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replacing the screen on a HTC 8125 wizard??

Ok, my LCD cracked. I have purchased another one, but I am wondering if anyone can tell me what kind of nightmare I am going to be in for in doing the replacement. (I have a lot of experience in repairing small electrical devices, music equipment, etc... so this isnt my first foray into this type of repair) but I have been looking over this phone, and it doesnt look like its going to be easy by any means, to get the the screen assembly. in fact, it almost looks like I am going to have to go at it through the Back of the phone (pain in the a$$). Any helpfull hints, or tips would be greatly appreciated. I have a couple days to wait, while I wait for my T6 torque driver to come in from order, so I am fishing for tips in the meantime. Thanks in advance!!

Somebody posted a link to a service manual pdf awhile back. I downloaded it then, and I just tried to attach it to this post, but it wouldn't let me. It said upload failed. But if you search around here and at howardforums.com, you'll probably find the original. It detailed the complete disassembly and reassembly of a wizard (actually an HTC Prodigy, but very similar to the Wizard).

You can find the manual at http://www.box.net/public/4enzlr1l8c

excellent, Thanks very much for the manual link, Thats going to come in VERY handy. Thanks again.

Vladpire said:
excellent, Thanks very much for the manual link, Thats going to come in VERY handy. Thanks again.
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can I ask where you purchased the screen? I just broke mine today.

myssteree said:
can I ask where you purchased the screen? I just broke mine today.
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You can buy the LCD here:
http://www.pdasmart.com/products/XDH-WZLCDpdaphonehtcmini.htm
Or if (Like me), your touchscreen is broken you can order from Hong Kong:
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-Cingular-81...ryZ41343QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Does anyone know how to replace the touchscreen once the LCD is out of the phone????
Steve

Low cost replacement screen...
myssteree said:
can I ask where you purchased the screen? I just broke mine today.
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I hope this info isnt too late, but I just bought a replacement LCD with the touch screen overlay for my gen 2 cingular 8125 for $65 shipped and insured. I got it off ebay. And that was a buy it now price. Here is a link to there ebay store... http://stores.ebay.com/e2shopstore. And here is an email address I got from him... [email protected]. The replacement LCD with the touch screen overlay for a gen 1 cingular 8125 was $95 shipped and insured.

damn lcd screen.......
anyone know offhand how to tell if your 8125 is gen 1 or 2 without disassembling the damn thing first?

One thing the manual doesn't tell you...
The volume slider tab might be vulnerable to less-than-careful extrication of the board. It's a pretty flimsy piece of plastic when you put pressure on it in a way it wasn't intended....
The other thing I found out is that a wedge shaped plastic tool for the case is a must. I bought one, and I am so, so glad I did. Otherwise you may break the tabs that hold your face plates on, or at least scratch 'em up pretty badly. A cuticle tool (for fingernails) might work pretty well if you don't want to spring (more), as long as the plastic isn't harder than the plastic of the face plates.

Volume slider broken
Blast! Some small metal thing pinged out when I was putting my Wizard back together again, and now my volume slider is flapping about loosely.
The manual has absolutely no detail about how this tiny piece of metal fits back in. Looks like there is a tiny switch with a miniscule vertical slot inside the wizard around that area.

I swear I posted this last night but is not appearing so here goes again:
Has anyone replaced the touchscreen only? Is it hard to separate from the LCD? My MDA had a dead center and I'd like to fix it while spending as little as possible, but if its going to be a problem I'll get the full LCD.

Ok does this version of english bother anyone else?
OEM Cingular 8125 PDA Touch Screen, it does not includes the main LCD. Please according the parts which showing in the item pictures.About my this item,it is just a touch screen, not the full LCD. It is glassy cover on the color LCD. It's for the one whose Dopod 818 i-Mate Jam touch screen was broken, or out of order, we can provide this replacement...So the buyer need not buy a full expensive replacement LCD,just for the touch screen problem...
Last time I bought something on ebay from a guy that talked like this I got a fake h700 that hat the bluetooth range of 2 ft, couldn't even wear my phone on my belt

anyone have the service manual for the cingular 8125? that htc wizard looks different than mine, mine is round? thanks

eddienj said:
anyone have the service manual for the cingular 8125? that htc wizard looks different than mine, mine is round? thanks
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Towards the beginning of this thread, there is a post with the link to a PDF. I checked it out, and it's for the prodigy but it looks almost exactly like my 8125 wizard.

almost... should taking it apart be the same? I don't want to ruin something, I would prefer to have the manual for my phone exactly.. thanks

Prodigy not exactly same as 8125
Took a good look at the pdf manual for the Prodigy...it's not close enough to the 8125 for me to feel comfortable disassembling the 8125.
I need to replace the clear screen only...got the tools (incl. plastic wedge), but will have to find an 8125 manual first.

The manual is pretty much right on except in one area. For the Wiza200 (t-mobile MDA), the backing is taken off from the back/side areas. For the Wiza100 (Cingular 8125), you need to take it off near the border of the keyboard. I posted some pictures a few months back in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=266382
I'm not sure how difficult it is to seperate the LCD and digitizer as I replaced the whole thing. And, as stated before, the volume slider is pretty fragile. It can break if its not seated in the actual button.

have you seen any exact manual, instruction, guide how to do that or just pics?
Thanks,
Tom

My lcd cracked a couple days ago...for no reason...i don't remember dropping it or anything....just have a long crack across the screen.
Now, the left half is black while the right half is barely visible. Paperweight....
Anyone in the NYC can fix this ?

I'll be working on my next week so i'll let you know.
Peace,
Tom

Got sold a broken phone, couple of questions before attempting LCD repair.

I bought a Cingular 8125 from a seller on another forum and it arrived with a broken LCD. Also, the battery is dead and can't be charged. (Not to mention the missing stylus and lots of scratches on the case... all for a "like new" phone... but I digress.)
I was able to borrow a battery from a coworker with the same phone, and it does power on. The screen is all white with multicolored splotched around the cracks in the LCD. I was also able to hook it up via USB and browse it through Activesync, so I'm guessing the phone is running.
Is there any other way I can test that it's going to work before I invest in a new LCD/digitizer? Another coworker mentioned there might be an emulator I could run on my PC to control the device and place calls with it, does such a thing exist?
Finally, does anyone have experience with a particular ebay sell of LCDs that they could recommend? I've seen a bunch listed in the $50-$60 range, including shipping. Does anyone have any suggestions on a source for replacement LCDs other than ebay?
Thanks,
-Brett.

your not sol yet.
Well to answer your questions in order;
Yes there is something that will let you control and make calls useing your computer, its called SOTI Pocket Controller, look for it.
I bought a mda with a broken lcd on purpose cause after looking into it i found that replacing the lcd isn't so hard. i bought my lcd from ebay and my phone is running great ever since the repair. your going to need to get the service manual and a new lcd ofc, also a torx #5 (type of screw driver) and a #0 phillips head.
good luck with your phone
-capn

capncucci said:
Well to answer your questions in order;
Yes there is something that will let you control and make calls useing your computer, its called SOTI Pocket Controller, look for it.
I bought a mda with a broken lcd on purpose cause after looking into it i found that replacing the lcd isn't so hard. i bought my lcd from ebay and my phone is running great ever since the repair. your going to need to get the service manual and a new lcd ofc, also a torx #5 (type of screw driver) and a #0 phillips head.
good luck with your phone
-capn
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I'll look for a copy of the SOTI Pocket Controller, that's exactly what I was looking for.
I've already downloaded the service manual, I've got the screwdriver, I can pick up a torx.... but what did you mean when you said "and a new lcd ofc"? Is that "a new lcd of course"?
Also, do you remember who you bought the LCD from since you seemed to have a good experience?
Thanks!
-Brett.

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Glad I could help, yea I meant of course, sorry lol. im 1337.
i cant remeber but it was some random company that sold refurbished lcd's, just pick one that has a good rating and a decent price and hope for the best, sorry its all the advice i can give=/.
good luck!
-capn

Hi pal, try this software, this software allows you to control your phone from pc with mouse and many other things. It is called my mobiler and i use it very often.
1) Connect your phone through AS
2) Let my mobiler install cabinet on your phone
3) Run it an click on the system tray where is the symbol of the phone and cable and select open mobiler, this will show you your screen.

zzoinks said:
I bought a Cingular 8125 from a seller on another forum and it arrived with a broken LCD. Also, the battery is dead and can't be charged. (Not to mention the missing stylus and lots of scratches on the case... all for a "like new" phone... but I digress.)
I was able to borrow a battery from a coworker with the same phone, and it does power on. The screen is all white with multicolored splotched around the cracks in the LCD. I was also able to hook it up via USB and browse it through Activesync, so I'm guessing the phone is running.
Is there any other way I can test that it's going to work before I invest in a new LCD/digitizer? Another coworker mentioned there might be an emulator I could run on my PC to control the device and place calls with it, does such a thing exist?
Finally, does anyone have experience with a particular ebay sell of LCDs that they could recommend? I've seen a bunch listed in the $50-$60 range, including shipping. Does anyone have any suggestions on a source for replacement LCDs other than ebay?
Thanks,
-Brett.
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Hey Brett, I've got some info you need to look into when buying a replacement lcd, there are two types that i know of, their distinct differences are the fact that one has a black flex cable, and the other has a gold one(One is the first generation lcd, and the other is the second generation). I made the mistake of not opening my 8125 after i bought it the same way you bought yours, with a broken screen... I bought an lcd with a gold ribbon cable(back when they were $90+) and it <i>worked</i> with my 8125 except the colors were mixed a.k.a. not as they should be. I bought another lcd(yes, another $90+ since the seller didn't offer a return policy) which <u>matched</u> the color of the old cracked lcd that came in my 8125(the ribbon/flex cable was black). And all was perfect!
So if you haven't yet, take your 8125 apart and make sure you know what lcd it has. Ebay listing for these lcds are pretty definitive on whether they use an lcd with a black or gold ribbon cable. Good luck!

Thanks for the tip! I was checking them out on ebay and I did notice that some sellers made it clear there was a difference.
I bought a T5 torx driver this weekend and managed to get the back of the phone off, exposing the main board.... but didn't get any further than that. I'll have to check the color of the ribbon before I order.
Do you remember if yours was a refub LCD or not? I've seen all but one seller (who was located in Hong Kong) are selling refub units. I'd prefer a new one, but I also don't want to wait 2 weeks to get something form Hong Kong. Any problems with a refurb?
Thanks,
-Brett.

I'd like to know myself the difference between a refurb unit and a new unit. Maybe they replace the digitizer of faulty lcds and then resell the "fixed" units, or maybe there is some other thing about the lcds that make them impossible to sell as new~
Btw my lcd (as it was claimed by the seller) was new. I got it in the mail from Hong Kong inside of bubble wrap and Hong Kong Newspaper post. I looked at the lcd and it sure <i>looked</i> brand new, new enough to immediately apply a screen protector before i installed it into my pda(so that the screen protector covers ALL of the screen and doesn't miss the corners or the sides, it's the best way to apply a screensaver if you ask me).

Bolik said:
Hi pal, try this software, this software allows you to control your phone from pc with mouse and many other things. It is called my mobiler and i use it very often.
1) Connect your phone through AS
2) Let my mobiler install cabinet on your phone
3) Run it an click on the system tray where is the symbol of the phone and cable and select open mobiler, this will show you your screen.
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how do I align the screen with this program?

boi said:
how do I align the screen with this program?
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Download and try this :-

zabardast_1 said:
Download and try this :-
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Thank you very much!!!
I will try this as soon as I get home.
Boi

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Download and try this :-
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Thanks for the download

ewww...vista.
i dont even think microsoft really supports vista the way you would like for using your MDA. Best way to do anything to your phone (and what most of these roms seem to require) is Win XP.
For some reason microsoft wanted to change the way things were handled and I for one am not really happy with it.

Figured this might be the best place as ever. Before I part my Wizard and pay some large fee for a 8525.
Has anyone seen problems with the screen flickering and going mostly white/gray (with lines).
I had dropped my phone a few weeks back - I bought a replacement screen on Ebay and swapped it out - worked great for two weeks. All of a sudden, on Saturday night it went from working to just flickering. Could the new LCD's cable have gone bad? Anyone seen this?

KyleK29 said:
Figured this might be the best place as ever. Before I part my Wizard and pay some large fee for a 8525.
Has anyone seen problems with the screen flickering and going mostly white/gray (with lines).
I had dropped my phone a few weeks back - I bought a replacement screen on Ebay and swapped it out - worked great for two weeks. All of a sudden, on Saturday night it went from working to just flickering. Could the new LCD's cable have gone bad? Anyone seen this?
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I had problems the first time I replaced my screen where I turned it on and it was completely white. Turns out I didn't have the connector properly seated. I took everything apart and made sure to fully seat the cable into the connector close the little clamp securely. After that it worked fine.
It might be worthwhile to take the phone apart again and make sure the ribbon cable connector hasn't come unseated.
Good luck!
-Brett.

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I had problems the first time I replaced my screen where I turned it on and it was completely white. Turns out I didn't have the connector properly seated. I took everything apart and made sure to fully seat the cable into the connector close the little clamp securely. After that it worked fine.
It might be worthwhile to take the phone apart again and make sure the ribbon cable connector hasn't come unseated.
Good luck!
-Brett.
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Yeah, I have the phone in pieces right now. I've tried blowing out the connector/etc. Going to try to clean it.
Btw, sorry about the thread hijack. I meant to post this in another thread for Wizard repairs, somehow got sidetracked and dropped it here.

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Download and try this :-
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Thank you for your help. I have now replaced the LCD from China but the expansion slot would not recognise any card. Did I do something wrong? Thanks in advance.

align screen problem

hello everyone
i stupidly cleaned my screen with glass liquid and next day my xda IIi hard-reseted alone and now just can`t pass align screen
already tried soft and hard reset and changed rom no success
any ideas?
sorry bad english
helder ribeiro

hi
90% your touchsreen was broken. Replace with a new touchsreen will solve this problem !

hi
where can i buy a new and not so expensive lcd?
ebay?do u have any link where i can see prices?
thanks for the answer

helderribeiro said:
where can i buy a new and not so expensive lcd?
ebay?do u have any link where i can see prices?
thanks for the answer
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dont buy the whole lcd buy the upper glass which gives the touch interface. it is called as TOUCH. and u can buy from ebay approx 8 to 10$. and it also requires high soldring skill to replace it. i advice u to search and watch video on youtube.com.

Broken glass on X10

I dropped my phone and ran over with car wheel. .. Here's how it seems now
Guarantee does not apply under these conditions .. Can it be replaced ? .. In general is there a spare part for this in the SE production line for replacement parts...
Sorry for my bad English (google translate )

does the phone still work? does it turn on?

I' m sorry to hear that ! and I think it can be repaired at the SE's factory
Good luck to you !

it can be replaced, go to ebay.com and check for Xperia X10 "Digitizer"
also you can replace the housing of the entire phone and also the buttons.
all the pieces are there, you just need the knowledge to put it all and in some cases a good glue

Ahh i just did that to my phone as well. The touch still works ect just need the new cover. I looked around and its gonna be about $100 at the most to fix it

im willing to buy the broken phones if it still works and they are x10i's send me a pm if you want to sell it.

Yes..phone works whithout any problems.. Display isn't broken..

not good still under warranty

try to make a story what fits the conditions of you guarantee
I tried it once with my W580i when I completely broke its display and guess what... they made it for me
good luck

the X10 screen seems very durable, mine is little broken also, and thanks to the thin cover that is has on top, you can't feel the broken screen, just see it.
Also the touch screen is working fully functionally like nothing has happened

The only thing i like it about SE is the high Quality Built mobiles ... my friend bought an i phone 3GS when it was new and after a week he dropped it and the screen broke into pieces and was unusable .. i dropped my x10 on asphalt in the street many times and i see only little scratches ... anyway i'm sorry for your x10 and better to check with warranty

chrismorgann said:
Ahh i just did that to my phone as well. The touch still works ect just need the new cover. I looked around and its gonna be about $100 at the most to fix it
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i sent you a pm but not sure if you got it website is acting funny and it doesnt say i sent the message. anyway im willing to offer you $100 dont care if the screen is broken or if the case is broken as long as the inside as still good and not broken. let me know

I too had my front screen & digitizer completely shattered when a bus ran over it !!
Got it fixed at a SE Service center but it took two months for them to procure the parts ( LCD & Digitizer) & fix it at the cost of ~ 213 $

farhan032 said:
Got it fixed at a SE Service center but it took two months for them to procure the parts ( LCD & Digitizer) & fix it at the cost of ~ 213 $
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Mmm when i rang up optus they just went on and on about charges. 1st charge is sending it away 2nd charge is like $50 for sony to look at it then 3rd charge is how ever much it costs fix and it could take up to 6 weeks. wasnt too pleased. So i guess my option now is ebay to get a new screen.

digitizer replacement

hi guys,i would like some advice on replace my digitizer,as i never done one im am not sure about how to do it correctly,so,if anyone as idea on how to remove the digitizer,what tools we need,if there is any soldering work to do or anything else please reply,any information related to this will be helpfull!
Many thanks

take a look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1291974
you will open it without problems JUST you need to be gentle and do everything slow..
Replacing the digitizer is quite easy there is only one connector you need to connect..

thanks fsnelis,that's a big help allready !

You know what is the type and cost of a new digitizer?

ziuzitsu said:
You know what is the type and cost of a new digitizer?
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Just make a little research on ebay or google and you will get an idea of the prices.
Where you live for example can be a factor on the price...

Hi guys!
I just replaced my broken digitizer with one I bought on ebay, and the new one works fine.
However, the earpiece speaker does not work. Help!
Do any of you have any tips for me?
PS: I already threw away the old one when because the touchscreen seemed to work fine, so I can't just take the speaker from that.

I just bought a new digitizer off of taobao. It cost me 120 RMB ($19) and comes with a replacement front shell. When it arrives I'll install it. Good luck with your speaker, when I get mine in I'll look at the circuitry to see if I can find anything to help you.
EDIT: Replaced mine, it was pretty easy. On your speaker, did you reconnect the speaker wire correctly? Or did the wire get damaged? That's the only thing I could see that could go wrong with it.

andlea said:
Hi guys!
I just replaced my broken digitizer with one I bought on ebay, and the new one works fine.
However, the earpiece speaker does not work. Help!
Do any of you have any tips for me?
PS: I already threw away the old one when because the touchscreen seemed to work fine, so I can't just take the speaker from that.
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I have the same problem. The speaker in the new digitizer is bigger than the old one.
An image showing the differences
Does anybody know where to get a fitting digitizer/speaker?
Seems like there are no right ones on ebay...
Update:
I've contacted the seller. I will send him the part number of my digitizer (printed on the cable) and he will try to get the right one for me.
The ebay seller is 'easyworldwidetrading'. I will update this post for the folks who need this kind of digitizer.
Update 2:
My digitizer is a "TM1564" model which will be send to me now.

krothold said:
I have the same problem. The speaker in the new digitizer is bigger than the old one.
An image showing the differences
Does anybody know where to get a fitting digitizer/speaker?
Seems like there are no right ones on ebay...
Update:
I've contacted the seller. I will send him the part number of my digitizer (printed on the cable) and he will try to get the right one for me.
The ebay seller is 'easyworldwidetrading'. I will update this post for the folks who need this kind of digitizer.
Update 2:
My digitizer is a "TM1564" model which will be send to me now.
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hi, you got a link to buy?

Not really. Just had some email conversation with them/him.
The shop is called 'easyworldwidetrading' on ebay:
http://myworld.ebay.com.hk/easyworldwidetrading?ssPageName=ADME:L:OCE:1181
Haven't got the new digitizer yet. He wrote "It is OK, I will check about it and reship the TM1564 model touch screen to you, is it OK??". I am expecting to get it within the next two weeks. I will keep you updated if you want or you can write him on as I did. Maybe he will start selling the TM1564 on ebay too.

Old speaker with wrong digitizer
Hell,
i wonted to ask is it possible to use old small speaker in new digitizer replacing big speaker?
Is there any other differenc in digitizers other then speaker size?
If i take big speaker out and glue or attach small speaker in the place, can i work like that?
Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

I had a look at the two digitizers and yes, I think that it is possible. If I can help you with images or anything else just send a msg to me.

krothold said:
I had a look at the two digitizers and yes, I think that it is possible. If I can help you with images or anything else just send a msg to me.
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Ok, thanks for info, i will try it and report what happens.

Hello, i have tried and it works, so you can use your old speaker instead big speaker in digitizer. I just replaced big speaker with my old small speaker and it worked. You have to center it in digitizer and put something on top of the speaker i used double layer tape otherwise speaker is too much in and it doesn't make connection.

On top? You mean towards the ear?

krothold said:
On top? You mean towards the ear?
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Yes .

ademirado said:
Hell,
i wonted to ask is it possible to use old small speaker in new digitizer replacing big speaker?
Is there any other differenc in digitizers other then speaker size?
If i take big speaker out and glue or attach small speaker in the place, can i work like that?
Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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You know, you don't have to replace the speaker and case. You can remove the digitizer from the case and put it in your old case with the smaller speaker.

typci said:
You know, you don't have to replace the speaker and case. You can remove the digitizer from the case and put it in your old case with the smaller speaker.
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OK, i didn't know that, thanks, i threw my old case away so for now it's good like this.

krothold said:
Not really. Just had some email conversation with them/him.
The shop is called 'easyworldwidetrading' on ebay:
http://myworld.ebay.com.hk/easyworldwidetrading?ssPageName=ADME:L:OCE:1181
Haven't got the new digitizer yet. He wrote "It is OK, I will check about it and reship the TM1564 model touch screen to you, is it OK??". I am expecting to get it within the next two weeks. I will keep you updated if you want or you can write him on as I did. Maybe he will start selling the TM1564 on ebay too.
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He could not get it. But i've found another ebay seller which offers the TM1564 touch screen.
I've just ordered it. Will keep you updated if it works.
Search for "Digitizer Touch Screen For HUAWEI Ideos X5 U8800 Front Frame Cover small speaker" on eBay.

I changed the digitizer yesterday, it was very hard!!