Thought I would start this thread to identify the best IM for WM5.0 or Wizard. We are looking for a universal IM that connects to MSN, ICQ, AOL and Yahoo.
I have Agile Messenger but it seems to disconnect all the time while in a call or just randomly. Not to reliable. My wife has the sidekick and the IM is flawless.
What do you use and recommend?
Agile Messenger
Pro:
Nice interface that allows you to see all contacts from different services
You can pull ICQ info so you can see who are ebhind those numbers
Separate tabs for each IM window
Alerts when an IM appears
Con:
Connection drops when on call
Connection drops randomly (should be a buffer for lost connections before it disconnects)
The application will randomly close
I use Agile
About the cons:
Connection drops when on call (It uses GPRS/EDGE, which is the same part of the phone that makes/takes calls. The only other way is to use text messages, and that is costly)
Connection drops randomly (should be a buffer for lost connections before it disconnects) (I've never had that happen to me)
The application will randomly close (I've never had that happen to me)
Does anybody use the AIM that comes setup on the MDA? If not, why not? I don't use anything other than AIM, and the one that came with the phone seems to work fine (although I've only had it for a day now).
From what I've heard, the OZ messenger app which comes installed on tmobile mda uses sms to chat. this means you pay for each sms message unless you have unlimitted sms plan. also, i've found it to be painfully slow.
I think agile is great, especially the WM5 alpha build. agile must disconnect during a call because GPRS/EDGE and voice cannot be used at the same time. I also had random disonnects before I updated to the qtek AKU2 rom. Now that i have updated, agile works flawlessly.
the oz communicator does not use sms. i dont know why people start these nasty rumors. the problem i have with oz is that it constantly occupies the notification slot telling you that you ar available. the led will always blink orange when it is on. and i actually caught it disconnected with the available icon still in the notification tray.
if they fixed the notification to only when you get a new message then i would probably use it.
my agile closes its self too.
eguess said:
the oz communicator does not use sms. i dont know why people start these nasty rumors. the problem i have with oz is that it constantly occupies the notification slot telling you that you ar available. the led will always blink orange when it is on. and i actually caught it disconnected with the available icon still in the notification tray.
if they fixed the notification to only when you get a new message then i would probably use it.
my agile closes its self too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OZ absolutely does use SMS. I have performed tests on this where the ONLY use that could have been made of the SMS was the OZ client, and the counter got hit for EVERY message.
That's not a "nasty rumor" - its a FACT.
I totally agree that OZ uses SMS. I don't have unlimited SMS, so I never use it. After testing OZ, I suddenly had 45 text messages on my bill. Coincidence? NO! Like I said, I never use SMS, so it certainly was OZ that was using SMS to transmit those IMs back and forth.
Yung said:
I totally agree that OZ uses SMS. I don't have unlimited SMS, so I never use it. After testing OZ, I suddenly had 45 text messages on my bill. Coincidence? NO! Like I said, I never use SMS, so it certainly was OZ that was using SMS to transmit those IMs back and forth.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree, we don't use unlimited SMS either, OZ is definitely SMS-based.
The SMS charges even say "IM" or "AIM" (can't remember which now)
hi, im new to the ppc phones. im using a wizard/o2 xda mini s... and i have a problem.. i can connect to the internet but all my messaging programs cant.. i tried agile, im+ and verichat.. all say cannot connect with current settings.. what should the gprs settings be for tmobile us/ny
help please? thanks in advance
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
voodoomurphy said:
gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol
sorry, thinking of game by astraware. Try www.shapeservices.com
voodoomurphy said:
gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol
the website is www.shapeservices.com and somehow I don't like IM+ very much. I like agile better.
new IM software half price
http://www.webmessenger.com/wm5.htm
just seen this. just for wm5 as well.
http://www.webmessenger.com/wm5.htm
just seen this. just for wm5 as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm. Not free though...
I have been using the T-Mobile USA messenger software. It works, but the incoming messages are very slow. Outgoing ones are fast but the incoming take about 5 mins or so. Where can I download the OZ software?
I went to dl agile and the site says WM5 version coming soon. what version are you guys using?
the WM5 version of agile is due in the next 1-2 weeks...
there's a link to an alpha version of the WM5 agile in another xda-dev thread...
Related
I hate that the OZ messenger constantly occupies the notification slot. It keeps you from using the soft key on the today screen for calendar. Also i have noticed that even if i get kicked offline the little man is still on my top bar telling me im online.
I have tried agile, but it disconnects everytime you make a call or loose connection for any amt of time.
i just wish we could use aim like on a sidekick2. when some1 im u a phone number u can click and dial the number from the aim screen
This is my biggest complaint with the MDA so far... The OZ messenger is VERY SLOW and does not have the ability to "keep connection alive" so the GPRS will timeout every so often and only come back on when you send an IM out, then ALL of the imcoming IMs will be sent to you. One plus is that the OZ messenger stays logged on while I make phones calls during the day. IM+ and agile both disconnect when i make or answer any call!! are they serious?!? That is so damn annoying. Does anyone here have an advice on how to keep the IM on while making a call like the OZ messenger??? so sort of setting somewhere?!? please help, I've been researching til the end of time and can't figure it out. I have been through 3 different ROMs so I know that can't have much to do with it since OZ stays online just fine... any other IM progs out there that will help me? thanks...
The reason it disconnects you from the gprs/edge network when you receive a call is because it uses the same chip to process calls and data. So if you accept a call in it will take the call and stop data until the call is finished.
The reason OZ IM does get disconnected is because it works on TXT msessaging...which is really bad and it will cost you everymessage you send so you better have a large amount of free message as its not like IM+ or Agile which send it through the internet instead of trhough the tmobile txt message service.
I use VeriChat for IM. Its so much supperior to Agile and IM+ in many ways.
THe have a 30 days trial on their website. Give it a shot.
Hope this helps
I've heard that OZ messenger works using SMS, but you guys make it seem like it uses GPRS to send/receive instant messages. So which is it?
i guess u guys dont like the way u can click a link in aim on a sidekick no1 has answered any of my ?'s about y cant any of the im software allow u 2 click a number or webpage and view or dial it
Is there any useful app which will able me to connect to my ICQ through my QTEK 9100 (except IM+ and Agile Messenger, which doesn't work so well) ?
Mirabilis's ICQ PPC Beta 1 version perhaps?
I've tried it, and it doesn't work.
It gives me an Error msg about the memory.
Something else?
tzafrirs said:
I've tried it, and it doesn't work.
It gives me an Error msg about the memory.
Something else?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try Verichat and enable the feature to keep you online even when the device is off once you start it for the 1st time. If you have SMS text messaging, your IM's will come through SMS when your device is off. If you have Verichat running, it will come through TCPCIP internet connection. This has worked great for me so far although I am still evaluating it. Problem with the other apps is that if your phone is off or you lose GPRS/internet connectivity, your IM connection is lost and this happens often. Also, when you receive a voice call, you lose your GPRS connection resulting in your IM session getting dropped. I am only really using the AOL part now so can't say how the ICQ part works.
Suggestion: Download and try it for free as I am doing. Test using another ICQ# on a desktop computer.
http://www.pdaapps.com/verichat_ppc/index.html
!
the original ICQ client is very bad and stupid program!
keitht said:
tzafrirs said:
I've tried it, and it doesn't work.
It gives me an Error msg about the memory.
Something else?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try Verichat and enable the feature to keep you online even when the device is off once you start it for the 1st time. If you have SMS text messaging, your IM's will come through SMS when your device is off. If you have Verichat running, it will come through TCPCIP internet connection. This has worked great for me so far although I am still evaluating it. Problem with the other apps is that if your phone is off or you lose GPRS/internet connectivity, your IM connection is lost and this happens often. Also, when you receive a voice call, you lose your GPRS connection resulting in your IM session getting dropped. I am only really using the AOL part now so can't say how the ICQ part works.
Suggestion: Download and try it for free as I am doing. Test using another ICQ# on a desktop computer.
http://www.pdaapps.com/verichat_ppc/index.html
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doesn't' support the local language (Hebrew), but I can handle it.
10x
You can try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2500837&posted=1
PIGEON! mesenger
I Hard-SPL'd my Wing and threw Touch-It 4.4 on it. From what I am understanding, this means I can now use my phone with any carrier. Does this also mean that while using it with T-Mobile that they won't be able to charge me for AIM messages that I sent thru wi-fi now? They have a nasty policy of charging for AIM messages even if you send them thru private wifi.
hidavi said:
I Hard-SPL'd my Wing and threw Touch-It 4.4 on it. From what I am understanding, this means I can now use my phone with any carrier. Does this also mean that while using it with T-Mobile that they won't be able to charge me for AIM messages that I sent thru wi-fi now? They have a nasty policy of charging for AIM messages even if you send them thru private wifi.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have tp PAY when you are using wifi????
when gprs isn´t connected and you are using wifi - that COULD not happen in my eyes.
BUT often when GPRS is connected AND wifi also the programs go through GPRS!!!!!! ths the problem. allways disconnect GPRS!
there is a liitle app "MoDaCo - Nodata" that prevents GPRS for connecting - if you don´t wish it to...
Trust me. I had the GPRS connection deleted from the connection manager. It could not connect thru there at all. I even called them and they said themselves, "there's a portion of the IM that travels thru T-Mobile" They wouldn't tell me for what, just that it has to. Bull**** because when I'm using hacked AIM 2.0 (they block the official AIM 2.0.), guess what? No AIM charges...
But I hate AIM 2.0. The software is ancient and therefore annoying.
How does Tmobile charge you for the AIM message? As data? As a sms?
Like the other guy, I dont understand how Tmobile would even "know" your aiming if you are doing so via WAN. Hmmmmm strange.
hidavi said:
I Hard-SPL'd my Wing and threw Touch-It 4.4 on it. From what I am understanding, this means I can now use my phone with any carrier. Does this also mean that while using it with T-Mobile that they won't be able to charge me for AIM messages that I sent thru wi-fi now? They have a nasty policy of charging for AIM messages even if you send them thru private wifi.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what you said means that Hard SPL " Sim Unclock Herald" Is that true? !!!
chris30_2001 said:
How does Tmobile charge you for the AIM message? As data? As a sms?
Like the other guy, I dont understand how Tmobile would even "know" your aiming if you are doing so via WAN. Hmmmmm strange.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tmobile's OZ instant messaging application allows you to use AIM, YIM and ICQ .. but the catch is, it uses the text plan in order to avoid having to use a data plan. So people use the IM application then get a bill for 1,000,000 SMS messages and they have no idea where it came from.
duprade said:
Tmobile's OZ instant messaging application allows you to use AIM, YIM and ICQ .. but the catch is, it uses the text plan in order to avoid having to use a data plan. So people use the IM application then get a bill for 1,000,000 SMS messages and they have no idea where it came from.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I swear, my OZ messenger would not work if I wasn't on Wifi.
duprade said:
Tmobile's OZ instant messaging application allows you to use AIM, YIM and ICQ .. but the catch is, it uses the text plan in order to avoid having to use a data plan. So people use the IM application then get a bill for 1,000,000 SMS messages and they have no idea where it came from.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah thats exactly the way I understand it. I figured b/c he was talking about going over wireless he was using IM+ or something.
hidavi, have you tried a third party program like IM+ ??
Doesn't matter, they still charge thru IM+. I know cuz for a whole month I used IM+ thru wifi and I got overaged $80 for AIM messages. I swear, if I'm not on data or wifi, my IMs won't go thru, not thru OZ not thru IM+.
This is from a product review
What I didn't know is that it is not a true online instant messenger application. Behind the scenes, it sends instant messages using SMS, and on the other person's end, repackages those SMS messages into the IM application. It seems like a novel idea, but the side effects are awful: OZ Messenger's ability to stay "connected" for chat, report the online/offline status of others, and report YOUR status as online/offline is hit or miss. Sending and receiving messages is also very unreliable. During the three days I struggled through this, roughly half of my messages weren't sent due to a "network error", despite having 4 or 5 bars and a full EDGE connection. (Side note - I'm also worried T-Mobile will bill me for SMS usage when I used this instant messenger)
hidavi said:
Doesn't matter, they still charge thru IM+. I know cuz for a whole month I used IM+ thru wifi and I got overaged $80 for AIM messages. I swear, if I'm not on data or wifi, my IMs won't go thru, not thru OZ not thru IM+.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow doode.....that sucks....
Well, I'm not getting charged nowadays since I'm using hacked AIM 2.0, but I really wish this program had a Today plugin and a easier to use interface...
From what I found in the guts of the registry, OzIM uses a T-Mobile server as a portal for the IM system. Since every IM you send filters through their server, they have full control to see where and what you are sending, saying, seeing, etc, even if you are on a WiFi connection.
I've seen several recommendations for alternate IM systems that Don't Suck. Slick was recommended by somebody, but I haven't personally tried it yet.
are there any free IM's for yahoo messager that will alert you when you get an instant message?
mmmmm Instant massages.
Did you try Fring?
I am using Palringo. It's free and does some nice things, can quickly capture and send a picture (url to it), send voice files.
It also supports Google Talk, Hotmail (i think?).
goto beejive.com and try jivetalk. its a little buggy alpha but still pretty good.
the best one is Agile. it does all the messaging services, it has been around a LONG time, no bugs, very trimmed down but supports video, voice, and it's free...here's a link: http://www.agilemobile.com/
later
Boomstick said:
mmmmm Instant massages.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no, that's what girlfriends are for.
Agile is not free it is $40
i use IM+, but it's not free.
there's also Slick, which is free.
Big Dawg 23 said:
Agile is not free it is $40
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i believe the java version is free, but i could never get it work
i use IM+ myself
defaultdotxbe said:
i believe the java version is free, but i could never get it work
i use IM+ myself
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i must have downloaded an already regg'ed CAB file then, cause ive used mine for over 2 months.
#10, thanks for the info on Slick. I've been using it for a few days and I like it.
Best of all, for me at least, it supports custom status messages and "Idle" time on Yahoo.
Thanks again, I didn't come across it when I was searching for IM clients.
Id use slick but it has problems with away messages and does not play nice with clients such as trillian or pidgin. People dont receive your messages at all. IM+ seems to be the best solution. I tried jivetalk it crashed too much. Palringo was okay but did not support tabbed ims . My only gripe with IM+ is the screen flashes as you hit enter during typing. Almost like flickering. Slick or the others didnt do that.
But IM+ feature wise is very good, and has a today plugin for listing new received ims.
IM+ .Parlingo. Both very good programs.
thepiecesfit said:
Id use slick but it has problems with away messages and does not play nice with clients such as trillian or pidgin. People dont receive your messages at all. IM+ seems to be the best solution. I tried jivetalk it crashed too much. Palringo was okay but did not support tabbed ims . My only gripe with IM+ is the screen flashes as you hit enter during typing. Almost like flickering. Slick or the others didnt do that.
But IM+ feature wise is very good, and has a today plugin for listing new received ims.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my one gripe with IM+ is that when the person you are talking to is using the "official" AIM client it will randomly lock up when they send you a messege
i love that i can do voice chat over agile. it rocks. glad i downloaded a free version on accident, lol. works like a charm.
thepiecesfit said:
Id use slick but it has problems with away messages and does not play nice with clients such as trillian or pidgin. People dont receive your messages at all. IM+ seems to be the best solution. I tried jivetalk it crashed too much. Palringo was okay but did not support tabbed ims . My only gripe with IM+ is the screen flashes as you hit enter during typing. Almost like flickering. Slick or the others didnt do that.
But IM+ feature wise is very good, and has a today plugin for listing new received ims.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been using slick 0.38. I can explain to you how to uninstall .42 and install .38(it involves a reg edit). PM me if you want, or someone reply here if there's enough interest and I'll write up a quick doc for it.
On a more serious note. I am using Fring. But memory consumption is a problem.
Does anybody out there know if there is a way for you to be offline, and shown in your buddies contact list but in away mode, and then when they send you a message maybe it pops up a message on their contact list saying that you are currently away but if they would like to page you that the program would call your phone with an sms message to jump online and log into your IM program?
Confused yet? Me too.
Boomstick said:
On a more serious note. I am using Fring. But memory consumption is a problem.
Does anybody out there know if there is a way for you to be offline, and shown in your buddies contact list but in away mode, and then when they send you a message maybe it pops up a message on their contact list saying that you are currently away but if they would like to page you that the program would call your phone with an sms message to jump online and log into your IM program?
Confused yet? Me too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have uninstalled Fring and am now using Palringo. Much happier. The memory footprint is way smaller. I like the threaded messages and the ability to send recorded voice messages and photos thru IM. I dont use Skype so Fring is just more program than I need.
Hello all.The Windows Live messenger is not staying connected. This seems like an issue that has been around for years. I had it when I had an HTC Wizard ages ago. It seems to be happening alot on both of my HD2 phones. Also, messages are not consistently transmitting. I get the "try again" error.
Questions:
1.) I have even updated Live messenger from the Market and same problem. Is there a fix/better free IM app? I need Live & AIM.
2.) The OZ multi-protocol IM app is preloaded on the T-Mobile US HD2. Does this app use text? I have a feeling it does. The problem is that I do not have unlimited text because I kept our G1 data plans.
Thank You all in advance. )
kevev said:
Hello all.The Windows Live messenger is not staying connected. This seems like an issue that has been around for years. I had it when I had an HTC Wizard ages ago. It seems to be happening alot on both of my HD2 phones. Also, messages are not consistently transmitting. I get the "try again" error.
Questions:
1.) I have even updated Live messenger from the Market and same problem. Is there a fix/better free IM app? I need Live & AIM.
2.) The OZ multi-protocol IM app is preloaded on the T-Mobile US HD2. Does this app use text? I have a feeling it does. The problem is that I do not have unlimited text because I kept our G1 data plans.
Thank You all in advance. )
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
2) nope, it uses data.
kenkiller said:
2) nope, it uses data.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi kenkiller. Are you responding to the OZ multi-protocol messenger question?
kevev said:
Hi kenkiller. Are you responding to the OZ multi-protocol messenger question?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes...........
kevev said:
Hello all.The Windows Live messenger is not staying connected. This seems like an issue that has been around for years. I had it when I had an HTC Wizard ages ago. It seems to be happening alot on both of my HD2 phones. Also, messages are not consistently transmitting. I get the "try again" error.
Questions:
1.) I have even updated Live messenger from the Market and same problem. Is there a fix/better free IM app? I need Live & AIM.
2.) The OZ multi-protocol IM app is preloaded on the T-Mobile US HD2. Does this app use text? I have a feeling it does. The problem is that I do not have unlimited text because I kept our G1 data plans.
Thank You all in advance. )
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To tell you the true... on WM6 I didnt have the error than often... but back 6 or 7 months ago no so sure the exact time WLM start giving me the error(try again) on almost every message than I tried to send... I been looking for a fix but nothing... Im glad you start this thread so someone could help us... In the maintime Im using Beejive is free and nice... thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641613
kenkiller said:
Yes...........
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK. After testing this on T-Mobile US, I can see that it is using my text pool. I also called customer care and they verified this. I will stick with data only apps.
kilrah said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641613
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank You kilrah. I tried nimbuzz, beejive, and palringo. Nimbuz had weird code holes that caused crashing because of missing functions. Beejive is no-longer supported on WinMo and it regularly crashes. Palringo is working good so far(knock on wood). Messages seem to always arive in time. And it has the nice Push to Talk feature.
I think everything will be ok for now. Thank You all for the help!
kevev said:
OK. After testing this on T-Mobile US, I can see that it is using my text pool. I also called customer care and they verified this. I will stick with data only apps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Strange....I'm using that in Singapore, our networks don't allow IM via text, and it works just fine over data.
Of course, I have no idea what T-mobile does to make it different, I can only say that it works on data only for me.
kenkiller said:
Strange....I'm using that in Singapore, our networks don't allow IM via text, and it works just fine over data.
Of course, I have no idea what T-mobile does to make it different, I can only say that it works on data only for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lucky for you
After testing Palringo a bit, it looks like the first message does not always make it to the phone. Also the audio and vibrate notification is not happening on the first few messages.
I am going back to Live Messenger. I called T-Mobile and hopefully there is something wrong with the network in my area causing Live Messenger to disconnect. If that doesn't fix it I am out of ideas.
After disabling Sense UI it seems to at least vibrate on incoming messages now. This will have to do for now. I will file a bug with palringo. I am just glad the messages send and arrive and the app always reconnects after loosing signal.