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I have a 8525 that has been unlocked and SuperCID, with all the Cingular ExtROM stuff removed. When I use the phone with a 1 GB MicroSD, I don't see any performance issue or slowness.
However, when I upgraded to SanDisk 2GB MicroSD card, it seems to slows down the unit by about 10-20%. As a matter of fact, pressing the ON button give a delay of 1 seconds before the screen turned on!
I just want to verify if this is a known issue or I have a defective card or I need to upgrade to ROM 1.09.
Holy crap on a stick!
So that's why the Hermes is so slow to turn on when I hit the button! When I bought my Hermes (TyTN), I bought a 2GB micro the same day.. and slapped it in! It hasn't been out since, really. I definitely see your behaviour here!
Hmm. This is the reason I wanted my screen to stay on, when I'm on a call. I hate that it takes me about 2 seconds to hang up, after the call is done.
If there is some way around this problem, phone-call-long-hangup-annoyance goes away too. ;D
Hey Brad,
Thanks for the info. So it seems like this is a known problem that the device slows down with 2 GB card.
Just out of curiosity, are you running a TyTn / 8525 and what ROM version do you have?
I'm running a TyTN, but the ROM version is whatever the beast was born with. I did perform an upgrade on the radio side, and I did perform an unlock.. and I was at 1.04 out of the gate...
I have a Sandisk 2Gb MicroSD Card and running 1.35 bl1.09 Rom. I confirm when pressing the ON button gives a delay of 0.5-1 second before the screen turn on when the MicroSD Card is inserted, but I don't think it slows down the whole system. That's fine for me. No big deal!
does it make a difference if the screen turns on 0.5 to 1 second later?
I mean it will take you the same or more time to place the phone to your ear...
It may or may not, but it is ODD to someone (me) who previously saw the screen turn on INSTANTLY, and then later on saw that it doesn't. Furthermore, some slow down was experienced in overall system operation.
IN any case, this is called TROUBLESHOOTING, not about someone being picky about having the screen turn on 1 seconds later...
point taken,
microsd cards are relatively slower than the internal ROM in the hermes, therefore it is expected that performance will slow down if you have apps installed on your micrsd, or ringtones, or tsk files.
if the microsd card is purely formatted (blank) is there a performance penalty?
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does it make a difference if the screen turns on 0.5 to 1 second later?
I mean it will take you the same or more time to place the phone to your ear...
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Uh.
Well, first, you don't turn on the phone and then put it to your ear. If it is an incoming call, the screen turns itself on. If you're calling out, you turn on, wait, then go to phone.. then call...
As well, the phone goes to my ear in about 0.1 seconds here. ;P I'm not a 72 year old arthritic man.
Seriously though, the only reason I care, is because when I hang up, it sounds like I _am_ an addled old man! I say "bye", take the phone from my ear, press the "on" button, wait 1.2 seconds or so, then hit the end button.. and wait for the hangup. All said and done, that can get close to 2 seconds, just to hang up.
Yes, that is a long time. How long does it take me to hang up on my Treo, or on a land line? The Treo's screen is on during calls, so... perhaps .2 or .3 seconds. Landline? I hang up before I even manage to get the phone from my ear! The button is 2mm from my thumb when I'm holding the phone!
Anyhow.. someone commented in another thread that a lot of these problems are because the tech is new. Well, I'm sorry, it isn't. It's because companies aren't learning, and because Microsoft isn't developing the OS fast enough. I bought a Compaq IPAQ in 2000. Literally all of my complaints with it, about the contact system, about syncing, about backlights and leds, about dialing.. they're all still here!
MS needs to address some of these usability issues. It isn't a big deal to allow the backlight to dim more than currently, or provide for toggling leds off, or screens on during calls. It isn't a big deal to improve the contact system after 6 years.
It's just poor production values.
most of the 8525 users i have seen on this board all had the same complaint about the backlight taking 1-2 seconds to turn on.. and sorry to say mine does it with or without my sd card. my 8125 was instant.. and i would imagine after a few updates all of this will get better
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microsd cards are relatively slower than the internal ROM in the hermes, therefore it is expected that performance will slow down if you have apps installed on your micrsd, or ringtones, or tsk files.
if the microsd card is purely formatted (blank) is there a performance penalty?
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Yes, I am aware of the slowness od Flash memory (SD, MicroSD, MiniSD, etc.). However, I didn't have this type of slowness in my 8125, MDA, or even on the iPaqs.
I have formatted it before, but to no effect. I didn't install any "system" type file in the card, such as .tsk or ringtone that is used by the "phone" application.
On another note: when I took out the card and reinsert it, sometimes the PDA won't recognise it. I.e. nothing shown under Settings -> System -> Memory or in File Explorer.
In any case, I want to find out if I have a bad SD card.
What is the speed of your cards? Faster rated cards could be a solution...
It's the standard SanDisk 2 GB card. I no longer have the box, so I don't know the speed.
Regarding faster speed, I don't think any manufacturer now have a faster version (i.e. Ultra version type). The only one I know that is very fast is ATP brand, but they don't have the 2Gb version.
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Uh.
Well, first, you don't turn on the phone and then put it to your ear. If it is an incoming call, the screen turns itself on. If you're calling out, you turn on, wait, then go to phone.. then call...
As well, the phone goes to my ear in about 0.1 seconds here. ;P I'm not a 72 year old arthritic man.
Seriously though, the only reason I care, is because when I hang up, it sounds like I _am_ an addled old man! I say "bye", take the phone from my ear, press the "on" button, wait 1.2 seconds or so, then hit the end button.. and wait for the hangup. All said and done, that can get close to 2 seconds, just to hang up.
Yes, that is a long time. How long does it take me to hang up on my Treo, or on a land line? The Treo's screen is on during calls, so... perhaps .2 or .3 seconds. Landline? I hang up before I even manage to get the phone from my ear! The button is 2mm from my thumb when I'm holding the phone!
Anyhow.. someone commented in another thread that a lot of these problems are because the tech is new. Well, I'm sorry, it isn't. It's because companies aren't learning, and because Microsoft isn't developing the OS fast enough. I bought a Compaq IPAQ in 2000. Literally all of my complaints with it, about the contact system, about syncing, about backlights and leds, about dialing.. they're all still here!
MS needs to address some of these usability issues. It isn't a big deal to allow the backlight to dim more than currently, or provide for toggling leds off, or screens on during calls. It isn't a big deal to improve the contact system after 6 years.
It's just poor production values.
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Not too seem contrite here, but why do you(when hanging up) first push the on button? Is this something that must be done on the TyTn and not the 8525? Please keep in mind that I'm a newb here. I just hang up "normally" on my 8525 by hitting the end key. Even after it has gone into "pseudo stand-by mode". Screen comes back on, if I choose to hit the power key to cycle device into stand-by mode, fine, if not, I'll make another call or let the backlight/system go into stand by a short time later. Please advise
balld said:
Not too seem contrite here, but why do you(when hanging up) first push the on button? Is this something that must be done on the TyTn and not the 8525? Please keep in mind that I'm a newb here. I just hang up "normally" on my 8525 by hitting the end key. Even after it has gone into "pseudo stand-by mode". Screen comes back on, if I choose to hit the power key to cycle device into stand-by mode, fine, if not, I'll make another call or let the backlight/system go into stand by a short time later. Please advise
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How can I hit the end key? I *must* set my device to ignore all buttons but the power button, otherwise it just keeps coming on in my pocket.
So, when the phone goes off because of a call, only the power button awakes it. Which key is the "end" key, anyhow? I don't think there is such a hard key on the phone, is there? Anyhow, even if there were, again.. I have it set to ignore all button presses except the power button, when off.
Of course, a mature and "cool" OS, would realise that there should be a checkbox for "When on a call, and when phone is off, button X still works".
lanwarrior said:
It's the standard SanDisk 2 GB card. I no longer have the box, so I don't know the speed.
Regarding faster speed, I don't think any manufacturer now have a faster version (i.e. Ultra version type). The only one I know that is very fast is ATP brand, but they don't have the 2Gb version.
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SanDisk have a 2Gb Ultra II available (10 mb/s!!)
Seen this one on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SanDisk-2GB-U...ryZ98876QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Thinking of upgrading my Kingston 1Gb to this
S.K.
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How can I hit the end key? I *must* set my device to ignore all buttons but the power button, otherwise it just keeps coming on in my pocket.
So, when the phone goes off because of a call, only the power button awakes it. Which key is the "end" key, anyhow? I don't think there is such a hard key on the phone, is there? Anyhow, even if there were, again.. I have it set to ignore all button presses except the power button, when off.
Of course, a mature and "cool" OS, would realise that there should be a checkbox for "When on a call, and when phone is off, button X still works".
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even when mine is asleep and i am on a call it still recognizes the send/end button, i am able to hit the button and end the call
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SanDisk have a 2Gb Ultra II available (10 mb/s!!)
Seen this one on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SanDisk-2GB-U...ryZ98876QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Thinking of upgrading my Kingston 1Gb to this
S.K.
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??? SanDisk website didn't even advertise this, how can this be?
silent_killa said:
SanDisk have a 2Gb Ultra II available (10 mb/s!!)
Seen this one on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SanDisk-2GB-U...ryZ98876QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Thinking of upgrading my Kingston 1Gb to this
S.K.
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I just ordered the 2gb Ultra off of Ebay yesterday, I'll let the group know how it does regarding speed preformance in a few days.
Did anyone try to change the clustersize when formatting the card? I think this cuold improve read/writespeed. Also it usually improves things to defragment also a memorycard.
I have my Nexus One set to turn off the display and go into lock mode after 10 minutes. I would prefer 5 minutes, but that is not an option. I have owned the phone for about a month, and absolutely love it, but I have noticed that the top button (which I press to turn the display on) is no longer working as well as it use to. I have to press down on the top button fairly hard to get the display turned back on. I am guessing the wear and tear of pressing the top button dozens of times each day is slowly causing the top button to fail. Is there a way to set the Nexus One display to turn on by pressing something other than the top button on the phone? Perhaps press the volume button, or press the screen to get the display to turn on, instead of the top button?
-Greymarch
I write about technology, especially the Nexus One at my website.
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There's a fix for this.
hopefully there is nothing physically wrong with your phone.
If you have a custom rom and if it is slow it may make it seem like you have a physical problem with the button.
I've just started having this power button issue... Hard reset made no difference so I'm thinking it might be hardware related which is a shame.
HTC says return the phone for repair (had it for 3 weeks) and within the same breath without any prompting said, "And in case you're wondering you won't get a courtesy phone".
Bofslime, are you suggesting there's a specific fix or merely to ring HTC?
The top button still works, it just takes a little bit more effort to get it working. I gotta press down a little harder than I use to.
I am quite dependent on this phone, and have ABSOLUTELY no interest in shipping it back to HTC or google so they can spend weeks fixing a minor issue.
I am really looking for a way to turn on the display without having to press the top button.
-Greymarch
I write about technology, especially the Nexus One at my website.
greymarch.com
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There's a fix for this.
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I followed your link. I couldnt find the specific fix you are referring to. Could you be more specific?
Thanks,
- Greymarch
I write about technology, especially the Nexus One at my website.
greymarch.com
Sorry, in case it wasn't clear, I've had my Nexus One for three weeks (so over the 14 day replace period I'm guessing). HTC actually said it would take about 6 days to get it back to me. Which isn't bad really.
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Bofslime, are you suggesting there's a specific fix or merely to ring HTC?
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Yes, the phone needs to be repaired/replaced.
I had my phone advanced replaced without question or hassle because of dust other the screen. Sold my G1 2 day's before receiving my N1, its not the end of the world to fall back to a backup phone. My sidekick was happy to serve me again for the interim.
Ah ha!
I have found a couple of applications which will allow you to wake-up your Nexus One display using a button other than the power-on button:
http://lock20.wordpress.com/
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-blau-android-keyguard-qFj.aspx
- Greymarch
I write about technology, including the Nexus One at my website:
http://www.greymarch.com
I only have two issues so far with WP7. Everytime I get a text message, the screen turns on. When its in my pocket and i get one, my pocket bumps the screen and keeps calling people, sending random texts and more. Which 1, annoys people and 2, kills the battery even faster than it already does.
The other issue is the battery not charging to 100%. It gets to maybe 90 (has a sliver of the bar gone) after charging it overnight.
Also, I have Location Services turned off and 3G off most of the time and only text a bit throughout the day. When I get home from work the battery has hit maybe 10 or 15%. Is this normal?
Any fixes at least for the screen on issue would be very much appreciated.
I'm having the same issues with the screen turning on whenever an SMS is received. I'm hoping there is a fix out there, or that the latest magldr will fix it.
I'm confused, whats wrong with the screen turning on when an SMS is received? Doesn't it still show the lock screen, requiring a slide up to unlock the device? My screen turns on when I get a new text but turns off after 10 seconds roughly.
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I'm confused, whats wrong with the screen turning on when an SMS is received? Doesn't it still show the lock screen, requiring a slide up to unlock the device? My screen turns on when I get a new text but turns off after 10 seconds roughly.
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The problem is, it's in my pocket. If the screen comes on then, my pocket is going to be hitting the screen which will eventually unlock it and start messing with everything. All I want is a sound notification, there is no need for the screen to come on for a text message. Phone call yes, but not text.
Sorry for bumping something from months ago, but the screen on issue is still around with the NoDo rom. Am I the only one concerned about this?
Maybe you set a code (0000, 7889...). I dont know any other smartphone, which displays a new message etc. NOT!
Regards and have a nice evening
Oliver
Yeah, the funny thing is that about two days ago my HD2 unlocked in my pocket, and upload some random picture on Facebook, next picture in line was my girlfriend naked - she would beat the bejesus out of me, lucky me...
Why don't you just set a one digit password like 2 or 3 to prevent it from unlocking and u can still unlock it fast
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The problem is, it's in my pocket. If the screen comes on then, my pocket is going to be hitting the screen which will eventually unlock it and start messing with everything. All I want is a sound notification, there is no need for the screen to come on for a text message. Phone call yes, but not text.
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Seriously, you have a donate to me sign for yourself? For what might I ask????
What are you doing with your phone in your pocket that it would unlock your phone? (Don't even want to know...eek!)
And why don't you carry your phone in a holster like most people? That way...no "accidental" unlocking in your pocket. Problem solved.
Finally...have you tested if an actual official WP7 phone does or does not have the same problem that pocket carriers seem to have?
Stop reposting old news and go buy yourself a holster.
what on earth is your problem? can you not say anything nice to people?
Well i dont use a holster and i dont know anyone that does either, but it wouldnt help the issue of the phone turning on when you get an SMS message, i suppose it would help with pushing random buttons, but then you wouldnt catch me dead wearing one, you'd look a bit of a gimp where i come from
ive sent all manor of rubbish back to people that have text me, which is why i use the password locked screen and 30 sec turn off.
The chances of that getting typed in by accident is very unlikely
I sometimes get the sound of a picture being taken with the phone in my pocket, with the result that my camera roll has a lot of black, out of focus shots in it.
This is due to the left hand hard key being depressed for a few seconds. It may be that once on, the phone can then navigate to your camera roll and then send mms etc all by being jiggled in the pocket. Dont know if this feature can be turned off, and cant test at the moment
I sort of like the screen password solution. But I a sure it will get annoying in no time.
To repeat what hjhjhj said, but in a nicer fashion, get a holster (yuck).
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Seriously, you have a donate to me sign for yourself? For what might I ask????
What are you doing with your phone in your pocket that it would unlock your phone? (Don't even want to know...eek!)
And why don't you carry your phone in a holster like most people? That way...no "accidental" unlocking in your pocket. Problem solved.
Finally...have you tested if an actual official WP7 phone does or does not have the same problem that pocket carriers seem to have?
Stop reposting old news and go buy yourself a holster.
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I have a donate thing just cause it's available to me in my profile settings. You or anyone else shouldn't worry about things that have NOTHING to do with the topic at hand.
What am I doing? I am walking, or I happen to go out running.
I will never get a holster, that is what my pocket is for. I've known two people who have used one and either the phone fell out of the holster or the holster fell off them and destroyed the phone after many of those drops. Before you ask, yes it was made for the phones they were using...
I haven't tested an actual WP7 phone cause I don't have one and don't know anyone who has one.
This was just a simple question that I asked, no need to go on about other things. I figured there would be something in the registry to change it so it does not turn on.
Read few posts here, i see 2 problems mentioned:
1) battery drain
2) camera button that wakes phone
So, i offer you to:
2)If you have nodo/prenodo you can change camera button(green call button) via software to open up not camera, to open call log or any other stuff, and it probably wouldn't work when screen isn't on.
If you don't wanna use any xaps - you can install green mango(i offer blacksides rom) and via settings u can disable camera app to launch from lockscreen.
1)About battery drain:
On prenodo/nodo i had similar battery drain as some1 mentioned, with different roms i've got pretty same result, and i was charging phone every day, and usually everytime when i could - often in evening being not at home phone just turned off because of 12h non charging!
Now: i have blacksides green mango and my experience is:
1) after rom flash and first full charge(over usb cable to pc) i was calling, texting, surfing internet via wifi like 2h, playing games like ~1,5h total, used gps like half hour, don't remember everything exactly what i did, but it was pretty hard usage of phone and battery lasted ~2days!
2) Now i'm on 2nd full charge and currently i'm ill and always near my pc, so i use my phone only for sms+calls, and currently my "battery saver"(new mango function) shows:
Remaining battery life: 52%
Time since last charge: 2days 8 hours
So overall my phone battery lasts ~3-4times better on mango than on nodo/prenodo, so i recommend you to use green mango, anyway there are problems with "sim error" sometimes(usually when you use wifi, when you don't - i had ~3days no sim errors, so that's pretty fine)
So these were my thoughts about your problems, thanx
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And why don't you carry your phone in a holster like most people?
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Stop reposting old news and go buy yourself a holster.
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Most people on what planet? I put a case on my phone and I carry it in my pocket. My wife carries her phone in a purse. I refuse to use a holster or wear a utility belt like freaking Batman.
I too have a problem with pockets and wp7, but all I can really do is password protect it.
As for the battery not charging completely, I have a tiny fix for that. I too noticed my battery would not charge completely, but it seemed to be an issue with WP7 not reading the battery correctly. It was permanently stuck at 88%. Upon restarting the phone, and reinserting the cable, it was able to charge again til 100%. I'm not sure if that's a problem with Green Mango or what, but I was able to get mine to charge completely that way.
As for battery drain, even with the camera trick and barely any usage, my battery still ends up in the low 15% by the end of the night. I think its just an issue with the ROM that will hopefully get fixed in the RTM release.
Mango RTM still has these problems
Mango RTM still has these problems.
When inside pocket it can be turned on accidentally(camera button or power button) or by reminders, alarms or SMS. So it is very likely that a WP7 will wake up inside the pocket.
But that's not the real problem, the real problem is that the auto sleep timeout (30 secs, 1 min or whatever) is reset every time the lockscreen is touched. Now, can you imagine with which frequency the screen is rubbed inside a pocket? If you are walking or running it could be just every second. The result? Phone keeps on for a long period of time, draining battery and warming up.
Sometimes you don't notice it because luckily you freezed and you gave time for the timeout to happen, but it could have been ON for hours. You notice that when you take it out for use and see the battery meter and think why the heck the phone drains so much battery. And it's just that: WP7 phones have insomnia.
Then comes a second problem, that rubbing inside the pocket can also unlock the phone because the lockscreen will slide up with a very short swipe (2cms). Once unlocked the touch party begins, a lot of apps will be opened, emails written, calls answered/rejected, etc, etc. One good option should be the ability for the user to setup how long to swipe to trigger the unlock.
Some people will enable PIN protection or get a hard case to prevent this. But not the idea. Many use the phone just naked, and if a phone has a lockscreen then it must meet its purpose, it should not be just a screensaver, it must be touchsaver as well.
We developed PocketShield back in the WM6 era, and users loved it mainly because it solved these kind of problems.
I think battery life is one of the most important aspects on mobiles, and the big cons on peoples mouth about phones is always battery life. So hope Microsoft puts a big effort so resolve this on the next update.
pocket txting, dialing, and killing what is already a bad batt life
holsters are for uptight business types or people who want to look important. as i too am NOT batman i opt out of the utility belt!
there were many LITTLE things that WP7 lacked and were easily overlooked! my phones random uploads, txts, random settings changes, useless battery drain and the like from within my pocket were not.
yes you can PW protect but if the phone still recieves stimuli in pocket, even with a PW, you still have the useless battery drain. with the way these roms chomp up the battery to begin with its hard to overlook!
this issue was the determining factor of me jumping back on the Android bandwagon and leaving the little appreciated WP7 ( LOVED THIS OS TOO!!! )
has anyone redesigned a better/different lock screen? perhaps found the registry value to disable the screen waking on notifications? ANYTHING would be great!
thanks!!!
My samsung Focus is about 1.5 years old.. I plan to switch carriers at the end my of contract since AT&T is giving me lots of dropped call at the new place we moved to.. The phone is obviously out of warranty, so I am looking to see if I can fix it myself.
The power button on my Samsung focus is behaving very funny lately. When I hit the power button with the phone awake, it thinks I did a "long press" of the power button and shows me the shutdown pull-down image! If I pull-up the image, the phone still reboots...
If I press the power button when the phone screen is OFF, instead of turning on the phone, it again shows the pull-down image, and the same behavior ensues - regardless of what direction I pull the image in, it shuts down the phone.
Some things I have already tried:
I have tried a hard-reset (camera+volume+power, and format the device), but the behavior continues.
I have removed my SD Card (I am using the AT&T approved one), performed hard reset, and problem continues
I have tried a different battery (from my wife's focus), and problem continues
At this point, I am guessing that most likely, the power button connector is loose.. but I am not 100% sure.. Any suggestions on things to try?
Seems like the spring in the power button is gone. I suggest when you want to press it, lean the phone to the right (with the power button towards the ground) so when you press it, gravity helps popping it back.
Or replace the power button.
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Seems like the spring in the power button is gone. I suggest when you want to press it, lean the phone to the right (with the power button towards the ground) so when you press it, gravity helps popping it back.
Or replace the power button.
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Tried the first trick... didn't seem to help..
Any tips on where I can find a replacement power button and how I can replace it?
See my response here (and the thread referenced in my second reply). Seems to be one of the issues that appear in time... And in another case it was the battery...
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See my response here (and the thread referenced in my second reply). Seems to be one of the issues that appear in time... And in another case it was the battery...
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Thanks EnderPsp!
I have ordered a new battery for now to see if it helps.. its a non-OEM battery off eBay.. Don't want to spend too much without knowing if that is indeed the problem..
I can't find a power button replacement part anywhere... I went over the video and the instructions to reach the power button housing does not seem very bad.. definitely do-able if I can find a replacement part..
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Thanks EnderPsp!
I have ordered a new battery for now to see if it helps.. its a non-OEM battery off eBay.. Don't want to spend too much without knowing if that is indeed the problem..
I can't find a power button replacement part anywhere... I went over the video and the instructions to reach the power button housing does not seem very bad.. definitely do-able if I can find a replacement part..
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The button itself is plastic (you can find some on ebay), and I don't know how it works, actually (If it's a spring or otherwise).
I suggest you watch a take apart guide and maybe, just maybe it's just dirt, which you can clean.
You'll know more and afterwards please share the result with us.
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The button itself is plastic (you can find some on ebay), and I don't know how it works, actually (If it's a spring or otherwise).
I suggest you watch a take apart guide and maybe, just maybe it's just dirt, which you can clean.
You'll know more and afterwards please share the result with us.
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And now its completely gone... the power button won't respond at all.. the phone has been shut all day. If I take the battery out and put it back in, the SAMSUNG logo shows up for a few seconds and then the phone turns off again.. No way to turn it back ON using the power key..
I sat down to open the circuit yesterday only to realize that I don't have a #000 screwdriver... the smallest one I have is #00 which is too big for the 7 screws that hold the back panel
Off to Grainger today to see if I can find a 000 driver.. It can't get any worse now, so might as well open the phone!
Sure thing - I will update the post later with what I find...
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And now its completely gone... the power button won't respond at all.. the phone has been shut all day. If I take the battery out and put it back in, the SAMSUNG logo shows up for a few seconds and then the phone turns off again.. No way to turn it back ON using the power key..
I sat down to open the circuit yesterday only to realize that I don't have a #000 screwdriver... the smallest one I have is #00 which is too big for the 7 screws that hold the back panel
Off to Grainger today to see if I can find a 000 driver.. It can't get any worse now, so might as well open the phone!
Sure thing - I will update the post later with what I find...
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You didn't say if the same happens with the wall charger connected.
Now, If you're going out, try and drop near a phone shop. Ask them if they can help you test with one of their batteries, either for a Focus i917 or from a Galaxy S i9000
Good luck mate.
Dang i thought i was the only one with this issue...
Mine started acting up about 3 weeks ago and it was seriously annoying especially when driving. I would press the lock button to change songs, but it thinks i did a long-press and does the "slide down to power off" thing. Even if i swipe up, the phone would switch off.
Then today, i take my phone out my pocket to send a text and find it's powered off. Won't even switch on now
Ender:
Plugging the phone in does NOTHING. The screen remains black.
Reinserting the battery causes the SAMSUNG logo to appear on-screen but again, goes black after 4-5 seconds.
Holding down the power/lock button has no effect, it's unresponsive.
I'm so pissed off this is happening 6 months before my contract is up. -_-
Don't know what else to say... I hope you still have warranty?
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Don't know what else to say... I hope you still have warranty?
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Not extended no... :/
I've managed to get it into "download mode" now though, and my laptop recognises it as "SAMSUNG CDMA Technologies"... Huh?
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If i have it plugged into my laptop,
hold vol down, power, and camera while inserting the battery i get to the hard reset screen. But then that disappears in the same 4-5 second window.
Ok, it's working again... I left the battery out for a few hours (literaly about 3), then pressed hard on the power button, and placed it (the battery) back in the phone.
Let it turn on and then back off by itself, then pressed hard on the power button.
pressed the button normally, and it booted up no issues. So far works fine.
I expect this issue is partly the power button, and something else unknown
EnderPsp said:
You didn't say if the same happens with the wall charger connected.
Now, If you're going out, try and drop near a phone shop. Ask them if they can help you test with one of their batteries, either for a Focus i917 or from a Galaxy S i9000
Good luck mate.
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Yes' same thing with wall power. New battery arrived and did not help. Went to a local cellphone repair and the guy said main board needs replacement.. he suggested to buy another phone since repair will be more expensive.. he said that he needs to remove soldering on the board reinforce an auxillary power button battery and resolder it in.. no guarantees and will cost atleast $150
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Ok, it's working again... I left the battery out for a few hours (literaly about 3), then pressed hard on the power button, and placed it (the battery) back in the phone.
Let it turn on and then back off by itself, then pressed hard on the power button.
pressed the button normally, and it booted up no issues. So far works fine.
I expect this issue is partly the power button, and something else unknown
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Lucky you!! This seems like a common problem with several Samsung phones based on a quick google search
Also bummed that this happened with 6 months remaining ...Now I am somewhat stuck since I want to switch from AT&T due to call issues with several months remaining.. and dont want to buy one till wp8 is out...
Just for fun... I am going to find a 000 screwdriver and try to re-jig the power button.. nothing to loose with the phone refusing to start anyway!
For what it's worth, my power button had been getting increasingly creaky over the course of the last few months, and although not sticking, was requiring ever more pressure to operate. Also, the sound of rusty bedsprings every time I went to use my phone was getting somewhat embarrassing.
I found the sturdiest piece of paper that I could wedge in between the button and the rest of the phone, put a bit of PB Blaster on the paper, and wedged the paper in. The button has since been as good as the day I took the phone out of the box for a couple of months now.
*Edit: Should probably mention that the paper isn't supposed to stay in there - it was just used to apply the lube without soaking the phone.
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Ok, it's working again... I left the battery out for a few hours (literaly about 3), then pressed hard on the power button, and placed it (the battery) back in the phone.
Let it turn on and then back off by itself, then pressed hard on the power button.
pressed the button normally, and it booted up no issues. So far works fine.
I expect this issue is partly the power button, and something else unknown
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So its working completely fine now? No issues? I'll try that but im not hopeful.
I've been having the same issue, started yesterday. There appears to be no issues with the actual button itself, it doesnt appear to get stuck or anything to cause this, even without the external shell and just compressing the sensor itself.
walletless, you said that you tried reformatting it and everything? Damn. I was expecting it to be a software issue. I'll mess with the button mechanism a bit and see if theres anything weird with it
Phone is dead
re-jigging and cleaning around power button did not help.. I ended up ordering a chinese knock-off of HTC Note instead
Does any have this problem, but on a normal stock rom?
I was thinking it might be just custom roms, I don't think that would have anything to do with it
Its worth a shot though
titanhydro said:
Does any have this problem, but on a normal stock rom?
I was thinking it might be just custom roms, I don't think that would have anything to do with it
Its worth a shot though
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My phone died last month. I only installed updates that came through Zune up to 7.5. I went into AT&T and they told me too bad because it was out of warranty. I called Samsung, and they wanted me to 'volume down, camera, power' reset my phone, which didn't work. Samsung told me to send it to them for $70 because I was out of warranty.
Instead I entered a developer competition for a Lumia 800 and won. Now I just have a dead focus, and a new 800. I'd still be interested if anyone finds out a way to fix the focus problem.
HELP.. RIP my SGS4?
Okay so I have been researching for the last week for solutions..in fact i have not found the exact same problem I have..
Samsung Galaxy S4 White 16gb Rogers
Running Lollipop that was pushed by rogers
Not rooted, nothing custom
Battery works fine on other S4's, new battery didn't help my phone
Problem: Every time i turn it on, it shows the "SAMSUNG GALAXY S4" for about a second or two and then turns off and wont turn on again until i take the battery out and put it back in...where it does that again, before i could drain any sparks left from the phone before putting the battery back in and it would turn on and i can use it until i touch the power button, where it would pop the prompt to turn off/restart device where then it would just turn off.. if it got a little to heated it would do the same. My friend is a phone technician and he said he cant find the problem...so I am hoping someone here can help me out. The battery will probably die soon and I cant seem to get it to charge.
I have factory reset it twice and nothing helped. I factory reset in recovery mode both times.
I hope everyone has a wonderful day and someone is able to help me out.. I kinda dont have a phone now Anyways, thanks.
P.S. I can upload a video to show you what I mean if you dont understand my typing lol.
My only advice is the typical one, use Odin to restore, rather than factory reset.
EagleClaws87 said:
HELP.. RIP my SGS4?
Okay so I have been researching for the last week for solutions..in fact i have not found the exact same problem I have..
Samsung Galaxy S4 White 16gb Rogers
Running Lollipop that was pushed by rogers
Not rooted, nothing custom
Battery works fine on other S4's, new battery didn't help my phone
Problem: Every time i turn it on, it shows the "SAMSUNG GALAXY S4" for about a second or two and then turns off and wont turn on again until i take the battery out and put it back in...where it does that again, before i could drain any sparks left from the phone before putting the battery back in and it would turn on and i can use it until i touch the power button, where it would pop the prompt to turn off/restart device where then it would just turn off.. if it got a little to heated it would do the same. My friend is a phone technician and he said he cant find the problem...so I am hoping someone here can help me out. The battery will probably die soon and I cant seem to get it to charge.
I have factory reset it twice and nothing helped. I factory reset in recovery mode both times.
I hope everyone has a wonderful day and someone is able to help me out.. I kinda dont have a phone now Anyways, thanks.
P.S. I can upload a video to show you what I mean if you dont understand my typing lol.
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I had this exact same problem. It's an issue with the power switch. Mine went away after a while one time, the second time I just mashed the power button and put in the battery to see if it would turn on and kept doing that until it worked. It can also help if you just tap that side of the phone on a hard surface, maybe aim the button for the edge of your desk, but not hard.
More technical alternatives involve opening up the phone and cleaning the contacts of the power button with a q-tip and rubbing alcohol, or just desoldering and soldering a new one after testing the old one with a multimeter.
EDIT: as far a new phones go, I'd keep an eye between the Nexus phones and the Moto X Pure Edition.
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My only advice is the typical one, use Odin to restore, rather than factory reset.
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Will Odin work even I can't get into Download mode or Recovery? I mean I got a way to keep the phone on but if it turns off again im gonna try odin, havnt used odin in over 2 years so i kinda forgot how it works lol
DeadlySin9 said:
I had this exact same problem. It's an issue with the power switch. Mine went away after a while one time, the second time I just mashed the power button and put in the battery to see if it would turn on and kept doing that until it worked. It can also help if you just tap that side of the phone on a hard surface, maybe aim the button for the edge of your desk, but not hard.
More technical alternatives involve opening up the phone and cleaning the contacts of the power button with a q-tip and rubbing alcohol, or just desoldering and soldering a new one after testing the old one with a multimeter.
EDIT: as far a new phones go, I'd keep an eye between the Nexus phones and the Moto X Pure Edition.
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Yea I opened it up and looked in, the screen connector ribbon looked like as if ink or black marker was put on it and i cleaned it up and it turned on but after hitting power button it turned off... but i got it on but squeezing the screen and back near the power button when using it and it seems to make the power button work.. I got an app to lock my screen but i guess until i get a new phone i can stick with this sideline for my phone haha. Thanks tho
As for phones, I love the Nexus family haha, Moto X Pure isnt in Canada It would be to much of a hassle to get it in though i could. I really want the Xperia Z5, Nexus 5x or 6p. As a graphic designer everyone is telling me to get an iPhone tho... Ill see when ever the S4 gives out on whats in the market #Android4Life.
EDIT: I also tried the banging thing and stuff and it didnt help lol
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Yea I opened it up and looked in, the screen connector ribbon looked like as if ink or black marker was put on it and i cleaned it up and it turned on but after hitting power button it turned off... but i got it on but squeezing the screen and back near the power button when using it and it seems to make the power button work.. I got an app to lock my screen but i guess until i get a new phone i can stick with this sideline for my phone haha. Thanks tho
As for phones, I love the Nexus family haha, Moto X Pure isnt in Canada It would be to much of a hassle to get it in though i could. I really want the Xperia Z5, Nexus 5x or 6p. As a graphic designer everyone is telling me to get an iPhone tho... Ill see when ever the S4 gives out on whats in the market #Android4Life.
EDIT: I also tried the banging thing and stuff and it didnt help lol
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Does holding the home button power your phone? Mine does, though it takes about 10 seconds to do so.
And please don't listen to that iPhone nonsense, why would a graphic designer ever do so?!
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Does holding the home button power your phone? Mine does, though it takes about 10 seconds to do so.
And please don't listen to that iPhone nonsense, why would a graphic designer ever do so?!
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It powers up and shows "Samsung Galaxy S4" but goes to a black screen after seeing the logo for 2-4 seconds, i have to take it apart and reconnect everything on the motherboard, plug it into an outlet and boot in download mode and then reboot the phone for it to turn on, and the second the power button is touched, it turns off in 5 seconds. Today the GS4 turned off by itself twice and it took my about 2 hours to get it back on.
I love androids, don't get me wrong, Android>iPhone>Blackberry>Windows phone.. I chose an android over the iPhone already, twice. As of right now, performance wise the iPhone seems to be pretty good, price wise? Apple needs to die. lol. Overall I would pick between the Z5, iPhone 6+/6s+ or any of the upcoming Nexus phones. Which ever is cheaper or better money wise at the time when my GS4 fully dies off...which will be soon... is the phone ill get. Which is why I have the pole up there..
I currently use Samsung Tab A and the SGS4 and an iPod Touch 5th gen. Everything runs smooth on my iPod tho.. so I can't wait until I get either the Z5, iP or Nexus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l_6fwzuIwA
Anyone think i should try this??
That is my problem, the phone turning off right away