So I've got the problem where when my phone is off/standby I don't get a notification or alert until I turn the phone on at which point it plays the standard alert and vibrate (this is of course useless).
Playing around and I noticed that this problem goes away when I uncheck the setting 'Turn device off after X mins'.
Now, at first I assume that there were 3 modes on the HD (and presumably on all htc phones) and they are: Power off, standby, on. Those states seem self explanitory. Give that assumption, I always thought that there was just a problem with the sms program doing a notification.
With this new solution, ie, disabling auto turn off, all my text messages come through with a notification within 6 seconds of sending it on the other end. But I played around with it some more. Some of you may know of a program called psshutxp. This program can do three things: display off, turn off, and reset. Now I never used this turn off feature before because I assumed it just turned the phone off. I activated this function with the auto turn off setting disabled (the phone doesn't auto turn off) and end up not receiving messages (exactly like the original problem).
What I've concluded then is that the device actually has 4 states: Power off, standby, display off, on. Now if you read the whole thing you may have noticed that I'm implying the solution is to disable auto off and thus leave the device in what would appear to be 'display off' mode. It works, certainly, but I'm starting to think that battery life is going to suffer immensely. (I'm going to test this tonight)
It seems we're back to square one, but wth a little, and albiet minor conclusion: SMS messages should wake the device but leave the screen off. There have been some intermediate solutions that say to change the 'disable device wake on sms' registry from 1 to 0 or use HD tweak to achieve a similar effect then combine this change with a good screen locker.
My question then is, is it possible to wake the device but leave the screen off via registry or via resident program?
Investigating the resident program option some more, is it possible to run compact framework programs while the device is in standby?
Finally, I know that the Touch Diamond 2 had a recent hotfix for this exact issue. Considering the similarities between the two devices, is it possible to port a solution? I'm going to see if I can try it out myself (but I'm not as experienced at platform modifications as I am in software development). I also noticed that a lot of Diamond 2 users still report the problem wasn't solved with that hotfix.
check out the HD Tweak app, i think it has a "wake on SMS" tweak you can apply to the phone. would also help if you mention if you're using a Stock or custom ROM. in my case, i'm using a custom ROM with SMS Chat and i'm gettting SMS notifications with my device in stand-by mode. fyi, i'm not using the HD Tweak app...
Yeah, the Wake on SMS on HD tweak as mentioned in my post basically modifies the registry for device wake on SMS.
However, this is not, and should not be normal behaviour as waking the device turns the screen on as well. (unless your device is different in that it doesn't turn on the screen at the same time as waking up from a SMS, if this is the case, then... that's a pretty significant finding.)
just tested my device... screen is off (e.g., hit the power button to turn it off) sent myself a txt via my email account, heard the SMS notification and screen is still off. i'm using a custom ROM miri v26.2.
I can achieve the same effect by disabling auto turn off. As in: my device remains off and the SMS notification is properly sounded. (everything works as it should)
However, I worry that the device isn't actually in standby and rather just has the display off (which means that background apps are still running). A possible concequence could be that it would drain my batt pretty fast ( this is my cheif concern).
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As discussed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41403
the new push email feature coming with the AKU2 update has what I believe to be a fatal flaw in that it does not seem to be able to wake the device up and notify the user when a new email arrives. So long as the device is not in standby mode, the notifications work fine but when it goes to sleep or the top power button is pressed, you lose the email notifications. My workaround is to turn off the automatic device off feature in the power settings and use AEButtons Plus to turn off the screen (the entire screen, not just the backlight) when I am not using the device. This is certainly not a perfect solution as there are times when I forget to turn the screen off or when a calendar or task notification turns the screen back on when I am not around the device (in this case, the backlight will time out but the screen will stay on until I turn it off).
All that is long-winded background for a request to the programmer types around for an application to solve this dilemna. I think the application would be quite simple and would simply provide for an automatic screen off feature after a certain period of inactivity. Ideally, this application might also be able to remap the power off button to turn the screen off as well, but this might have other negative consequences. Of course an application that would wake the devide up on receipt of a pushed email would be even better but I am giving MS the benefit of the doubt that such a feature might be difficult if not impossible to pull off at this time. There may be such an application out there right now, but if there is, I have not come across it.
I am sure there are few people that would be willing to pay for an application of this nature. Anyone?
Cingular 8125
I have 3 issues...
1. The backlight seems to shut itself off every once in a while. I'll try to wake the phone from sleep mode only to notice there is no light, so I have to move the phone near a light source to see the dimmed screen and work my way to the backlight setting and increase it back to normal.
This happened once while I was driving
Is there a cure for this problem?
Also, I noticed spb pocket plus's backlight slider on my today screen does not work, nor do the shortcut commands it has for backlight up/down/loop etc.
2. When I was testing a new ringtone, I called my phone from another phone. I noticed it does not receive the call on the first ring. It receives it on the 2nd ring. I can hang up during or right after the first ring and not have it come up on my phone. Is this normal?
3. Alarm bug. This %$#@ lead me to hard-reset my phone 3 times already. When my phone is in sleep mode and an alarm triggers, sometimes the phone won't wake, but keeps playing the alarm. I wake the phone manually only to notice there is no alarm notification, but a flashing orange light and constant alarm sound and vibration. A soft-reset seemed to make the problem worse. Finally, I found a program called memMaid which lets me delete notifications and duplicate notifications etc. Is this the best method to cure this problem?
Thanks in advance.
With the backlight, do you have it on charge at the time of it messing up?
i've had this issue but only when the phone was on charge.
if i unplugged the phone, backlight came back and then i simply plugged it back in
other than that, no cure that i've found. what software version are you using?
for the alarm, not seen that, i have noticed that recently i've had the alarm apparently going off (but it hasnt!) and then almost 2 hours later, i have a msg saying "alarm" with the dismiss button and the time of when it was supposed to go off. very odd. luckily i have a nokia 6230i that i use as my alarm clock.
and for the calls... i have the same problem but only when i copy over my SMS back onto the device. after hard reset its fine, but as soon as my msgs go back, i think the phone mem gets slower. (i have 1600 sms now on the phone with about 300 contacts with pictures)
I have the same issue with sms where the phone will light up, 5 seconds after it recieves the sms... so i'm guessing thats the same as the phone side, it lights up on my end, 3-5 secs later it rings (which is eqiv to one ring on their side so it hangs up after 2 more rings).
very strange issues though, i hope softwre updates fix it because it is annoying me now!
also have an issue with my camera where if you dont X out of it, then dont expect it to load again unless you reset the phone. it just shows the "egg timer" and thats it. useless camera software but great pda/phone. again luckily i have a camera always with me anyway.
Only thing i have experience with this is for 1).
I still get that backlight problem.
It started happening when i installed PocketZenPhone beta.
After every soft reset, if i let the phone go into standby or the let the backlight time out, the backlight setting will go all the way to the lowest.
I don't know how to fix this bug, only thing i've done to sort with it is have a Today Screen launcher set up so that i have an icon that leads directly to the backlight setting, so whenever it dims on me, i'm 2 thumb pushes away.
Actually, this is the first time i saw this, when i installed zen on mine too!
It was then i realised that if you unplugged the power supply then replug it in, it fixed it
in the end, i got fed up of zen's stability or the lack off so i removed it, hard reset etc
it still happens but very rarely, and when it does, its just because i've turned it off and on while it was on the power supply
i have the same freaking problem with backlight. not sure what the deal is but very very annoying. is there a fix to this problem??
i have the same freaking problem with backlight. not sure what the deal is but very very annoying. is there a fix to this problem??
Mine had the occasional "backlight set to off" (i.e. pushing the 5-way would NOT turn it back on - had to use Control Panel applet) problem too. I never used Pocket Zen Phone on this phone (have on others in the past) but did use both SPB pocket plus and Phone Alarm.
I think the problem is somehow related to apps that try to control the backlight. As you've noted, SPB's backlight applets don't do anything, I think that PZP and Phone Alarm, as part of their attempts to control the backlight in their profiles mess it up somehow.
What i did was limit my profiles in PA to only two, and make sure both of them were set exactly the same way as far as controlling the backlight:
o Both profiles have backlight set to 50% all the time
o Both profiles set to power off the backlight at 3 minutes on both AC and battery
o Both profiles set to suspend the device at 2 mins on battery (so never getting to the "backlight only power-off" setting above).
o Having the backlight go dark on AC is new for me, but it keeps it consistent with the battery setting, but it's no biggie and if it ain't broke...plus if I touch any button it comes back on
I also removed SPB pocket plus and found some freebie utilities that do what I wanted from SPB.
So I'm not positive it's related, but doing these three things and i haven't had the light go dark since. Every once in a while after a reboot the light does go dark, but hitting any button or the 5-way brings it back so it's not the same "setting has been set to no backlight at all" problem I was having, and only seems to occur soon after a reboot, and then not again.
-JMS
i fixed my problem by flashing rom over with 2.17 US version.
My phone is always waking up for odd reasons (AVRCP commands, switching in and out of roaming, etc...), and I can't seem to get the darned thing to stay OFF.
Music A2DP streaming is the biggest deal to me, because not only will the device wake up when I press a remote command (on my AVRCP headset), it will also keep the device backlight on indefinitely. This is clearly shortening my battery.
I tried Slide2Unlock, and have it set to shut off the display if no activity for 5 sec., but the problem is that Slide2Unlock appears to not notice when it is woken up, and just sits there without turning the screen back off again! (a simple screen press brings Slide2U back to life, and then it will toggle the screen... but this defeats the purpose!)
There must be SOMETHING I'm missing here... doesn't anyone else have this problem???
I have 2 things for you. The first, is if you're using WM6 that's a known issue and unchecking the today timeout in start-->settings-->today-->items tab should solve most of your problems. The second is a little program that I found (not sure where at , but it might have been on here) called screen off. Install it and then set it to a hardware button and it will allow you to turn just your screen off whenever you don't need it on.
Maybe it depends on the player you're using? With Coreplayer, my phone's screen just flashes on and off quickly when it receives an AVRCP command.
Still doesn't explain the roaming thing though.
xeno1 said:
I have 2 things for you. The first, is if you're using WM6 that's a known issue and unchecking the today timeout in start-->settings-->today-->items tab should solve most of your problems. The second is a little program that I found (not sure where at , but it might have been on here) called screen off. Install it and then set it to a hardware button and it will allow you to turn just your screen off whenever you don't need it on.
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Yes, I'm using WM6 on a HTC Titan (Sprint Mogul).
I don't currently timeout to the today screen, but I don't see how that would cause my problem really- I've heard people mention that before, so can anyone explain what difference that would make?
I already have a shortcut to screen toggle (wrote my own MortScript to do it). That's not a problem anyway since every media player can assign a button to toggle the screen- The problem is that it keeps turning the screen back on when a button is pressed no matter how many times I toggle!!
Plastriq, I've heard that coreplayer does that... that's how they deal with this problem. They're the only ones that have addressed it as far as I know, and I'm not about to pay for their app when I already have TCPMP and WMP for free.
I just can't believe that there haven't been more practical ways around this yet!
My practice is to turn off my HD after use (I use 3rd party app to turn off the machine instead of pressing the power button), and put it back to the pocket. Recently, I found that my HD have do something when it is off, such as,
- make a phone call
- Go the the TF3D Photo tab and viewing a photo
- Showing the Power setting page (I set it to the LSK)
I'm 100% sure that the machine is off, so I wonder if my machine got a problem?
are you REALLY 100% sure it is OFF and not only in standby (aka screen off)? there is a old version of a 3rd party app that when you tap the poweroff icon goes standby and NOT poweroff. you should disable the 3rd party app and shut down your device using the default power button.
instead if you like having it only in standby you should keep in mind that standby does NOT by any means autolocks the screen. I'll try to explain:
you put the machine in standby and put it back in the pocket. you receive, dunno, a ring or a sms or something else. automatically the screen turns itself on, activating the touchscreen, and then all hell breaks loose
there are some solutions to this: a long press of the end key enables the default lock feature of the device. then you can turn off the screen safely (or almost safely)
also you might want to install s2u2 and set it to autolock on screen off. you turn off the screen (either with your app or the power button) and when resuming you have a neat "slide to unlock" screen (iphone-like). This is the solution i suggest more.
I am quite sure i talked too much but i hope i've been useful anyway
Please bear with me as this may be a dumb newbie question. I searched every post on the Imagio section here and at PPC and was unable to find an answer.
Got the Imagio for my wife and she's loving it (we had Storms previously- bad, bad mojo). She uses Groovefish to stream music and the stock dimmer setting will shut down the player after the time limit is reached. No problem, right? Changed the setting to stop this (never auto shut down on battery power).
Now, the screen will dim somewhat when left idle, but never shuts down all the way. It's dim but still active. She's been having to change the setting every time in order to not kill the battery.
Should the screen power down all the way while leaving the device active (like hitting the "shut off screen option" after holding the end button)? If not, is there a way to do this?
Thanks for any insight you may be able to provide. I've done nothing but Blackberries for years and this is my first real foray into WinMo.
Try to check the power settings. Go to the Settings Tab and push All settings at the bottom. From there go to System > Power > then click the Advanced tab. That should have settings to turn off the screen after 1 min or 30 seconds.
Thanks for the quick reply. I probably should have been a bit more clear.
It is in that menu that I have been manipulating the settings. There are two options for battery power. There is one to "turn off backlight" after x amount of time, the other is to "turn off device". With backlight set to 30 (or whatever) and device disabled, the screen never completely goes off.
It functions properly with "turn device off" enabled, but interrupts Groovefish when playing. This does not interfere with the native TF3D media player. While its not the end of the world if she ends up having to change that setting to use the program, it would be nice to be able to disable the screen with a partial shutdown (and extra battery drain when using that application).
Cheers!
Thats interesting, seems like its the program thats doing that. I have Opera, FM radio, email client, etc. running all day without it crashing. I have seen this before with Internet Explorer where i would leave it running connected to a website. then when i check back IE is gone and i have to start it again. By any chances is this a website or an installable app that you are using?
Groovefish is a streaming music client that is installed on the device
BTW, it is incredibly cool if you don't have it yet. Stream just about any song you want for free (legally).
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=88505
I use g-trigger to shake my phone to turn off the display works great! Just disable the shake to turn it back on.
I'll give it a shot and see if the application stays running. Many thanks!
Actually I think backlight off is happening when it "dims". You need the screen to go off, not just the backlight. Try using xdaShutdown to go into Lightsout mode and see if that works for you. The program can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544016
Skins in the same thread as well.