All - the developer of this software is doing a marvelous job of implementing bug fixes and feature request. I have been testing this software extensively and the latest version 117 is starting to appear very promising. It is very useful if you do not mind living with a few limitations. This software provides Treo style chat messaging for the pocket pc. I am using this software because even if we get the new Treo750v wm5 version of chat messaging application it may still be buggy for our devices. Furthermore even the Treo threaded chat program had some limitations that could had been easily resolved if the software was provided by independent developer willing to take suggestions and implement them quickly.
Take a look at the software at http://www.trianglepowers.com/ppc6700/Default.aspx
If you use Expressmail or the any email push software that uses sms messages to notify push content do not use this program.
I think all of the threader apps are VERY good efforts. But most lack the main feature of being felt as if they are built in. That is what annoys me most... they are often sluggish and non responsive. It's a shame but Palm did it right with the Treo 600 and up. Hopefully the 750v will deliver with a workable cab file.
It has been slow over at TreoCentral for people to recieve their devices. However, they are working on trying to get the app off of it. Hopefully soon.
can i get how usefull this is? i read one part of it and it says you can txt a email account? i.e i could use my txt app as my email address to comunicate with diffrent people via "Txt emails"
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Hi,
the default behaviour of a SMS that can't be sent (no service or such) is to be moved into the "draft" folder and I have to resend from there manually. My communicater did automatically retry to send the SMS for a given time. Is there a piece of software that does the same for WM5?
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I'd also like to find such a program.
ron
same here... or even a free one that will schedule to send an SMS at a certain time
SMS Resend Available...Sort of
If any of you have access to the Palm Threaded messaging program (very sweet app!), this does just what you're looking for. I was disappointed initially with my Window Mobile devices in that nokia's middle of the road devices had this feature built in. Well the Palm messaging app solves all this an is a cool as heck program.
Good luck!!!
This app will be for all wm devices.
This is an ongoing project that is in need of some of you guys expertise. The rom of the treo 750v has been dumped and is in need of hacker and developers. The treo 750v has features that NO OTHER wm device does. Like the threaded sms messaging, which is sms in a chat style form.
http://www.palm.com/sg/products/smar...messaging.html is a little more about how it works and what it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758 is a thread in the xda-treo forum, but I feel need to be here due to the fact that it will be for all wm devices and is in need of developers and hackers.
Attached is the rom dump.
Thanks, Cody
in many countries you pay pr. sms much more then you'd pay to send text over grps so for most ppl msn, skype or other IM clients would do the same thing only much cheaper
I am really not sure what the hype is about. Haven't used SMS in a long time a with 100MB data package, I have to agree with Rudegar even the built in MSN messenger is better.
Any way I thought you should know that what you posted is not a ROM dump and cannot be used to extract the app.
Interesting you say that. If you have kids sms messaging is almost a requirement. It is extremely popular with the younger generation. I find myself using it more and more. I have friends that send over 3k sms messages in a month. A threaded sms app sure makes it a much better experience.
The rom dump thread was moved by someone over to the treo section for those wondering where it went. The dump is on the ftp server.
ftp.xda-developers.com
userid: xdaupload pw: xda
file: treo750vrompartial_bcaslis.zip (dump of Part00, Part01 and Part02 partitions)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758
I played with the rom dump yesterday. The messaging app does load, just seems to be missing some resources and/or registry entries that I'm not prepared to import right now (test machines all being used already).
It also appears to be fixed at 240x240, although that can probably be fixed later.
The rest of the rom - doesn't contain many intersting .exes, but I know hannip is interested in a number of the other devices and drivers installed. They don't appear to be device specific (c.f. many eten files are).
In the UK, data contracts are very expensive, and you get loads of SMS bundled in your contracts, so SMS makes sense. I don't IM from my phones. But both have their uses.
But I still can't see the fascination with threaded SMS. It'd be quite straight forward to program even if the treo app can't be sucked out.
V
PS Whoever dumped the roms to begin with, many thanks!
However, we may need to get an overview of the databases on the device as well, in case there are any custom databases. The speed dial plugin that has thus far been elusive relies on a call db. Either a device backup (using sprite etc) or a database dump would be useful to check. Just a guess, might lead to nothing.
Thanks vijay for all of your assistance! Good to hear that the sms app loads. I've been trying to get the a2dp dll's to work on my treo 700wx and 700w devices just to get my feet wet. Having some issues getting the dll's to load, but with your help I might figure this out yet.
The excitement for the 750 sms app over the other threaded sms apps out there is the clean integration with the os and today screen. I've tried other sms threader apps and they are buggy, don't grab messages when the pda is suspended, and leave copies of sms messages in poutlook. The one from triangle powers is a .net app and loads extremely slow because of it. It is expected that the palm written app will solve all of these problems. Plus it handles mms pictues, audio etc.
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
Rudegar said:
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
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Well, I'm someone who wants the SMS chat program badly.
Understand, it's not so much that you use like an IM program, you don't.
This is just a method by which to organize your SMS conversations e.g. say you and your friend over the day send back and forth to each other 20 messages, all releated to the same thing. Now throw in 15 more random SMS from other peopel in the same day. Your inbox would be a mismash of 20 something messages (assuming you don't delete every single one, maybe there is important info you need).
This program would "group" your SMS into a single "chat style thread", like and IM history would. You can then just delete the entire thread at once when you are done with it. It's also nice to keep that previous information handy, especially if your discussing plans, information, phone numbers etc. You just scroll up to find it again.
If you're a heavy texter, this is a great way to organize your back-and-forth conversations. It's not an IM replacment, so don't think of it as that.
In my case I use it as a compliment to AIM. I have AIM forwarding all of my IM's to my cell phone when I am away. That way my friends and family can msgs me anytime anywhere. My phone/pda can remain in suspend mode conserving the battery and I still get my IM's. I can reply to them just like an IM session. No need for the AIM client on my phone.
The best thing about using sms over an IM client is that you can communicate with anyone that has a cell phone. You don't have to tell someone to register with an IM server to send them messages. It works in suspend mode. With a nice sms chat app the only advantage an IM client has over it is the messages are more instantaneous. But for phone use that is acceptable imo.
Of course this all assumes you don't have to pay on a per sms basis.
Hi! theloanranger said he extracted the 750v threaded app already. It's at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1035112&posted=1#post1035112
Can somebody try it and post the screenshots please? I'm so looking forward to using it with my Pocket Loox T830 (not arrived yet)
Screenshots/Need some help!
Screenshots are found here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15
NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:
"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."
Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab
Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...
You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".
Any help/ideas?
Hey all, Im no programmer myself. (Sorry couldn't find a better place to post this) I'm looking for a AIM program that works with WM5. I have and use both Agile messenger, and AIM 2.0. Agile works great, although I have connectivity issues with AIM at times, however it lacks the things that make AIM, AIM. With no support for buddy info, buddy status, away message, or profiles, Agile does not complete the AIM experience for me and many other I've talked to that use it. AIM 2.0 has been adapted to display right on WM5 anyway, other than ladnscape mode... This version has buddy info, buddy status, away message, block lists and more, however there is no noticifation of a new message, therefore if you don't hear the new message sound you have no idea you have received a new IM. This doesn't work for obvious reasons.
I'm looking for the full Sha-bang! Does anyone know of anything like this? Or has anyone created such a beast for personal use? I know there are AIM developers out there, because AOL has a dev program. I would deffinately be willing to pay for such a program and would others I know. Thoughts?
I am also looking for this exact samet thing.
If anyone wants to tackle this there are some WM5 and java API's available from AOL. It talks about restrictions with cell phone carriers, but I don't think those apply for WM5 development.
http://developer.aim.com/
Some ideas for features.
- Today plugin that shows latest IM snippet. Clicking on it would open the AIM client.
- Auto signoff (or away status) when device goes into suspend. Auto signon (or available status) when device is woken up. This would work with AIM forwarding. The sms message received from AIM forwarding when the device is suspended should be read into the AIM client when coming out of suspend mode thereby seemlessly continuing a conversation.
I would much rather a very stripped down AIM. I have no need for today screen plugins. Just simply send and recieve messages.
I am currently using IMov messenger, and connecting to AIM through the jabber gateway. I actually think this is a better way to do this, since in my area, everytime you switch cell towers, you get a new IP. The Jabber protocol allows for this type of IP hopping without loosing your IM connection, AIM does not.
On top of the IP hopping, if you loose connection, jabber will queue up messages being sent to you, untill you reconnect.
Lastly, the Jabber protocol is encrypted.
PLEASE! and freeware please =)
if someone can do this, that wouldbe great. this aim 2.0 is okay aside from the fact that you dont know when you get new messages =/ . ive been waiting for a good client on wm5 for sometime now. props to whoever can do it =D
I originally posted this in the Hermes section but I now realize it should have been posted here. Please excuse the crosspost though.
Our Blackberry's have a way called "Level 1 Messages" to react differently to incoming emails based upon Sender and/or Subject text. This can include playing a different notification alarm and/or vibrating.
I'm trying to implement the same functionality into our new Cingular 8525 devices (WM5) and I'm not having much luck.
I've tried working with the POOM (Pocket Outlook Object Model) and it seems that doesn't cover incoming emails.
I then tried looking into MAPI and it seems that Messaging related issues only deal with SMS messages. We receive our Exchange email via Activesync over OWA (I think) and so that leaves MAPI out.
I am both amazed that this is that difficult and amazed that there aren't 500 questions related to this already here as I thought this would be a VERY common need.
If I can't figure this out, we'll have to go back to Blackberry and that's not what I want to do.
I looked at the software phoneAlarm and it supposedly has this functionality but it is very unstable and we could never get the Custom Email alerts working.
TIA - any help at all will be greatly appreciated.
Yes, I searched first and followed all those goose chases but I still have not found a working solution.
I'm interested in such an app as well and have been unable to find one. I'm reviving this thread in case something new has developed.
Phonealarm provides such functionality, as well as an application from Quore fucntions called "inboxtones". Google it
There are a couple of good tools on here, both called Group SMS, which allow you to send a single text to multiple contacts, at the same time. The relationship here is one to many.
I am looking for someone to develop a tool to do the opposite, i.e. the ability to select a number of texts to send to a single contact. The relationship here is many to one.
Is anyone interested in taking this challenge on? The preference would be to further develop one of the group SMS tools to be able to accomplish both tasks from within the same tool rather than having to run yet another small program on the PPC. Alternatively it might be useful to develop a tool that can undertake both core functions, ie one to many and many to one.
I run a HTC Tytn, so I am looking for the application to be optimised for use on this device.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cheers
WB
well you can use threaded sms. it basically gives you a chat style so you can keep typing away.
Sorry Bowlopho, you have completely misunderstood what I want. I don't want to cut & paste into a threaded SMS application, which is what I think you are referring to.
What I want to do is pick up several discreet text messages, all at once, and attach them to a single contact, then send in a one time operation only. I want them to remain as discreet messages when I send them, not blurred into one giant text.
I know exactly what I am looking for. Appreciate your input.
WB
to me sounds like a SMS Bomber with like different messages Yes?
Forgive my ignorance; SMS bomber? Sounds sinister. What does that do?
All I'm looking for is a tool that will let me send several discrete texts to one person in one overall selection process rather than to tediously have to repeat the process for each text message over and over.
The idea is a simple one and is the reverse of the tools already out here that allow one to send a single message to multiple/many contacts.
Thanks
WB
Hiya,
I'll add this to my Pocket SMS Manager, as it should be easy AND someone else requests it.
Pete
Pete,
Good to hear from you. If you are able to blend this into your tool then that would be an excellent result. How long would this take to develop/implement?
PM me if you need more detail in terms of what I am looking for, although it should be sufficiently clear from my posts in here. Incidentally, have not had chance to keep up with developments on your tool. Have you sorted the delays and slow updates, assumed to be caused by Activesync, that I reported to you some time ago?
Let me know.
Cheers
WB
wacky.banana said:
There are a couple of good tools on here, both called Group SMS, which allow you to send a single text to multiple contacts, at the same time. The relationship here is one to many.
I am looking for someone to develop a tool to do the opposite, i.e. the ability to select a number of texts to send to a single contact. The relationship here is many to one.
Is anyone interested in taking this challenge on? The preference would be to further develop one of the group SMS tools to be able to accomplish both tasks from within the same tool rather than having to run yet another small program on the PPC. Alternatively it might be useful to develop a tool that can undertake both core functions, ie one to many and many to one.
I run a HTC Tytn, so I am looking for the application to be optimised for use on this device.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cheers
WB
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WB -
Please elaborate more about what you want - just so that it's very clear your concept request is understood -
Having the idea scope would be helpful:
* What is the benefit of having this tool
* For what major purpose would it serve
* When you mention chaining a few selected texts together to send to one recipient, can you provide a theoretical example?
If you can provide some more detailed walk-through hypothetical scenarios, it would help me as well.
Thanks,
DSO
IMSMS,
Thanks for the response. I will develop some scenarios and email them to you so you can have a clear idea of what I am looking for.
Thanks
WB