Has anyone cracked the code on when Google chat on the phone ignores desktop chat and when it doesn't? I have seen that sometimes when I chat with my friends on my desktop, sometimes my phone beeps for every line entered by the other party and sometimes it doesn't. I think in a perfect world, the phone should beep for the "first" line of text, and if I answer on the desktop, it should ignore the rest (but still record them for posterity). And if I answer on the phone, perhaps it should just haptic vibrate for each line of text received after the "first". I say "first" in quotes because I imagine that would be difficult to manage pragmatically. When is it the first chat of a new "session", and when is it just a delay in between chat lines of the same session? Maybe a customizable interval, like say five minutes. If no text is received within five minutes then it is a new session, so beep on the first line?
Lat night I was chatting with a friend (I was on the desktop) and every time he sent something, my phone would beep. Not the best solution in my opinion.
From what I can tell, your phone will receive the message when you do not have the gchat window active on your desktop.
If you click in on the area like you were going to type a message and leave your cursor there, when your friends send messages they don't seem to get sent to the phone. On the other hand, even if you have gchat open on your desktop and you say use a different program or are on a different tab in your browser, then your phone will receive the messages.
At least this is my experience. I think this is the correct behavior as you don't need to get messages in two places when you are actively chatting.
From my experience I use Gchat on my pc everyday when i am at work and I have my phone on my desk near by. When a friend of mine messages me it hits both for the first message, but if i answer on my desktop, it does not hit my phone ever until I sign off of gchat on my pc. Even if it is not focused on the gchat window. I am however using Trillian for my gchat, not sure what you all are using.
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From what I can tell, your phone will receive the message when you do not have the gchat window active on your desktop.
If you click in on the area like you were going to type a message and leave your cursor there, when your friends send messages they don't seem to get sent to the phone. On the other hand, even if you have gchat open on your desktop and you say use a different program or are on a different tab in your browser, then your phone will receive the messages.
At least this is my experience. I think this is the correct behavior as you don't need to get messages in two places when you are actively chatting.
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This is what happens for me as well. Messages go to my phone on the first IM or if I don't have that window active on my desktop.
I am using the built-into-gmail-dot-com google chat. This has definitely happened to me several times before. Last night it happened again. The entire conversation I had with my friend, every time I received a message on my desktop, my phone also beeped. Other times it worked like it was supposed to (beeped the first time and that was it.)
I will see if I can get my wife to help me troubleshoot tonight.
perhaps a topic for a different thread...
I found the chat behavior to be exactly the way DLarva stated:
DLarva said:
From what I can tell, your phone will receive the message when you do not have the gchat window active on your desktop....
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My question (perhaps a dumb one ) is how/where to turn off the notification that you got a chat all together?
I don't want any notification of a chat receipt while I am on the phone.
Any help?
Maybe:
Try (within setting of google talk) turn off notification bar, no vibrate, and set ringtone to silent.
That might approximate no notification.
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I found the chat behavior to be exactly the way DLarva stated:
My question (perhaps a dumb one ) is how/where to turn off the notification that you got a chat all together?
I don't want any notification of a chat receipt while I am on the phone.
Any help?
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thanks for that - have tried to "approximate" no notification, and that's all well and good. . . but not the same as turning it off.
I have looked around in my mobile settings in the google account but can't find it (thought it might be similar to turning on/off notification of appointments in the calendar)...
might just be missing it, but this seems like fairly simple feature. I am nearing feeling ready to root my phone and thought maybe this would be a feature that was only available after doing that. It would have been the final encouragement I need to take that (admittedly not very big) plunge!
I have a rooted Nexus One (CM6 with KOR) and that is as close as I can get to turning them off (that I can find anyway).
This was happening to me, too (when I used Gtalk on the PC, the phone sitting on my desk would sound the alert, with every chat message I rec'd) -- so I just manually signed out of Gtalk on the phone, and it stopped happening. I mostly use Gtalk on desktop anyway. (Though when I check "running processes" on the Vibrant, I see Gtalk always seems to be running -- must start up automatically -- even though I'm signed out...)
exactly Pevvy -
but signing out of Gmail kinda defeats the purpose of having the phone constantly synched. Guess the same argument could be made as to why you want chats saved/synched... anyhoo - I just don't want chat on my vibrant, period. I don't want them saved (so transcription is turned off in gChat on the desktop) and I would never chat from the phone. OK, never say never, but I would rather have to enable that, rather than always having it running using resources.
When I root that would a fun thing to explore to see if it can be deactivated through some custom start-up (so it doesn't show as a running service - I see the same thing) and only starts if I manually start it.
That said, if it is server side associated with the google account (its a hosted domain and that may further change things...) it may not be able to adjust even with root. Interest how this shows the blending/blurring between the net and the synch to the phone - and should data and synch be more push or pull.
Oh, I didn't sign out of Gmail on my phone -- just Gtalk (the chat service)... seems it was keeping me signed in automatically before, and I had to go into the app, and manually sign out.
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Has anybody else found annoying bugs so far? Here's the ones that I've run into:
- Address Book server sync overwrites changes that you've made from the phone (haven't confirmed this one, might be my fault somehow)
- Multimedia volume slider plays your ringtone once you adjust the volume, but plays it at the volume set in the ringtone slider (not the volume that you're actually adjusting)
- Browser bookmarks list has a lot of trouble keeping site icons straight, it just kind of randomly shuffles them around to the wrong site as you load different bookmarks
- AOL Instant Messenger app shows weird behavior, not sure if it's a bug but it is definitely difficult to use in its current state. Locking the phone prevents messages from showing up, then on unlock they stream in all at once, and if you go too long without checking in on it the program will be terminated but your screen name will not be signed out of AOL's server
- There doesn't appear to be any way to set a vibration for notifications like Text Messages or IMs
- Some apps (MySpace Mobile, specifically) do not account for their process being interrupted when the screen rotates and the current action will be cancelled or the program will freeze.
Overall great phone, I'm really extremely impressed with it as a whole so far. I'm amazed at how fast my internet connection is on EDGE, my old Dash was technically on the exact same connection but took 5 or 10 times longer to load a full web page. Even without 3G the web browsing experience is comparable to using my desktop at home.
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- There doesn't appear to be any way to set a vibration for notifications like Text Messages or IMs
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ya there is. for example, go to the main Messaging page where it shows all of your threads. Click on Menu > Settings > Vibrate (put a check mark)
same thing with IMs or EMail
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ya there is. for example, go to the main Messaging page where it shows all of your threads. Click on Menu > Settings > Vibrate (put a check mark)
same thing with IMs or EMail
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Awesome, thank you! Weird that the option isn't available in the same place as setting the vibration function for the phone. Has anybody found solutions to any of these other problems?
Thanks
That fixed it for me. Thanks..its so Funny because Ive been messing around with my phone for 2 days and Just found this answer...Thanks
Android will get it wrong sometimes on sms threads when the sender is not in your contacts.
I noticed yesterday I received an sms from [email protected] and deleted it. Later an sms from +1913XXXXXXX. When I pulled up the my sms folders later, the newer, undeleted sms from the 913 number said it was from @domain.com.
(and the two are in no way related.) I did a reboot and it still displayed the same.
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Has anybody else found annoying bugs so far?
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When I plug my G1 into my iMac the computer freezes and I need to do a hard restart. Is anyone else having this issue? My updates are current on my iMac and all of my other phones work without any problems.
when i play music and i turn of the screen, there is a jump every 15 seconds
here's an email bug...
Go to craigslist.org. I wanted to ask a seller a question. When I email from there, it gives me 2 options, to use my pop 3 email account or gmail. If I use gmail, it takes off the craigslist.org extension and replaces it with gmail.com. If i choose to send with my pop 3, it just opens a blank email without the email address. I try to copy and paste the address into the sending field, but it won't let me. I use craigslist a lot, so this is a bit of a pain...
Otherwise, lovin the G1
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Go to craigslist.org. I wanted to ask a seller a question. When I email from there, it gives me 2 options, to use my pop 3 email account or gmail. If I use gmail, it takes off the craigslist.org extension and replaces it with gmail.com. If i choose to send with my pop 3, it just opens a blank email without the email address. I try to copy and paste the address into the sending field, but it won't let me. I use craigslist a lot, so this is a bit of a pain...
Otherwise, lovin the G1
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When it switches you over to gmail. Is the body filled out or the sender in the field?
no, just replaces the extention
Give it a try see what you find. www.craigslist.org
Actually i did try it and it worked for me.
But, i used the mobile version of Craigslist.
Mobile version of Craigs
I have an interesting questionn - at least it is to me. Working with my daughter and facebook I've found that I have not control at all (technically speaking) over facebook messages to her phone. I am a t-mobile customer, I use family allowances but nothing set in family allowances will block the fb sms from coming in or going out. -this is interesting!
fb comes in as a bulk type sms, it isn't a 10 digit number that can be blocked.
fb messages are not logged as sms messages on the t-mobile site.
Even disabling the phone in family allowances doesn't stop the fb message from coming in.
Thoughts?
Yes, I realize there is more to working with my daughter and facebook from a parenting standpoint, I'm not here to talk about that My thread here is about the technical side of this. What if it weren't facebook? It seems there are sms type messages that can't be blocked from the phone.
isnt that an option from within the facebook website itself? i.e. 'send me a text when i get updates' or something like that?
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isnt that an option from within the facebook website itself? i.e. 'send me a text when i get updates' or something like that?
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Yes it is. But I, like I'm sure many other parents, thought that I could completely control this from family allowances. Since it's supposed to be an sms message and I can stop messaging in many different ways, I assumed that I could enforce our time schedule with the family allowances tool. But - I was wrong
So, yeah I can login to fb and turn that off, I really don't want to go that far with monitoring her though. I could turn the whole messaging service off on her phone, I'm guessing thta would do it - but I don't want to do that and I can go in and physically take the phone from her also - that's all a different subject
I thought it interesting for us phone geeks that a message comes in, isn't logged, can't be tracked, monitored, blocked or controlled.
gotcha.
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I don't have a solution really, but I do suspect that it has to do with how the messages don't have a regular number...I'm guessing that when the fb texts come in, they're tagged with short-form number like "22622" etc, yes? I'm just assuming that based on the behavior of other bulk-source texts, from services like yahoo messenger, and banks, for example. (I have my account setup so I get texts with any account activity).
I would get on the phone with tech support (and not regular customer service, if you can help it) and demand to know why you can't block bulk texts like that...they may have another way than just your regular acct mgmt settings, but I don't know. That's where I would start if it were me
You can only stop the messages one of two ways:
Login to facebook and turn off the "SMS Notification" option.
Send the word "STOP" to the number that the notifications are coming from. This message has to come from her phone.
Both of those options seem to violate the strictures you have placed upon yourself. I guess the next move is yours.
I might also mention that accessing your child's facebook account without her permission is considered hacking and you could get arrested if she contacts the authorities. This is not a joke, there is a case going now along similar lines where a mother did this to a son.
You certainly can't control the time that these messages arrive. These are so-called "opt-in" services and do not count as regular SMS/MMS.
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As a parent, I believe I understand your concerns: The messages come at times where your child should be in school, studying or sleeping.
If this is the case, you might consider creating a "charging area" in the family area (kitchen, living room, downstairs bath, etc). Everyone should leave their chargers here and then drop their phones off in the evening for charging.
Unless your child uses their phone as an alarm clock, this is not an unreasonable request.
This also gives your child the opportunity to build trust with you, as the phone will be left in a semi-public place, where anyone could check the phone for inappropriate content.
For some reason I can't seem to carry out a chat in googletalk. My messages go out instantly, but I don't get replies for ~45 minutes
before you tell me to get new friends, let me assure you that I am receiving replies on desktop GT and on my droidx promptly.
This behavior is consistent, whether I am inside google talk with current conversation selected, or doing something else.
Also, I don't seem to be seeing notifications for new gmail messages either. Those are at least coming in properly though.
Get new friends j/k
I have no problem carrying on multiple conversations with G-Talk. It works fine for me both in Wifi-Mode and on 3G.
When in doubt - Reboot. You may have tried that already but just in case.
I originally asked this in Tasks thread because that is my ROM, but it isn't only his ROM as it has happened before on different phones, but always AOSP.
When I have my phone set to auto-retrieve MMS it does the expected behavior unless the MMS doesn't download correctly the first try. Sometimes I miss the message completely if it doesn't download and sometimes it notifies me with "Message not downloaded tap to retry" but when I tap that it takes me to a messaging screen where that MMS is gone. If I set the phone to not auto-retrieve I can try to download multiple times and I will not lose the message.
I know the logical answer is not to have it auto retrieve, but in a group MMS I have to go to each specific contact and hit download on each message which is counter intuitive to the smart phone.
Again, I don't think this is rom specific because I remember it on my S3 happening a time or two when GroupMMS first came to AOSP, but is there any way to make the phone keep the message in messaging if it fails to download? I used to be able to download GOSMS and use it to find them, but on the S4 they are nowhere to be found with any app I've used so far. Sometimes the message when set to not auto retrieve will just sit and say downloading forever and I have to delete it. It is pretty frustrating. I saw something on Google about it where someone had started the issue but it was for Android 2.2 and it wasn't quite the same issue.
If you haven't seen this, try setting to auto retrieve and have someone send you a bunch of mms, see if you get them all. Sometimes I don't even realize I'm missing them, which sucks too.
Anyone else experiencing this? Anyone fixed it?
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I originally asked this in Tasks thread because that is my ROM, but it isn't only his ROM as it has happened before on different phones, but always AOSP.
When I have my phone set to auto-retrieve MMS it does the expected behavior unless the MMS doesn't download correctly the first try. Sometimes I miss the message completely if it doesn't download and sometimes it notifies me with "Message not downloaded tap to retry" but when I tap that it takes me to a messaging screen where that MMS is gone. If I set the phone to not auto-retrieve I can try to download multiple times and I will not lose the message.
I know the logical answer is not to have it auto retrieve, but in a group MMS I have to go to each specific contact and hit download on each message which is counter intuitive to the smart phone.
Again, I don't think this is rom specific because I remember it on my S3 happening a time or two when GroupMMS first came to AOSP, but is there any way to make the phone keep the message in messaging if it fails to download? I used to be able to download GOSMS and use it to find them, but on the S4 they are nowhere to be found with any app I've used so far. Sometimes the message when set to not auto retrieve will just sit and say downloading forever and I have to delete it. It is pretty frustrating. I saw something on Google about it where someone had started the issue but it was for Android 2.2 and it wasn't quite the same issue.
If you haven't seen this, try setting to auto retrieve and have someone send you a bunch of mms, see if you get them all. Sometimes I don't even realize I'm missing them, which sucks too.
Anyone else experiencing this? Anyone fixed it?
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Do you have any ad blocking software installed such as ad-away or ad-block? If so disable them and see if it works.. These programs I don't know which one exactly were causing this issue on my phone at one time. I disabled them and MMS worked correctly again. I never felt like going in and checking which setting was causing this problem so I just uninstalled them...
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Do you have any ad blocking software installed such as ad-away or ad-block? If so disable them and see if it works.. These programs I don't know which one exactly were causing this issue on my phone at one time. I disabled them and MMS worked correctly again. I never felt like going in and checking which setting was causing this problem so I just uninstalled them...
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I don't. Thanks for that info though. The weird thing is I might even get 9 out of 10 MMS, but randomly one will not download the first try and it just disappears. I'm ok with it not downloading the first try, but if it just disappears and I don't see it I have no idea who it's from or what it was about.
I'm having the same exact problem, OP. I'm rocking a Play Store Galaxy Nexus on AT&T. I miss a lot of group messages and I'm almost ready to switch to an iPhone, or a carrier that does MMS over WiFi.
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I'm having the same exact problem, OP. I'm rocking a Play Store Galaxy Nexus on AT&T. I miss a lot of group messages and I'm almost ready to switch to an iPhone, or a carrier that does MMS over WiFi.
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Don't like the iPhone idea, but I do wonder what else I'm missing. Today I woke up and had 3 text messages showing, but when I clicked the notification I only had one unread. I don't know if it was an incorrect notification or if I lost those sms also. I might download go and leave it on there to see if it helps. So far Handcent hasn't helped. I have it hidden in the background to see if it will catch these. I also got a message that I missed this morning and I'm not sure if it was a resend or if it just randomly came to me, but I got it 4 hours later.
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Don't like the iPhone idea, but I do wonder what else I'm missing. Today I woke up and had 3 text messages showing, but when I clicked the notification I only had one unread. I don't know if it was an incorrect notification or if I lost those sms also. I might download go and leave it on there to see if it helps. So far Handcent hasn't helped. I have it hidden in the background to see if it will catch these. I also got a message that I missed this morning and I'm not sure if it was a resend or if it just randomly came to me, but I got it 4 hours later.
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We're definitely losing messages. Sometimes I get a toast messages "Can't download message from Jane Doe" if I catch it at the right time.
Sometimes it also shows up in my notifications preview, "Jane Doe" but I click on it, it takes me to the Group MMS, but then Jane Doe's message isn't in the thread. It shows up in my friends' iPhone threads though. It's like the phone receives it initially, then just throws it out.
Other times if I miss messages, I get a ton of "Hidden Sender Address" in my notification bar. I tap on it, it's blank. I check my friends' threads, and of course there's some messages I miss.
Like you said, the only reliable way to receive these MMS is to turn off auto-retrieve, but then I'm going into each individual's thread and clicking download a many times. If we're all live group chatting, this is a little intense, but I want to be part of the group...
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We're definitely losing messages. Sometimes I get a toast messages "Can't download message from Jane Doe" if I catch it at the right time.
Sometimes it also shows up in my notifications preview, "Jane Doe" but I click on it, it takes me to the Group MMS, but then Jane Doe's message isn't in the thread. It shows up in my friends' iPhone threads though. It's like the phone receives it initially, then just throws it out.
Other times if I miss messages, I get a ton of "Hidden Sender Address" in my notification bar. I tap on it, it's blank. I check my friends' threads, and of course there's some messages I miss.
Like you said, the only reliable way to receive these MMS is to turn off auto-retrieve, but then I'm going into each individual's thread and clicking download a many times. If we're all live group chatting, this is a little intense, but I want to be part of the group...
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Also, I'm guessing we aren't the only ones dealing with this, but maybe others haven't noticed it yet. It's pretty frustrating.
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Also, I'm guessing we aren't the only ones dealing with this, but maybe others haven't noticed it yet. It's pretty frustrating.
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I found this issue awhile ago in the tracker. Pretty much sums it up, but compound it with group MMS. Look how old the dates are...
FYI - I was having issues with Text/Picture Messaging Not Downloading/Sending with AOSP ROMS.
After some heavy duty Googleing and putting the pieces together from numerous posts across different sites this is what I came up with...
Go to: Settings --> Mobile Networks --> Preferred Network Type
Select: CDMA+LTE/EVOD instead of Global and reboot. (I think AOSP ROMS are set to Global for the purpose of being used worldwide.)
Since I did this my picture messaging works perfectly! Be sure to check this each time you change ROMS or update your current installed ROM.
Someone please help! Having read the very little amount of content I can find so far, I am extremely concerned that somehow some or all of my text messages are being relayed to an email account via the Service (SmsRelayService) that is running under the app Exchange Services.
I don't seem to be able to find anything conclusive, but what I have found is that it is likely to be relaying text messages to an Exchange Account?
I can stop the Service and it stays 'stopped' until a text message is received and it starts running again.
Now have a Note 4, having upgraded because my last handset appeared to have been tampered with and was also behaving in this manner, as well as my Google Location History recording me in places that I never was. On that handset there were even more questionable apps running, one of which appeared to be some form of spyware when searched in Google!
Is there any way that you can dig deep into the operating system of the device and see what is going on?
Is there any way of identifying is my suspicions and those of others that I have seen post similar stories are correct?
One of the reasons I started to question it initially and then look into it was because I was receiving overly descriptive and some unnecessary text messages from someone and at the same time, another device nearby was demonstrating email notification sounds!
Not only that, but certain things that I had not discussed with certain people, but had discussed over text with others (in no way related or connected) were being brought up!
Help please.... is SmsRelayService under the app Exchange Services something to be worried about?????
I was also shocked by the lack of information on this "SmsRelayService" There are tunz of questions out there about it.
After much research and messing with my phone I feel the service is stock BUT can be hijacked by some unknown application to send all texts to a 3rd party. My x was getting my text messages somehow. In her email account i found she had set up a service on her own phone first to test and she would receive every text on the phone and also location. I assume she set it up on her own phone first to figure it out then she put it on my phone. I have a rooted phone with a custom rom. strangely the SmsRelayService had permission for EVERYTHING on my phone. From sms to photos and every single admin right possible. I doubt this is normal for that service. my custom Rom has a "App ops" menu that shows what the service has used or not. In my case it looks like she was only accessing my sms messages. Killing the service did not help as when a new text came in it started back up and accessed the new messages. Once i removed all the permissions for "SmsRelayService" in the "App ops" menu i no longer had the problem of the service accessing the texts. Without this menu option i don’t know how i would have stopped it. I'd assume there is an app or process killer out there that would have been able to shut it down but it'd take someone else with a normal rom to let us know.
in my case I’m lucky it was only sms's. It looks as though whatever she put on my phone was only getting sms's. the app having access to all rights on the phone a better or more in depth spy app/program could have accessed much more. Only spying my sms activity i did not notice ANY extra battery drain. Also this app is known with Microsoft exchange and that messes up a lot of the research. I have never setup any other account but a gmail account so without a link there i don’t know why else it'd been activated in the first place if not for a spy app. I'll try and post back in a few weeks after i'v been able to see if she suddenly doesn’t have information that she shouldn’t know.