As some of you asked me for the translation, I did it. I just put it here, so that you can all give a try if you want.
http://shaka-team.ch/kaliF.ProD/FuN_KeY/vod_eng.rar
A week ago I spent some time to build a home made Video On Demand system, and I was wondering if it could interest some of you. If you are interested I can translate it into english and write a little how-to.
My system is very simple; the computer with the data (films, divx, dvd, ...) will become a web server listing all available media and offering live streaming and transcoding to smartphones/pdas and/or other computers.
Usage:
I am far too lazy to convert my film/dvd to ppc format and to send it to the SD card; that's why I decided to stream the film I want to see directly over the wifi. I also use this when I am on the go with a computer/ppc and nothing to do, I can easily watch my films through the internet.
Requirement for the server:
-Win 2k/XP Pro/2k3 with IIS setuped
Requirement for the client (PDA):
-TCPMP installed
-A tytn (didn't tried with other device in fact, but it should work on most PDA/smartphone)
Requirement for the client PC:
-Divx codec or filter setuped
Limitation:
-If you plan to stream over the internet, keep in mind that the size of your upload will condition the quality of the video.
-Only one client can stream at the same time (in fact more clients can connect to the server, but they will all see the same film)
-No possibility to go forward/backward, you have to watch the entire film straith forward (you can pause as long as your device is able to hold the running film in the buffer)
SETUP
-On XP Pro, Win 2k, Win 2k3 go to control panel > add/remove software > integrated components
-Select and install IIS (www service is enough)
-Extract my app in c:\inetpub\wwwroot\vod
-Edit default.asp and replace "c:\film_path" by the path of your films (you can add many folders by copy-pasting this line)
-Edit the play.asp and replace "server_name" by the name or the IP of the computer
-Edit film.asx and replace "external_dns" by your external ip or DNS if you have one. You can also setup here the local name/ip of the computer (the same as in play.asp) but in this case you will not be able to stream your films from outside your home network
-If you are using the external IP/DNS, do not forget to configure your router/firewall to allow and to route the traffic from the socket 8080 to the computer hosting the app
-If you don't have a static IP, you can freely get a DNS that link to your dynamique IP; visit www.dyndns.org for more informations
-go at http://computer_name/vod and try to watch a film (There may be an issue with firefox; I may work on it a bit later)
SETUP, PPC Side
-Setup TCPMP 0.71RC1 or 0.72RC1; most of the versions available should be fine
-Go to setup menu and remove all the tick in directdraw page if you are experiencing strange behaviour with the picture
-Go to file association and tic at least Windows meta files (ASX, ...)
-Start pocket IE and go to http://server_name/vod; you should be able to watch your films by now
NOTES
-The app is able to handle DVD files, as long as it can detect the VIDEO_TS folders
-The app is limited to one user at the same time; I did this because my upload do not allow me to stream more
-There is still a slight syncro problem on PPC with the picture and the sound; sadly, I think that it is a TCPMP issue
I'd be VERY interested in trialling this service, as I installed Orb and, like many other people with the latest version (see the Orb support forums), it just doesn't work AT ALL.
So, I'm looking for a good replacement (which works!) - I'm not afraid of getting my hands dirty and tweaking, bug testing, so yeah - send me the details ... Just a quick questing regarding the requirement for IIS; what technology does this use, .net/ASP? If so, I might have to install an ASP filter for Apache (as I don't use IIS), or I might have to set up that fileserver machine I've been preparing to build for a while
Yes, it uses a ASP. Most of the time I code in php, but as my file server was under win2k3 I decided to "learn" ASP. But my code is very simple; I am pretty sure that it can be translated in php in about 15 minutes, I don't believe in php on windows and asp on linux
Well mate, you know who to PM with the details & info
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Regarding ORB, I have it installed and it works flawlessly with my Tytn. I can select my home webcam to see how my puppy is doing while away from home. I can stream all my recorded TV shows and movies as well as watch live TV from anywhwere that has a decent Internet connection. I can also schedule TV shows to record, plus I have access to all my music and picture libraries. I love it - its simply the most amazing free software. I love that there is nothing required to install on my Tytn it just uses the web browser and WM10.
Too bad ORB does not support DVB-S cards.
BTW, I'm converting mpegs from my webcam into 3gp H.263 using ffmpeg, it
shrinks files about 1/100 (w/ 176x144 resolution 5fps only, which is ok for this
purpose).
Downloaded just now, but I'm going to bed (have you seen the time! 6am UK time ) so I'll give it a try either tomorrow or beginning of next week.
I know orb, and it is a service that work great. But in my case I dont like the use of external server that I cannot control; that's why I prefere doing it my way. My app is not here to replace orb, it is just a small alternative that do the thing a bit different.
Related
I run an IP based webcam on my network at home, with its own built in webserver. It creates a streaming image, and (I believe) uses ActiveX to display in a browser window.
I can call up the page using my MDA Pro, and Pocket IE, but the frame containing the image doesn't load - so I can configure the camera etc etc, but can't see any output.
It would be VERY helpful to be able to view... does anyone know of any way to get it working?
Using webcam.. try windows media encoder
Hi,
Try this, download windows media encoder (free from MS) , then choose to stream your webcam, it will ask you for port no etc (just choose 80 if you can) then you should be able to connect by typing mms://(your ip) (port) into windows media player on exec and voila.. or I have set my server as a media sever and view videos Ive made on my exec.. its pretty cool.. same principal (sort of)... 8)
Thanks for that, however I'm not running a webcam attached to a PC - its an IP Network Camera (has its own WiFi connection direct to my router) which has its own built-in webserver - so its totally standalone.
I *think* it should also deliver as a java page for devices which don't support the ActiveX control, but I can't seem to toggle that either.
I did hope to simply open the URL in Pocket IE or WM10 on the MDA Pro and simply have it work. It doesn't...
Just wanted to bump this thread up - I'm hoping to do this too to keep an eye on an increasingly mobile baby and save us from having to run back and forth to check how far she's gotten this time!
Perhaps you could provide us with some info on the camera..
What type is it?
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Hi,
Try this, download windows media encoder (free from MS) , then choose to stream your webcam, it will ask you for port no etc (just choose 80 if you can) then you should be able to connect by typing mms://(your ip) (port) into windows media player on exec and voila.. or I have set my server as a media sever and view videos Ive made on my exec.. its pretty cool.. same principal (sort of)... 8)
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Hi
it works but on PC and not on my JJ...
why?
:wink:
the camera stream is accessed via javascript and unfortuantly pocket IE does not support javascript. Other browsers do, like thunderhawk, but it does not seem to work correctly on jasjar/mda pro.
I use Axis IP Cameras, and Video servers, and a program on my XDA exec by axis to view my cameras, Its excellent been useing it for ages, i can even control the PTZ cameras i have
You can pick up Axis 2100 cameras on ebay for £80, I have used other types of IP cameras, But if you just wont it to work everytime never crash like a PC with a web cam attched, get some Axis stuf
I dont work for axis or anything but i have learned the hard way, Get axis stuf it works..........
John
My camera is a Gadspot (http://www.vcenter.net) - its the NC-1000, and its mounted at the bottom of my smallish garden in my huge dog kennel, so I can watch my doggies sleeping while I'm at work
I guess my other option is to use some camera software on a PC to capture the stream from the camera and re-distribute it - but I just wanted to be able to connect directly, and was hoping some software on the Universal would be able to display what is essentially quite a simple thing...
applecom said:
I use Axis IP Cameras, and Video servers, and a program on my XDA exec by axis to view my cameras, Its excellent been useing it for ages, i can even control the PTZ cameras i have
You can pick up Axis 2100 cameras on ebay for £80, I have used other types of IP cameras, But if you just wont it to work everytime never crash like a PC with a web cam attched, get some Axis stuf
I dont work for axis or anything but i have learned the hard way, Get axis stuf it works..........
John
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what is PTZ?
what is the name of the sw you use to connect to your camera that runs on PPC? whic resolution is truly useable?
thanks for your answer
Isn't there any possibility to create the actual picture as a *.jpg every one or more seconds and serve that as a Port 80-Server?
Most webcams do that and in the java(script)-code is the adress of that *.jpg!
You have to put the adress in the PIE and if you want to see a new picture you renew the page.
That works on most webcams i know.
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Isn't there any possibility to create the actual picture as a *.jpg every one or more seconds and serve that as a Port 80-Server?
Most webcams do that and in the java(script)-code is the adress of that *.jpg!
You have to put the adress in the PIE and if you want to see a new picture you renew the page.
That works on most webcams i know.
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Any ideas what the .jpg image would be called?
timetex said:
My camera is a Gadspot (http://www.vcenter.net) - its the NC-1000...
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I think you can do that with the Exec!
Technical Description of NC-1000
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>Motion Detection Supports Upload Images to FTP & EMAIL
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> Remote Record and Snapshot Control on Web
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-Compression: JPEG Image, MJPEG Video
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System Requirements
-Operation system: Windows 98/Me/NT/2000/XP, Linux, Mac
-Browser: Microsoft IE5.x, 6.x or above, or Netscape
Navigator 5.x or above
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You can get snapshots this way for shure!
I found it
Thanks couchpotato.
http://<camera.address>/Jpeg/CamImg.jpg
(which gives a single image)
http://<camera.address>/GetData.cgi
(which supposedly gives me a stream... but doesn't)
But at least the single image bit works for now. If I could find a way to get the page in IE to autorefresh (like Opera on the PC can be triggered to autoreload a page every x seconds / minutes) then this would certainly do the trick
I went thru half of it.. working ok..
web cam
Re: I went thru half of it.. working ok..
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What does this software do? FTP output of the pocket PC to an FTP site?
Doh...
Of course that's what it does.
It works OK
http://www.timetex.plus.com/webcamimage.jpg
(that's using the small cam on the front, rather than the main 1.3mp cam)
However, its not releasing from the stored shot and going back to the preview, so it needs manual intervention to keep sending the images up...
I'll see if I can tweak it
Have a look at www.axis.com, software and then ACE (axis camera explorer) download the PPC version ( works fine on Exec) there is a demo camera to look at.
I use it everyday here to view our cameras and video server, And i can control the PTZ pan / tilt /zoom as well
John
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asci said:
mcse17 said:
Hi,
Try this, download windows media encoder (free from MS) , then choose to stream your webcam, it will ask you for port no etc (just choose 80 if you can) then you should be able to connect by typing mms://(your ip) (port) into windows media player on exec and voila.. or I have set my server as a media sever and view videos Ive made on my exec.. its pretty cool.. same principal (sort of)... 8)
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it works but on PC and not on my JJ...
why?
:wink:
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WHEN YOU GOTO MEDIA PLAYER ON PPC THEN GOTO OPEN URL - THEN TYPE MMS://YOUR IP ... THIS SHOULD WORK NO PROBLEM.. IVE BEEN USING IT FOR A WHILE NOW..
I have port 1010 open on my machine, running Windows Media encoder and running a webcam stream from my machine.
My IP address is paired with www.dyndns.org, but I still can't get access to the stream from WME10 on my Exec using the following:
mms://www.URLname.com:1010
When I open the URL, I get:
"Cannot find the file. The file might have been removed, renamed or deleted. If the file is stored on a server or a removable storage card, the server might not be available."
Anyone got any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
Upload the links below to your TyTn/Hermes Click on the following links to get live streaming videos from arround the world.
If you discover more links please add it to the list:
mms://wmslive.stream.aol.com/live/abc/now
mms://msnbc.wmod.llnwd.net/a275/e1/video/100/vh.asf
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/wm/video/heads_bb.asx
http://rx-wes-sea106.rbn.com/farm/pull/tx-rbn-sea43:1259/wmtencoder/cspan/cspan/wmlive/cspan1v.asf
mms://a151.l1058843249.c10588.n.lm.akamaistream.net/D/151/10588/v0001/reflector:43249
mms://a832.l1814041123.c18140.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/832/18140/v0001/reflector:41143
http://www.rnntv.com/newschooser/pages/multi_column/rnnstream/rnnllvideo.asx
mms://vipmms.itele.fr/cpi_itele
mms://213.139.61.14/tv
Gold star for you, sir! Here's my additions, the CNN Pipeline feeds (the first of which is usually CNN International on a live stream):
http://dynamic.cnn.com/video/meta/live/stream.1.large.asx?nsfg=&CNNid=
http://dynamic.cnn.com/video/meta/live/stream.2.large.asx?nsfg=&CNNid=
http://dynamic.cnn.com/video/meta/live/stream.3.large.asx?nsfg=&CNNid=
http://dynamic.cnn.com/video/meta/live/stream.4.large.asx?nsfg=&CNNid=
At this point I'd just like to point out that I just tried to load these streams up on my device via my wifi connection, and WMP won't accept the first stream (just goes round and round 'connecting' and eventually times out, and TCPMP errors back and can't play any items in the playlist) - think this is because of the way that the player is assigned an authorisation access code which is appended to the stream name in an odd way AFTER the browser initially does an http get to the stream URL. Tried stripping it back down to its plain reflector URL, but got an Access Denied in WMP, but I'll keep on trying to figure it out. The streams work fine on my PC, but of course they were designed to be played back on a PC (with more advanced WMP support).
The streams are ~360kbps, but will go lower I think. Enjoy while they're available, don't know how much longer they'll last as publicly-accessible...
More BBC goodness now.
Newsnight
You can watch live from 2230 UK time weekdays, and towards midnight the show is made available online for on-demand viewing.
Stream: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc2/bb/wm/video/newsnight_bb.asx
Click
Formerly Click Online, BBC News 24's long-standing Technology programme. Updates every week.
BBC's Click pages: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/
BBC World's Click pages: http://www.bbcworld.com/content/template_clickonline.asp?pageid=666&co_pageid=1
Stream: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc1/bb/wm/video/click_bb.asx
Panorama
The BBC's hard-hitting documentary series, usually has an episode faaiiiiiiirly regularly (once every month or so).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/programmes/panorama/default.stm
Stream: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc1/bb/wm/video/pan_od_bb.asx
Other programmes of note...
The Politics Show: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc1/bb/wm/video/pol_show_od_bb.asx
Question Time (broadcast on BBC One on Thursdays at 2235 BST and can be viewed from the Question Time website at any time): http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc1/bb/wm/video/question_od_bb.asx
The Daily Politics (broadcast on BBC Two and live on this website every weekday 1200-1230 (Wednesdays 1130-1300, as it includes Prime Minister's Questions over lunchtime)): http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc2/bb/wm/video/daily_pol_bb.asx
This Week (broadcast on BBC One and live on this website every Thursday 2335-0020): http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc1/bb/wm/video/thisweek_bb.asx
This World (returning late September 2006): http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc2/bb/wm/video/tw_bb.asx
BBC News Live streams:
One of these is usually used to stream the news live as it's broadcast every day, and if there's a special event / important news event they sometimes use two or more of the streams to broadcast footage or reports.
Sometimes they link to these streams on the BBC News site, sometimes they don't, but here are the links anyway:
Stream 1:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/live/bb/wm/video/now1_bb.asx (WMP format)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/live/bb/rm/video/now1_bb.ram (RM format)
Stream 2:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/live/bb/wm/video/now2_bb.asx (WMP format)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/live/bb/rm/video/now2_bb.ram (RM format)
Stream 3:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/live/bb/wm/video/now3_bb.asx (WMP format)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/live/bb/rm/video/now3_bb.ram (RM format)
Stream 4:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/live/bb/wm/video/now4_bb.asx (WMP format)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/live/bb/rm/video/now4_bb.ram (RM format)
The live news is usually broadcast on now4 if memory serves (it's what I watched it on tonight, anyway).
More soon if I find any decent ones...
According to this DTG article, BBC News 24 will be streaming 'within months' (that article is from April of this year, but it's still quite possible provided they sort out the rights issues, given that News 24 currently only has UK rights).
Streaming TV, Movies and Radio
http://www.pocketpcmedia.com
all seem good liking the cnn ones
So the CNN Pipeline ones work for you? Interesting, I couldn't get them to work on my Vario 2... How do you have your device set up software-wise?
only have a vario 1 , and was via wifi, just clicked the link and it opens in wmp 10
CNN pipeline worked on my Vario II, then a day later it did not work and it gave me an error message.
Dont know why, although I know CNN Pipeline is a subscription-based service - they may have problems with it, which is why I managed one day to get free access to it, while access was declined the following day.
Have a look at this wikipedia entry for details of each feed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnn_pipeline
I know that when you access the initial URL it authenticates your IP for access to the stream, then forwards you to the mms reflector URL to actually load the content... I couldn't get WMP10 to properly access the first stream to get authenticated, and TCPMP wouldn't do it either.
It plays on my PC fine, so I know it's an authentication issue. Quite annoying cause I like the pipeline feeds
what's the difference betgween http:// and mms: ?
Is it best to use a mms link directly, or instead to go through the http:// first?
MMS = multimedia streaming protocol, it's true realtime streaming. HTTP is hypertext transfer protocol, the way that computers talk to web servers, the agreed standard if you will (http contains a big list of common codes which describe the status of a connection or request, such as HTTP 200 OK for a valid request, HTTP 404 Not Found for an attempt to access a nonexistent resource, HTTP 403 Forbidden... that's obvious, HTTP 500 Internal Server Error (usually seen if a PHP, SQL or CGI script is incorrectly configured on the server). it's been added to since it was first invented, and various programs can now pseudo-'stream' files are they're downloaded - but you can't stream in realtime over HTTP properly, it's always a fudge as there has to be a static file hosted somewhere for the transfer to begin. Therefore, most streaming servers (like the CNN ones) host the .asx (playlist) files on an http server, and if you download .asx file and drag it into Notepad, you'll see the links to the mms server, along with a reflector port and other information necessary to authenticate the client for access (used most for authenticated services or limited access streams). HTTP will be used as a fallback, but in most cases MMS (or TCP RTSP (Real Time Streaming Protocol)) will be used, as it's the best solution for streaming media in realtime.
Using ORB from www.orb.com you can watch and listen to all stuff you have on your home PC.
Now THERE's a thought - I had it installed about a year ago but didn't have free Internet then! Oh MAN... I could watch all my films on the go... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Personally I'm waiting for the Slingbox Pro to come over to the UK, I know my housemate's getting one but I may well end up getting one myself too, hah.
I have used orb on pocket pc since i got my wizard - now with the hermes it has the extra 3G option. which is a whole new expierence.
Bump as this thread is useful. Posting this via my Vario 2
I'd be interested to see what T-Mobile have to say about this... since according to their Web 'n' Walk fair usage policy.....
Fair use policy applies. To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers, the web 'n' walk service is not to be used for other activities such as (but not limited to): modem access for computers, internet based video/audio streaming services, peer to peer file sharing, internet based video downloads and internet based telephony. If such use is detected, notice may be given, after which network protection controls may be applied which will result in a reduced speed of transmission.
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Whoa. This is awesome -- how do u rep or thank the poster for these links?
Who needs MEdia net VOD.
Did anyone get the pocketpcmedia link working?
Thanks again to OP! you rock!
I rate this a 5!
There is a new HTC utility called HTC streaming player. I found it in the new Treo750. I tried it with Hermes but it is not working yet. I will uploaded soon to this forum. It streams rtsp//
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There is a new HTC utility called HTC streaming player. I found it in the new Treo750. I tried it with Hermes but it is not working yet. I will uploaded soon to this forum. It streams rtsp//
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That would be great. thanks
Orb and Digital TV Streaming
To those of you who use Orb, what TV tuner card have you got to get live digital tv streming over Orb?
i've been using Orb and it's a great piece of software, but I suppose the real benefit of Orb is to stream live digiotal TV that does not normally stream over the web (as you can stream live tv over the web on the Vario II with 3G/HSDPA without Orb).
I understand only a handful of TV tuner hardware are compatible with Orb. Which one do you use? How well do they work? How much have you spent?
thanks
Nicolas
armedmetallica said:
Whoa. This is awesome -- how do u rep or thank the poster for these links?
Who needs MEdia net VOD.
Did anyone get the pocketpcmedia link working?
Thanks again to OP! you rock!
I rate this a 5!
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What is MEdia net VOD
Hey guys! This is my first post so go easy on me (I apologize in advance to any mods if this is in the wrong section )
I own an Eten X500 so I couldn't really find a thread area that best suited for this topic. Regardless, this is a technique that I discovered by sheer accident that may help to relieve some of the stress of RTSP playback in WM5/6 devices.
For a while I have been attempting to playback rtsp feeds on my x500 because I happen to know of a couple live TV RTSP feeds (ESPN, MTV, etc..) and I thought it would be pretty damn cool to watch them on my phone via WiFi or whatever. However, my attempts seemed to keep failing; both pvplaver and the "HTC Streaming Video" app seemed to fail when I attempted to playback a file via an RTSP url. The only streaming video that seemed to work is orb (god bless this program) but TV streams could only be viewed via a TV Tuner built into your PC. Thats when I had my idea:
1) Create an easily accessible folder on your hard drive (i.e. C:\streams)
2) Within the folder create a shortcut to your feed by right clicking within the explorer window and selecting new->shortcut
3) Type the location of the RTSP feed into the dialouge box that appears (you can test it with one of my feeds, MTV BRAND NEW CHANNEL "rtsp://213.75.12.60/mtv_new_low" without the quotes.)
4)Click next
5) Label the shortcut with something you'll remember and click finish.
6) This is probably an important time to make sure you have orb installed and running. If not, you can download it HERE.
7) Once your orb server is set up, connect to it (with your Windows mobile device) via your mycast login page ("https://mycast.orb.com/orb/html/login.html").
8) Instead of browsing through your media, which for the most part is all you ever use orb for, use the "File Browser" tool found at the top of your mycast page. Navigate to your streams folder (i.e. C:\streams) and select your shortcut.
9) Voila! Windows Media Player should popup and your watching live TV on your Windows Mobile Phone via a simpe RTSP feed.
Hope someone can make use of this information or even figur out why it works, I figure this is the least I could do considering how many goodies I leech off of you guys!
Regards,
AIRBOURNE
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why it works
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Because RTSP, by default, doesn't work in NAT / behind firewalls and the two players you've listed (in addition to RealOne player) doesn't support HTTP fallback.
Orb, on the other hand, doesn't require back connections and, therefore, works even over restricted connections.
(BTW, great article! I'll link it in from my forthcoming Streaming Bible.)
i was thinking of a getting a shift as i am desperate to be able to play p2p streams via my hsdpa connection , so i can watch LIVE football on my AMEO from sopcast and other p2p streaming tv progs.
This morning I finally CRACKED it! and am now watching
Full screen SOPCAST TV on my AMEO
This means I can watch literally EVERY FOOTBALL match ANYWHERE on my AMEO for FREE!
this may be old news but im amazed.
if you want to know how i will post details
watching football for a bit to get it work is cooooooool...
tell me more!!!!!
dont beat around the bush c'mon hit us with the details!
okay heres how its done
First u must have an unlimited HSDPA account or you are gonna spend loads of dosh
progs needed for full control fom anywhere
Logmein - free version (pc remote control app)
VLC player (pc app)
Sopcast 1.1.2 (pc App)
TCPMP 0.81 (its the only version that plays video great for me, u may prefer other versions)
obviously you need BB connection on your home pc
1. install logmein and create an account you can then log into your pc remotely (change resolution to 640X480)
and you can see the whole of your screen on your athena/ameo.htc7500 etc
install all of the above apps
2.In your Ameo make sure that TCPMP is your choice for all video types i.e. wmv playback etc so it auto runs any video
3. open media player , select open URL and under network options select wifi/Lan (1.0mbps or faster) and tick detect connection speed and then close
4. start sopcast on your pc and get a channel going in the standalone player not the web based player
5.start VLC
6. once the channel has started right click on the player screen and select properties
7. highlight and copy the location http://xxxxxxxxxx etc
8. click File- open network stream on vlc player
9.select HTTP/HHTPS/FTP/MMS and paste the location into the URL box
10. the stream should now start to play in vlc (prob quicker than sopcast!)
11.click file again on VLC and select WIZARD
12. make sure stream to network is slected and click next
13.select Existing play item and highlight the location name in the box and click next
14.Select HTTP and leave the box below blank press next
15.Leave on ASF and click next
16. type 1 or 2 or leave blank it may or may not matter
17.now click finish
VLC player should shrink and in the bottom box it should have a timer that doesnt move and say transcoding
click view and check messages if its BLANK your in business.
Now open up internet explorer in your ameo
and type
mms://your pc's ip address:8080 press go
TCPMP player should automatically start and start playing the stream.
If you are in portrait mode when you hear some sound press the button to change to landscape and TCPMP should be playing back whatever you Channel you selected.
VOILA!
Logmein like all remote software allows you to set this all up from your PC remotely
have fun FOOTY HERE I COME!!
Can anyone confirm that this works?
Also, is it better/worse than a Slinbox type config, aside from the advantage of not requiring a separate cable/tv box?
simoncells.com said:
Can anyone confirm that this works?
Also, is it better/worse than a Slinbox type config, aside from the advantage of not requiring a separate cable/tv box?
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If it didnt work i wouldnt post it
An easier way to do this is (taken from the Orb website not my work and it works great is)
I managed to get SopCast and pplive streaming on my cell through Orb. It's probably similar with the other p2p streaming softwares.
'Here's how to do it:
1. Open SopCast on a channel.
2. Add the Custom Channel in Orb. For that, go the the TV application, select the Internet TV/favorite channels menu, and click the Add Custom action next to the play button. Enter SopCast for the name and http://127.0.0.1:8902/tv.asf for the URL (this URL may be different for you if you changed the default ports options in SopCast)
3. You can now stream this channel via Orb from the Internet TV menu.
With pplive, the URL to add depends on the channel you select, to find it, click on the "open in external Windows Media Player icon" once the channel play, and look at the URL of the playing item, it will look like http://127.0.0.1:8888 '
it does pause now and then but you can get a good long watch much of the time depending on the channel
this is down to the way TCPMP player handles streams more than the ORB software
i can stream this while on evdo, but not on wifi, can i configure the wifi tho stream this?
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i can stream this while on evdo, but not on wifi, can i configure the wifi tho stream this?
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should be the same, i have hsdpa and havent tried wifi so i cant say for sure , but why not?
might be to do with IP addresses, if u are at using wifi maybe your ip address is different
Question for spacecat, or anyone else who can help:
I have an ameo too, and have tried the two ways that you have mentioned of viewing sopcast i.e. through VLC and ORB. Have found the following:
1) via ORB: Managed to get the stream to the ameo displayed via TCPMP but the video was very choppy and frankly unwatchable (any particular settings I should be aware of?)
2) via VLC: Keep getting the error mms: protocol not supported (do I need a particular plugin for TCPMP?)
Which option gives better quality of steam?
Thanks in advance
billu said:
Question for spacecat, or anyone else who can help:
I have an ameo too, and have tried the two ways that you have mentioned of viewing sopcast i.e. through VLC and ORB. Have found the following:
1) via ORB: Managed to get the stream to the ameo displayed via TCPMP but the video was very choppy and frankly unwatchable (any particular settings I should be aware of?)
2) via VLC: Keep getting the error mms: protocol not supported (do I need a particular plugin for TCPMP?)
Which option gives better quality of steam?
Thanks in advance
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you need the WM5 WMV9 codecs the WM6 codecs you currently have do not work properly !
basically unzip the attached files and bung em in your windows folder !
oh and if your stationary you can get away with your ORB server uploading at 320K or 400k max but 400 might have issues, if you are on the move (train for example) 160K is about your limit but experiment, and be mindful of your home broadbands max up speed, im on virgin 20Mb (down) so my max upload speed is 768K
VLC Stream & Convert
hxxp://traveldevel.com
This software has been out for a little over 2 months and for some reason it hasnt become wildly popular. I figured id start a thread for it since the software can be quirky when setting it up. It sounds like it was a side project for the author.. it is an amazing side project. My phone has become the end all be all multimedia device. I can access my music with Subsonic and all of my Movies with this app. The only thing you need on your PC is VLC.
My EVO is 100% Stock so I do know it works with everything on the stock EVO.
Some quick tips with the EVO.
1. By default the app is set to use port 554 under the "Stream to phone (rtsp)". Change that to port 5554.
2. Wifi has to be on for the video streaming to work for some reason. You do not have to be connected to wifi, just the antenna has to be on.
3. IF you are confused by VLC and want aa quick way to set it up properly in windows (especially with the newer versions of vlc) the VLC setup tool by Hobbyist Software works great. It is a one time setup.
I've had this app for a while now and love it.
Actually, thanks to this post I figured out finally how to stream video over 3g. Didn't know the wireless had to be turned on.. weird.
Awesome being able to have my entire media collection on the go, don't have to worry about converting files or switching out what is on my sd card.
I tried setting this up before but couldn't get it to work. I believe VLC is setup correctly and I put in my computers IP (trying to do it over 3G). It never displays my files, it also doesn't give an error message or anything either. Just sits there. Any idea?
When you go to localhost:8080 in your pc browser what do you see?
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When you go to localhost:8080 in your pc browser what do you see?
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I see the VLC web interface. But when I put in my IP address (trying to do it over 3g and not wifi) it doesn't connect.
I made a little write up for another forum, steal anything you'd like for the OP:
Fans of Air Video on the iPhone/Pad/Touch know that there are no plans for a much requested Android port because if its reliance on Apple's AirPlay protocol.
Well for Android users there's now an equivalent alternative using VLC.
What this does:
Let you transcode and play on the fly any media file you can play with the desktop version of VLC from your desktop and stream live to your Android device over WiFi and/or a mobile network (3G/4G). VLC will stream the video via the RTSP protocol which supports live seeking of streamed content.
Orb Live also does this, but the Orb client is not free and the video quality sucks ass. The video quality using VLC transcoding is quite excellent.
Installing the RTSP Server
Quick Setup:
1.) Grab a copy of VLC, the latest version of this writing is v1.1.4 has garbled audio issues when transcoding videos with AAC, so grab the older version (1.1.3) from here:
http://www.oldapps.com/VLC_Player.php?old_vlc=53?download
2.) Start VLC and go to
A.) Tools->Preferences
B.) On the bottom left click on the "All" radio button to show all settings.
C.) On the treeview to the left exapnd the Interface tree node and select the "Main interfaces" tree item.
D.) On the right side check the "HTTP remote control interface" option and press the Save button.
Leave VLC running it will act as a streaming RTSP server with a web based file browser running by default on port 8080.
For a more advanced setup, or if you need to setup using alternate ports refer to the info here:
http://traveldevel.com/vlc-stream-convert/setup
Installing Client
Grab VLC Stream and Convert from the Market (the free version works fine and will do pretty much everything we want):
http://www.appbrain.com/app/vlc-stream-convert/com.gmail.traveldevel.android.vlc.app
Exposing VLC to the Internet for 3G/Mobile streaming
Quick Setup;
1.) On my Windows 7 firewall settings I allowed the VLC.exe public and private network access.
2.) On the router I port forwarded the default ports used by VLC for the web based file browser and RTSP server (ports 8080 and 5554 respectively). The default RTSP port may be 554, check and/or change VLC Stream & Convert to verify.
More detailed setup:
http://traveldevel.com/vlc-stream-convert/streaming-over-3g
Streaming over 3G on Froyo (Android 2.2) Workaround
Apparantly there's an issue with Froyo (experienced with my Evo 4G running stock Froyo) which locks down the ability to stream via RTSP over 3G. The work-around is to turn on the WiFi radio, even if you stream off 3G.
More info on the issue here:
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/94/p/5287/23683.aspx
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g/26814-htc-streaming-media-player-problems.html
Tweaking for your device:
For optimized viewing on Sprint 3G's network on my EVO 4G, I use thse settings.
1.) In the VLC Stream & Convert application type the "menu" button and tap "Settings".
2.) Under the "Stream to phone (rtsp) under the "H.264" AVC settings I set
- Video Bitrate to 512
- Width to 480
- Canvas aspect ratio : 15:9 (800:480)
- Under x264 settings I set Reference frames to 3.
3.) Under the "Playback" section set:
-Portrait video width to 480
-Landscape video width to 800
Playing Media:
http://traveldevel.com/vlc-stream-convert/usage
Thanks Talyn.... cant wait to get home and try this.
i been using my ipod touch (wifi tether) with air video to stream from home while at work but id like to not have to carry both devices everyday.
will try this later for sure
Followed the above instructions.
I can remotely control VLC, but I can't seem to get the video to run. I configured the port to 5554 and 554 (with the appropriate router changes). I also configured these ports in Windows Firewall.
I get an error stating: "Too Many Errors"
Don't know if this matters, but it is running on a Windows Home Server machine.
sw99 said:
Followed the above instructions.
I can remotely control VLC, but I can't seem to get the video to run. I configured the port to 5554 and 554 (with the appropriate router changes). I also configured these ports in Windows Firewall.
I get an error stating: "Too Many Errors"
Don't know if this matters, but it is running on a Windows Home Server machine.
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As a troubleshooting step can you stream within your local network? Meaning don't try to connect via 3g, use the local ip address of the home server and connect within your local home network wifi. That will tell us if the issue is router/Sprint network related configuration issue.
One more thing that should be pointed out.
You are giving the entire Internet access to your files. Developer suggests that you limit your router access to your IP address, but I found that Sprint changes your IP address on a regular basis.
Wish VLC would implement some sort of security on their end.
I had to use port 554 but video playback is choppy for some reason over wifi or 3g.
^^ yeah, the security thing sucks. One solution would be to relay it via VPN but that would add a bunch of overhead. It wouldn't be too hard to write your own file browser interface with an RTSP relay, but alas who has the time....
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I had to use port 554 but video playback is choppy for some reason over wifi or 3g.
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What are the specs of the computer you're running VLC on? Might be due to it not being powerful to encode certain videos on the fly.
I have it running on a pretty beefy machine. Core i7 920 overlclocked to 3.9ghz, and I can trans code 1080p MKVs with no choppiness.
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What are the specs of the computer you're running VLC on? Might be due to it not being powerful to encode certain videos on the fly.
I have it running on a pretty beefy machine. Core i7 920 overlclocked to 3.9ghz, and I can trans code 1080p MKVs with no choppiness.
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It's older pc, Core 2 Duo 8400.
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It's older pc, Core 2 Duo 8400.
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That's still a pretty darn good processor. What's your CPU usage at when streaming videos?
Working good for me on Wifi on the local network but not when I try to connect externally. I have all the appropriate ports forwarded and it acts like it's playing.. But I get no video. No errors.. Just no video.
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Working good for me on Wifi on the local network but not when I try to connect externally. I have all the appropriate ports forwarded and it acts like it's playing.. But I get no video. No errors.. Just no video.
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What bitrate / horizontal width set to? How fast is your 3G connection? I usually have to wait about 10 or seconds before the video starts playing over 3G. Until then it's just black.
It's working fine for me now that I'm outside of my local network. It just wasn't working when I was on my local network and trying to connect with an external IP. Dunno why
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thenags said:
It's working fine for me now that I'm outside of my local network. It just wasn't working when I was on my local network and trying to connect with an external IP. Dunno why
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Ah, probably due to loopback being off on your router. Quite common.
Bumping to say I just tested this with the HDMI cable and it works fine! There's some serious nerd cred to be able stream and trascode videos on the fly over the Internet and into someone's big screen TV via your phone.