I currently have my TyTN set to "turn off device if not used for 5 minutes"
does this effect incoming messages from agile or IM+?
i.e. if i go to powersave mode and they send me a message, will it not be recieved? does this differ from one program to the other...
thanks for any help ya can give.
You aren't powering off the device, you're putting it into sleep mode. If it gets a message, you're device will either power back up, or vibrate.
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Hi guys,
i received my 2nd hand T-Mobile MDAII 2 days ago. When i powered it on, i saw that the WM2005 rom came from this site. Since i have a small "issue" with my phone i thought i would ask here (since google does not know the answer)
I love my new device, that's for sure. There's only 1 slight problem. To save some battery life, i turn on the setting to go in standby mode after 1 minute of not touching it. But when the phone goes in standby, i completly miss all incoming phone calls and text messages.
I tested this last night :
I send an text message to a friend of mine, asking him to send one back after 10 minutes. My phone goed into standby, and i wait. Half an hour later, no vibration (i hate ringtones) from an incoming message or call. When i pull my phone out of standby it suddenly vibrates because i have an incoming text message.
Is there a way that i can turn my phone into standby mode, but still receive incoming phonecalls and messages ? I now keep it on all the time, just letting the backlight go off but this consumes to much power i'm affraid.
I noticed that the 8525 does not wake for new email - just get audible alert. Any way to have it behave like this for other notifications such as new txt msg or incoming call? My device spends the majority of the day in my pocket.
After some further research I found some apps for Palm that appear to do this and an app for PPC called Pocket Guard that comes close. What I really want is to make it so that my device will not wake unless I press the power button. I just want audible or vibration alerts when the device is off. Any input is greatly appreciated.
I'm confused. Anyway, try Setting->S & Notification -> New email messages
I like the way it behaves with new email - I just get an audible alert and the device does not turn on. I want to setup all other notifications to behave this way including incoming calls. I wouldn't mind pressing the power button before answering a call. There are no notification settings to prevent wake.
All other PDAs I have used turned on when receiving new email. This leads me to believe that there might be a reg hack or something to disable wake with other notifications as well.
Me too. I'm bothered by my pda2k waking up when it's in my pocket (e.g. going in/out of bluetooth car kit range, receiving call, receiving sms). The screen can come on, but the screen and easy-to-bump buttons should remain locked until one of the firm buttons is pushed.
Do the designers actually use these devices?!
The program I mentioned above is actually called ScreenGuard (http://www.pocketmax.net/) and will probably do what you want. It will allow the screen to come on but all buttons and screen are locked. You have to enter a combination of 2 programmable keys to unlock. WM5 beta is available in the support forum. I believe that are still working Hermes support but you can check it out. It didn't fully lock everything when I tried it.
I am not interested in any locking security. Just wanting to keep it from waking when I don't want it to. You also cannot use the power button for ScreenGuard.
Hi all,
I've searched high and low for a solution to this and am desperate to have a resolution. My problem is when a text message comes in my phone wakes up and doesn't go back to sleep/standby. I have disabled all notifications when an SMS arrives, but still the phone ignores this and wakes up the screen and doesn't disable it again (quickly draining the battery).
Does anyone have a solution for this? A registry tweak/software package?
Thanks
Why don't you set it up so that when the phone is idle, it turns itself off? THen if you get a text, the phone wakes, but will go back to sleep assuming it is idle.
I do
It already has that setting -- 60 seconds = power off, it seems to not work after an SMS has come in.
I also have the phone in my pocket so it's never "idle" for 60 seconds because it generally touches the screen, etc in the pocket.... but even when on the table the backlight stays on after SMS...
VERY FRUSTRATING
No idea?
It would be enough if the SMS-Income sounds, but no wake!
Once i tried automatic screenlock after wakeup, but this is annoying too.
I'd like to know a trick how to disable wakeup after SMS.
Maybe s2u2 could solve this for you.
So I've got the problem where when my phone is off/standby I don't get a notification or alert until I turn the phone on at which point it plays the standard alert and vibrate (this is of course useless).
Playing around and I noticed that this problem goes away when I uncheck the setting 'Turn device off after X mins'.
Now, at first I assume that there were 3 modes on the HD (and presumably on all htc phones) and they are: Power off, standby, on. Those states seem self explanitory. Give that assumption, I always thought that there was just a problem with the sms program doing a notification.
With this new solution, ie, disabling auto turn off, all my text messages come through with a notification within 6 seconds of sending it on the other end. But I played around with it some more. Some of you may know of a program called psshutxp. This program can do three things: display off, turn off, and reset. Now I never used this turn off feature before because I assumed it just turned the phone off. I activated this function with the auto turn off setting disabled (the phone doesn't auto turn off) and end up not receiving messages (exactly like the original problem).
What I've concluded then is that the device actually has 4 states: Power off, standby, display off, on. Now if you read the whole thing you may have noticed that I'm implying the solution is to disable auto off and thus leave the device in what would appear to be 'display off' mode. It works, certainly, but I'm starting to think that battery life is going to suffer immensely. (I'm going to test this tonight)
It seems we're back to square one, but wth a little, and albiet minor conclusion: SMS messages should wake the device but leave the screen off. There have been some intermediate solutions that say to change the 'disable device wake on sms' registry from 1 to 0 or use HD tweak to achieve a similar effect then combine this change with a good screen locker.
My question then is, is it possible to wake the device but leave the screen off via registry or via resident program?
Investigating the resident program option some more, is it possible to run compact framework programs while the device is in standby?
Finally, I know that the Touch Diamond 2 had a recent hotfix for this exact issue. Considering the similarities between the two devices, is it possible to port a solution? I'm going to see if I can try it out myself (but I'm not as experienced at platform modifications as I am in software development). I also noticed that a lot of Diamond 2 users still report the problem wasn't solved with that hotfix.
check out the HD Tweak app, i think it has a "wake on SMS" tweak you can apply to the phone. would also help if you mention if you're using a Stock or custom ROM. in my case, i'm using a custom ROM with SMS Chat and i'm gettting SMS notifications with my device in stand-by mode. fyi, i'm not using the HD Tweak app...
Yeah, the Wake on SMS on HD tweak as mentioned in my post basically modifies the registry for device wake on SMS.
However, this is not, and should not be normal behaviour as waking the device turns the screen on as well. (unless your device is different in that it doesn't turn on the screen at the same time as waking up from a SMS, if this is the case, then... that's a pretty significant finding.)
just tested my device... screen is off (e.g., hit the power button to turn it off) sent myself a txt via my email account, heard the SMS notification and screen is still off. i'm using a custom ROM miri v26.2.
I can achieve the same effect by disabling auto turn off. As in: my device remains off and the SMS notification is properly sounded. (everything works as it should)
However, I worry that the device isn't actually in standby and rather just has the display off (which means that background apps are still running). A possible concequence could be that it would drain my batt pretty fast ( this is my cheif concern).
1024 Leo, USA T-Mobile version.
It only happens with incoming email, SMS and calls are fine.
When I try to reproduce the problem, I simply have to wait for the phone to check for new mail. The the phone notifies me about new email. If I try to turn the screen on, it won't. The hard button lights up, indicating the phone is on but I can't interact with the screen. Resetting the phone via the red button is the only remedy.
If I act real fast when new mail comes, sometimes I'm able to start sliding to unlock but it still crashes. If I'm really fast I'm able to even get to the mail screen but it still crashes.
But the crash does not occur if I'm already using the phone when new email comes in. If I want to reproduce it, I have to leave the phone "alone", with the screen off. If the screen is on when the new mail comes in, the crash does not occur.
The problem started occurring with completely stock phone, the very first day, without making changes. As I cab tweaked the phone, (no ROM) the problem persists, it happens.
Because of this problem, when I wake up in the morning, I can't use my phone because the screen doesn't turn on and I have to restart the phone so I can use it. My mail send/receive interval is set for 4 hours so while I sleep the phone receives new email at least once.
I investigated similar problems for TP2 and Touch HD but it does not help.
I backed up everything on my phone so I'm ready to make changes if you have any advice. I checked for: changing the email ring tone, wake up on new email setting. They have no effect on this problem.
After this happens, I tried calling my phone. It will not ring, but the hard buttons light up but are unresponsive, I can't neither pick up nor reject the incoming call. I sent an SMS to the phone in this state, it didn't do anything.
Do you have knowledge that can help me? Is anyone willing to try to reproduce the problem on their phone?
All you would do is set any ring tone for incoming mail, leave the phone with the screen off and "wait" for new email to come in. Don't do anything for a minute and then check if the crash occurred.
Please help, I hate waking up to a crashed phone that I need to restart every time. Because of this problem, setting a wake up alarm is useless.
If you can't help with this, at least is there any way I can "force" the phone to restart without removing the battery cover?
Thank you.