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Got a future N1 problem I would like some input on...

All of us N1 owners know that the power button can be prone to failure over time.
Right now I use the "NoLock" app as well as the Lock Widget to make sure I don't have to push the power button that much (I instead use the volume keys to wake up the phone and the Lock Widget to put it to sleep)
I was wondering though... If in the future (like a year from now) when/if my power button fails... How do I turn on my phone once it powers off? Is there a way to do this if the power button doesn't work anymore?
Also is there a way to do this WITHOUT rooting? Really don't like rooting my phone

You could always get a replacement flex cable including a new power button.

ap3604 said:
All of us N1 owners know that the power button can be prone to failure over time.
Right now I use the "NoLock" app as well as the Lock Widget to make sure I don't have to push the power button that much (I instead use the volume keys to wake up the phone and the Lock Widget to put it to sleep)
I was wondering though... If in the future (like a year from now) when/if my power button fails... How do I turn on my phone once it powers off? Is there a way to do this if the power button doesn't work anymore?
Also is there a way to do this WITHOUT rooting? Really don't like rooting my phone
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Its been almost a year and my power button is fine. Don't worry about things that might or might not happen

Remove the battery, plug in the USB/power cable and put the battery back in. Something like that anyway, I've already forgotten how I did it 2 months ago (lots happening here in Japan, many things aren't that important anymore in my memory! haha), and got my power button repaired anyway, but it worked.

siddharthsai said:
Its been almost a year and my power button is fine. Don't worry about things that might or might not happen
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Agreed. I believe only a very limited number of phones have this failure. Don't worry about it, if you've made it a year without issue, it is very unlikely you're going to ever see it.

I'm pretty sure this problem only affected the initial batch of N1's. So only those who bought in January would have this problem.
If you have the flat volume rockers you don't have an initial N1. Apparently the first lot have volume buttons that stuck out more and some other visible changes that I can't remember. They should be on these forums somewhere.
But correct me if I'm wrong...

My power button is almost dead, but the combination of trackball wake (with cyanogenmod) and screen off and lock (market app) assigned to long-press search is quite painless.
The only remaining problem is iPhone users making fun of you when you explain the issue to them ...

Yeah,
With roms like CM7 (vol- equals wake from sleep) and Quick Boot, the pwr button and TB almost become unneeded
I never turn my phone off--charger at work, home, and in car

I've had 2 power button cables die on me.
one, I sent back, and when I got a replacement, it died on me within a month. I still have a second n1 which is ok.
basically, if your button starts to get to the point where you have to do multiple pushes, then cable failure is imminent.
you can get the phone to turn on, by plugging in the charging cable, and removing/ inserting the battery. after that, you need to have no lock or some other way of unlocking your screen without the power button.
I just ordered a new flex cable today, I was going to sell off parts for my other n1, but figure that I might as well fix it.

I plugged my N1 in to charge while it was off and it booted into recovery. Not sure if this is related to Amon_Ra or not, but I figured it wasn't a bad thing. The DZ does this too, so I'm getting used to it

seydhe said:
The only remaining problem is iPhone users making fun of you when you explain the issue to them ...
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At which point you remind them of the SMS bug that allowed hackers to take over their precious iphones. Also, antennagate.

crachel said:
I plugged my N1 in to charge while it was off and it booted into recovery. Not sure if this is related to Amon_Ra or not, but I figured it wasn't a bad thing. The DZ does this too, so I'm getting used to it
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I guess some SW has to control the charge. It's a function that is done in the stock recovery (phone charging when it's off), on many Android phones.

I ordered three of the AT&T N1's - one for myself when they were first released, then two more (for my wife and a friend) just before they stopped selling them. None of us have had a problem with the power button, and none of us use trackball wake.

Nexus S power button conspiracy theory/oddity

My power button has been malfunctioning for about 2 months now. That isn't to say it is 100% dead, but at times it'll work if I smack the button about a few times, and sometimes it will be completely unresponsive. I have read up on the subject and found a thread with a response from a guy claiming to be an engineer who said the micro switches they use in these phones are somewhat weak and only work for a limited number of presses. Recently, I changed roms, and to my surprise the power button worked great for a short period of time. Since then, I've found that when my power button starts acting up, wiping the dalvik cache put it back to normal. This lead me to thinking, and I've come to believe it could very well be a hardware problem that is meant to happen. I am by no means a coder/programmer but I have studied it enough to know that certain code can be written for a device that sets a "timer" for a piece of hardware to die out or malfunction. If that's the case with this, then it makes sense somewhat that wiping the dalvik cache resets this timer for a short time. Anyone have any thoughts? Am I crazy tinfoil hat wearer or does this make some sense?

knarfrabot said:
My power button has been malfunctioning for about 2 months now. That isn't to say it is 100% dead, but at times it'll work if I smack the button about a few times, and sometimes it will be completely unresponsive. I have read up on the subject and found a thread with a response from a guy claiming to be an engineer who said the micro switches they use in these phones are somewhat weak and only work for a limited number of presses. Recently, I changed roms, and to my surprise the power button worked great for a short period of time. Since then, I've found that when my power button starts acting up, wiping the dalvik cache put it back to normal. This lead me to thinking, and I've come to believe it could very well be a hardware problem that is meant to happen. I am by no means a coder/programmer but I have studied it enough to know that certain code can be written for a device that sets a "timer" for a piece of hardware to die out or malfunction. If that's the case with this, then it makes sense somewhat that wiping the dalvik cache resets this timer for a short time. Anyone have any thoughts? Am I crazy tinfoil hat wearer or does this make some sense?
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I AGREE! I thought it broke a while ago but I did a complete wipe and put a brand new rom on it. Heck I almost sent it to Sammy but for some reason it stared working. I dont think its the dalvik cache though. I have a feeling its ClockworkMod Recovery because sometimes it says a key was disabled and I had problems after that. I couldnt lock my phone.

knarfrabot said:
My power button has been malfunctioning for about 2 monthsnow. That isn't to say it is 100% dead, but at times it'll work if I smack the button about a few times, and sometimes it will be completely unresponsive. I have read up on the subject and found a thread with a response from a guy claiming to be an engineer who said the micro switches they use in these phones are somewhat weak and only work for a limited number of presses. Recently, I changed roms, and to my surprise the power button worked great for a short period of time. Since then, I've found that when my power button starts acting up, wiping the dalvik cache put it back to normal. This lead me to thinking, and I've come to believe it could very well be a hardware problem that is meant to happen. I am by no means a coder/programmer but I have studied it enough to know that certain code can be written for a device that sets a "timer" for a piece of hardware to die out or malfunction. If that's the case with this, then it makes sense somewhat that wiping the dalvik cache resets this timer for a short time. Anyone have any thoughts? Am I crazy tinfoil hat wearer or does this make some sense?
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well, you solved your own theory in your statement. since when does smacking your phone equate to a software issue? my power button went in august, mostly. it started showing the behavior that you described about 4-6 weeks beforehand. i say mostly, because the physical button doesnt work anymore(rarely a response from it). but ive figured out how to work it to my advantage/needs. i can wake my phone by shaking it now, and put the screen to sleep. also can be done with a light smack in the right place on the back of the phone. but to be practicle, i remapped my search button to use as a power button and wake my phone with the volume button. really, the only hard part is navigating in the bootloader menu since the volume buttons wont work there with the power button broken. so ive learned to work it by lightly, very lightly, tapping on a certain place on the back of the phone near the power button. this "loosens" the volume buttons and lets me navigate the menu. then i tap the phone again to make a selection. this in no way indicates a software issue/conspiracy to me. when it just started displaying this behavior, i thought it might be a software issue too. but it turned out to be all physical damage.

You know, the funny thing about when it stops working is that it's never all at once.
It's a degrading process of malfunction until it takes repeated button pressing, not so much force, to work. After that it works so seldom that I'm forced to do something about it. It's for those reasons I think it's something more than a hardware problem.
From your experiences, even after a full wipe/new rom installation, your power button still doesn't work, if only for a brief time?
P.S. The new touch based recovery from team win works really well for those of us who can't use our power buttons
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium

@simms22
Hmm my guess is that there are multiple issues that result in a malfunctioning power button. Props to remapping your search button to lock your phone. It would be a great work around if my phone ever had this problem again. Have search to lock the phone and volume keys to wake it. I'm unsure how you remapped your search button though. Maybe you can tell me how?
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P.S. The new touch based recovery from team win works really well for those of us who can't use our power buttons
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Agreed! If you have no access to a computer with adb/fastboot control the touch ClockWorkMod recovery would be very useful.

knarfrabot said:
You know, the funny thing about when it stops working is that it's never all at once.
It's a degrading process of malfunction until it takes repeated button pressing, not so much force, to work. After that it works so seldom that I'm forced to do something about it. It's for those reasons I think it's something more than a hardware problem.
From your experiences, even after a full wipe/new rom installation, your power button still doesn't work, if only for a brief time?
P.S. The new touch based recovery from team win works really well for those of us who can't use our power buttons
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium
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ive been using twrp recovery for a while. even the non touch version has a no power button option. but i dont believe that theres anything else but hardware issues here. it is a degradation. at first it comes and goes, later it mostly just comes( ) and doesnt go. i can even hear a slight rattle in the power button area now if i shake the phone.
about after flashing.. at first, 50% of the time it would work after flashing, but it was just coincidence. but now no. btw, i flash many times a day, even then when it first started acting funny. flashing, wiping, it just doesnt make a difference, its coincidence.
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@simms22
Hmm my guess is that there are multiple issues that result in a malfunctioning power button. Props to remapping your search button to lock your phone. It would be a great work around if my phone ever had this problem again. Have search to lock the phone and volume keys to wake it. I'm unsure how you remapped your search button though. Maybe you can tell me how?
Agreed! If you have no access to a computer with adb/fastboot control the touch ClockWorkMod recovery would be very useful.
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ButtonRemapper app, available here on xda for free http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9399440&postcount=1
you want v0241. i have all the power button functionality with my search key except waking the device(volume rocker wakes my device). short press screen off, long press power menu, long press plus volume down for screenshots.

@tw1tchy, I totally agree it is multiple factors, which is why I can only speak for myself based on my experiences, although your overall experience seems to be similar to mine.
@simms22, I have never noticed a rattle in my phone, its likely that you and I have different causes attributed to the power button failure.
Not trying to beat a dead horse but just for the sake of being thorough, have you tried ODIN? I noticed a substantial difference when I ODIN'ed back to stock.
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Me everytime I drop my phone on concrete my battery door opens and the battery falls of my phone...And you know what's the most odd part ...I get scratches on my phone when I pick it up .....Does anyone else gets this ??
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I really like my Nexus S, but I kinda hope this power button self destruct kicks in soon. I see it as a feature - to make buying a Galaxy Nexus easier to justify. Good looking out Sammy.

I've had a similar problem for the last 4 months or so. It started when I dropped my nexus without the cover onto concrete floor. Not good I know.
But anyway...ever since then the power button been funny. Sometimes it didn't work at all and I couldn't turn the screen off and on. It was really bad. It took a while but now I kind of know how to handle it. Still annoying mind u.
Basically with mine the trick is to press the button really really hard towards the top end and it works fine. I've also noticed what some others are saying about changing rooms and doing resets etc. It seems to help as well.
But yeah...I still love my nexus. Lol. I think by me dropping it is the reason for my problems. It probably landed badly and loosened some part of the connection in that section or something. But as I said...all Is good now that I know the trick to it.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

I've had my NS since Christmas Eve 2009 and the power button completely stopped working 2 days ago. I did notice over the past few weeks that it wasn't responding properly. TBH, my NS has been through a LOT in the past 14-months (multiple impacts, spillages, kids etc), I'm surprised it's lasted this long
I'm now using the ButtonRemapper app to use 'search' as the power button. Works great! Plus my volume keys wake the phone up so all is ok.
I love my NS and wish I bought another one when CPW had them for £150 sim free!
It might be time for me to let go of the NS , just have to decide which phone is next (but thats for another thread lol)

ugh mine is under a year old. im very angry that this happened so quickly. im gonna try giving samsung a call. hopefully the will replace it. i shouldn't have to hack my phone in order to make it usable.

@rener78 You seem to have a vast misunderstanding of how sarcasm works. Just as future reference, posting dry, tasteless irony up on the internet as a smart-mouthed statement of ill will is about as practical as a chocolate teapot.
@staplebox Lol! Well played, sir or madam. I can't say posting a thread containing the words conspiracy theory doesn't grant me at least a well placed snarky comment. Although to be fair, I was kinda bored when I wrote it.
@ALL Yes, I get it, we've all dropped our phones before. I guess I expected a bit more from Sammy since my little old HTC hero that I beat halfway to hell is still going strong, while I pampered this nexus and its already giving me problems >1 year in but that's a whole different discussion I suppose.
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great mine just went out yesterday... had mine for a ltl over a year now.
No tapping certain areas or anything works.
I did notice it slowly degrade over the past few weeks.
I used the fix my power button app so my volume keys wake up my phone, but sometimes after using that 5 or 6 times it will stop working too so i have to plug my phone in the charger to turn it on. Is there another way of getting the volume keys to act as a wake button??
edit: i'm gonna try out that button remapper i saw in an earlier post.

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great mine just went out yesterday... had mine for a ltl over a year now.
No tapping certain areas or anything works.
I did notice it slowly degrade over the past few weeks.
I used the fix my power button app so my volume keys wake up my phone, but sometimes after using that 5 or 6 times it will stop working too so i have to plug my phone in the charger to turn it on. Is there another way of getting the volume keys to act as a wake button??
edit: i'm gonna try out that button remapper i saw in an earlier post.
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if you are using an ics rom go to the main settings, security, lockscreen.. now disable the lockscreen. you can now wake your device with the volume button. its a feature built into ics.

interesting did not know this. Thanks, I think I'm still gonna use the button remapper to change the function of the search key to the power so I can reboot and stuff and go into recovery and such easier since i'm running cm9.

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interesting did not know this. Thanks, I think I'm still gonna use the button remapper to change the function of the search key to the power so I can reboot and stuff and go into recovery and such easier since i'm running cm9.
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thats what i do. my search button has all the features of the power button but being able to wake the device.

Here's another question what if i need to pull the battery?? I'm rooted and running CM9 what if i go into a boot loop and i need to pull the battery with no charger around (i know how to do it with a charger) would the button remap solve this?

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Here's another question what if i need to pull the battery?? I'm rooted and running CM9 what if i go into a boot loop and i need to pull the battery with no charger around (i know how to do it with a charger) would the button remap solve this?
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no. the button remapper app doesnt do anything when off or the screens off. honestly, i no boot many times a week(because i test the trinity kernel as its being developed before release), ive figured out a system of light taps near the power button to let the volume buttons let me scroll, and to select in the bootloader.so for me its a non issue. to power up from being powered up, i dont do anything. a, pluging in powers it. b, tapping the back powers it when no usb is available. c, it powers up by itself usually, seconds to a few minutes after powering off.

Being a heavy user of my nexus s since July 2011, the power button died last Sunday.
One of the most important problems i had after that was that i was unable to lock bootloader before giving the mobile to samsung service, because the stuck power button caused problems to fastboot commands and the bootloater usage(menu) in general.
Finally i decided to go to the service and give the phone. The result was that in about an hour they replaced the button and gave me back the mobile. The repair was covered by the 2 years warranty and the unlocked bootloader did not cause any problem to that.
Up to now i have a "brand new" nexus s and i hope that the new button will last much longer.

Focus not turning on

I have had my Focus for one year now, and last night it shut its self off and will not turn back on. It has randomly shut off four or five times in the past two weeks, and I thought it was a hold button issue because I would go to lock my screen and nothing would happen, and then a few seconds later it would show the power down screen. I would always swipe up to navigate out of it but sometimes it would end up shutting off anyway. So now I can't get it to start up by pressing the hold button, but when I insert the battery it will show the Samsung screen for a few seconds and then shut down. Any Help ?

lsguntu said:
I have had my Focus for one year now, and last night it shut its self off and will not turn back on. It has randomly shut off four or five times in the past two weeks, and I thought it was a hold button issue because I would go to lock my screen and nothing would happen, and then a few seconds later it would show the power down screen. I would always swipe up to navigate out of it but sometimes it would end up shutting off anyway. So now I can't get it to start up by pressing the hold button, but when I insert the battery it will show the Samsung screen for a few seconds and then shut down. Any Help ?
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It is either the power button or the battery. Search the forum for "power button" and you'll get threads with similar issues as yours. In most cases it is the power button, though.

^ Do you really think its power button issue? Because once in a while when i press the power button the phone starts but will shut down after the samsung logo.

lsguntu said:
^ Do you really think its power button issue? Because once in a while when i press the power button the phone starts but will shut down after the samsung logo.
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How many seconds after starting up does it shut down?
Do this test: when powered down, lean the phone so the power button is pointing to the ground and tap a few times on the phone (to unstuck the power button). Then connect the power from the outlet (to start up the phone). Try this a few times. If it starts up normally even once, then your problem is the power button.

EnderPsp said:
How many seconds after starting up does it shut down?.
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For around 6 seconds..It is not going pass SAMSUNG logo screen.
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Do this test: when powered down, lean the phone so the power button is pointing to the ground and tap a few times on the phone (to unstuck the power button). Then connect the power from the outlet (to start up the phone). Try this a few times. If it starts up normally even once, then your problem is the power button.
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I tried this but no luck . I tried another battery but no luck..I will take it to service center tomorrow and lets see what they have to say. :crying::crying::crying::crying:

lsguntu said:
For around 6 seconds..It is not going pass SAMSUNG logo screen.
I tried this but no luck . I tried another battery but no luck..I will take it to service center tomorrow and lets see what they have to say. :crying::crying::crying::crying:
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6 seconds sounds like the power button stays pressed, turns off as it would be kept pressed.
Sorry mate, good luck with that. Look at the other threads, there are a couple of repair tips there.

EnderPsp said:
6 seconds sounds like the power button stays pressed, turns off as it would be kept pressed.
Sorry mate, good luck with that. Look at the other threads, there are a couple of repair tips there.
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Finally i got it fixed. It costed me around $30 US dollars. Service center guy told me that he did the following
1) Replaced ON/OFF Switch
2) Replaced charging connector which was burnt.
I recently bought and used Batteries from ebay.com and they might screwed the phone? no idea..

switch failure has nothing to do with dodgy batteries but just shoddy workmanship from sammy, much like the sgs3 which also equips another horrendously fragile on/off switch
by the way, did they replace just the internal microswitch or the switch as a whole, button and all?

lsguntu said:
Finally i got it fixed. It costed me around $30 US dollars. Service center guy told me that he did the following
1) Replaced ON/OFF Switch
2) Replaced charging connector which was burnt.
I recently bought and used Batteries from ebay.com and they might screwed the phone? no idea..
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Thanks for posting your solution! Would you please share with us where you repaired it so others looking for solutions have a starting point.
Cheers :victory:

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switch failure has nothing to do with dodgy batteries but just shoddy workmanship from sammy, much like the sgs3 which also equips another horrendously fragile on/off switch
by the way, did they replace just the internal microswitch or the switch as a whole, button and all?
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I think they replaced entire switch unit. This is not the first samsung focus who has switch problem. One of my friend got the switch problem in 1 week of purchase of new phone.

EnderPsp said:
Thanks for posting your solution! Would you please share with us where you repaired it so others looking for solutions have a starting point.
Cheers :victory:
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I got this fixed in Elephant House, Ameerpet, Hyderabad, India. This is NOT an authorized service center which I got this fixed. But this guys screwed up my volume button... I can increase the volume but not decrease.. I dont want to go to the service center again as its very far from my home.. Any app which can decrease the volume?
Note :- Its NOT a software problem ..Service guys did not reset or make changes to the phone related to software/OS.

lsguntu said:
I got this fixed in Elephant House, Ameerpet, Hyderabad, India. This is NOT an authorized service center which I got this fixed. But this guys screwed up my volume button... I can increase the volume but not decrease.. I dont want to go to the service center again as its very far from my home.. Any app which can decrease the volume?
Note :- Its NOT a software problem ..Service guys did not reset or make changes to the phone related to software/OS.
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Sorry to hear that another button may be busted. Yes there is a homebrew volume rocker.

lsguntu said:
I think they replaced entire switch unit. This is not the first samsung focus who has switch problem. One of my friend got the switch problem in 1 week of purchase of new phone.
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hrmmm, i'm not liking this; here i can find a wide variety of spare parts for android based samsungs but absolutely zero for this device
i thought i could improvise something with another model in a worst case scenario
thank you for the report

my yotaphone is dead

it was working and suddenly it just died ive tried charging it and ive tried pressing power and power + volumen up and down and nothing seems to work. Any thoughts, ideas? the back cover is stuck in a notification it doesnt work also it seems to charge on the Wireless charger

luisumf said:
it was working and suddenly it just died ive tried charging it and ive tried pressing power and power + volumen up and down and nothing seems to work. Any thoughts, ideas? the back cover is stuck in a notification it doesnt work also it seems to charge on the Wireless charger
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Try to get into download mode. Or wait a while
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luisumf said:
it was working and suddenly it just died ive tried charging it and ive tried pressing power and power + volumen up and down and nothing seems to work. Any thoughts, ideas? the back cover is stuck in a notification it doesnt work also it seems to charge on the Wireless charger
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Try pressing power for about 15 seconds, it should reset then.

SteadyQuad said:
Try pressing power for about 15 seconds, it should reset then.
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it doesnt reset the power button is useless, i guess ill have to wait for the battery to drain maybe then it restarts

adamo86 said:
Try to get into download mode. Or wait a while
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how do i get it in download mode?

luisumf said:
how do i get it in download mode?
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The easiest way is plugging the usb cable (which is connected to your computer) to your phone while holding volume down button. No need to press power button. From download mode you can boot to recovery etc with the help of your pc.

Jeopardy said:
The easiest way is plugging the usb cable (which is connected to your computer) to your phone while holding volume down button. No need to press power button. From download mode you can boot to recovery etc with the help of your pc.
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did not work

This sounds more and more like a case for Yota's repair center. If there wasn't something broken in the device one of these methods described in this thread should have worked.

Sounds like hardware to me.

I had the same issue. Left it on the table with the e-ink screen on top, came back hours later, the clock was 90 minutes behind and the phone dead. Resetting with 10 Seconds ON/OFF button didn´t work. Had to send it in. 2 weeks later got it back. They said they had to change the whole motherboard, even got a new IMEI with it. Then a few days later I tried the main camera and it did not work, error message by Android, unaccessible camera... Then by pressure on the camera it worked sometimes, sometimes only misty lines, sometimes splitscreen mode, sometimes not. Maybe a mistake by the service while reassembling the phone? Anyway, had to send it in AGAIN, got it back, sold it on ebay with 130 Euros loss and bought a new white one because I love the principle and options of the second screen so much. The white one is a newer batch, they say with some new (and probably more reliable?) hardware, so up until now I am completely satisfied, no error for 6 weeks (fingers crossed...)
My old black one was maybe a monday batch

petra333 said:
I had the same issue. Left it on the table with the e-ink screen on top, came back hours later, the clock was 90 minutes behind and the phone dead. Resetting with 10 Seconds ON/OFF button didn´t work. Had to send it in. 2 weeks later got it back. They said they had to change the whole motherboard, even got a new IMEI with it. Then a few days later I tried the main camera and it did not work, error message by Android, unaccessible camera... Then by pressure on the camera it worked sometimes, sometimes only misty lines, sometimes splitscreen mode, sometimes not. Maybe a mistake by the service while reassembling the phone? Anyway, had to send it in AGAIN, got it back, sold it on ebay with 130 Euros loss and bought a new white one because I love the principle and options of the second screen so much. The white one is a newer batch, they say with some new (and probably more reliable?) hardware, so up until now I am completely satisfied, no error for 6 weeks (fingers crossed...)
My old black one was maybe a monday batch
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Hi Petra. Since you're using a Yotaphone as well, could I ask you to do a small favour for me please? After I had my YP rooted I accidentally deleted the system app "back screen manager". My back screen has stopped working since then. It'd be fantastic if you could just extract the system app from your phone and send it to me so that I can manually place the system app on my phone root folder. You don't have to root your phone for this. All you need is an App extractor from play store. And it will take less than 5 mins to extract and send it to me(Assuming that you are well versed with android OS). Here's my email address [email protected] or you could send me a link to the shared file. Do let me know if you are willing or not. Thanks a ton.

RIP my SGS4?

HELP.. RIP my SGS4?
Okay so I have been researching for the last week for solutions..in fact i have not found the exact same problem I have..
Samsung Galaxy S4 White 16gb Rogers
Running Lollipop that was pushed by rogers
Not rooted, nothing custom
Battery works fine on other S4's, new battery didn't help my phone
Problem: Every time i turn it on, it shows the "SAMSUNG GALAXY S4" for about a second or two and then turns off and wont turn on again until i take the battery out and put it back in...where it does that again, before i could drain any sparks left from the phone before putting the battery back in and it would turn on and i can use it until i touch the power button, where it would pop the prompt to turn off/restart device where then it would just turn off.. if it got a little to heated it would do the same. My friend is a phone technician and he said he cant find the problem...so I am hoping someone here can help me out. The battery will probably die soon and I cant seem to get it to charge.
I have factory reset it twice and nothing helped. I factory reset in recovery mode both times.
I hope everyone has a wonderful day and someone is able to help me out.. I kinda dont have a phone now Anyways, thanks.
P.S. I can upload a video to show you what I mean if you dont understand my typing lol.

My only advice is the typical one, use Odin to restore, rather than factory reset.

EagleClaws87 said:
HELP.. RIP my SGS4?
Okay so I have been researching for the last week for solutions..in fact i have not found the exact same problem I have..
Samsung Galaxy S4 White 16gb Rogers
Running Lollipop that was pushed by rogers
Not rooted, nothing custom
Battery works fine on other S4's, new battery didn't help my phone
Problem: Every time i turn it on, it shows the "SAMSUNG GALAXY S4" for about a second or two and then turns off and wont turn on again until i take the battery out and put it back in...where it does that again, before i could drain any sparks left from the phone before putting the battery back in and it would turn on and i can use it until i touch the power button, where it would pop the prompt to turn off/restart device where then it would just turn off.. if it got a little to heated it would do the same. My friend is a phone technician and he said he cant find the problem...so I am hoping someone here can help me out. The battery will probably die soon and I cant seem to get it to charge.
I have factory reset it twice and nothing helped. I factory reset in recovery mode both times.
I hope everyone has a wonderful day and someone is able to help me out.. I kinda dont have a phone now Anyways, thanks.
P.S. I can upload a video to show you what I mean if you dont understand my typing lol.
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I had this exact same problem. It's an issue with the power switch. Mine went away after a while one time, the second time I just mashed the power button and put in the battery to see if it would turn on and kept doing that until it worked. It can also help if you just tap that side of the phone on a hard surface, maybe aim the button for the edge of your desk, but not hard.
More technical alternatives involve opening up the phone and cleaning the contacts of the power button with a q-tip and rubbing alcohol, or just desoldering and soldering a new one after testing the old one with a multimeter.
EDIT: as far a new phones go, I'd keep an eye between the Nexus phones and the Moto X Pure Edition.

joe_modo said:
My only advice is the typical one, use Odin to restore, rather than factory reset.
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Will Odin work even I can't get into Download mode or Recovery? I mean I got a way to keep the phone on but if it turns off again im gonna try odin, havnt used odin in over 2 years so i kinda forgot how it works lol

DeadlySin9 said:
I had this exact same problem. It's an issue with the power switch. Mine went away after a while one time, the second time I just mashed the power button and put in the battery to see if it would turn on and kept doing that until it worked. It can also help if you just tap that side of the phone on a hard surface, maybe aim the button for the edge of your desk, but not hard.
More technical alternatives involve opening up the phone and cleaning the contacts of the power button with a q-tip and rubbing alcohol, or just desoldering and soldering a new one after testing the old one with a multimeter.
EDIT: as far a new phones go, I'd keep an eye between the Nexus phones and the Moto X Pure Edition.
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Yea I opened it up and looked in, the screen connector ribbon looked like as if ink or black marker was put on it and i cleaned it up and it turned on but after hitting power button it turned off... but i got it on but squeezing the screen and back near the power button when using it and it seems to make the power button work.. I got an app to lock my screen but i guess until i get a new phone i can stick with this sideline for my phone haha. Thanks tho
As for phones, I love the Nexus family haha, Moto X Pure isnt in Canada It would be to much of a hassle to get it in though i could. I really want the Xperia Z5, Nexus 5x or 6p. As a graphic designer everyone is telling me to get an iPhone tho... Ill see when ever the S4 gives out on whats in the market #Android4Life.
EDIT: I also tried the banging thing and stuff and it didnt help lol

EagleClaws87 said:
Yea I opened it up and looked in, the screen connector ribbon looked like as if ink or black marker was put on it and i cleaned it up and it turned on but after hitting power button it turned off... but i got it on but squeezing the screen and back near the power button when using it and it seems to make the power button work.. I got an app to lock my screen but i guess until i get a new phone i can stick with this sideline for my phone haha. Thanks tho
As for phones, I love the Nexus family haha, Moto X Pure isnt in Canada It would be to much of a hassle to get it in though i could. I really want the Xperia Z5, Nexus 5x or 6p. As a graphic designer everyone is telling me to get an iPhone tho... Ill see when ever the S4 gives out on whats in the market #Android4Life.
EDIT: I also tried the banging thing and stuff and it didnt help lol
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Does holding the home button power your phone? Mine does, though it takes about 10 seconds to do so.
And please don't listen to that iPhone nonsense, why would a graphic designer ever do so?!

joe_modo said:
Does holding the home button power your phone? Mine does, though it takes about 10 seconds to do so.
And please don't listen to that iPhone nonsense, why would a graphic designer ever do so?!
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It powers up and shows "Samsung Galaxy S4" but goes to a black screen after seeing the logo for 2-4 seconds, i have to take it apart and reconnect everything on the motherboard, plug it into an outlet and boot in download mode and then reboot the phone for it to turn on, and the second the power button is touched, it turns off in 5 seconds. Today the GS4 turned off by itself twice and it took my about 2 hours to get it back on.
I love androids, don't get me wrong, Android>iPhone>Blackberry>Windows phone.. I chose an android over the iPhone already, twice. As of right now, performance wise the iPhone seems to be pretty good, price wise? Apple needs to die. lol. Overall I would pick between the Z5, iPhone 6+/6s+ or any of the upcoming Nexus phones. Which ever is cheaper or better money wise at the time when my GS4 fully dies off...which will be soon... is the phone ill get. Which is why I have the pole up there..
I currently use Samsung Tab A and the SGS4 and an iPod Touch 5th gen. Everything runs smooth on my iPod tho.. so I can't wait until I get either the Z5, iP or Nexus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l_6fwzuIwA
Anyone think i should try this??
That is my problem, the phone turning off right away