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Viewing a webcam on Universal

I run an IP based webcam on my network at home, with its own built in webserver. It creates a streaming image, and (I believe) uses ActiveX to display in a browser window.
I can call up the page using my MDA Pro, and Pocket IE, but the frame containing the image doesn't load - so I can configure the camera etc etc, but can't see any output.
It would be VERY helpful to be able to view... does anyone know of any way to get it working?

Using webcam.. try windows media encoder
Hi,
Try this, download windows media encoder (free from MS) , then choose to stream your webcam, it will ask you for port no etc (just choose 80 if you can) then you should be able to connect by typing mms://(your ip) (port) into windows media player on exec and voila.. or I have set my server as a media sever and view videos Ive made on my exec.. its pretty cool.. same principal (sort of)... 8)

Thanks for that, however I'm not running a webcam attached to a PC - its an IP Network Camera (has its own WiFi connection direct to my router) which has its own built-in webserver - so its totally standalone.
I *think* it should also deliver as a java page for devices which don't support the ActiveX control, but I can't seem to toggle that either.
I did hope to simply open the URL in Pocket IE or WM10 on the MDA Pro and simply have it work. It doesn't...

Just wanted to bump this thread up - I'm hoping to do this too to keep an eye on an increasingly mobile baby and save us from having to run back and forth to check how far she's gotten this time!

Perhaps you could provide us with some info on the camera..
What type is it?

Re: Using webcam.. try windows media encoder
mcse17 said:
Hi,
Try this, download windows media encoder (free from MS) , then choose to stream your webcam, it will ask you for port no etc (just choose 80 if you can) then you should be able to connect by typing mms://(your ip) (port) into windows media player on exec and voila.. or I have set my server as a media sever and view videos Ive made on my exec.. its pretty cool.. same principal (sort of)... 8)
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Hi
it works but on PC and not on my JJ...
why?
:wink:

the camera stream is accessed via javascript and unfortuantly pocket IE does not support javascript. Other browsers do, like thunderhawk, but it does not seem to work correctly on jasjar/mda pro.

I use Axis IP Cameras, and Video servers, and a program on my XDA exec by axis to view my cameras, Its excellent been useing it for ages, i can even control the PTZ cameras i have
You can pick up Axis 2100 cameras on ebay for £80, I have used other types of IP cameras, But if you just wont it to work everytime never crash like a PC with a web cam attched, get some Axis stuf
I dont work for axis or anything but i have learned the hard way, Get axis stuf it works..........
John

My camera is a Gadspot (http://www.vcenter.net) - its the NC-1000, and its mounted at the bottom of my smallish garden in my huge dog kennel, so I can watch my doggies sleeping while I'm at work
I guess my other option is to use some camera software on a PC to capture the stream from the camera and re-distribute it - but I just wanted to be able to connect directly, and was hoping some software on the Universal would be able to display what is essentially quite a simple thing...

applecom said:
I use Axis IP Cameras, and Video servers, and a program on my XDA exec by axis to view my cameras, Its excellent been useing it for ages, i can even control the PTZ cameras i have
You can pick up Axis 2100 cameras on ebay for £80, I have used other types of IP cameras, But if you just wont it to work everytime never crash like a PC with a web cam attched, get some Axis stuf
I dont work for axis or anything but i have learned the hard way, Get axis stuf it works..........
John
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what is PTZ?
what is the name of the sw you use to connect to your camera that runs on PPC? whic resolution is truly useable?
thanks for your answer

Isn't there any possibility to create the actual picture as a *.jpg every one or more seconds and serve that as a Port 80-Server?
Most webcams do that and in the java(script)-code is the adress of that *.jpg!
You have to put the adress in the PIE and if you want to see a new picture you renew the page.
That works on most webcams i know.

CouchPotato said:
Isn't there any possibility to create the actual picture as a *.jpg every one or more seconds and serve that as a Port 80-Server?
Most webcams do that and in the java(script)-code is the adress of that *.jpg!
You have to put the adress in the PIE and if you want to see a new picture you renew the page.
That works on most webcams i know.
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Any ideas what the .jpg image would be called?

timetex said:
My camera is a Gadspot (http://www.vcenter.net) - its the NC-1000...
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I think you can do that with the Exec!
Technical Description of NC-1000
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>Motion Detection Supports Upload Images to FTP & EMAIL
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> Remote Record and Snapshot Control on Web
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-Compression: JPEG Image, MJPEG Video
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System Requirements
-Operation system: Windows 98/Me/NT/2000/XP, Linux, Mac
-Browser: Microsoft IE5.x, 6.x or above, or Netscape
Navigator 5.x or above
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You can get snapshots this way for shure!

I found it
Thanks couchpotato.
http://<camera.address>/Jpeg/CamImg.jpg
(which gives a single image)
http://<camera.address>/GetData.cgi
(which supposedly gives me a stream... but doesn't)
But at least the single image bit works for now. If I could find a way to get the page in IE to autorefresh (like Opera on the PC can be triggered to autoreload a page every x seconds / minutes) then this would certainly do the trick

I went thru half of it.. working ok..
web cam

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web cam
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What does this software do? FTP output of the pocket PC to an FTP site?

Doh...
Of course that's what it does.
It works OK
http://www.timetex.plus.com/webcamimage.jpg
(that's using the small cam on the front, rather than the main 1.3mp cam)
However, its not releasing from the stored shot and going back to the preview, so it needs manual intervention to keep sending the images up...
I'll see if I can tweak it

Have a look at www.axis.com, software and then ACE (axis camera explorer) download the PPC version ( works fine on Exec) there is a demo camera to look at.
I use it everyday here to view our cameras and video server, And i can control the PTZ pan / tilt /zoom as well
John

Re: Using webcam.. try windows media encoder
asci said:
mcse17 said:
Hi,
Try this, download windows media encoder (free from MS) , then choose to stream your webcam, it will ask you for port no etc (just choose 80 if you can) then you should be able to connect by typing mms://(your ip) (port) into windows media player on exec and voila.. or I have set my server as a media sever and view videos Ive made on my exec.. its pretty cool.. same principal (sort of)... 8)
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Hi
it works but on PC and not on my JJ...
why?
:wink:
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WHEN YOU GOTO MEDIA PLAYER ON PPC THEN GOTO OPEN URL - THEN TYPE MMS://YOUR IP ... THIS SHOULD WORK NO PROBLEM.. IVE BEEN USING IT FOR A WHILE NOW..

I have port 1010 open on my machine, running Windows Media encoder and running a webcam stream from my machine.
My IP address is paired with www.dyndns.org, but I still can't get access to the stream from WME10 on my Exec using the following:
mms://www.URLname.com:1010
When I open the URL, I get:
"Cannot find the file. The file might have been removed, renamed or deleted. If the file is stored on a server or a removable storage card, the server might not be available."
Anyone got any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

Live streaming FROM Hermes ??

OK, I did search thru Google & didn't see any thread about live streaming from Hermes( besides this ones & alike: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320573 , http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288857 )
Is there any application out there to use Hermes as live video cam to stream video(using 3G/Wi-Fi) directly from Hermes itself without using a PC? Basically u'd be able to 'telecast' in real time... I guess, then it'll need something like pocket Y! msngr(if there's any, "PPC-Skype" don't have any options to carry video) or similar to carry live video streaming out...
Does Windows Live for WM6 have an option to carry vids?
Any thoughts/help is highly appreciated

You mean 2 people w/ Hermes on a video chat? That would be interesting, isnt that what the video dialer is for? I want to know if something like this works..

The Hermes doesn't have anything approaching sufficient hardware to be able to capture AND encode AND broadcast in realtime, or even anything approaching that... The only reason things like CoolCamera work is because the PC's doing half the work, the phone's just passing a raw stream via its AS connection.
Plus, with the majority of 3G networks in the world today, you'd have to connect the device to some kind of third-party broadcasting node, because nearly all 3G networks' connections to the web are via a single (or single block) of IP addresses, so all devices coming from the 3G network are effectively NATted. I guess you could audio stream, because Skype (sorta) works, but you'd probably need to write software - something like a bespoke encoder for Windows Media Services, which could connect to a WMS streaming server and do audio only. There's no way I could see the Hermes doing video, even with divine intervention!

http://www.comvu.com/
They are in the midst of updating their website.
This produces very so-so video, but does work.
Good luck

Many Thanx
armedmetallica said:
http://www.comvu.com/
They are in the midst of updating their website.
This produces very so-so video, but does work.
Good luck
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Many Thanx 'armedmetallica'
Comvu.com sounds interesting...
A Q: I understand that there's a software to install on PPC but how someone on a PC (on other end) watch the particular live stream from Comvu servers?
Thanx again pal.

View my PC Camera

There is any free and good program that I can see my web camera with my diamond (NOT using the orb becouse I have very slow PC and ORB need strong one)
Thanks!!!

I use webcamxp
http://www.webcamxp.com
You can watch multiple webcams/ipcams trough internet; they also have a wm6 viewer application
I lighter version is webcastxp
http://www.darkwet.net/main.asp?page=webcastxp/home.html&left=webcastxp/left.html

BBC Iplayer on Diamond

Tip: Make BBC Iplayer work on your Windows Mobile phone (info found elsewhere)
The BBC’s iPlayer service has been rolling out and supporting more and more smartphones, but as they do it on a device by device basis that has left the varied ecosystem of Windows Mobile at a distinct disadvantage.
Fortunately we have more control than most over our devices, and the following hack will allow the video streaming service to work on any device.
You need to change the user agent in Opera Mobile to spoof the Samsung Omnia, the only supported Windows Mobile phone.
The instructions are as follow:
Run Opera
In the address bar enter opera:config (no http://)
Scroll down to User Prefs and click
Scroll down to Custom User-Agent and at the end of the pre-filled text add sgh-i900
Scroll down some more and press Save. You will get a prompt which suggests you may need to reset the phone, but for this you don’t.
Check you have HTC Streaming Media Installed - If you do point your browser to http://www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/iplayer/ and enjoy. The video opens in HTC Streaming Player on HTC smartphones.

Thanks a lot edna.road, just tried it and it works perfectly

I saw this aswell, here - http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1794
Just flashed to Dutty's V4 so going to try it when i get it back on

Tried this before christmas, but I prefer watching Iplayer through Skyfire. The latest beta works just as good. You can watch any flv site through it such as youtube etc so

The iplayer now works with the HTC Touch HD and looks great, is that getting a higher quality stream than the version for the sgh-900i?
I have tried using the same user agent as the HD
‘HTC Touch HD T8282 Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)' on my standard HTC Diamond but get the message device not supported.
How is the iplayer webpage seeing the difference between my Diamond and a HTC Touch HD?

I have got the BBCi Player page to work in opera but when I click on a video it switches to streaming media then sits on buffering 0% then says can't find network!
This is on my work wifi though will try again when I am at home.

Works for me....
It works fine for me, though only at home via WiFi. Can't get it working via 3G, but may be it's not designed to?

Yeah If I have wifi turned off it asks to turn it on, but I only get GPRS or Edge at work, It may work On HSDPA

skilty said:
Tried this before christmas, but I prefer watching Iplayer through Skyfire. The latest beta works just as good. You can watch any flv site through it such as youtube etc so
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You also mean redtube youporn etc etc?? lol

I managed to change the setting in 'opera:config' and now the BBC iPlayer page loads fine; only problem nothing will play and every time I click a link I get this box *see attached img*
Any ideas ? ? ? ? ? ?
Thanks

kaos_king said:
you also mean redtube youporn etc etc?? Lol
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lol exactly!

I have got this to work with HSDPA, it streams pretty well.
Unfortunately the method is far from perfect.
After doing the above fix, connect to wifi and find the stream you want.
Start it playing and then pause, go back to comm manager, turn wifi off and phone on, it should continue streaming fine.
Not ideal though I know.

This suggests that it's the beeb blocking it rather than the carrier. Hmmm.
("Hmmm" was just to make me sound wise - I have no fracking clue what to do next)

Are there any WM phones where it's known to work over the air?

BBC now reports native support HTC Touch HD, over wifi+3G. Does anyone have the User Agent for the HD, as would like to try it on my Diamond
http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/about_iplayer/mobile_phone

hmmn still only wifi for us diamond users on orange it seems, this is taken from theabove link check paragraph 3:-
What each heading means
Download TV programmes over wifi to watch later without needing an internet connection. If you download a programme, you can watch or listen to it for 7 days. Devices that don't currently support the digital rights management (DRM) system that we use for BBC iPlayer cannot download programmes to watch or listen to later.
Watching TV programmes while connected to the internet over a wifi connection.
Watching TV programmes while connected to the internet over a 3G connection - *only available on 3 and Vodafone networks at present.
Radio - listen again or listen live to programmes while connected to the internet.
Sideload - transfer a programme from your PC to your mobile device to play without needing an internet connection.

Good tip but I'd prefer it to work through HSDPA. Any chance of this happening soon?

Broadcast TV Tuner signal to my Touch Pro 2 (like Orb, but working...)?

I was curious to find out if anyone is using anything out there to broadcast their TV Tuner signal to their Touch Pro 2 and it's working...
I have tried Orb, ever since they updated for Windows 7, and although I can get it to work using my laptop, I can't get my Touch Pro 2 to connect. Whenever I try and get the signal to my CorePlayer, it hangs without a signal.
I wouldn't use it enough to get SlingBox, but MyTinyTV that worked wonderfully on my HTC Wizard hasn't been supported in a couple years.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Dell Dimension
Intel Quad Core 2 Duo Q6600 2.40GHz
32-bit 4.00GB RAM (3.25 usable)
Windows 7 Ultimate
All-in-Wonder HD
Linksys E2000

I will donate to someone whom can get this going!

orb and core player
I've found that when using orb some setting need to be tweaked on coreplayer. go to menu>tools>setting then select the network page and set user agent spoof to never. that makes streaming videos work for me. not sure about live TV though.

Who is using me?

Try streaming through Windows Media Player or Streaming Media both are allready installed and seem to work fine for me.
With Streaming Media the video does seem to come in smaller but you can change the buffer up to 25 seconds so sometimes it worth it.
Change stream format in the orb web interface on your phone to:
.asx - for Windows Media Player
or
3GP-AAC/RTSP - for Streaming Media

hey i got SBP TV
its working great u can try this and you do not need to register and full license

Have you tried using pie (via IE toggle) then to orb?

SUNNY954 said:
its working great u can try this and you do not need to register and full license
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Thanks! I'll try that soon.
segadc said:
Have you tried using pie (via IE toggle) then to orb?
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I have.

SUNNY954 said:
its working great u can try this and you do not need to register and full license
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Yeah, I just realized that this is a TV application. I don't care about all these garbage stations that broadcast online. I want my FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS, and others...

My 2cents..
I would personally start with webcam stream apps and set my TV card as the active cam, set the pc up as a webserver/streamer with some obscure port #, set the stream-cam app to stream 2 disk, and then connect to it by direct IP : port with a suitable player on the phone.
I've done this a long time back PC to PC so a friend and I could watch TV together from seperate locations. I searched around and was able to find free apps to set the whole thing up. There are a few webcam apps that have a built in stream server, you can likely find one if you look around.

I got live streaming TV to my TP2 from my computer at home using orb, I use it to watch the world cup when @ work
make sure that when you setup orb, it is able to scan all your channels
then from there you login to mycast.orb.com from Pocket IE and go to TV > guide > then select a channel and hit play
you can set what type of stream orb will beam by going to the orb website in your pc, going to settings and you can pick different stream types so that it will work with whatever media player you chose