MDA Vario-TomTom 5- Emtac CruxII Heeeeellllp - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Hiya,
I think the subject line says it all...
I've got my good 'ol Tomtom navigator 5 running on my Vario just fine.
I cannot get it to connect to my GPS unit ( Emtac CruxII BTGPS ((Sirf))
I had this all working on my iPaq, although I always had to force the GPS onto NMEA using GPStweak. I could live with that...
I've paired succesfully, it shows port 6. ( unsecured )
Sirftweak & TomTom only show ports 0, 1, 2, 3, 4(ir),& 9
No matter what I do I can't connect.
I tried an " interesting " version of iGO and it connected straight away, I would have been very happy with that if I only wanted to navigate anywhere outside the UK. ( The Great Britain map just won't work )
Come on Guys, help or I will destroy the Known Universe ( I'm pissed off )
Cheers
The Mighty Tharg - Bringer of flatulance - God of noisey plumbing during the early hours etc..

OK, Update...
Updated to TT5.2 and com 6 appeared.. Hooray!
No way to switch over Emtac CruxII to NMEA.. Boo!
I used my 'ol iPAQ and sirftweak to do the change over and it all works..
Now the next problem, the btgps defaults to SiRF after a while.
Sirftweak and cruxview run on the Vario, but can't see port 6.
Does anyone know of a way to do this on the Vario, it seems silly to carry the iPaq about at the same time!
Maybe a command to send via a terminal prog or something????
I know, buy a new NMEA gps.. but where is the fun in that
Someone must have got around this one.
Someone........?????
Please.......
...

Got it working at last..
I downloaded cruxview ( I had been using the version from my iPAQ )
again, it has exactly the same version number but the new one can see port 6!
Yay!

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TOMTOM 5 compatible??

considering getting tomtom5 for my mda compact.
anyone know whether its compatible, has anyone got it?
Should be. TomTom 3 and 4 worked fine.
By the way, Bakonl's release of TomTom 5 was just posted on alt.binaries.warez.pocketpc.gps, along with a few maps.
Benelux map only.. :x
TT5 does work
and not only benlux maps are posted. italy, france, germany, spain, uk are posted as well. rest will be posted as well i guess.
anyway, waiting for my legal TT5 to arrive (with the bt gps), woei =)
I can't get it working... I tried installing in the program files and in the storage card directories but it crashes at the end of the tutorial, just after that the "Welcome to TomTom Navigator" message appears in the map screen.
I can't see the map nor the GPS is able to connect (TomTom "3" Navigator Wireless).
I can't find any registry entry, I modified the currentmap.dat in order to point to /storage card/italia-map.
Anyone was able to reproduce my problem and to solve it?
Yeah, I noticed there are a few maps out. I'd like Scandinavia tho Seems like a buggy version too.. Crashes often.
Yeah... reeeeally buggy, I tried to check the post in the alt.warez.pocketpc.gps newsgroup for infos about bugs/problems etc. but I can't find it in my nssp server and using the web I'm not able to see the post (I can just see the header) so... I still can't use it :lol: ; maybe it could be a bad installer, I noticed that sometimes it won't install some cabs from the cd, or maybe it's just the italian map which is corrupt... who knows? 8)
I guess the release on alt.binaries is a preview or beta version.
The official release of Tomtom 5 will be end of June.
Im still waiting for Destinator PN on emule...
Where can i find the TomTom 5?
I have installed TomTom 5 to see if it works, I'm unable to connect my BlueTooth GPS (Holux GPSlim 236). The port does not show up on the device list under Buzz WM2005.
Does anybody know how to change this?
Ikkuh
I have installed TomTom 5 , I'm able to connect my BlueTooth GPS (Holux GPSlim 236) on port 4
work OK for me !!!
JesperR said:
Where can i find the TomTom 5?
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www.tomtom.com
Stefan
bruxelles5 said:
I have installed TomTom 5 , I'm able to connect my BlueTooth GPS (Holux GPSlim 236) on port 4
work OK for me !!!
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I had the same problem.... go to the bluetooth com ports, change the GSM to use COM8.
Then start -> settings -> gps, on the first tab set com4 and on the second tab tom com8. The thrid tab should have the checkbox set.
Now reset your device.
Start tomtom, goto your GSM setup, choose Other bluetooth, select COM4.
Now exit tomtom and reset your device.
Start tomtom and wait a while (can take a few minutes for it to find the GPS).
This worked for me (you need the resets in order to detect the com ports!!)
Ikkuh
@Ikkuh,
How can I change the Com port settings on my MDA Compact? I can't seem to understand you're solution. I need Com 8 and TT5 only has 2,4,5 and 9.
Thanks in advance!
dickr43 said:
@Ikkuh,
How can I change the Com port settings on my MDA Compact? I can't seem to understand you're solution. I need Com 8 and TT5 only has 2,4,5 and 9.
Thanks in advance!
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There is a serial port multiplexer build in just for the GPS. It is under settings -> GPS, if you use this, you can create a virtual serial port, and attach it to the hardware GPS. If you do this and reset the device, the virtual GPS will show up in TomTom (in my case it did ;-) )
Ikkuh
I must admit dickr43 has got a point. Even though you are trying to be helpful, Ikkuh, it's a bit hard to understand.
Start tomtom, goto your GSM setup, choose Other bluetooth, select COM4.
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There IS no GSM setup in TT. Most likely you mean GPS?
There is a serial port multiplexer build in just for the GPS. It is under settings -> GPS, if you use this, you can create a virtual serial port
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Doesn't exist either. Must be some third party app you have installed...
dickr43,
Try removing your GPS pairing from the Magician. Go select the 'Bluetooth Setting' icon under Settings/System and make sure both the serial ports are activated. Note which COM port is 'Outbound', then re-pair with your GPS device. Start TT and in the GPS settings panel, you should get things running by selecting the COM port that was marked for Outbound.
Unless you are running some third party software with virtual BT COM ports, that should get you up and running. If you are, try each COM port one by one. Don't hurry through the ports, but give it time to connect. 5-10 seconds at least. Also make absolutely sure your GPS is within range and has a satellite fix, or you are wasting your time.
I cant use tomtom 5 as a route map
I just want to use it sometimes without the gps module is it possible. Because with the older version it was possible to select a GPS simulator.
THX :lol:
The "unofficial" versions of TomTom5 doing the rounds seem to have been taken from beta builds. I installed without any problems, but noticed a number of bugs (not recognising GPS, the program freezing, picking up wild GPS info, settings not sticking)... sometimes you'd think it was working, and you'd think you'd got it stable, but then they'd fall down.
I've tried 3 different versions doing the rounds right now and none of them are stable. I'll wait a month or so for a more finished release is available.
i got my hands on TT5 aswell, the program looks realy nice and lot improvement to TT3, but as mentioned above, it's not very stable, spontain exiting of TT5 is not cool when youre in the middle of no where.
my gps was recognized directley,
i just went to BT settings and checked Com5 and a messege apeared that i must bond with a compatible device, so i bonded with my GPS reciever and in the TT wizard i could chose Com5 and it connected right away, much easyer than TT3
regards.
Hi,
I am considering getting TOMTOM5 for my T-Mobile MDA Compact and would like to use this in my car. Does anyone know or can provide screen shots of what the display looks like? Is it easily readable while driving?
Thanks
Msuk

Will TomTom Navigator 5.x work with the Universal?

Hi, I'm hoping to get the new Windows Mobile 5 device dubbed the HTC Universal, AKA o2 xda Exec.
TomTom tell me TomTom Navigator 5 is NOT compatible with it.
www.mobilefun.co.uk state that it is compatible.
Some people on forums say they have 5.1 working with the device.
Other people state the Bluetooth won't lock in.
Does anyone here know the truth?
Yes it will work
It works. I use TT 5.1 about every day (via a bluetooth receiver). Here's the instructions to install the program.
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=28171&highlight=
Go about half way down.
To install your BT GPS receiver. First pair the device. Then add a new COM Port under the Bluetooth settings. You want to add an OUTGOING port. I usually specify it as COM0. Then start up TT5, go into GPS configuration, selct "Other BT Receiver", then select COM0 from the menu. TOMTOM will automatically start up BT (it doesn't have to on before you launch the program), find the already paired receiver and start communicating with (give it some time though. the whole process takes about 30 seconds to a minute).
Hope this helps.
Cool, thanks!
And finally... I assume the Universal can support 2 simultaneous bluetooth connections? E.g. can I use TomTom with the bluetooth GPS at the same time as speaking on a bluetooth car kit?
To keep things simple
Tomtom 5.0 does NOT work with the Universal. Tomtom 5.1 Does. Hpoe this helps
Received my T-Mobile UK MDA PRO today. I can confirm that TomTom 5.1 DOES work great on it with any bluetooth GPS device, although it was a few hours before I stumbled upon a thread in this forum which had instructions on how to get it working
jasjar works fine with tt5.1 and can connect at same time with gps,headset and many bluetooth devices
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mikeycollins13 said:
Tomtom 5.0 does NOT work with the Universal. Tomtom 5.1 Does. Hpoe this helps
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Yes it does. I have 5.0 running on my JASJAR now. Haven't upgraded to 5.1 yet in case it breaks something.
just replace the tomtom navigator.exe with the 5.1 version, all done.
How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
Re: How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
mikeycollins13 said:
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
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It does work, if you follow the guide in this thread exactly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386
However, I had to use COM4 instead of COM0.
I also had a problem where I connected everything to the right COM port, could see TomTom accessing the GPS device by the LEDs, but still "no GPS device found!" - it seems TomTom likes your GPS device better if it's actually locked onto a signal (so go outside!), give all this a try
...talking of TTN5....
Has anyone had any success getting TT working with the Wired GPS mouse? Is there a way to connect it to the Exec...?(mini USB to serial connector?)
If the 2 can be physically connected, does the software see it/connect up properly?
TIA
cheers
Paul
FYI, I emailed TOMTOM about the installer crashing, and guess what they said. "TOMTOM 5 is not supported on the IMATE JasJar."
What a load of cobblers. It works perfectly well if you install it using the cab files. TOMTOM support is the biggest load of s**t I have ever come across.
JJ works fine with the following:
1) Navigon MN 5
2) TT 5.1
3) OnCourse Navigator
4) iGuidance
These have been tried and tested.
Just cause it's not supported it doesn't mean they don't think it'll work. it just means that they won't help you fix it if it goes wrong becuase they have not tested on that platform. always worth a try regardless of what the vendor or devlopers say!
Another MDA Pro with TT5
I just got an MDA Pro a couple of weeks ago, and being the fool I am, bought a copy of Tom Tom 5 from Fleabay (doh!).
On receipt, I could not get the software to load from my PC, and when trying to copy over the cab files manually, the ttn.cab file will not load on the PDA. On closer inspection, this has got something to do with 'Bekonl' so appers I have wasted some money on cracked software that does not work.
Is this right? Or if I can obtain an alternative ttn.cab file, will it load, if so will it be locked? I was just looking for a reasonable low priced SatNav solution - but this is proving to be harder than I thought!
For those of you coming from a WM2003 device you can simply install TomTom on a memory card on that. Take the memory card out and put in Universal. It works. That's it.
I am not unfortunately. I am coming from a Mk1 paper diary, a £3.99 map from the petrol station, and a bullet proof Nokia 6310i!
All help gratefully received though.
Tuscan said:
I am not unfortunately. I am coming from a Mk1 paper diary, a £3.99 map from the petrol station, and a bullet proof Nokia 6310i!
All help gratefully received though.
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If the ttn cab fails to install try this;
uninstall all tomtom entries from remove programs.
Remove sd card from device
install gps.cab
soft reset (this is the important bit)
install ttn.cab
JJ
JJ works fine with Oziexplorer, Tomtom5x
:wink:

Win Fast Navigator (GPS-Program to reset GPS-Mouse)

Hi Dudes !
Anyone can help me to make that Program ftp://www.leadtek.nl/mirror/gps/Tools/WinCEMonitor.zip
usefull ?
I need it really to reset my Holux BT 236-Mouse, because every 2-3 Weeks that thing freeze and get no sat-fixes.
That is the only Program, who can fix that bug with a factory-settings reset on the mouse.
Now the Problem:
The Program Win Fast works on my VPA4,- but it shows me only these Ports to get a connection:
IRCOMM Com3
Serial_FIR Com2
Serial Com6 (RIL)
Serial_BTU Com7
Serial_dbg Com1 (Cable)
QCTComposi Com9 (Data Interface)
here is no Port 4 !
On my old XDA IIi the Program works on Com 6 and it shows me the Ports 1-6 and Port 9,- thats complete other Ports than under WM5.
My BT-Settings:
My GPS-Mouse come in Com4
and there is a incoming Port on Com8
In the GPS-Programm-Settings (Today, Settings, Connections)
There is Com Port 4 (Hardware)
and
Port 7 for Software
TomTom5 and Sky-Map (Flightnavigation)
both works fine with Port 4 like the Mouse-
but not Win Fast Navigator...
What is the best way to get a connection with these Program ?
I heard, that WM5 can manage all these Ports...
Anyone have an idea ???
I want to stop using my old Device,- but without these Program i need the old one too :?
Thanks for help,-
Jay
I tried WinFast Navigator with my Holux GPSlim236, but found no port configuration with which the o2 Exec (Universal) would communicate.
Before buying the Holux 236, I looked at many other manufacturer's manuals and many indicated that the retained current location can become lost or invalid leading to a long "Time-To-First-Fix" when next activated. This happens particularly when not activated for some time, e.g. between 20 and 60-days, or when physically moved by over 500km. In these circumstances, a cold restart of the GPS receiver would be necessary.
The Holux 236 does come with a utility on CD-ROM (called GPS Viewer) that can warm or cold restart the receiver. This utility is also available from the Holux web-site:
http://www.holux.co.uk/Products/gpslim236/download.shtml
GPS-Viewer works on the o2 Exec, although not all the screen is viewable in landscape mode, and the cold-reset command does work.
Cool !
Thats correctly my opinion. I´m a pilot and fly many kilometers in short times, that is the reason, for the many full memorys on the SIRF III Chip.
After a factory reset, it work for a few days than it can´t fix again.
:evil:
But I didn´t know, that GPS-Viewer can do that thing and works on our device.
Thanks a lot,- but...yesterday i killed the damn mouse with too many factorystarts with my old XDA IIi and send it back to Holux.
They say, it needs only two or three days to get a new one.
They change it complete, and fix it with new software.
Also... why not ;-)
GPS-Viewer works after it too.
Greetings & many Thanks from Germany,
Jay :lol:
Glad that you got a good response from Holux, and hope the new device and firmware is better for you.
I've not managed to find a manual that covers the GPS Viewer program. The attached .PDF is from another manufacturer's device, but briefly describes the cold reset function. Hope that it helps you.
Viele Gruessen aus Grossbritannien!

Com Ports for TOMTOM and MDA Vario dont match

When setting up my COM port for my BT GPS my Vario only has PORTS 6,7
No matter which port i choose doesnt matter because in my tomtom it only has COM 0,2,3,9
I downloaded some software to give me extra ports but i was no help in my situation it only gave me PORT 5-8.
It is good software.
http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/
How can i link my bluetooth GPS with my tomtom without matching ports??
tomtom 5.12 works ok.... had the same problem with the older version
open \program files\navigator\navigator.cfg with a text editor and change the number after com to 6 or 7 (which ever you used in bt settings). Page is mostly garble but you'll see comx with x as the port currently set in tomtom. You can copy file to pc and open with wordpad. edit and copy back.
worked for me.
I use my Vario on ports 6 and 7 with 5.21 version upgrade
MDA vario
Do Varios Only have PORT 6 and 7??
I have a T-Mobile Vario and an O2 mini S.
I setup a new outgoing port for port 7 for the BT device (in the BT settings), but when I tried to setup the BT device in TT it did not show an option in the configure menu for the BT device of either 6 or 7.
As soon as I upgraded to TT V5.2 it showed the com port 7 setting available.
So I think you need to upgrade to TT V5.2.
Yes, try the latest update from tomtom.com which is available for free and install it.
here is the page:
http://www.tomtom.com/support/index.php?Language=1&FID=3361
Befor installing read the comaptibiliy list to be sure that this is the right update for youre device.
Got the Update
Thanks blueled
I must have been using the wrong update before!
I have it now But..........
This may seem dumb but now its asking me for a activation code any ideas on a cough**
I just copied and pasted the old one over can i use the sameone or do i need a new cough**
Were almost there with this dumby
Thanks for all the help!!
How Did you paste the update over the old. Was'nt it an exe file for installation ?
I updated without the need of a new activation.
But anyway... why don't you go to their webside and get a new activation ?
http://www.ttcode.com/index.php?strLang=eng
YYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS
Well done thanks for everyones help we have made it! updated and activated.
Now ive just got to find a good signal with this bluetooth box Ive got the Gellink one any comments?
I had a mouse from them and it just broke today. What is a good INEXPENSIVE GPS box?
Now im going to be laughing at my girl friend when she wants to use my phone for the SAT NAV. (im going to say NOPE)

MDA compact tomtom 5 cant see my GPS - please help

Have spent a long time trying to get my tomtom5 navigator working on my mda and now have it all going lovely - however I cant get my bluetooth reciever to be seen by tomtom. It is one of the BT-77 one that you see loads of on Ebay - did used to have it working with my old phone but not this one?
Any ideas - cant give up now!
Thanks
ROger
I have the same problem with an xdalls with a BT338 bluetooth gps.
I can get it to pair up. Tomtom5 does not see it though. Been thru all the settings that i can thing of.... i have the blue light flashing fast and then just logs off.
Paul
I have the BT-77 (also from ebay) and it works perfectly with the TomTom 5.21 software...
I had trouble with it initially too- it's to do with setting the right COM ports.
To get things working, I downloaded and installed Pocket Bluetooth Tools:
http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/ Download version 1.0.1.2
Delete any existing pair that you may have with the GPS receiver...
Re-pair the device with the above software installed, and now you will get an iconic menu, use the serial port option and select an available COM port. Complete pairing procedure as per on screen instruction.
Now start up TomTom and go to GPS options in preferences- select 'other bluetooth device' and now you should see the something called 'BT on COMx' x being the port you assigned earlier of course. Complete configuration.
Wait for the receiver to get a fix and you should be ready to go.
I've used the Pocket Bluetooth Tools many times on different variants of the Magician and has work everytime.
Hi
thanks for the info - but still nothing
cant cope anymore
will buy a whole new system i think!
Thanks anyway
Roger
HELLO!
Well at last it works - not really sure why?
But I dont care it works!
thanks for the help
Roger
Hi!
Just registered to try and find out how to get my MDA II working with a bluetooth GPS and I find this thread. Thank you for the link to the bluetooth tools it seems to have worked a treat.
Cool. Glad it is working for you guys.
The software also works well with using Bluetooth and ActiveSync.

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