Wizard problem BT GPS without GSM phone - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

I have a problem with my MDA Vario and TomTom Navigator 5.21.
I got it working with my GPS receiver (Holux GR-230) via Bluetooth COM 7.
But I have a second phone with car kit. So I switched the GSM/Phone function off on my MDA Vario and wanted to navigate. But TomTom indicates that it couldn't find a GPS device. So I removed and paired my Holux receiver again. 'New Partnership' could find my Holux receiver. But TomTom again couldn't find my GPS device. I checked if Bluetooth is on.
When I switched the GMS/Phone function on on my MDA Vario everything worked well again. TomTom can find the GPS.
So it seems that if you switch off the GSM/Phone function TomTom can't find the GPS device.
What can I do to get it working without het GSM/Phone function on?

I take it you had switched it into "Flight Mode".
This disables ALL the radio functions and as a result, you are left with a PDA that has no GSM, BT or WiFi.
I suppose the only way to use the unit without any GSM is to take the SIM card out.
I am sure someone will come along and correct me on that, LOL

If you go in the communications manager, you should be able to shut off just the Phone and keep bluetooh and/or WiFi on. I have not tested the ability to use bluetooth in this fashion, but I can't imagine why you couldn't.

Workaround found
Thanks for the reactions.
I am able to shut just the Phone off and keep bluetooh on (by using the communications manager). I even swithced off the Phone and left Bluetooth on and then started TomTom. But it can't find the GPS device anymore.
Luckily I remembered that with a dual SIM only the first SIM that connects with the GSM network has the connection.
So my workaround is:
1. Switch off the Phone off my MDA Vario
2. Turn my other GSM on
3. Switch the Phone on off my Mda Vario
And so I can use my other GSM for phone calls (via my carkit) and use my MDA Vario for Navigation.
Still curious though about how I could get it working otherwise.

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Bluetooth and GPS problem

Hi all, I bought a Qtek S100 and tried to connect it with my BT GPS receiver (Falcom Navi 1). It didn't work properly and I suddely lost te BT icon on the lower right hand side of the S100. It hasn't re-appeared even after several soft resets?
Does the S100 have the sae BT problems with GPS as the xdaII had?
I use BT GPS and the only problem so far is that I have to re-pair them sometimes.
Try Start->Settings->Connections->Bluetooth to get to the same screen as you would get to by clicking the BT icon.
THanks for the reply. Which BT GPS do you use? and with what Navigation program?
Holux GR-231 and TomTom3.
I am having problem with Bluetooth GPS as well. I have 2, one is iTrek Bluetooth GPS and one is ArcoreTech Bluetooth GPS.
Since I have tried both GPS units, I am pretty sure it's i-Mate JAM's Bluetooth problem.
Instead of upgrading my ROM to 1.06.00 WWE, I should have tried it out with version 1.03 first. I upgraded from 1.03 to 1.06 as soon as my JAM finished charging. BIG MISTAKE!
I ended up usiing "Pocket Bluetooth Tool" to designate COM8 (for example) for my GPS. However, if I happen to soft reset or turn of Bluetooth, I would have to pair it again.
I read many article's on the internet and the problem seems to point to the MS Bluetooth stack (instead of Widcomm used in my i-Mate PDA2K - and by the way PDA2K works perfectly with my GPS units).
Hopefuly i-Mate will address this problem during the next ROM update.
So how come Loboman's holux works ok?
Loboman are you using a different BT stack?
I would like to guess that he uses ROM version 1.03...
Jazzedout said:
So how come Loboman's holux works ok?
Loboman are you using a different BT stack?
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I use 1.06.00. All i do is that I tap on the BT icon, choose 'Devices', tap 'New...' and waits until the phone finds the GPS. Then I add it and pair it with the passkey. Then I had to scan all serial ports using a program that Holux supplies (I bet it works with any BT reciever though) to find out that my port was COM5 and finally I set my programs to use COM5. As I previously stated, I do have to re-pair them sometimes for some reason, but I can live with that.
I previously had an Acore unit which worked ok with my iPAQ 5450 (also MS BT stack) in WM2003. It took me all the way from northern Sweden to Barcelona in Spain last summer
I have not used Pocket Bluetooth Tool, but I have read about it. I think that it works without it so far. I also leave my BT on 24/7 since I don't think that it uses too much battery.
I hope things work out for you.
Absolutley no problems with Rom 1.01.01 Ger and Navilock BT-308 GPS-Mouse
I am not sure if the following has anything to do with Bluetooth but at least it cured my Bluetooth vs. GPS problem, for now.
On Club i-Mate's ROM update page, I found out that if the radio version is 1.10, then I am NOT suppose to apply the camera patch. After I uninstalled it, my JAM seems to work better with Bluetooth GPS units. My biggest problems were:
1. Once I soft reset my JAM, I have to re-pair my GPS units.
2. PrymeNav software took a long time to scan for GPS - and crashes sometimes when I designate already-scanned port.
3. Unable to hold two paired GPS units in Bluetooth Device List (though only used on at a time).
I have played with it after I uninstalled the camera patch and to this morning my GPS units still function well. Another key is to turn on the GPS unit and make sure it is linked (as indicated by its LED) - then turn on the GPS software. That way the hardwares are ensured to be linked.
As a side bonus, now I can perform Bluetooth Activesync on my Mac (via PocketMac software). However, I still require Pocket Bluetooth Tool installed on my JAM.
Weird!

Tom Tom XDA problem

Hi all,
Just go the xda through work, and even though i have got the new version of tom tom of their website (5.2) for ppc, when loaded and docked in my cradle, it cant sem to get the GPS to receive!?!?! anyone else had this problem?
I have an O2 XDA Exec and its working fine with the TomTom 5.2 software. I got some very useful info from http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=6 ..... basically a post on there advised setting up an outgoing com port to the BT GPS device (I used Com0) ... this is found under Start>Settings>Connections>Bluetooth>ComPorts (after you have paired the BT device of course).
In TomTom you then select "Other Bluetooth GPS" in the GPS options screen, select the Com port set previously, and away you go.
I hope this helps
I bought a 32-channel QStarz GPS receiver from eBay, cracking little thing it is. I had problems getting it going though initially - what I had to do was setup a pairing, which was a little tricky as TT didn't want to behave.
Basically, TT tries to establish a serial connection whenever I open it. As TT loaded, just before it went into the TT interface, It showed a dialog box with all my serial connections in - I think it might've been the device pairing screen, but I've not been able to find it again... What I did was pick the gps receiver's serial port device entry I'd previously set up, select it, check the box to tell TT to always connect to this device by default, and then hit enter - all before TT managed to load into the interface. It took me a couple of goes, and I'm sure there's an easier way to do this (I don't think I was even supposed to see this dialog screen ) but now it works perfectly. I don't have to establish the Bluetooth connection to the GPS receiver, TT does that (and it'll even turn the Bluetooth on and off if it's not already on for me). However, I did have to choose Other NMEA GPS from the device options, and then tweak my COM port settings (I found a scant piece of information regardingthe fact that it should be something like COM5 for incoming data and COM6 for outgoing data, you would do well to doublecheck the TomTom site's FAQs for this info). There's a couple of seconds lag whilst TT correctly detects the device and begins to latch onto GPS sats (it says "No Compatible GPS Device Detected!", and then changes to something like "No GPS Signal Detected"... And then starts picking up sats.
This is all with TT5.0, by the way.
This document will be very useful.. principal is the same for most GPS Receivers..
http://www.parrot.biz/ressources/CK3400_Help_Files/Imate JASJAR - TOMTOM Mobile 5 - 2.01.pdf
Not sure if you are trying to receive through a Bluetooth GPS receiver - if you are, this worked for me (first poston the page);
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...ostorder=asc&highlight=tomtom+5+gps&start=100
Thanks for your help guys, but i meat to say i am using a wired GPS the small square official Tom Tom one, hard wired in to my cradle.
I can open the software and everything, but it just says, cant find GPS, the green light flashes on my GPS, but thats all it does.
Help!
Ok, so you're using a wired receiver.. That helps to know. You should be able to choose TomTom Wired GPS or Other Wired GPS, and it should just... work. If it doesn't, choose the nearest chocie to your receiver, and go into the Advanced settings (if the option button is available) - if so, doublecheck what your COM port settings are.
Where did you buy the cradel from, I just got ripped off to the tune of £48 off ebay due to the cradle not actually passing the srl connection through, all it does is provide power for a Bluetooth GPS Receiver out of the port on the side.
I think I've heard othe rpeople saying that wired GPS receivers will not work with the Universal. Can anyone confirm this?
What you have heard is correct the mini USB on the Exec WILL NOT accept a GPS connection, you need a bluetooth device for this to work - Mike
Tony B - that sounds like the cradle i am using - jasjar or jamjar something like that!
I have put my wired GPS straight in to the side, and nothing!!
think you might have got it mate!
hi there
i am using the wired gps with mda pro tomotm car cradle
tomtom software working like i can start the tomotm and see the setting etc
now when i connect the tomtom wired gps via rj11 in cradle but i can not recieve gps signal
device says "no gps device"
please help
Regrads
Gugi

Problem with Qstarz BT GPS and Vario II

I have just purchased a Qstarz BT-Q818 GPS Receiver and I am attempting to use this with my Tmobile Vario II.
I do not appear to be establishing a BT connection.
I turn on the GPS receiver and then turn on BT on the Vario II and proceeed thru the pairing process. The Device iBT-GPS is found and I appear to pair to as the passkey of 0000 is recognised. I select "Serial Port" from the list of Services and then have selected COM8 for a New Outgoing Port.
At this point the Bluetooth icon on the receiver is flashing every 5 seconds implying it is in power saving mode. (is this no BT connection?)
I start GoogleMaps and select Track Location (GPS). A message appears "GPS Starting" and then I receive an error page stating the GPS Device cannot be found'.
I have re-paired the Receiver many times, the unit is fully charged. I have no other BT devices paired.
I've done a search and see that many people are successfully using a QSTARZ receiver with TomTom. is the issue with GoogleMaps or more basic with Bluetooth pairing itself.
Any help will be much appreciated.
It's Google Maps
I have just got the Qstarz BT-818 and am very happily usining it with TTN 5.21 on my Vario II. Very Very happy with it in fact - I get 8-11 Sats whilst the receiver is in my glovebox!!!.
I've never managed to get GoogleMaps to recognise my either Qstarz or my previous BT GPS.
One thing worth mentioning is that COM8 is the one the Wireless modem uses. So if you want to use the Wireless Modem pick any other COM (I use COM4).
Vodafone 1605 and iBT-GPS
Hi Mike,
Did you have any luck with the Bluetooth pairing ?
I just received my iBT-GPS receiver this morning and cannot get it to work at all. The Bluetooth side seems to be in sleep mode (1 flash per 5 secs). If I turn the iBT-GPS receiver off and then on again, it goes into permanent blue LED mode (no BLuetooth link established) and the GPS (orange LED) locks and starts to flash. If I turn on the Vodafone 1605 the blue LED starts to flash at the sleep mode rate (1 per 5 secs) and the GPS (orange LED) lock goes out and stays out. I never seem to get the Bluetooth active mode where the blue LED flashes at 1 per 2 secs. Yet the Vodafone 1605 says the iBT-GPS device is in the paired list ? Set at COM 0 both in BTS and in GPS Program Port on Vodafone 1605. Also set manually to 112500 bauds. The manual says that during pairing I should be offered an 'SPP Slave' option from the PDA device. With the Vodafone 1605 I am only being offered a COM Port selection. Is that the issue here ?
Anyone out there using the two devices working happily together ? The user manual refers to a piece of iBT-GPS GPS receiver test software - but says nothing about what it is called or where to get it. I somehow suspect the iBT-GPS receiver is working OK but there is some handshaking issue between it and the Vodafone 1605 - or Windows Mobile 6 Professional ??
Thanks,
Richard
It's now OK
No reply - so I'll reply to myself and maybe give some other user some help in the process.
It's now working. Seems that if I used 'auto configuration' of Com ports from within the GPS application software (GPS Tuner) and also used the 'Stop/Start GPS' from within the software, then it 'kicked' the receiver into operation.
All is now OK and the combination of Vodafone 1605 (running Windows Mobile 6 Professional) and iBT-GPS receiver works fine.
Hopes this helps someone out there.
Regards
Richard (zorpie)

Connect 2 Bluetooth Devices GPS+Heahset at the same time

I there any way to let our BlueAngle to connect GPS and BlueTooth headset at the same time I use WM6 already with Garmin Mobile 10 (10x) but can't used head set at the same time anyone have some idea to solved this problem
This is indeed a weird issue that is still occuring, the only 'work around I found' is to make two outgoing connections in order to connect them both, usually you have the headset connect towards the blue angel, so in inbound connection, if you connect your BA towards your headset, so in the bt menu really select to connect it, and than connect your bt antenna, this is no problem, I've tried all myself already to resolve this as I use this a lot and no other solution up to know, tried changing registry where you have like max connections on bt and all, but all that doesn't work
Grtz,
Tom
Prille said:
This is indeed a weird issue that is still occuring, the only 'work around I found' is to make two outgoing connections in order to connect them both, usually you have the headset connect towards the blue angel, so in inbound connection, if you connect your BA towards your headset, so in the bt menu really select to connect it, and than connect your bt antenna, this is no problem, I've tried all myself already to resolve this as I use this a lot and no other solution up to know, tried changing registry where you have like max connections on bt and all, but all that doesn't work
Grtz,
Tom
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Please explain how you did this?
Thanks in advance
touchu said:
I there any way to let our BlueAngle to connect GPS and BlueTooth headset at the same time I use WM6 already with Garmin Mobile 10 (10x) but can't used head set at the same time anyone have some idea to solved this problem
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I'm not very sure but if you use HELMI_BA_WM5_BT1.7_TEST.CAB it works, i use BT GPS and a Car handsfree and is able to receive GPS data on my BA and also instruction from BA to handsfree and when there is incoming call i still get it.
wilsacan said:
I'm not very sure but if you use HELMI_BA_WM5_BT1.7_TEST.CAB it works, i use BT GPS and a Car handsfree and is able to receive GPS data on my BA and also instruction from BA to handsfree and when there is incoming call i still get it.
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Can you post the file? I've the same problem...
anilkaparthi said:
Please explain how you did this?
Thanks in advance
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Well basically it's rather easy for my as I use Tom Tom and once Tom Tom is powered on it will activate the BT and connect any device already linked to your BA,
So I power my BT car kit, but don't activate my BT on my BA, I wait for 10sec and then my car kit makes a sound like it can't connect (because my BT isn't activated) and so he stops looking but remains powered on, then I just power on tomtom, this activates my BT function and connects my car kit and tom tom antenna immediatly, dunno how this comes but he always does this,
Several versions of tomtom already installed and always works like a charm...
i had a similar problem...
the work around i found is that connect audio first and then connect gps. it'll always work
Have to try this too
I will try these methods tonight then will report back here later on thank a lot for all good ideas here
Confirm
Well Done I found the solution even it not so convinience but it work out
1. Turn Off BlueTooth on BA
2. Turn on BT Headset , GPS
3. Wait for a while
4. Open GPS program for my case is GARMIN MOBILE XT
4.1 MOBILE XT turn on bluetooth then it will link to both device without registry edit at all
5. Enjoy the show and drive safely
I will keep update on testing with these 2 devices.
actually i use garmin que with gpsgate,
b4 starting garmin que .... the audio had to be connected..
It works for me, I use TomTom bluetooth GPS.
The trick is to start bluettoth first manually and then GPS program. Bluetooth headset can be started any time.
wilsacan said:
I'm not very sure but if you use HELMI_BA_WM5_BT1.7_TEST.CAB it works, i use BT GPS and a Car handsfree and is able to receive GPS data on my BA and also instruction from BA to handsfree and when there is incoming call i still get it.
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Really? after i patched this cab, i can't use handsfree any more, but only stero available
Prille said:
Well basically it's rather easy for my as I use Tom Tom and once Tom Tom is powered on it will activate the BT and connect any device already linked to your BA,
Several versions of tomtom already installed and always works like a charm...
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What GPSsettings do you use, program and hardware port?
Thanks.
After use 2 BT GPS + BT head set for almost a week everything work great but the only thing you have to aware is do not move one of the device out of range otherwise you will lose the connection from them even you have put them back in range. I notice that by I put headset with me then leave the phone and GPS inside the car after I come back the HeadSet can not be pair with the phone anymore have to turn off and then turn on the BT in our BlueAngle again. However there is only 1 problem i can found out.
New way
Ok I found more easy way I use program camm btIO V0.6 from www.silentservices.de or you can download from
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-btio-bluetooth-tray-icon.html
then just tab the icon to turn on/off bluetooth
however I also use another program call CicleBT then map the button of camera which i don't use much to turn on/off Bluetooth in case have some problem to connect to GPS MOBILE 10x
Hardware port setting also help me sometion no need to turn off bluetooth before enter Mobile XT
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardSettings_GPS
Enjoy

Tom tom and BT GPS w/out phone on

Ok so I have upgraded from my old herms to a Touch Pro, however I cant let go of my hermes was an awsome phone.
I want to use it for a dedicated GPS. I have tom tom 6 installed and a BT GPS reciver all which work perfectly when the phone is turned on (sim card inserted) but when the phone is turned off from comm manager or the sim card is removed the GPS wont lock on for whatever reason.... this is crazy as BT on the phone seems to work fine I can pair it with the BT GPS reciver but wont lock on. As soon as the phone is on bang gets a lock and it all works as it should.
Is there any way around this?

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