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Hi there guys, its been a while since posting but I have some great news regarding using multiple bluetooth devices in the car.
A few weeks ago I purchased a Navman 4410 GPS unit for my XDAII. With the new "72" rom the Navman worked perfectly with my XDAII straight out of the box over bluetooth.
Today I installed a Sony Ericsson HBC-30 bluetooth hands free carkit (Which also worked perfectly out of the box). I was interested to know if I could have the GPS unit operating and have the handsfree carkit working at the same time.
I was simply sitting in the carpark, with the GPS connected and onscreen, then I used my other phone to call my XDAII... the call came up on screen (interrupting the GPS screen) I pressed the "answer" button on the Sony Ericsson handsfree kit, and the call came through perfectly!
Once finished with the call I pressed the "hangup" button on the handsfree kit, and then a few quick taps on the screen returned me to the GPS navigation screen.
Certainly not perfect, however it appears that the bluetooth issues are finally getting resolved, and allowing us to begin using the XDAII as it was intended.
Hi Colonel, thanks for your update, it is comforting to know that they are finally sorting out BT problems.
Is there any way to get the phone screen to automatically close after finishing a call? so I don't have to manually close it to get back to my GPS screen?
No I dont think you can. Not without altering the GPS software to continually make sure its "on top" of other windows... but then you'd have a problem with seeing the "incoming call screen" as the GPS software would try to jump on top of it.
I'd be so happy simply if I could make HCB30 and Blutrek G2 headset work side by side on my Qtek...
points are:
1-where coul i get that da***n 1.72 rom for my xda 2
2-where could i get the g2 HS in italy(even worlwide...) or all over the web at reasonable price
help a newbie...
Kolonel,
I can confirm your experience as far as BT GPS is concerned.
I however still have one issue to solve: When the MDAII (=XDA2) can't connect to the GPS (BT off, GPS off, GPS out of reach) and I start TomTom3, TomTom3 keeps searching for the GPS which results in a almost freezing MDA2.
Using rom 1,72 from Qtek I bonded the BT GPS and confirmed the question about assigning a com port.
In TomTom I assigned this (COM5) com port.
All works fine except for the issue mentioned.
Does this sound familiar?
Clues?
BTW in the BT settings screen there is nothing shown about the assigned com port (just free space next to the two lines that should indicate the in- and outbound com ports). I found COM5 to be assigned to BT by trial and error . . .
edsub said:
Kolonel,
I can confirm your experience as far as BT GPS is concerned.
I however still have one issue to solve: When the MDAII (=XDA2) can't connect to the GPS (BT off, GPS off, GPS out of reach) and I start TomTom3, TomTom3 keeps searching for the GPS which results in a almost freezing MDA2.
Using rom 1,72 from Qtek I bonded the BT GPS and confirmed the question about assigning a com port.
In TomTom I assigned this (COM5) com port.
All works fine except for the issue mentioned.
Does this sound familiar?
Clues?
BTW in the BT settings screen there is nothing shown about the assigned com port (just free space next to the two lines that should indicate the in- and outbound com ports). I found COM5 to be assigned to BT by trial and error . . .
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edsub,
Are you using "Bluetooth Tools"? Because I am not, i'm using the native bluetooth stack only.
I am using "Outbound" Com port 5 ONLY for my GPS. My 1.72 rom is the IMATE rom.
Im afraid that i'm not familiar with tomtom. So I cant help you there, sorry.
I am deliberately only using native MS bT stack.
I am only using COM5 for GPS too
What does the BT Settings show under
"Bluetooth Serial Port Setup"?
With me:
"Outbound COM port" checked, but after the colon is a "<not present>" shown.
"Inbound COM port" UNchecked, after the colon is a grayed-out "<not present>" shown.
Like i said I AM able to use the GPS via COM5.
Maybe this issue is a pure TomTom issue, I think your answer could clarify that.
edsub said:
I am deliberately only using native MS bT stack.
I am only using COM5 for GPS too
What does the BT Settings show under
"Bluetooth Serial Port Setup"?
With me:
"Outbound COM port" checked, but after the colon is a "<not present>" shown.
"Inbound COM port" UNchecked, after the colon is a grayed-out "<not present>" shown.
Like i said I AM able to use the GPS via COM5.
Maybe this issue is a pure TomTom issue, I think your answer could clarify that.
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Edsub, thats really weird... mine is:
"Inbound COM port:" UN checked, and after the colon is a grayed out "COM4"
"Outbound COM port:" checked, and after the colon is a black "COM5"
bluetooth
hi guys
im using imate 172 and tomtom 3 with a sony ericsson hb35 it works first time all the time with the standard stack. it works that good i even went and sold my carkit and just got a hold instead :lol:
@Kolonel Klink: I guessed it's strange. What ROM are you using exactly (OS & Extended).
I use the 1.72 Qtek rom with my own Extended Rom (wich is based on the Qtek ExtRom to which I added T-Mobile Nl customisations). I am sure there is nothing regarding Bluetooth in my ExtRom.
I heard from someone who uses the iMate 1.72 OS Rom (with his own cooked ExtRom) that he has the same results as you have.
Just trying to find to cause of this. Maybe I have to reflash to the iMate 1.72?? (shouldnt make a difference as both iMate and Qtek OS ROM's are the same 1.72.00WWE . . . .)
@freelockuk: Most interesting is the origin of your ExtRom. Arent there any Bluetooth enhancements in that ExtRom (like there were in the 1.60.36 T-Mobile NL ExtRom) that maybe make your 1.72 work better than mine concerning Bluetooth?
addition to prev post:
I noticed that there were two BT registry settings missing to get the assigned COMport show in BT Settings.
Also noticed another interesting value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dun]
With me this one is:
"port"="BSP9:"
In prev versions it was:
"port"="BSP4:"
Can anyone with a 1.72 ROM that has a BT GPS mouse working via SPP AND who can start Tom Tom without the BT GPS mouse 'connected' post their setting of this key??
Okay, i've not cooked my own extended rom. I'm using the stock standard one from iMate.
I did find something odd today. I went into an IT expo and I turned flight-mode on. When I was finished I left and turned flight mode off. Then got in my car. I tried to make a call and it didnt go thru the handsfree kit.
Weird! I had to repair the device. So I did... and it all worked fine again. So I turned flight mode back on then off, and I ended up with the same result. It appears to lose the pairing when you turn the flight mode on.
Very odd!
I still have not found a solution to the behaviour where TomTom locks up the MDA with is isnt able to connect to my BT GPS.
Today I found out that this same behavious accurs on devices (not just MDA, HP too) that use a serial (wired) GPS when they take the current off the GPS . . .
That means:
1. TomTom Navigator can't cope with the situation where it cant connect to the GPS that is installed
2. With me TomTom navigator is not able to use the Bluetooth protocol on its side to cope with the (for Bluetooth GPS quite usual) unavailability of the BT GPS.
Again: Can anyone post me some info on this :?: :?:
Especially the registry items under
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SerialPort]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dun]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dcn]
are of interest
@ Klink
Thanks for sharing your experiences, I'm watching them with interest.
Just wanted to as you about using your navman and the headset at the same time.
In your first post to this topic, you mentioned your 'carpark' test. I assume you weren't moving at the time, so the navman wasn't trying to give you directions.
What happens when you're driving along, getting instructions (ie. "turn left in 300m") from your navman, and the phone rings? Does the navman stop giving directions while you are talking on the phone using your BT handsfree? When you hang up does it resume giving directions again?
Thanks,
Hooligan
Emtact Trine BT GPS, Bluetrek G3 BT Headset
Like all of you my exprience is that it all works together.
But I've one problem. When navigating with TomTom and there is a incoming phone call and when I accept the call with my headset TomTom continues navigating but the sound of my QTEK2020 is muted during the call. So the instructions of TomTom cannot be heard.
I'm using plain MS BT Stack.
Regards,
Mark
This behaviour seems not the be dependent of the use of a BT headset. I have a carkit and during a call TomTom stays active in background. Sound of TomTom is muted however, which I find nice.
When the phone call is ended, TomTom starts talking again.(also nice)
first of all my nevigation program works great with the jabra 250 bt , it also mutes the program during a call is madeqreceived but :
there is anothe program that is called "ontime" that sends trqaffic status to the imate, using the gprs andthen calculates the fastest root( from junction to juction) and the problem is:
if i want to use buth progtams with royaltek gps bt rbt1000 they both need the com5 port fot bt.
to solve this problem one can use a prog called: "gpsgate" which makes a virtual port for the programs to use so u can use several program with one bt device.
for some it works only with bt tools, for others it doesnt work at all, gos knows why?!
but - if any1 needs a solution - here is one.
have a nice day , spark
QTEK 2020 - 1.72.00 WWE - 1.06.01
Back Pack - jabra 250 BT- royaltek rbt 1000 GPS BT - DESTINATOR3(LIKE TOM TOM 3) - soon will recieve sd 1gb*40
Spark, where did you get 'gpsgate'??
here is the link
http://franson.biz/gpsgate/download.asp
I recently purchased a bluetooth GPS receiver (branded as Fusion with X70 as the name on the back - purchsed from Polstar) and TomTom5 software but cannot get the two to work together.
I have bonded the receiver and set it as COM7 and I can choose that in TomTom5 as the COM port to use but it always says "No GPS Device!"
I have also downloaded and installed the BlueTooth Tools software but this hasn't helped either.
I have an o2 XDA2 and any help with this would be much appreciated.
I think mine is set to BT on com6. You must make sure the GPS receiver has a satellite signal before you try to configure tomtom (flashing light or whatever). Keep trying different settings, that's what I did
I think I have tried all the settings I can, I am beginning to wonder if i've got the correct version of TomTom5 installed! My device information says my platform is PocketPC and that is the version of TomTom5 I installed.
I have tried various settings and soft-rebooted my phone in the meantime after each change and tried without re-setting too!
This is getting rather annoying now
sorry, I'm using com5. Have you made sure you've got a satellite connection first.
Mine is version 5.000
When I turn on my GPS receiver I get two lights flashing, one to indicate that the bluetooth is sending a signal and the other to say that the device is receiving a GPS signal.
Try this...
Hi Dave,
Did you buy this via eBay? Couple of friends have bought from the same guy and neither worked, even though it seemed that they were (flashing lights, bonded etc). Both Polstar/Fuzion.
Anyway, if it won't connect via 'other bluetooth', try selecting 'other cabled device' and then select 4800 baud and your bluetooth com port.
Don't know why, but have had to do this with 3 different PDA's so far (2 XDA, 1 ipaq). It seems to work fine, although the data rate's a bit slow.
Any bluetooth gps I have has installed as com 5 when bonding, it asks if you wish to install serial profile and allocates com 5. I have noticed however that tomtom is very weird with its gps module, it keeps saying gps not found or signal lost etc and then I have to reselect other bluetooth and com 5 and even then sometimes I have to reinitialize the receiver before it is found. I always advocate the use of a wired gps if it is only required for vehicle use, it is less problematic, easy to configure and works 99.999999% of the time without problems.
If you run BT Manager and then check settings, it generally sets up as inbound com5 outbound com 6.
I have a Navman that behaved perfectly on Com 5 on TT3, on TT5 still behaves perfectly, but now uses Com 8 instead.
No idea why, don't really care that much -- it works.
I did buy the items from eBay and I am going to get back to the supplier (Polstar I believe) to see what I can fathom out.
Many thanks for all your advice, I have tried all options but still cannot get it to work so I will post a reply with the solution that works for me and hopefully it will work for others too.
No signal
Hi
the TomTom 5 has a new implementation, from the the TT3. It can manage the bluetooth connection. When you creat the connection with your pocket pc, by serial port, you must creat one connection of paired devices, as you created to your headset, bluethoot, of course. By the way, usually tt5 uses com 6 to connect with gps receivers.
The first time you configure your connection you must stay in position to receive signal from satelites, because its important to record all information from your gps receiver.
Regards
With regards to that marcusmodestus I think tonight, I will try and remove TomTom5 and delete my connection to the receiver and try installing again, from fresh.
Should I bond my reciever before or after I install? And should I run TomTom5 only with the bond in place?
bt gps
I bought one of these
set up as other cable on com5 but set baud rate at 38400 works fine 4 me
Success!
First, thank you all for helping me with this!
I have managed to successfully set it up now and here is the process...
Install TomTom5
Bond the device (I only had the option of Serial COM 7)
In TomTom5, change the preferences to use "Other Cable" and set the baud rate to 4800.
Magically I then get 5-6 satellites, a signal and an annoying American (which I will change to a nice english lady)
Thank you all again!
after hours of trial and error with tomtom5 and buzzmobile5.0 together with a xaiox wonde-xl bluetooth gps mouse (nemerix chipset) i learned the following:
it is recommended that you disable the gps manager of buzzmobile5.0 (not doing this has caused my device hang and auto soft reset some times). after that the following procedure worked for me:
1. pair your bluetooth gps device with your xda
2. assign a free outgoing com-port to that device (what com-port is best? please read text below.)
3. go to tomtom gps settings screen choose other bluetooth gps device
4. the assigned com-port number should appear in the next tomtom screen.
usually you should be done now and the connection should work, but i always had to delete the gps device in buzzmobiles bluetooth connection manager and had to re-pair it again, re-assign the com-port and re-start tomtom in order to get it work.
for any reason i then choosed to assign com8 as com-port for my gps mouse. and from this moment on tomtom5 was able to re-establish connections after switching of and on the gps or after switching xda on and off. i don't know what the exact reason is but choosing com8 was my solution to get tomtom5 working together with my gps on a comfortable way.
hope this helps others
regards
peter
I had this problem with Tomtom 5. No matter what I did it wouldn't work with my receiver.
I found that when I downloaded the 5.1 patch and installed it it worked fine with the GPS receiver set to COM6. Usually takes about 30 secs for the receiver to be found though. I think the update sorted out the Tomtom bluetooth support to a later version.
hi ...
how can i disable the gps manager of buzzmobile5.0?
thx mtc
settings --> system --> GPS
On the access tab uncheck the box
btw : I just saw that GPS hardware port shows com5 now. I'm sure I set both hard and software port to none cause somebody adviced this.
Anyway last week I didn't have to re-pair my gps in order for tomtom to find it ( which before I had to do every time I closed tt5). I've been messing in the registry to create extra com5 ports, maybe that's what caused it.
Anyways I now only have to switch on the gps and fire up tomtom and it immediately shows my position. Hope it will last..........
Hi all,
Just go the xda through work, and even though i have got the new version of tom tom of their website (5.2) for ppc, when loaded and docked in my cradle, it cant sem to get the GPS to receive!?!?! anyone else had this problem?
I have an O2 XDA Exec and its working fine with the TomTom 5.2 software. I got some very useful info from http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=6 ..... basically a post on there advised setting up an outgoing com port to the BT GPS device (I used Com0) ... this is found under Start>Settings>Connections>Bluetooth>ComPorts (after you have paired the BT device of course).
In TomTom you then select "Other Bluetooth GPS" in the GPS options screen, select the Com port set previously, and away you go.
I hope this helps
I bought a 32-channel QStarz GPS receiver from eBay, cracking little thing it is. I had problems getting it going though initially - what I had to do was setup a pairing, which was a little tricky as TT didn't want to behave.
Basically, TT tries to establish a serial connection whenever I open it. As TT loaded, just before it went into the TT interface, It showed a dialog box with all my serial connections in - I think it might've been the device pairing screen, but I've not been able to find it again... What I did was pick the gps receiver's serial port device entry I'd previously set up, select it, check the box to tell TT to always connect to this device by default, and then hit enter - all before TT managed to load into the interface. It took me a couple of goes, and I'm sure there's an easier way to do this (I don't think I was even supposed to see this dialog screen ) but now it works perfectly. I don't have to establish the Bluetooth connection to the GPS receiver, TT does that (and it'll even turn the Bluetooth on and off if it's not already on for me). However, I did have to choose Other NMEA GPS from the device options, and then tweak my COM port settings (I found a scant piece of information regardingthe fact that it should be something like COM5 for incoming data and COM6 for outgoing data, you would do well to doublecheck the TomTom site's FAQs for this info). There's a couple of seconds lag whilst TT correctly detects the device and begins to latch onto GPS sats (it says "No Compatible GPS Device Detected!", and then changes to something like "No GPS Signal Detected"... And then starts picking up sats.
This is all with TT5.0, by the way.
This document will be very useful.. principal is the same for most GPS Receivers..
http://www.parrot.biz/ressources/CK3400_Help_Files/Imate JASJAR - TOMTOM Mobile 5 - 2.01.pdf
Not sure if you are trying to receive through a Bluetooth GPS receiver - if you are, this worked for me (first poston the page);
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...ostorder=asc&highlight=tomtom+5+gps&start=100
Thanks for your help guys, but i meat to say i am using a wired GPS the small square official Tom Tom one, hard wired in to my cradle.
I can open the software and everything, but it just says, cant find GPS, the green light flashes on my GPS, but thats all it does.
Help!
Ok, so you're using a wired receiver.. That helps to know. You should be able to choose TomTom Wired GPS or Other Wired GPS, and it should just... work. If it doesn't, choose the nearest chocie to your receiver, and go into the Advanced settings (if the option button is available) - if so, doublecheck what your COM port settings are.
Where did you buy the cradel from, I just got ripped off to the tune of £48 off ebay due to the cradle not actually passing the srl connection through, all it does is provide power for a Bluetooth GPS Receiver out of the port on the side.
I think I've heard othe rpeople saying that wired GPS receivers will not work with the Universal. Can anyone confirm this?
What you have heard is correct the mini USB on the Exec WILL NOT accept a GPS connection, you need a bluetooth device for this to work - Mike
Tony B - that sounds like the cradle i am using - jasjar or jamjar something like that!
I have put my wired GPS straight in to the side, and nothing!!
think you might have got it mate!
hi there
i am using the wired gps with mda pro tomotm car cradle
tomtom software working like i can start the tomotm and see the setting etc
now when i connect the tomtom wired gps via rj11 in cradle but i can not recieve gps signal
device says "no gps device"
please help
Regrads
Gugi
HI all!this is my first post on the forum and i am glad to be here!
the problem is i cannot connect the holux 236 to the s100 or magician.
rom version is 1.12.00WWE.I tried pocket bluetooth tools but no luck.
the gps viewer gets nothing and also the destinator pn shows that no gps is available...
please help in any way...a walkthrough would be welcome since i am a newbie with ppc...
thanks in advance and keep up the good work!!
Hi, have you had any success with any other gps reciever opr is this the first one you try?
Suppose you have tries to enter the sw program and then configure the reciever with your magician? Is this where the trouble is?
this is the first one to use.
s100 gives com 5 to the gps but still no luck with ddestinator.states that no gps is present.
maybe a bluetooth stack problem?
could use all the help i can get..............
Ive just ordered a Holux 236 from Fleabay, should be here in a few days, will post my settings if I get it working ok
is the holux 236gps mini actually compatible with the QTEK S100??????????
Hi
Switch on Bluetooth and Pair the device using pass key 0000
Then DO NOT connect the device
Enter GPS Viewer 1.5 and select (Bluetooth) COM Port 6 (may be something else on your device). Select Open GPS and you should start getting data...
Hope that helps
The whole problem is that I cannot get my Qtek 9100 to show the spp slave service. This seems to be a qtek problem because none of my other BT devices will show it either. They showed fine with my old HP 6365. :?
I am not sure in that case... I cannot remember but does it use Widcomm Stack or M$?
I'm not sure what stack they use. I don't think it's Widcomm, because my HP BT keyboard won't connect and the reason is that it says there is no Widcomm stack. Go figure.
if thats the case,how do we solve it?third party software?change bluetooth stack?and if yes how.........?and i thought it would be plug n play...
OK, I have this BT receiver, works perfectly with my mini. Have you added any bluetooth stacks in addition the default ? When you search for devices does the Bt find the Holux? Is it switched on and charged? Don't know how new you are to bluetooth devices, but bear in Mind that a brand new Bt device out of the box may take up to 30 minutes to get a fix for the first time.
no new stacks added,device is charged.
gps pairs with s100,asks if it should create a port,i reply yes and i press finish.in the bluetooth menu at the com ports i press new outgoing port and i am asked to choose a device.i select holux,press next and nothing happens....so whats the deal here?in the bluetooth serial port setup i check the outbound com port:com 5 beforehand.so please tell me what am i doing wrong this time....is there something i didnt do or something i did...?
Ok, so the pairing came up fine. Thats one thing out of the way.
Now, forget selecting outgoing or incoming ports, its completely useless, doesn't work. I have TOMTOM and have selected "Other Bluetooth Device" and selected COM5, it works fine. Could be your com port is being occupied by other bluetooth such as Activesync.
Delete all paired devices, Go to Start, Settings, Bluetooth Setting and check that "Outbound COM port: COM5" is ticked only, click OK then try pairing your Holux and try again. It does work with the mini, I promise!!
I got a 236 slim and no problem with MS BT stack.
try to connect as explained by moghisi101, it should work
WELL i did try,trust me!at what point should the orange led light up???it should first communicate with the gps viewer and then start blinking or something?cause so far the orange led has not shown its colors........is this normal or do i have a faulty gps?????????????
Hmmm sounds like a faulty unit. Ive had my 236 for a couple of days now and it worked first time with Tomtom, just selected 'Other device' and 'Com5'
Im really impressed by this unit, even gets 5-6 satellites indoors !
When you turn the unit on the orange LED should be on all the time (searching) then after about 45 secs it should start to flash indicating that it has locked onto satellites. If you arent getting any light from the orange LED it does suggest a faulty unit
HTH
I have purchased the i-Geo Polstar and having problems with the setup. I have and Motorola XDA2 and Running TomTom 6.00. The XDA2 bonds with the Polstar but registers No GPS Device on my PDA. I have it set at – OTHER BLUETOOTH GPS RECEIVER - and connected to BT on Com 6 I get this error - Please establish a Bluetooth Connection between your GPS Receiver and you device. For details, see the documentation for your GPS receiver and your device. I have followed the instructions to the letter but just get error saying NO GPS DEVICE. The device is in the bonded Bluetooth list. I have spent a day on this one now and it’s driving me mad!
Regards Danny Blue
I have read loads of threads re bluetooth and GPS most of which seem not so recent. Turned of and on incoming beams.
Have you PAIR the GPS device with the XDA before starting the TomTom, if not then close the TomTom and search the Bluetooth device from your XDA, once its been found, pair it with the pairing key (usually 0000), once pairing is done, then try the TomTom.
GoodLuck
Sidd
Yes It is paired with device, it shows up in bonded devices but not in TomTom
Important:: Start->Settings->Connection->Beam and Switch-Off (un-tick).
1. Make sure that your XDA's bluetooth is OFF mode before to start the TomTom.
2. Then select "Other Bluetooth device-->Com port 6 (once you click on ComPort 6 notice for the BLUE light to lit-up) now your TomTom should minimise and the Bluetooth Browser should open for you to select the already paired bluetooth GPS device".
3. Select your already paired device and TICK-ON "always use this selected device".
Try point 2 on "Bluetooth com 5" if com 6 doesnt work.
Let me know
Sidd
Sidd YOU are a Star!
Yes I followed your instructions and BINGO it came to life. It worked on COM 5 Many thanks and if I am appearing anywhere near you please email me and I will sent you a couple of tickets, Kind Regards Danny Blue
www.dannyblue.co.uk
Not a problem, GoodLuck Danny & enjoy your journeys, by the way I am living in London, Middlesex, Pinner.
Sidd