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watching my web cam

I've heard that there's a way to watch my web cam in the PPC, using ORB.
I've got ORB, but couldn't find a way doing that.
Will appreciate any help..

Make sure you have the latest version of Orb downloaded. I'd also check to make sure that your camera is being shown as an input device in your control panel under scanners and cameras. Then the GUI is pretty self explanatory for setting it up on your Orb server. You will have to create a username/password to log onto your Orb server from your phone. Basically you will just have to log onto orb.com after setting up your server and it will show a link for the webcam. Click on it and it will open up your default media player. You might want to connect via wifi. GPRS will be choppy and slow.
Edit - If you are having trouble finding it after you log in, Orb has it under the TV tab for some reason and it doesn't have its own tab...

thanks, all i needed was the EDIT part about the TV, i was looking for Camera tag.

Anyone interested in a home made VOD service?

As some of you asked me for the translation, I did it. I just put it here, so that you can all give a try if you want.
http://shaka-team.ch/kaliF.ProD/FuN_KeY/vod_eng.rar
A week ago I spent some time to build a home made Video On Demand system, and I was wondering if it could interest some of you. If you are interested I can translate it into english and write a little how-to.
My system is very simple; the computer with the data (films, divx, dvd, ...) will become a web server listing all available media and offering live streaming and transcoding to smartphones/pdas and/or other computers.
Usage:
I am far too lazy to convert my film/dvd to ppc format and to send it to the SD card; that's why I decided to stream the film I want to see directly over the wifi. I also use this when I am on the go with a computer/ppc and nothing to do, I can easily watch my films through the internet.
Requirement for the server:
-Win 2k/XP Pro/2k3 with IIS setuped
Requirement for the client (PDA):
-TCPMP installed
-A tytn (didn't tried with other device in fact, but it should work on most PDA/smartphone)
Requirement for the client PC:
-Divx codec or filter setuped
Limitation:
-If you plan to stream over the internet, keep in mind that the size of your upload will condition the quality of the video.
-Only one client can stream at the same time (in fact more clients can connect to the server, but they will all see the same film)
-No possibility to go forward/backward, you have to watch the entire film straith forward (you can pause as long as your device is able to hold the running film in the buffer)
SETUP
-On XP Pro, Win 2k, Win 2k3 go to control panel > add/remove software > integrated components
-Select and install IIS (www service is enough)
-Extract my app in c:\inetpub\wwwroot\vod
-Edit default.asp and replace "c:\film_path" by the path of your films (you can add many folders by copy-pasting this line)
-Edit the play.asp and replace "server_name" by the name or the IP of the computer
-Edit film.asx and replace "external_dns" by your external ip or DNS if you have one. You can also setup here the local name/ip of the computer (the same as in play.asp) but in this case you will not be able to stream your films from outside your home network
-If you are using the external IP/DNS, do not forget to configure your router/firewall to allow and to route the traffic from the socket 8080 to the computer hosting the app
-If you don't have a static IP, you can freely get a DNS that link to your dynamique IP; visit www.dyndns.org for more informations
-go at http://computer_name/vod and try to watch a film (There may be an issue with firefox; I may work on it a bit later)
SETUP, PPC Side
-Setup TCPMP 0.71RC1 or 0.72RC1; most of the versions available should be fine
-Go to setup menu and remove all the tick in directdraw page if you are experiencing strange behaviour with the picture
-Go to file association and tic at least Windows meta files (ASX, ...)
-Start pocket IE and go to http://server_name/vod; you should be able to watch your films by now
NOTES
-The app is able to handle DVD files, as long as it can detect the VIDEO_TS folders
-The app is limited to one user at the same time; I did this because my upload do not allow me to stream more
-There is still a slight syncro problem on PPC with the picture and the sound; sadly, I think that it is a TCPMP issue

I'd be VERY interested in trialling this service, as I installed Orb and, like many other people with the latest version (see the Orb support forums), it just doesn't work AT ALL.
So, I'm looking for a good replacement (which works!) - I'm not afraid of getting my hands dirty and tweaking, bug testing, so yeah - send me the details ... Just a quick questing regarding the requirement for IIS; what technology does this use, .net/ASP? If so, I might have to install an ASP filter for Apache (as I don't use IIS), or I might have to set up that fileserver machine I've been preparing to build for a while

Yes, it uses a ASP. Most of the time I code in php, but as my file server was under win2k3 I decided to "learn" ASP. But my code is very simple; I am pretty sure that it can be translated in php in about 15 minutes, I don't believe in php on windows and asp on linux

Well mate, you know who to PM with the details & info

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Regarding ORB, I have it installed and it works flawlessly with my Tytn. I can select my home webcam to see how my puppy is doing while away from home. I can stream all my recorded TV shows and movies as well as watch live TV from anywhwere that has a decent Internet connection. I can also schedule TV shows to record, plus I have access to all my music and picture libraries. I love it - its simply the most amazing free software. I love that there is nothing required to install on my Tytn it just uses the web browser and WM10.

Too bad ORB does not support DVB-S cards.
BTW, I'm converting mpegs from my webcam into 3gp H.263 using ffmpeg, it
shrinks files about 1/100 (w/ 176x144 resolution 5fps only, which is ok for this
purpose).

Downloaded just now, but I'm going to bed (have you seen the time! 6am UK time ) so I'll give it a try either tomorrow or beginning of next week.

I know orb, and it is a service that work great. But in my case I dont like the use of external server that I cannot control; that's why I prefere doing it my way. My app is not here to replace orb, it is just a small alternative that do the thing a bit different.

Shift No Longer Needed!

i was thinking of a getting a shift as i am desperate to be able to play p2p streams via my hsdpa connection , so i can watch LIVE football on my AMEO from sopcast and other p2p streaming tv progs.
This morning I finally CRACKED it! and am now watching
Full screen SOPCAST TV on my AMEO
This means I can watch literally EVERY FOOTBALL match ANYWHERE on my AMEO for FREE!
this may be old news but im amazed.
if you want to know how i will post details

watching football for a bit to get it work is cooooooool...
tell me more!!!!!

dont beat around the bush c'mon hit us with the details!

okay heres how its done
First u must have an unlimited HSDPA account or you are gonna spend loads of dosh
progs needed for full control fom anywhere
Logmein - free version (pc remote control app)
VLC player (pc app)
Sopcast 1.1.2 (pc App)
TCPMP 0.81 (its the only version that plays video great for me, u may prefer other versions)
obviously you need BB connection on your home pc
1. install logmein and create an account you can then log into your pc remotely (change resolution to 640X480)
and you can see the whole of your screen on your athena/ameo.htc7500 etc
install all of the above apps
2.In your Ameo make sure that TCPMP is your choice for all video types i.e. wmv playback etc so it auto runs any video
3. open media player , select open URL and under network options select wifi/Lan (1.0mbps or faster) and tick detect connection speed and then close
4. start sopcast on your pc and get a channel going in the standalone player not the web based player
5.start VLC
6. once the channel has started right click on the player screen and select properties
7. highlight and copy the location http://xxxxxxxxxx etc
8. click File- open network stream on vlc player
9.select HTTP/HHTPS/FTP/MMS and paste the location into the URL box
10. the stream should now start to play in vlc (prob quicker than sopcast!)
11.click file again on VLC and select WIZARD
12. make sure stream to network is slected and click next
13.select Existing play item and highlight the location name in the box and click next
14.Select HTTP and leave the box below blank press next
15.Leave on ASF and click next
16. type 1 or 2 or leave blank it may or may not matter
17.now click finish
VLC player should shrink and in the bottom box it should have a timer that doesnt move and say transcoding
click view and check messages if its BLANK your in business.
Now open up internet explorer in your ameo
and type
mms://your pc's ip address:8080 press go
TCPMP player should automatically start and start playing the stream.
If you are in portrait mode when you hear some sound press the button to change to landscape and TCPMP should be playing back whatever you Channel you selected.
VOILA!
Logmein like all remote software allows you to set this all up from your PC remotely
have fun FOOTY HERE I COME!!

Can anyone confirm that this works?
Also, is it better/worse than a Slinbox type config, aside from the advantage of not requiring a separate cable/tv box?

simoncells.com said:
Can anyone confirm that this works?
Also, is it better/worse than a Slinbox type config, aside from the advantage of not requiring a separate cable/tv box?
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If it didnt work i wouldnt post it

An easier way to do this is (taken from the Orb website not my work and it works great is)
I managed to get SopCast and pplive streaming on my cell through Orb. It's probably similar with the other p2p streaming softwares.
'Here's how to do it:
1. Open SopCast on a channel.
2. Add the Custom Channel in Orb. For that, go the the TV application, select the Internet TV/favorite channels menu, and click the Add Custom action next to the play button. Enter SopCast for the name and http://127.0.0.1:8902/tv.asf for the URL (this URL may be different for you if you changed the default ports options in SopCast)
3. You can now stream this channel via Orb from the Internet TV menu.
With pplive, the URL to add depends on the channel you select, to find it, click on the "open in external Windows Media Player icon" once the channel play, and look at the URL of the playing item, it will look like http://127.0.0.1:8888 '
it does pause now and then but you can get a good long watch much of the time depending on the channel
this is down to the way TCPMP player handles streams more than the ORB software

i can stream this while on evdo, but not on wifi, can i configure the wifi tho stream this?

i2idiniow said:
i can stream this while on evdo, but not on wifi, can i configure the wifi tho stream this?
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should be the same, i have hsdpa and havent tried wifi so i cant say for sure , but why not?
might be to do with IP addresses, if u are at using wifi maybe your ip address is different

Question for spacecat, or anyone else who can help:
I have an ameo too, and have tried the two ways that you have mentioned of viewing sopcast i.e. through VLC and ORB. Have found the following:
1) via ORB: Managed to get the stream to the ameo displayed via TCPMP but the video was very choppy and frankly unwatchable (any particular settings I should be aware of?)
2) via VLC: Keep getting the error mms: protocol not supported (do I need a particular plugin for TCPMP?)
Which option gives better quality of steam?
Thanks in advance

billu said:
Question for spacecat, or anyone else who can help:
I have an ameo too, and have tried the two ways that you have mentioned of viewing sopcast i.e. through VLC and ORB. Have found the following:
1) via ORB: Managed to get the stream to the ameo displayed via TCPMP but the video was very choppy and frankly unwatchable (any particular settings I should be aware of?)
2) via VLC: Keep getting the error mms: protocol not supported (do I need a particular plugin for TCPMP?)
Which option gives better quality of steam?
Thanks in advance
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you need the WM5 WMV9 codecs the WM6 codecs you currently have do not work properly !
basically unzip the attached files and bung em in your windows folder !
oh and if your stationary you can get away with your ORB server uploading at 320K or 400k max but 400 might have issues, if you are on the move (train for example) 160K is about your limit but experiment, and be mindful of your home broadbands max up speed, im on virgin 20Mb (down) so my max upload speed is 768K

Monitoring IP Cams!!!

Hello all,
I have a small computer store and I have connected 2 TrendNet IP cameras to my network to monitor my store and record all activity with their sowftware. Also them being an IP cams any computer in network can open their IP addresses and watch what is happening in the store over Internet Explorer or other browsers on a PC ...
Is there some program for my HTC Touch HD to monitor those cams? Or am i missing something I need to install to be able to see through Internet Explorer or Opera on my HTC Phone. In my previous phone (HTC TyTn) i could only see still image from camera, but not video. Blackstone won't even show still image.
Both cameras support MS ActiveX and one camera can also show video through java, video is coded in MPEG4 format.
Thanks in advance...

I would like to know a solution to this as well. I have the Panasonic netcams and have the same problem. My wife has the iphone and can view movement on the cams full screen via safari.

interesting....
razor_amd said:
Hello all,
I have a small computer store and I have connected 2 TrendNet IP cameras to my network to monitor my store and record all activity with their sowftware. Also them being an IP cams any computer in network can open their IP addresses and watch what is happening in the store over Internet Explorer or other browsers on a PC ...
Is there some program for my HTC Touch HD to monitor those cams? Or am i missing something I need to install to be able to see through Internet Explorer or Opera on my HTC Phone. In my previous phone (HTC TyTn) i could only see still image from camera, but not video. Blackstone won't even show still image.
Both cameras support MS ActiveX and one camera can also show video through java, video is coded in MPEG4 format.
Thanks in advance...
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Can i ask you, which camera you have.... it wouldnt be an ELRO camera would it???
i am having probs getting my camera to send an image to my webpage, once at webpage next step is what your trying to do....
any help would be greatly welcomed....
cheers mark

have you tried "my orb" http://www.orb.com/

Try to find out direct url to the mpeg4-stream, then just open windows media player, go library, menu -> open URL
If u manage to play the mpeg4-stream with ur computer, click over the video windows -> properties, there u should see the url from where windows media player is playing the stream. The url could be something "rtsp://..." or "mms://..."

Monitoring IP Cams (just released sw)
IP Camera viewing
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Try this.. Hope it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513988
L4z3r

could you not use the remote desktop client on the HD to view them?

Orb works great here already a vieuw years now. it's free,and you can also listen to music from your pc throug internet on your hd and/or watch movie's stored on you computerand watch them throug internet on your hd.
regards stef

Webcamxp:
webcamXP Mobile HD v2.1.3
This new version has been particulary optimized for HTC Touch HD.

Try Yawcam
I had a little dabble with streaming a web cam to the internet and the best program I came across was a free program called YAWCAM (Yet Another Webcam Software!).
http://www.yawcam.com/
I haven't used it recently, but it is simple to use and I successfully streamed images of our home to my Orange SPV E650 (this too was an HTC smart phone, but rebranded for Orange in the UK).
I reckon on the HD the results should be pretty good. A the time I was using it for monitoring our newly installed cat flap (CATCAM!) to make sure both of our cats were actually using it (one still refuses to ) .
I think if you used this in conjunction with remote desktop, VNC or the like, you should then be able to control the camera too.
Hope this helps...

I own a couple of places... and use the AVTECH DVR's
16 cameras on each site..and it comes with an app.. eagleyes. It is for WM5/WM6..and have it running with no probs on all devices..from QVGA - WVGA.
only thing you may get is a weird name for each connection. otherwise..I can happily sit anywhere and still look at my public/staff

mmdirk said:
I would like to know a solution to this as well. I have the Panasonic netcams and have the same problem. My wife has the iphone and can view movement on the cams full screen via safari.
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Like L4z3r said, I would check out this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513988
There is no need for a computer to be on and attached if the camera supports JPEG or MJPEG. It allows you to have one free IP camera so you can also test to make sure it works for you.
mmdirk, the app supports PTZ on Panasonic (for cameras that have PTZ capabilities), you can actually control the camera with the touch of a finger. Hope this works for you.

WebcamXP Mobile HD does the job
Hi, I'm using Webcam Mobile HD (see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492081) with my IP camera Y-Cam Knight and it works like a treat. Best via 3G or WiFi but 1 pic every 10sec even via GPRS. The software also has full-screen and landscape modes to make use of the large display. Highly recommended!

[App] VLC Stream & Convert

VLC Stream & Convert
hxxp://traveldevel.com
This software has been out for a little over 2 months and for some reason it hasnt become wildly popular. I figured id start a thread for it since the software can be quirky when setting it up. It sounds like it was a side project for the author.. it is an amazing side project. My phone has become the end all be all multimedia device. I can access my music with Subsonic and all of my Movies with this app. The only thing you need on your PC is VLC.
My EVO is 100% Stock so I do know it works with everything on the stock EVO.
Some quick tips with the EVO.
1. By default the app is set to use port 554 under the "Stream to phone (rtsp)". Change that to port 5554.
2. Wifi has to be on for the video streaming to work for some reason. You do not have to be connected to wifi, just the antenna has to be on.
3. IF you are confused by VLC and want aa quick way to set it up properly in windows (especially with the newer versions of vlc) the VLC setup tool by Hobbyist Software works great. It is a one time setup.

I've had this app for a while now and love it.
Actually, thanks to this post I figured out finally how to stream video over 3g. Didn't know the wireless had to be turned on.. weird.
Awesome being able to have my entire media collection on the go, don't have to worry about converting files or switching out what is on my sd card.

I tried setting this up before but couldn't get it to work. I believe VLC is setup correctly and I put in my computers IP (trying to do it over 3G). It never displays my files, it also doesn't give an error message or anything either. Just sits there. Any idea?

When you go to localhost:8080 in your pc browser what do you see?

donloki said:
When you go to localhost:8080 in your pc browser what do you see?
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I see the VLC web interface. But when I put in my IP address (trying to do it over 3g and not wifi) it doesn't connect.

I made a little write up for another forum, steal anything you'd like for the OP:
Fans of Air Video on the iPhone/Pad/Touch know that there are no plans for a much requested Android port because if its reliance on Apple's AirPlay protocol.
Well for Android users there's now an equivalent alternative using VLC.
What this does:
Let you transcode and play on the fly any media file you can play with the desktop version of VLC from your desktop and stream live to your Android device over WiFi and/or a mobile network (3G/4G). VLC will stream the video via the RTSP protocol which supports live seeking of streamed content.
Orb Live also does this, but the Orb client is not free and the video quality sucks ass. The video quality using VLC transcoding is quite excellent.
Installing the RTSP Server
Quick Setup:
1.) Grab a copy of VLC, the latest version of this writing is v1.1.4 has garbled audio issues when transcoding videos with AAC, so grab the older version (1.1.3) from here:
http://www.oldapps.com/VLC_Player.php?old_vlc=53?download
2.) Start VLC and go to
A.) Tools->Preferences
B.) On the bottom left click on the "All" radio button to show all settings.
C.) On the treeview to the left exapnd the Interface tree node and select the "Main interfaces" tree item.
D.) On the right side check the "HTTP remote control interface" option and press the Save button.
Leave VLC running it will act as a streaming RTSP server with a web based file browser running by default on port 8080.
For a more advanced setup, or if you need to setup using alternate ports refer to the info here:
http://traveldevel.com/vlc-stream-convert/setup
Installing Client
Grab VLC Stream and Convert from the Market (the free version works fine and will do pretty much everything we want):
http://www.appbrain.com/app/vlc-stream-convert/com.gmail.traveldevel.android.vlc.app
Exposing VLC to the Internet for 3G/Mobile streaming
Quick Setup;
1.) On my Windows 7 firewall settings I allowed the VLC.exe public and private network access.
2.) On the router I port forwarded the default ports used by VLC for the web based file browser and RTSP server (ports 8080 and 5554 respectively). The default RTSP port may be 554, check and/or change VLC Stream & Convert to verify.
More detailed setup:
http://traveldevel.com/vlc-stream-convert/streaming-over-3g
Streaming over 3G on Froyo (Android 2.2) Workaround
Apparantly there's an issue with Froyo (experienced with my Evo 4G running stock Froyo) which locks down the ability to stream via RTSP over 3G. The work-around is to turn on the WiFi radio, even if you stream off 3G.
More info on the issue here:
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/94/p/5287/23683.aspx
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g/26814-htc-streaming-media-player-problems.html
Tweaking for your device:
For optimized viewing on Sprint 3G's network on my EVO 4G, I use thse settings.
1.) In the VLC Stream & Convert application type the "menu" button and tap "Settings".
2.) Under the "Stream to phone (rtsp) under the "H.264" AVC settings I set
- Video Bitrate to 512
- Width to 480
- Canvas aspect ratio : 15:9 (800:480)
- Under x264 settings I set Reference frames to 3.
3.) Under the "Playback" section set:
-Portrait video width to 480
-Landscape video width to 800
Playing Media:
http://traveldevel.com/vlc-stream-convert/usage

Thanks Talyn.... cant wait to get home and try this.
i been using my ipod touch (wifi tether) with air video to stream from home while at work but id like to not have to carry both devices everyday.

will try this later for sure

Followed the above instructions.
I can remotely control VLC, but I can't seem to get the video to run. I configured the port to 5554 and 554 (with the appropriate router changes). I also configured these ports in Windows Firewall.
I get an error stating: "Too Many Errors"
Don't know if this matters, but it is running on a Windows Home Server machine.

sw99 said:
Followed the above instructions.
I can remotely control VLC, but I can't seem to get the video to run. I configured the port to 5554 and 554 (with the appropriate router changes). I also configured these ports in Windows Firewall.
I get an error stating: "Too Many Errors"
Don't know if this matters, but it is running on a Windows Home Server machine.
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As a troubleshooting step can you stream within your local network? Meaning don't try to connect via 3g, use the local ip address of the home server and connect within your local home network wifi. That will tell us if the issue is router/Sprint network related configuration issue.

One more thing that should be pointed out.
You are giving the entire Internet access to your files. Developer suggests that you limit your router access to your IP address, but I found that Sprint changes your IP address on a regular basis.
Wish VLC would implement some sort of security on their end.

I had to use port 554 but video playback is choppy for some reason over wifi or 3g.

^^ yeah, the security thing sucks. One solution would be to relay it via VPN but that would add a bunch of overhead. It wouldn't be too hard to write your own file browser interface with an RTSP relay, but alas who has the time....
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I had to use port 554 but video playback is choppy for some reason over wifi or 3g.
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What are the specs of the computer you're running VLC on? Might be due to it not being powerful to encode certain videos on the fly.
I have it running on a pretty beefy machine. Core i7 920 overlclocked to 3.9ghz, and I can trans code 1080p MKVs with no choppiness.

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What are the specs of the computer you're running VLC on? Might be due to it not being powerful to encode certain videos on the fly.
I have it running on a pretty beefy machine. Core i7 920 overlclocked to 3.9ghz, and I can trans code 1080p MKVs with no choppiness.
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It's older pc, Core 2 Duo 8400.

hkkmr said:
It's older pc, Core 2 Duo 8400.
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That's still a pretty darn good processor. What's your CPU usage at when streaming videos?

Working good for me on Wifi on the local network but not when I try to connect externally. I have all the appropriate ports forwarded and it acts like it's playing.. But I get no video. No errors.. Just no video.

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Working good for me on Wifi on the local network but not when I try to connect externally. I have all the appropriate ports forwarded and it acts like it's playing.. But I get no video. No errors.. Just no video.
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What bitrate / horizontal width set to? How fast is your 3G connection? I usually have to wait about 10 or seconds before the video starts playing over 3G. Until then it's just black.

It's working fine for me now that I'm outside of my local network. It just wasn't working when I was on my local network and trying to connect with an external IP. Dunno why
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thenags said:
It's working fine for me now that I'm outside of my local network. It just wasn't working when I was on my local network and trying to connect with an external IP. Dunno why
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Ah, probably due to loopback being off on your router. Quite common.

Bumping to say I just tested this with the HDMI cable and it works fine! There's some serious nerd cred to be able stream and trascode videos on the fly over the Internet and into someone's big screen TV via your phone.