I realy need a good messenger like IM+...or something like Yahoo.Go(i know it's for symbian only)..but a messenger thet realy work...
By the way...i use only Yahoo Messenger.
Tnx in advance...
I have tried all of them. Most people seem to like Agile and I even thought I did at first. Problem is, with GPRS/EDGE it disconnects constantly. If you receive a phone call, your connection drops and you will still appear online for a little while after. So if someone sends you a message when in this state, you never receive it. I have an issue with dropped messages.
I found the most stable backend IM client to use is Verichat. It is both TCPIP and SMS based from what I have seen. You always appear online no matter what state your phone is in. If you receive a message when your phone is off or on a call, the message will be sent via SMS. If your device is on and you have the app open, you will receive the message via TCPIP. It also has BOTS that can be added to your bud list for handy things like movie times, driving directions, etc. It also supports all major IM services.
Free to try:
http://www.verichat.com/verichat_ppc/index.html
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I hate that the OZ messenger constantly occupies the notification slot. It keeps you from using the soft key on the today screen for calendar. Also i have noticed that even if i get kicked offline the little man is still on my top bar telling me im online.
I have tried agile, but it disconnects everytime you make a call or loose connection for any amt of time.
i just wish we could use aim like on a sidekick2. when some1 im u a phone number u can click and dial the number from the aim screen
This is my biggest complaint with the MDA so far... The OZ messenger is VERY SLOW and does not have the ability to "keep connection alive" so the GPRS will timeout every so often and only come back on when you send an IM out, then ALL of the imcoming IMs will be sent to you. One plus is that the OZ messenger stays logged on while I make phones calls during the day. IM+ and agile both disconnect when i make or answer any call!! are they serious?!? That is so damn annoying. Does anyone here have an advice on how to keep the IM on while making a call like the OZ messenger??? so sort of setting somewhere?!? please help, I've been researching til the end of time and can't figure it out. I have been through 3 different ROMs so I know that can't have much to do with it since OZ stays online just fine... any other IM progs out there that will help me? thanks...
The reason it disconnects you from the gprs/edge network when you receive a call is because it uses the same chip to process calls and data. So if you accept a call in it will take the call and stop data until the call is finished.
The reason OZ IM does get disconnected is because it works on TXT msessaging...which is really bad and it will cost you everymessage you send so you better have a large amount of free message as its not like IM+ or Agile which send it through the internet instead of trhough the tmobile txt message service.
I use VeriChat for IM. Its so much supperior to Agile and IM+ in many ways.
THe have a 30 days trial on their website. Give it a shot.
Hope this helps
I've heard that OZ messenger works using SMS, but you guys make it seem like it uses GPRS to send/receive instant messages. So which is it?
i guess u guys dont like the way u can click a link in aim on a sidekick no1 has answered any of my ?'s about y cant any of the im software allow u 2 click a number or webpage and view or dial it
Thought I would start this thread to identify the best IM for WM5.0 or Wizard. We are looking for a universal IM that connects to MSN, ICQ, AOL and Yahoo.
I have Agile Messenger but it seems to disconnect all the time while in a call or just randomly. Not to reliable. My wife has the sidekick and the IM is flawless.
What do you use and recommend?
Agile Messenger
Pro:
Nice interface that allows you to see all contacts from different services
You can pull ICQ info so you can see who are ebhind those numbers
Separate tabs for each IM window
Alerts when an IM appears
Con:
Connection drops when on call
Connection drops randomly (should be a buffer for lost connections before it disconnects)
The application will randomly close
I use Agile
About the cons:
Connection drops when on call (It uses GPRS/EDGE, which is the same part of the phone that makes/takes calls. The only other way is to use text messages, and that is costly)
Connection drops randomly (should be a buffer for lost connections before it disconnects) (I've never had that happen to me)
The application will randomly close (I've never had that happen to me)
Does anybody use the AIM that comes setup on the MDA? If not, why not? I don't use anything other than AIM, and the one that came with the phone seems to work fine (although I've only had it for a day now).
From what I've heard, the OZ messenger app which comes installed on tmobile mda uses sms to chat. this means you pay for each sms message unless you have unlimitted sms plan. also, i've found it to be painfully slow.
I think agile is great, especially the WM5 alpha build. agile must disconnect during a call because GPRS/EDGE and voice cannot be used at the same time. I also had random disonnects before I updated to the qtek AKU2 rom. Now that i have updated, agile works flawlessly.
the oz communicator does not use sms. i dont know why people start these nasty rumors. the problem i have with oz is that it constantly occupies the notification slot telling you that you ar available. the led will always blink orange when it is on. and i actually caught it disconnected with the available icon still in the notification tray.
if they fixed the notification to only when you get a new message then i would probably use it.
my agile closes its self too.
eguess said:
the oz communicator does not use sms. i dont know why people start these nasty rumors. the problem i have with oz is that it constantly occupies the notification slot telling you that you ar available. the led will always blink orange when it is on. and i actually caught it disconnected with the available icon still in the notification tray.
if they fixed the notification to only when you get a new message then i would probably use it.
my agile closes its self too.
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OZ absolutely does use SMS. I have performed tests on this where the ONLY use that could have been made of the SMS was the OZ client, and the counter got hit for EVERY message.
That's not a "nasty rumor" - its a FACT.
I totally agree that OZ uses SMS. I don't have unlimited SMS, so I never use it. After testing OZ, I suddenly had 45 text messages on my bill. Coincidence? NO! Like I said, I never use SMS, so it certainly was OZ that was using SMS to transmit those IMs back and forth.
Yung said:
I totally agree that OZ uses SMS. I don't have unlimited SMS, so I never use it. After testing OZ, I suddenly had 45 text messages on my bill. Coincidence? NO! Like I said, I never use SMS, so it certainly was OZ that was using SMS to transmit those IMs back and forth.
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I agree, we don't use unlimited SMS either, OZ is definitely SMS-based.
The SMS charges even say "IM" or "AIM" (can't remember which now)
hi, im new to the ppc phones. im using a wizard/o2 xda mini s... and i have a problem.. i can connect to the internet but all my messaging programs cant.. i tried agile, im+ and verichat.. all say cannot connect with current settings.. what should the gprs settings be for tmobile us/ny
help please? thanks in advance
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
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except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
voodoomurphy said:
gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
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except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
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lol
sorry, thinking of game by astraware. Try www.shapeservices.com
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gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
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except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
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the website is www.shapeservices.com and somehow I don't like IM+ very much. I like agile better.
new IM software half price
http://www.webmessenger.com/wm5.htm
just seen this. just for wm5 as well.
http://www.webmessenger.com/wm5.htm
just seen this. just for wm5 as well.
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Hmm. Not free though...
I have been using the T-Mobile USA messenger software. It works, but the incoming messages are very slow. Outgoing ones are fast but the incoming take about 5 mins or so. Where can I download the OZ software?
I went to dl agile and the site says WM5 version coming soon. what version are you guys using?
the WM5 version of agile is due in the next 1-2 weeks...
there's a link to an alpha version of the WM5 agile in another xda-dev thread...
Is there any useful app which will able me to connect to my ICQ through my QTEK 9100 (except IM+ and Agile Messenger, which doesn't work so well) ?
Mirabilis's ICQ PPC Beta 1 version perhaps?
I've tried it, and it doesn't work.
It gives me an Error msg about the memory.
Something else?
tzafrirs said:
I've tried it, and it doesn't work.
It gives me an Error msg about the memory.
Something else?
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Try Verichat and enable the feature to keep you online even when the device is off once you start it for the 1st time. If you have SMS text messaging, your IM's will come through SMS when your device is off. If you have Verichat running, it will come through TCPCIP internet connection. This has worked great for me so far although I am still evaluating it. Problem with the other apps is that if your phone is off or you lose GPRS/internet connectivity, your IM connection is lost and this happens often. Also, when you receive a voice call, you lose your GPRS connection resulting in your IM session getting dropped. I am only really using the AOL part now so can't say how the ICQ part works.
Suggestion: Download and try it for free as I am doing. Test using another ICQ# on a desktop computer.
http://www.pdaapps.com/verichat_ppc/index.html
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the original ICQ client is very bad and stupid program!
keitht said:
tzafrirs said:
I've tried it, and it doesn't work.
It gives me an Error msg about the memory.
Something else?
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Try Verichat and enable the feature to keep you online even when the device is off once you start it for the 1st time. If you have SMS text messaging, your IM's will come through SMS when your device is off. If you have Verichat running, it will come through TCPCIP internet connection. This has worked great for me so far although I am still evaluating it. Problem with the other apps is that if your phone is off or you lose GPRS/internet connectivity, your IM connection is lost and this happens often. Also, when you receive a voice call, you lose your GPRS connection resulting in your IM session getting dropped. I am only really using the AOL part now so can't say how the ICQ part works.
Suggestion: Download and try it for free as I am doing. Test using another ICQ# on a desktop computer.
http://www.pdaapps.com/verichat_ppc/index.html
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Doesn't' support the local language (Hebrew), but I can handle it.
10x
You can try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2500837&posted=1
PIGEON! mesenger
I have been getting some crazy buggy action with my aim connection RECENTLY with agile thats sooo annoying; first of all it'll get the cannot connect thing, switch to contact view? This happens right in the beginning when agile first starts... So when I go to contact view, I try to connect from there and it connects, but then now i get double entries for some of my online contacts; then when I send messages to buddy "A", and they reply, the reply doesnt show up on the original window, instead the reply goes to a new window, from a duplicate buddy "A" entry that shows the buddy "A" as offline. No matter what all replies go to this alternate window......anyone experience this before?
I did clean uninstall and installs but to no avail......its installed in device memory also...don't know why this is happening, as the program worked before for a while, until this happened..to my knowledge I dont believe i changed a thing :x
im having the same issue with the agile messenger beta 3 or whatever. it keeps saying "cannot connect", even though i have a solid wifi connection and the internet works.
im having the same issue with the agile messenger beta 3 or whatever. it keeps saying "cannot connect", even though i have a solid wifi connection and the internet works.
Has anyone cracked the code on when Google chat on the phone ignores desktop chat and when it doesn't? I have seen that sometimes when I chat with my friends on my desktop, sometimes my phone beeps for every line entered by the other party and sometimes it doesn't. I think in a perfect world, the phone should beep for the "first" line of text, and if I answer on the desktop, it should ignore the rest (but still record them for posterity). And if I answer on the phone, perhaps it should just haptic vibrate for each line of text received after the "first". I say "first" in quotes because I imagine that would be difficult to manage pragmatically. When is it the first chat of a new "session", and when is it just a delay in between chat lines of the same session? Maybe a customizable interval, like say five minutes. If no text is received within five minutes then it is a new session, so beep on the first line?
Lat night I was chatting with a friend (I was on the desktop) and every time he sent something, my phone would beep. Not the best solution in my opinion.
From what I can tell, your phone will receive the message when you do not have the gchat window active on your desktop.
If you click in on the area like you were going to type a message and leave your cursor there, when your friends send messages they don't seem to get sent to the phone. On the other hand, even if you have gchat open on your desktop and you say use a different program or are on a different tab in your browser, then your phone will receive the messages.
At least this is my experience. I think this is the correct behavior as you don't need to get messages in two places when you are actively chatting.
From my experience I use Gchat on my pc everyday when i am at work and I have my phone on my desk near by. When a friend of mine messages me it hits both for the first message, but if i answer on my desktop, it does not hit my phone ever until I sign off of gchat on my pc. Even if it is not focused on the gchat window. I am however using Trillian for my gchat, not sure what you all are using.
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From what I can tell, your phone will receive the message when you do not have the gchat window active on your desktop.
If you click in on the area like you were going to type a message and leave your cursor there, when your friends send messages they don't seem to get sent to the phone. On the other hand, even if you have gchat open on your desktop and you say use a different program or are on a different tab in your browser, then your phone will receive the messages.
At least this is my experience. I think this is the correct behavior as you don't need to get messages in two places when you are actively chatting.
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This is what happens for me as well. Messages go to my phone on the first IM or if I don't have that window active on my desktop.
I am using the built-into-gmail-dot-com google chat. This has definitely happened to me several times before. Last night it happened again. The entire conversation I had with my friend, every time I received a message on my desktop, my phone also beeped. Other times it worked like it was supposed to (beeped the first time and that was it.)
I will see if I can get my wife to help me troubleshoot tonight.
perhaps a topic for a different thread...
I found the chat behavior to be exactly the way DLarva stated:
DLarva said:
From what I can tell, your phone will receive the message when you do not have the gchat window active on your desktop....
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My question (perhaps a dumb one ) is how/where to turn off the notification that you got a chat all together?
I don't want any notification of a chat receipt while I am on the phone.
Any help?
Maybe:
Try (within setting of google talk) turn off notification bar, no vibrate, and set ringtone to silent.
That might approximate no notification.
etaChase said:
I found the chat behavior to be exactly the way DLarva stated:
My question (perhaps a dumb one ) is how/where to turn off the notification that you got a chat all together?
I don't want any notification of a chat receipt while I am on the phone.
Any help?
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thanks for that - have tried to "approximate" no notification, and that's all well and good. . . but not the same as turning it off.
I have looked around in my mobile settings in the google account but can't find it (thought it might be similar to turning on/off notification of appointments in the calendar)...
might just be missing it, but this seems like fairly simple feature. I am nearing feeling ready to root my phone and thought maybe this would be a feature that was only available after doing that. It would have been the final encouragement I need to take that (admittedly not very big) plunge!
I have a rooted Nexus One (CM6 with KOR) and that is as close as I can get to turning them off (that I can find anyway).
This was happening to me, too (when I used Gtalk on the PC, the phone sitting on my desk would sound the alert, with every chat message I rec'd) -- so I just manually signed out of Gtalk on the phone, and it stopped happening. I mostly use Gtalk on desktop anyway. (Though when I check "running processes" on the Vibrant, I see Gtalk always seems to be running -- must start up automatically -- even though I'm signed out...)
exactly Pevvy -
but signing out of Gmail kinda defeats the purpose of having the phone constantly synched. Guess the same argument could be made as to why you want chats saved/synched... anyhoo - I just don't want chat on my vibrant, period. I don't want them saved (so transcription is turned off in gChat on the desktop) and I would never chat from the phone. OK, never say never, but I would rather have to enable that, rather than always having it running using resources.
When I root that would a fun thing to explore to see if it can be deactivated through some custom start-up (so it doesn't show as a running service - I see the same thing) and only starts if I manually start it.
That said, if it is server side associated with the google account (its a hosted domain and that may further change things...) it may not be able to adjust even with root. Interest how this shows the blending/blurring between the net and the synch to the phone - and should data and synch be more push or pull.
Oh, I didn't sign out of Gmail on my phone -- just Gtalk (the chat service)... seems it was keeping me signed in automatically before, and I had to go into the app, and manually sign out.