Hello All.
I am currently in the process of developing an application to text mobiles via an activesync connected device.
So no subscriptions, no pay per text etc etc.. Simply uses your phone\tarrif to send messages..
I was considering releasing it on here, and wondered what (if any) would the interest be? Would anyone use it?
It's in the early dev stages at the moment... But I am willing to consider BETA testers.
Would you be willing?
Cheers
MikeSel^
yes i would love to help beta your application. let me know when its ready! cheers!
Sounds good, I had a program to do this with my ancient Nokia.
If you can make it provider independent I would love to test it
I would also love to help beta your application. let me know when its ready! Thanks
Would you be able to make it read text's also, so you could use it like an email client - would be easier for me to send texts whilst at work like this.
I would be willing to test.
I would use this daily as i send alot of text messages!
this would be great, my phone is hooked up to activesync the whole time at work and im constantly sending txts.
I can send texts from MS Outlook 2k7, no activesync or phone hookup needed- but I think you have to have Sprint as a carrier and a hotmail account.
Thanks for your replies..
I will add them all to my development plans, and post up once the beta is ready to test.
This will be completely independant from any carriers as it will simply use your phones carrier to send\receive messages!
If you have any feature requests feel free to reply with them now.
Thanks
MikeSel^ said:
If you have any feature requests feel free to reply with them now.
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Ability to browse inbox/sent items if you can please - so no interaction with the phone is needed.
Also, mark messgaes read/unread and delete.
They are all i would probably use. Cheers for the effort man!
Read/Unread... Good idea!!
**Runs off to implement**
KEEP UM COMING!
I use my mobile from desktop by using http://www.jeyo.com/index.asp its not free but works well for me.
I'm very interested in this...
Will you run a client application on the device, or are you directly accessing the data? (RAPI maybe?)
Well the idea stems from Jeyo, I've used it for ages.. But I feel there are parts missing from it. An I like to be able to customize the software to how I want to use it.
I am currently using RAPI with a 'server\client' type thing going on. However I am not sure this will be how it ends up. Depends on how much I can squeese from RAPI.
Looking forward to this mate, should be a good little project for you.
I know what u mean with customizing software that ur using.
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KEEP UM COMING!
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OK, how about supporting command line so that i can send txt msgs using my '.net programs'.
Even better would be to expose a sort of API through a dll file.
I would love that.
Ok, Well my proof of concept exe may help you there.. The exe simply reads from a text file. First line phone number, next line message..
So I have an app that creates the text message copies it to the device and then starts the exe. Which sends the exe,,
So if you want to use this, make the text file in the root of the device and run the exe.
I will build in a similar function to the final version.
Thanks
Mike
cool im looking forward to this. it would be really usefull.
im up for this too....will it work with Vista?
mDesktop is wicked for txtin from tour desktop, if you have ur diamond connected the txts pop up on you monitor 2
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Hi Folks,
This is my first post, although I've owned my XDAIIs for several weeks and I've ROM'd it to the iMATE 1.4 ROM. So I've had a good play.
I was looking at smsOrganizer (from Jeyo) which is badly supported (and it ain't free) and I wondered why I (we) couldn't write something to do the same thing, for free.
Is there a forum for this kind of activity, or could someone point me in the direction of some exmples of how to pass data between the PC and phone?
Best regards
AndrwB
Andrew, look into RAPI: eg here
http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/default.asp?url=/archive/en-us/dnarppc2k/html/ppc_teapppi.asp
Development and Hacking is the right place for this kind of query...what do you want the app to do?
V
Hi V,
Basically I want to control the SMS message transfer on my XDA from Outlook, just like smsOrganizer.
Re. your link, I think we've got those? but I generally write embedded C, non of this fancy C++ stuff :-((
AndrewB
Hi V,
I just tried this :
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307256
And I can now copy files to and from my device
Not bad for 1 hours playing, specially as I've fixed 2 work related bugs too )
Andrew B
Good stuff.
I'm just learning C++ actually, I never learnt C, coming from self-taught VB on the PC.
RAPI is the way to do most PC<>PDA communications, although right now I'm only just getting into sms stuff. It'd be easy enough (I think) to write an interface to create an SMS on the PC in text, transmit that to the PDA and then SMS it off, but the backend of it would require some implementation.
Keep us posted though!
V
99% of c programs should compile and work just fine on
c++ compilers and you can write c++ programs without using
oop in which case they are pretty much c programs
From what I've read it looks as if you need to write an app to sit on the device and another app on the main PC. The app on the phone just acts as an agent passing data between the sms services and the PC.
Anybody got any ideas?
AndrewB
Yipeeeee
I can now write a DLL that sits on the device and I can write a C++ application on my PC to communicate with it
Now to start reading some text messages from the device to the PC......
Does anybody know agood way to send and recieve SMS ?? I would also like to edit the text and pass it to an Edit Box.
I am not too sure about the available API's that will let me do this.
Please HELP :shock:
Hey , i would like to send and recieve SMS on my xda2. Also pass the recieved message into an Edit Control. Does anybody know a good way to do this ??
I know about the SMS API but i am unaware of others. Pleas Help !! thnkx
SMS Auto sending
Hi everybody,
Is there a way to auto send all sms in draft? Basically, every sms in draft folder needs to be send one by one by ticking send button.
OK,
I can now send a text message from my PC to a DLL on my phone using RAPI, then send a SMS using MAPI.
The trouble is I can't get the subject and body fields to display correctly on my XDAIIs. Also I can't get the Name to appear instead of the number.
I'll try to post the code later on the understanding that it is FREE and we pool our experiences/knowledge.
Here is the code for the DLL and the PC program. Just press one of the keys on the tol bar to send the message. The number and message are hard coded.
There are ABSOLUTELY NO guarentees with this code, use it at you own risk.
can it recieve SMS as well ?? Has any body thought about other API's to use for sending and recieving SMS's maybe ?
Well.... Not yet.
This is my first ever .net VC++ program !!!!
There are lots of code snipets around but no full source code.
This is a work in progress project hence it is in the "Development and Hacking" fourm.
If you'd like to add some functionality to it......
I am asking because there seems to be a problem when trying to recieve SMS with SMS api as the HANDLE is already attributed to the messaging application (inbox/draft/outbox).
I believe you are using RAPI ? However i do not understand this API that well could u specify a bit more ?
Thanks for your help.
Hi nutitija,
I'm only using the RAPI function to pass parameters from my PC to the XDA. The actual sending of messages is done using the MAPI in the XDA.
My biggest problem is getting the subject/body and from fields to display correctly in the different XDA mail views.
This app will be for all wm devices.
This is an ongoing project that is in need of some of you guys expertise. The rom of the treo 750v has been dumped and is in need of hacker and developers. The treo 750v has features that NO OTHER wm device does. Like the threaded sms messaging, which is sms in a chat style form.
http://www.palm.com/sg/products/smar...messaging.html is a little more about how it works and what it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758 is a thread in the xda-treo forum, but I feel need to be here due to the fact that it will be for all wm devices and is in need of developers and hackers.
Attached is the rom dump.
Thanks, Cody
in many countries you pay pr. sms much more then you'd pay to send text over grps so for most ppl msn, skype or other IM clients would do the same thing only much cheaper
I am really not sure what the hype is about. Haven't used SMS in a long time a with 100MB data package, I have to agree with Rudegar even the built in MSN messenger is better.
Any way I thought you should know that what you posted is not a ROM dump and cannot be used to extract the app.
Interesting you say that. If you have kids sms messaging is almost a requirement. It is extremely popular with the younger generation. I find myself using it more and more. I have friends that send over 3k sms messages in a month. A threaded sms app sure makes it a much better experience.
The rom dump thread was moved by someone over to the treo section for those wondering where it went. The dump is on the ftp server.
ftp.xda-developers.com
userid: xdaupload pw: xda
file: treo750vrompartial_bcaslis.zip (dump of Part00, Part01 and Part02 partitions)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758
I played with the rom dump yesterday. The messaging app does load, just seems to be missing some resources and/or registry entries that I'm not prepared to import right now (test machines all being used already).
It also appears to be fixed at 240x240, although that can probably be fixed later.
The rest of the rom - doesn't contain many intersting .exes, but I know hannip is interested in a number of the other devices and drivers installed. They don't appear to be device specific (c.f. many eten files are).
In the UK, data contracts are very expensive, and you get loads of SMS bundled in your contracts, so SMS makes sense. I don't IM from my phones. But both have their uses.
But I still can't see the fascination with threaded SMS. It'd be quite straight forward to program even if the treo app can't be sucked out.
V
PS Whoever dumped the roms to begin with, many thanks!
However, we may need to get an overview of the databases on the device as well, in case there are any custom databases. The speed dial plugin that has thus far been elusive relies on a call db. Either a device backup (using sprite etc) or a database dump would be useful to check. Just a guess, might lead to nothing.
Thanks vijay for all of your assistance! Good to hear that the sms app loads. I've been trying to get the a2dp dll's to work on my treo 700wx and 700w devices just to get my feet wet. Having some issues getting the dll's to load, but with your help I might figure this out yet.
The excitement for the 750 sms app over the other threaded sms apps out there is the clean integration with the os and today screen. I've tried other sms threader apps and they are buggy, don't grab messages when the pda is suspended, and leave copies of sms messages in poutlook. The one from triangle powers is a .net app and loads extremely slow because of it. It is expected that the palm written app will solve all of these problems. Plus it handles mms pictues, audio etc.
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
Rudegar said:
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
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Well, I'm someone who wants the SMS chat program badly.
Understand, it's not so much that you use like an IM program, you don't.
This is just a method by which to organize your SMS conversations e.g. say you and your friend over the day send back and forth to each other 20 messages, all releated to the same thing. Now throw in 15 more random SMS from other peopel in the same day. Your inbox would be a mismash of 20 something messages (assuming you don't delete every single one, maybe there is important info you need).
This program would "group" your SMS into a single "chat style thread", like and IM history would. You can then just delete the entire thread at once when you are done with it. It's also nice to keep that previous information handy, especially if your discussing plans, information, phone numbers etc. You just scroll up to find it again.
If you're a heavy texter, this is a great way to organize your back-and-forth conversations. It's not an IM replacment, so don't think of it as that.
In my case I use it as a compliment to AIM. I have AIM forwarding all of my IM's to my cell phone when I am away. That way my friends and family can msgs me anytime anywhere. My phone/pda can remain in suspend mode conserving the battery and I still get my IM's. I can reply to them just like an IM session. No need for the AIM client on my phone.
The best thing about using sms over an IM client is that you can communicate with anyone that has a cell phone. You don't have to tell someone to register with an IM server to send them messages. It works in suspend mode. With a nice sms chat app the only advantage an IM client has over it is the messages are more instantaneous. But for phone use that is acceptable imo.
Of course this all assumes you don't have to pay on a per sms basis.
Hi! theloanranger said he extracted the 750v threaded app already. It's at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1035112&posted=1#post1035112
Can somebody try it and post the screenshots please? I'm so looking forward to using it with my Pocket Loox T830 (not arrived yet)
Screenshots/Need some help!
Screenshots are found here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15
NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:
"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."
Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab
Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...
You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".
Any help/ideas?
www.simulsays.com
I have been using this program for about 3 days now and I must say that it is pretty good. You really have to follow the setup to get it right. I did not select to do the transcribe feature but I am thinking about it now that I like the Visual Voice mail side of the program.
My only downside now is the program is not giving me a notification that I have new emails. They say it is supposed to work......but! The way I overcame this is that on the setup screen, I have notification set to send me a email to let me know. This is a work around but still a great app.
Anyone else using this..........if so let me know what you think and how it is working for you.
CallWave does this too...
...and it is free.
i saw this on boygenius.com. but i also read that the .cab file is only for the smartphone and not for pocket pc.
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I use callwave as well...it's so awesome! I LOVE IT!
Been trying to sign up for callwave but it doesn't recognize my phone number format and I'm in Canada.
How should it be written?
as for simulscribe, yes make sure u follow instructions or it wont work
I tried callwave.....it seems pretty good, but there is not a program for the PPC that will allow you to see each voicemail that you have. It does send to your email. If you have push email turned on, it is ok. SimulScribe still seems to be a little further in with its PPC Visual Voice Mail. Maybe someone will come out with something better quick!
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www.simulsays.com
I have been using this program for about 3 days now and I must say that it is pretty good. You really have to follow the setup to get it right. I did not select to do the transcribe feature but I am thinking about it now that I like the Visual Voice mail side of the program.
My only downside now is the program is not giving me a notification that I have new emails. They say it is supposed to work......but! The way I overcame this is that on the setup screen, I have notification set to send me a email to let me know. This is a work around but still a great app.
Anyone else using this..........if so let me know what you think and how it is working for you.
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You mention you were having problems with email notifications. Does this work with your email, or is it a standalone app (there's not too much info on the simulsays website). Also, the website mentions it's compatible with a few Blackberry devices and Windows Mobile Smartphones (not Pocket PC's). You didn't have any problems installing it?
It is a .cab file that you download. After you do setup on their site and download the cab file, it will update itself with a new .cab. The second .cab is for PPC not smartphone. I have no trouble with anything but it's internal notification. As a side note you can setup a notification via email and this works great. I just hate having to apply this fix! Anyone out there without this problem.
What does transcribed do?
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What does transcribed do?
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You can get your voicemails transcribed and sent to you via email or text message. You have to pay for this feature.
Tomcat - have you noticed any extra battery drain using this app? I'm wondering if it works sort of like push email, where it's constantly checking if you have new voicemail, or if it only works when you actually get a new voicemail.
I'm removing this. My phone doesn't alert me when I have a voice message. I have to go to the program to check. Also the voice mail volume is really really low.
This looked quite cool, but it seems to require a monthly fee for the service (which is fine, but I wouldn't use it enough to make it worthwhile).
However, I am wondering something now....
I have a wizard and it was said that a wizard is not capable of accessing the audio for the phone, but I see that you can "record" calls on a Hermes. I'd guess this is limited to you recording your side, but if you could record/monitor the incoming signal and I have free voicemail, would it be possible to transcribe messages on the phone when the program is activated by an incoming voicemail notification?
Ahhh pipe dreams...
PT Barnum was right
Hi,
I have a T650i and I would like to transfer my SMS from that phone to my Xperia X1.
I've seen many threads explaining how to transfer contacts from older SE-phones, but nothing about SMS. Can it be done? I used to do use MyPhoneExplorer, but since it doesn't support WM, it's not an option anymore.
Thanks
save them to your SIM if possible!?
i remmeber older phones saving SMS on the simcard only. not sure if a winmo phone can use these
Thanks, but the problem is that I have around 900 SMS and the sim only accepts 30.
Is there any other way to do it through the PC?
900sms? i bet 5$ that u dont even need half of them oO
u should to an T650i forum and ask there. once u manage to squeeze te SMS into outlook somehow, u can probably just sync them
achmed20 said:
900sms? i bet 5$ that u dont even need half of them oO
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I write approx. 900 SMS each month and the same amount I get back. But therefore I have hardly any calls. Good for me that I've got a SMS-flatrate
According the problem:
In which file format does myphoneexplorer save the transferred SMS? It has to be possible to convert these to a usable format. Maybe it would be enough to have all the SMS as a text-file on your X1 so you can read through if needed?
I have problems with the X1 everytime I have that much SMS stored (messaging software does not open, it does not respond to key presses and so on)
MyPhoneExplorer saves the SMS archive in many formats: txt, csv, xml, html, right click and export.
I used MyPhoneExplorer to backup sms's on my K800i, i have every single sms i ever received in the K800's lifetime (2 years).
And while in this subject, i'll ask the following question:
Is there in WinMo a way to backup sms like i already do with with K800 and MyPhoneExplorer? a way to backup the sms's and save them to the computer in some readable format?
Since MyPhoneExplorer saves the SMS archive in txt, csv, xml, html, is there any way of transfering them (as sms, NOT as a text file) to the same sms inbox on the X1?
Try SMSimport. It's a freeware that imports and exports in XML. It's a simple exe that you run directly on the phone.
http://wince.nasenbaeren.net/smsimport/
You may have to edit the names of the folders in the XML to make it compatible with your X1.
You can just make an export file from it first to see the XML import structure.
Hi. I'm new to this community and I'm very impressed. Congrats
I've tried once to import SMS via SMSImport, but it always said 'Invalid XML' or sth. like that although I rearranged the order in the XML as SMSImport seemed to want it.
Has anybody solved this issue?
THX
I use OEExport. It exports to Outlook Express with the folders intact (Inbox, Deleted, Sent etc). It has an option to export to xml too, IIRC.
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My question, is why on earth would anyone need to keep all those SMS?
I mean, unless your girlfriend doesn't tell you she loves you enough and you need to keep the texts, or if youre keeping them for evidence (for some reason) or maybe if you have a friend like I do who gets sent joke SMSs and decides to forward 700 of them to you when he's on flatrate weekend SMS just to piss you off because your phone becomes unusable for pretty much the entire weekend.
Please enlighten me.
Would it help if I tell you that some people like to keep records of all their SMS in/out.
I had a girlfriend a few years ago that wrote down every single SMS in a notebook. No, I'm not kidding. She wasn't that much into computers obviously.
0_o
maedox said:
Would it help if I tell you that some people like to keep records of all their SMS in/out.
I had a girlfriend a few years ago that wrote down every single SMS in a notebook. No, I'm not kidding. She wasn't that much into computers obviously.
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Nope, it seems it's still beyond all comprehension of mine. Do you guys also record all voice conversations you make?
I mean, keeping your text messages is hardly like keeping a box of love letters or something now is it?
I'm as much as cyborg as the next guy, I am so electronically inclined that the gadgets I carry and use will probably fuse to me one day anyway, BUT i just don't find anything anyone has to say to me by text _that_ interesting or _that_ important
I'm not taking a swing at you guys or anything, I just really would like to understand, I'm a happier person when i understand things.
Like, ok, I keep the odd text message about things people have said to me, because theyre just downright fantastic for my street cred (if you know what I mean) but that's simply because some of it is just so good, nobody would believe me if i just told them myself, even if i quoted it word for word.
I'm with you. I usually don't need to think twice about throwing away messages when doing a hard reset. Although, as you say, there are some that need to be kept safe forever.
But this is not what the topic's about.
O.k. guys, I'm convinced now. I won't spend any minute anymore in thinking about how to transfer my SMS back. 99% of all that stuff I would rather likely never need again in the future and if I really need it, it is still on my PC.
Nevertheless - thank you!
Greetz
Why backup sms ?
Some of my SMS contain info I need, I am just too lazy to save it when I get it - like an address, or rocket launch code just plain I like to have my SMS conversations available to refresh my memory in case I need it.
From time to time I want to do upgrade or other destructive thing and I don't want to loose my messages. I would like to keep a copy of all my SMS in outlook 2007 but my cheapskate uprising and empty wallet steer me out of paid software, I am going to try programs mentioned in previous posts but if someone knows about some great synchronization or transfer or WhateverYouCallIt software please keep us informed about it.
Thank you all for great site.
i think MOBILedit works for you.
google it for the main website.
hope it helped
Hey guys and girls,
Ive got a Samsung Omnia (please no booing ) and I need an application to hide text and or mms messages. I work overseas from time to time with my business and my wife and I swap MMS and text messages to each other while I am away. Having a new phone means everyone wants to check it out and i certainly do not want anyone stumbling across any MMS or text messages my wife has sent me ;-)
I have already well and truly searched this forum and the only software I can find is by evolvens and it doesn work.
Im sure it couldnt be to hard for someone to code a little piece of software to hide sms or mms depending on who sent it?
Sorry if ive posted in the wrong section, id be willing to pay for the right app and im sure many others would as well.
Cheers
Dave
hey, i ran into a problem in my last relationship where i ended up dating 2 chicks... so i had their sms' saved using ez secret sms 2.0. basically, you can set it up to run in the background, and you set certain contacts to be received in this program instead of outlook. the program can be named anything you want. so i named it something boring like system priority. you click it, and it brings up a calculator. you put in the code you specified, and hit ok... and it opens your "secret inbox." you can also set it to notify you in some way that you received a text from whoever. i set it as "islanders won!" for one chick, and "rangers lost!" for the other... pretty simple program to use, and it works fairly well.
if you want to hide just the pics, you could always just save the pics and encrypt the folder using resco explorer with a password or something. but if you really want to save the actual sms, this program worked fairly well for me.
I agree - SMS Security is great - I use it on my Diamond with no problems
I don't think it willl work with MMS though. As the post above - save the image from your MMS into your main files in a private folder. Call that folder something odd and I'm sure you friends won't open it. If you really want to protect the images, you can lock just that file with Resco or I use VisCrypt
Thanks hays and ou2mame for your input, I will try ez secret sms,
hays is this the same program you use on your diamond?
Thanks again guys
waverdr said:
Thanks hays and ou2mame for your input, I will try ez secret sms,
hays is this the same program you use on your diamond?
Thanks again guys
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Yes it is. It works 100%
It is easy to switch it on and off reverting back to normal diamond SMS
I've emailed the author to suggest a few minor tweaks and will report back