Hey all, Im no programmer myself. (Sorry couldn't find a better place to post this) I'm looking for a AIM program that works with WM5. I have and use both Agile messenger, and AIM 2.0. Agile works great, although I have connectivity issues with AIM at times, however it lacks the things that make AIM, AIM. With no support for buddy info, buddy status, away message, or profiles, Agile does not complete the AIM experience for me and many other I've talked to that use it. AIM 2.0 has been adapted to display right on WM5 anyway, other than ladnscape mode... This version has buddy info, buddy status, away message, block lists and more, however there is no noticifation of a new message, therefore if you don't hear the new message sound you have no idea you have received a new IM. This doesn't work for obvious reasons.
I'm looking for the full Sha-bang! Does anyone know of anything like this? Or has anyone created such a beast for personal use? I know there are AIM developers out there, because AOL has a dev program. I would deffinately be willing to pay for such a program and would others I know. Thoughts?
I am also looking for this exact samet thing.
If anyone wants to tackle this there are some WM5 and java API's available from AOL. It talks about restrictions with cell phone carriers, but I don't think those apply for WM5 development.
http://developer.aim.com/
Some ideas for features.
- Today plugin that shows latest IM snippet. Clicking on it would open the AIM client.
- Auto signoff (or away status) when device goes into suspend. Auto signon (or available status) when device is woken up. This would work with AIM forwarding. The sms message received from AIM forwarding when the device is suspended should be read into the AIM client when coming out of suspend mode thereby seemlessly continuing a conversation.
I would much rather a very stripped down AIM. I have no need for today screen plugins. Just simply send and recieve messages.
I am currently using IMov messenger, and connecting to AIM through the jabber gateway. I actually think this is a better way to do this, since in my area, everytime you switch cell towers, you get a new IP. The Jabber protocol allows for this type of IP hopping without loosing your IM connection, AIM does not.
On top of the IP hopping, if you loose connection, jabber will queue up messages being sent to you, untill you reconnect.
Lastly, the Jabber protocol is encrypted.
PLEASE! and freeware please =)
if someone can do this, that wouldbe great. this aim 2.0 is okay aside from the fact that you dont know when you get new messages =/ . ive been waiting for a good client on wm5 for sometime now. props to whoever can do it =D
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I realy need a good messenger like IM+...or something like Yahoo.Go(i know it's for symbian only)..but a messenger thet realy work...
By the way...i use only Yahoo Messenger.
Tnx in advance...
I have tried all of them. Most people seem to like Agile and I even thought I did at first. Problem is, with GPRS/EDGE it disconnects constantly. If you receive a phone call, your connection drops and you will still appear online for a little while after. So if someone sends you a message when in this state, you never receive it. I have an issue with dropped messages.
I found the most stable backend IM client to use is Verichat. It is both TCPIP and SMS based from what I have seen. You always appear online no matter what state your phone is in. If you receive a message when your phone is off or on a call, the message will be sent via SMS. If your device is on and you have the app open, you will receive the message via TCPIP. It also has BOTS that can be added to your bud list for handy things like movie times, driving directions, etc. It also supports all major IM services.
Free to try:
http://www.verichat.com/verichat_ppc/index.html
This app will be for all wm devices.
This is an ongoing project that is in need of some of you guys expertise. The rom of the treo 750v has been dumped and is in need of hacker and developers. The treo 750v has features that NO OTHER wm device does. Like the threaded sms messaging, which is sms in a chat style form.
http://www.palm.com/sg/products/smar...messaging.html is a little more about how it works and what it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758 is a thread in the xda-treo forum, but I feel need to be here due to the fact that it will be for all wm devices and is in need of developers and hackers.
Attached is the rom dump.
Thanks, Cody
in many countries you pay pr. sms much more then you'd pay to send text over grps so for most ppl msn, skype or other IM clients would do the same thing only much cheaper
I am really not sure what the hype is about. Haven't used SMS in a long time a with 100MB data package, I have to agree with Rudegar even the built in MSN messenger is better.
Any way I thought you should know that what you posted is not a ROM dump and cannot be used to extract the app.
Interesting you say that. If you have kids sms messaging is almost a requirement. It is extremely popular with the younger generation. I find myself using it more and more. I have friends that send over 3k sms messages in a month. A threaded sms app sure makes it a much better experience.
The rom dump thread was moved by someone over to the treo section for those wondering where it went. The dump is on the ftp server.
ftp.xda-developers.com
userid: xdaupload pw: xda
file: treo750vrompartial_bcaslis.zip (dump of Part00, Part01 and Part02 partitions)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758
I played with the rom dump yesterday. The messaging app does load, just seems to be missing some resources and/or registry entries that I'm not prepared to import right now (test machines all being used already).
It also appears to be fixed at 240x240, although that can probably be fixed later.
The rest of the rom - doesn't contain many intersting .exes, but I know hannip is interested in a number of the other devices and drivers installed. They don't appear to be device specific (c.f. many eten files are).
In the UK, data contracts are very expensive, and you get loads of SMS bundled in your contracts, so SMS makes sense. I don't IM from my phones. But both have their uses.
But I still can't see the fascination with threaded SMS. It'd be quite straight forward to program even if the treo app can't be sucked out.
V
PS Whoever dumped the roms to begin with, many thanks!
However, we may need to get an overview of the databases on the device as well, in case there are any custom databases. The speed dial plugin that has thus far been elusive relies on a call db. Either a device backup (using sprite etc) or a database dump would be useful to check. Just a guess, might lead to nothing.
Thanks vijay for all of your assistance! Good to hear that the sms app loads. I've been trying to get the a2dp dll's to work on my treo 700wx and 700w devices just to get my feet wet. Having some issues getting the dll's to load, but with your help I might figure this out yet.
The excitement for the 750 sms app over the other threaded sms apps out there is the clean integration with the os and today screen. I've tried other sms threader apps and they are buggy, don't grab messages when the pda is suspended, and leave copies of sms messages in poutlook. The one from triangle powers is a .net app and loads extremely slow because of it. It is expected that the palm written app will solve all of these problems. Plus it handles mms pictues, audio etc.
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
Rudegar said:
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
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Well, I'm someone who wants the SMS chat program badly.
Understand, it's not so much that you use like an IM program, you don't.
This is just a method by which to organize your SMS conversations e.g. say you and your friend over the day send back and forth to each other 20 messages, all releated to the same thing. Now throw in 15 more random SMS from other peopel in the same day. Your inbox would be a mismash of 20 something messages (assuming you don't delete every single one, maybe there is important info you need).
This program would "group" your SMS into a single "chat style thread", like and IM history would. You can then just delete the entire thread at once when you are done with it. It's also nice to keep that previous information handy, especially if your discussing plans, information, phone numbers etc. You just scroll up to find it again.
If you're a heavy texter, this is a great way to organize your back-and-forth conversations. It's not an IM replacment, so don't think of it as that.
In my case I use it as a compliment to AIM. I have AIM forwarding all of my IM's to my cell phone when I am away. That way my friends and family can msgs me anytime anywhere. My phone/pda can remain in suspend mode conserving the battery and I still get my IM's. I can reply to them just like an IM session. No need for the AIM client on my phone.
The best thing about using sms over an IM client is that you can communicate with anyone that has a cell phone. You don't have to tell someone to register with an IM server to send them messages. It works in suspend mode. With a nice sms chat app the only advantage an IM client has over it is the messages are more instantaneous. But for phone use that is acceptable imo.
Of course this all assumes you don't have to pay on a per sms basis.
Hi! theloanranger said he extracted the 750v threaded app already. It's at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1035112&posted=1#post1035112
Can somebody try it and post the screenshots please? I'm so looking forward to using it with my Pocket Loox T830 (not arrived yet)
Screenshots/Need some help!
Screenshots are found here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15
NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:
"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."
Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab
Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...
You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".
Any help/ideas?
I am looking for an application that will allow me to monitor call and text usage on a daily basis for several thousand handsets. Basically i would like something each phone to send me a email through a wireless connection at the end of each day telling me how long they were on the phone and how many texts have been sent. Can any one help me????
also i am having problems connecting these phones to the proxy server, i can get it to work on windows OS 6 but not OS 6 pro.
any help would be much appreciated, if anyone can develop a custom application for me we could talk please contact me and we can talk further.
Thank you.
you can use batterystutus it comes with it
batterystatus?
ive done a search and doesnt seem like it does monitor call usage..
But i am developing this currently, pm me if you want more info,
But its pretty difficult, and finishing time will not be soon...
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i'm wondering, i always see people on these forums talking about aim, i know theres ALOT of programmers on here, why doesn't anyone just make one for the apache? something like tmobile sidekicks aim. with balloon tips telling you when someone im's while the app is minimized... anyways just a thought.
I just use IM+ from Shape services,
http://www.shapeservices.com/en/index.php
Either that or, if you don't wanna pay for anything, look up Palringo.
It lets you use multiple accounts at once, doesn't popup and ruin what you're doing when you get a new IM, and it's FREE. The only problem is the fact that it doesn't save conversations, so once you close out of a window, you had better remember what that conversation was about.
AIM for WM 6
I have AIM running on WM6-- Works great!
Hello All.
I am currently in the process of developing an application to text mobiles via an activesync connected device.
So no subscriptions, no pay per text etc etc.. Simply uses your phone\tarrif to send messages..
I was considering releasing it on here, and wondered what (if any) would the interest be? Would anyone use it?
It's in the early dev stages at the moment... But I am willing to consider BETA testers.
Would you be willing?
Cheers
MikeSel^
yes i would love to help beta your application. let me know when its ready! cheers!
Sounds good, I had a program to do this with my ancient Nokia.
If you can make it provider independent I would love to test it
I would also love to help beta your application. let me know when its ready! Thanks
Would you be able to make it read text's also, so you could use it like an email client - would be easier for me to send texts whilst at work like this.
I would be willing to test.
I would use this daily as i send alot of text messages!
this would be great, my phone is hooked up to activesync the whole time at work and im constantly sending txts.
I can send texts from MS Outlook 2k7, no activesync or phone hookup needed- but I think you have to have Sprint as a carrier and a hotmail account.
Thanks for your replies..
I will add them all to my development plans, and post up once the beta is ready to test.
This will be completely independant from any carriers as it will simply use your phones carrier to send\receive messages!
If you have any feature requests feel free to reply with them now.
Thanks
MikeSel^ said:
If you have any feature requests feel free to reply with them now.
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Ability to browse inbox/sent items if you can please - so no interaction with the phone is needed.
Also, mark messgaes read/unread and delete.
They are all i would probably use. Cheers for the effort man!
Read/Unread... Good idea!!
**Runs off to implement**
KEEP UM COMING!
I use my mobile from desktop by using http://www.jeyo.com/index.asp its not free but works well for me.
I'm very interested in this...
Will you run a client application on the device, or are you directly accessing the data? (RAPI maybe?)
Well the idea stems from Jeyo, I've used it for ages.. But I feel there are parts missing from it. An I like to be able to customize the software to how I want to use it.
I am currently using RAPI with a 'server\client' type thing going on. However I am not sure this will be how it ends up. Depends on how much I can squeese from RAPI.
Looking forward to this mate, should be a good little project for you.
I know what u mean with customizing software that ur using.
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KEEP UM COMING!
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OK, how about supporting command line so that i can send txt msgs using my '.net programs'.
Even better would be to expose a sort of API through a dll file.
I would love that.
Ok, Well my proof of concept exe may help you there.. The exe simply reads from a text file. First line phone number, next line message..
So I have an app that creates the text message copies it to the device and then starts the exe. Which sends the exe,,
So if you want to use this, make the text file in the root of the device and run the exe.
I will build in a similar function to the final version.
Thanks
Mike
cool im looking forward to this. it would be really usefull.
im up for this too....will it work with Vista?
mDesktop is wicked for txtin from tour desktop, if you have ur diamond connected the txts pop up on you monitor 2