish the Wizard owners answer the main question of the Thread Starter

Edyhan said:
I saw a thread about the a guy changed his wizard after using it for 5 months
What do u think mates?Is this a phone that just seems good when you firs got it?
My review about this phone is(cingular 8125)I've been using it for a month now.
keyboard got a lit' bit loose..
Poor battery life.(1day at most)
and it keeps dialing the last call while in my pocket in case i forgot the lock itlol(btw is there any autolock program for wizard)
Cheers :lol:
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I got the tmo mda the day it was available in the US and I like it a lot more now than when I got it. I can't say my keyboard has come loose but it does seem to close with less than a snap now and then. Still, it seems to work fine, as does the phone, so I'm not concerned.
The custom 2.17 rom available on this site seems to work wonders for battery life. When using the stock tmo rom, battery life was a couple days. With the 2.17 rom, it takes 3 days to hit 50%. Your mileage may vary, of course, but it added a couple extra days for me. I've since gotten a battery that's about twice as large (needs a custom backplate for the phone) and it seems to last forever but I haven't measured the time.
Finally, I agree with the above. I hit the power button before putting it in my pocket and it's never once dialed on it's own. I also discovered the secret of hitting the power button after I call or answer the phone. That prevents random screen frenzy from your face as you talk.
I had a Blue Angel phone before the mda and I really liked that phone a lot. It had a larger screen and was much faster but...the mda had WM5 and the BA was 2003SE. Eventually I learned that there's a different "rhythm" to using the mda and once I found it, I stopped overclocking and now I think it's an awesome phone.

For locking the Wizard I normally use a combination of both lock and standby, ty hat way if the power button does get pressed in pocket (which has happened on a couple of occasion) the screen comes on but the pad is still locked.
I've owned mine since January and have been more than happy with it, sure its bigger than my old Orange C500 but it does way more too! only got around to hard reset it the other day to wipe off the T Mobile due to having so much installed on it, tis faster now tho. Overall a great phone, even my stylis still stays in tho it doesn't extend when u pull it out anymore.

ending a call with red end button sometimes doesnt work?

wtf is up with this phone? so many problems! so sometimes im having a talk and i click end to hang up and it stays connected? what the duece? my 2125 was more reliable than this brick.... however i like me keyboard so F it ill keep it but still anyone know whats up with this shizzle?

Word up, gee.
Anyway, yeah, I've noticed this too. I've taken to pressing the end key a couple of times at the end of the call. I think it happens when you've been on the phone for a few minutes, and the screen turns off (power saving) - you have to hit the end key to wake the device back up, and hit it again to end the call. Fo' shizzle my nizzle?

Respeckt holmes, but i swear i have hit the end button several times with no luck. but tapping the onscreen one works good

Why didn't ****ey HTC put a faster CPU in and, memory being cheaper than toilet paper, put more RAM in??? 128MB??? My USB stick is 2GB and that cost only £15. What is up with these cheapskates? Then they charge stupid prices like £400 for the handset. Go figure!
If the nappy crappers put a decent CPU and RAM in we wouldn't have to spend days and days on forums trying to squeeze that extra MB out of it.

I've been pressing the end key 3 times since I had a blue angel. I even do it on my none-HTC/Mobile phones.
elyl said:
Word up, gee.
Anyway, yeah, I've noticed this too. I've taken to pressing the end key a couple of times at the end of the call. I think it happens when you've been on the phone for a few minutes, and the screen turns off (power saving) - you have to hit the end key to wake the device back up, and hit it again to end the call. Fo' shizzle my nizzle?
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temparoo said:
Why didn't ****ey HTC put a faster CPU in and, memory being cheaper than toilet paper, put more RAM in??? 128MB??? My USB stick is 2GB and that cost only £15. What is up with these cheapskates? Then they charge stupid prices like £400 for the handset. Go figure!
If the nappy crappers put a decent CPU and RAM in we wouldn't have to spend days and days on forums trying to squeeze that extra MB out of it.
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A little off topic but...
I could be wrong, but the slower CPU consumes half the energy, letting the battery life be respectable, compared to most PDA based phones. And yes, I have the same problem with my phone but I am pretty sure its just due to the phone turning off. I also seem to call people with my cheek while im on the phone and I have to randomly swap and its embarassing to explain why I had to have them repeat.

Powering down 8125

Instead of holding the power button for several seconds to shut down the 8125, is there a free program that does the same thing?
There are several programs that can lock, shut down, and soft reset the device. But it seems like the shut down process does not really shut down the device like holding down the power button. Can anyone explain this to me why is this?
Thanks

It is one of the many laws that govern the realm of the PDA that thou shall not shut down a PDA. The PDA function does not take up much of the battery. You can try shutting off the phone/GSM function.

Why would you want to turn your phone off ?

In the windows folder, there is a file called poweroff.exe. Create a link to it. That is what I use.
why? If you know you are not going to be using it and not taking any calls for a while.

maybe i can answer for jimmyhauser 8)
i am in university, and whenever im in class, i usually put my phone on the table (but i turn off the ringer << polite =P) anyways, a couple of times my professor asked me to TURN OFF the phone during a test. and he stood there waiting for me to turn off the phone. it took quite some time, unwind the headphone, take out the stylus, unlock the device wait 5 seconds while pressing the power button to turn it off..it was an akward moment (even though it doesnt sound like it) and thats happened a few times. Also wen i go to the hospital. i dont want my phone to make intereference with some guy's life saving device. so a quick power off is needed =P
and thanks for the link to the file ;-)

FYI, on intel based HTC devices, VJEschaton will also shut down devices to full power off using the -sleep mode. I don't think anyone other then me uses it though Very useful on WM2003 devices when you're not going to be giving them a daily top up of juice... prevents them from hardreseting themselves.
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I turned off my 8125 last night and the unit will not boot up today... Can't even hard reset. I think, once i get the Cingular 225 ROM installed, i won't be turning it off again.