There are a couple of good tools on here, both called Group SMS, which allow you to send a single text to multiple contacts, at the same time. The relationship here is one to many.
I am looking for someone to develop a tool to do the opposite, i.e. the ability to select a number of texts to send to a single contact. The relationship here is many to one.
Is anyone interested in taking this challenge on? The preference would be to further develop one of the group SMS tools to be able to accomplish both tasks from within the same tool rather than having to run yet another small program on the PPC. Alternatively it might be useful to develop a tool that can undertake both core functions, ie one to many and many to one.
I run a HTC Tytn, so I am looking for the application to be optimised for use on this device.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cheers
WB
well you can use threaded sms. it basically gives you a chat style so you can keep typing away.
Sorry Bowlopho, you have completely misunderstood what I want. I don't want to cut & paste into a threaded SMS application, which is what I think you are referring to.
What I want to do is pick up several discreet text messages, all at once, and attach them to a single contact, then send in a one time operation only. I want them to remain as discreet messages when I send them, not blurred into one giant text.
I know exactly what I am looking for. Appreciate your input.
WB
to me sounds like a SMS Bomber with like different messages Yes?
Forgive my ignorance; SMS bomber? Sounds sinister. What does that do?
All I'm looking for is a tool that will let me send several discrete texts to one person in one overall selection process rather than to tediously have to repeat the process for each text message over and over.
The idea is a simple one and is the reverse of the tools already out here that allow one to send a single message to multiple/many contacts.
Thanks
WB
Hiya,
I'll add this to my Pocket SMS Manager, as it should be easy AND someone else requests it.
Pete
Pete,
Good to hear from you. If you are able to blend this into your tool then that would be an excellent result. How long would this take to develop/implement?
PM me if you need more detail in terms of what I am looking for, although it should be sufficiently clear from my posts in here. Incidentally, have not had chance to keep up with developments on your tool. Have you sorted the delays and slow updates, assumed to be caused by Activesync, that I reported to you some time ago?
Let me know.
Cheers
WB
wacky.banana said:
There are a couple of good tools on here, both called Group SMS, which allow you to send a single text to multiple contacts, at the same time. The relationship here is one to many.
I am looking for someone to develop a tool to do the opposite, i.e. the ability to select a number of texts to send to a single contact. The relationship here is many to one.
Is anyone interested in taking this challenge on? The preference would be to further develop one of the group SMS tools to be able to accomplish both tasks from within the same tool rather than having to run yet another small program on the PPC. Alternatively it might be useful to develop a tool that can undertake both core functions, ie one to many and many to one.
I run a HTC Tytn, so I am looking for the application to be optimised for use on this device.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cheers
WB
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WB -
Please elaborate more about what you want - just so that it's very clear your concept request is understood -
Having the idea scope would be helpful:
* What is the benefit of having this tool
* For what major purpose would it serve
* When you mention chaining a few selected texts together to send to one recipient, can you provide a theoretical example?
If you can provide some more detailed walk-through hypothetical scenarios, it would help me as well.
Thanks,
DSO
IMSMS,
Thanks for the response. I will develop some scenarios and email them to you so you can have a clear idea of what I am looking for.
Thanks
WB
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Hi, all...this is my first post and for the subject, I don't think I could have chosen a better one...
I am in the process of looking for a new SMS program...I would LOVE to have the O2 SMS Plus that comes with the new Atom, as it is EXACTLY what I'm looking for...threaded SMS in a chat style...However, until one of you clever folks decides to take on the project, I guess I'll be waiting a while.
JGUI has a product called EXSMS that also performs this task, however, I find it cumbersome to work with, it is not totally stable and there's no use of Contacts, nor is there an immediate way to reply to the individual who SMS'd you, without going through the arduous process of manually entering in the number of the person you wish to message EVERY time you want to message someone different.
Any ideas? I'm also VERY open to a really, good, solid SMS program that doesn't necessarily do threading....
I can't imagine I just got the latest toy and the whole thing made a step backwards...
I cannot send an SMS to a specific group of people among my contacts if not choosing each of them one by one each time...
I have many different group of people I send SMS' to and I was used to have lists on SmartSMS while using a SmartPhone and also distribution lists and categories on Outlook while at the desk...
With Wizard it seems there are no solutions... I have tried almost all of the trial SMS managers out there, but it seems I have no luck...
I've spent the last two days looking for a solution (either within WM5 or as an addon...). No luck...
Do you have any hint ?
Is there anyone wishing to develop something like above explained ?
Thank you very much...
Best regards...
Mix
Yeah, im also intressted in sending sms to a group.
Me too, plz let me know if you find some solution...
for a OS of such quality it is an appalling lapse by MS
We should all email them a support question and ask them if it will be included in the next release??
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We should all email them a support question and ask them if it will be included in the next release??
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I've tried a little bit to use InfoSharp to send SMS to contacts within a category (fortunately there is such chance on this small and nice program...). The program itself is not yet "finished" but it does the job...
I'll post my suggestion to the developer, hoping that growing, it will become better.
About sending our comments to Microsoft: well, I personally think it would be nice, but it would be nicer if our suggestions could be "understood" in any way. It seems to me this rarely happens.
Not to mention the function I'm looking for was present in WM2003SE !!!
Maybe too many shrimps are eaten within MS... ;-)
Ciao
Mix
P.S. Actually ANY SUGGESTION on this matter would help, as it seems there still is not solution...
Hi guys have found an app for sending sms by category group
The app is called 'simplysms' and is developed by a company called visual IT.
It's not windows 5 compatible at the moment although I am waiting for a response from the developers.
I'll keep people posted.
Website: www.visualit.co.uk
SimplySMS mobile 5 will be released in the new year.
good news
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peteborota said:
The app is called 'simplysms' and is developed by a company called visual IT.
It's not windows 5 compatible at the moment although I am waiting for a response from the developers.
I'll keep people posted.
Website: www.visualit.co.uk
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Is seems they have no plans developing any WM5 version of such program, otherwise something would have appeared on their website...
I think then there is no other option to keep a Nokia phone in my pocket too... but then I don't need an HTC pocket PC... I can run with another one with no phone functions as I did in the past...
Any other news ???
Ciao
It is very helpful utility if we can find it
if we can have such an application it will be very greate
SimplySMS for windows 5 will be launched in March
Had an email from Visualit the makers of simplysms. They will be releasing a windows mobile 5 version of the software in March this year.
It will allow users to send a text to a outlook category of contacts.
Hold on it's round the corner.
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peteborota said:
Had an email from Visualit the makers of simplysms. They will be releasing a windows mobile 5 version of the software in March this year.
It will allow users to send a text to a outlook category of contacts.
Hold on it's round the corner.
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march ? March ? MARCH ???
It's on next century !!! I'll have switched to another phone by that date...
I'll have to wait then, but I'm looking around for another solution... pretty tired of hand-choosing between my contacts...
Thanks a lot anyway... the fault is not yours... it's MS' first of all...
Ciao
You could create a shortcut with the recipients pre-listed. E.g.
Text message colleagues.lnk
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -service ""
Will prompt the messaging app with a new message. If you last used Hotmail/whatever, though - it won't start a new text message, but a new e-mail/whatever.
If you want to be able to pick the account, use instead:
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx"
If you want to add a default message, use :
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -body "Text here"
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You can also use vijay555's VJSMS to always send a text message, regardless of what account you're in.
32#"\Program Files\vijay555\VJSMS.exe" "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -body "Text here"
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJPhoneTools
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Essentially, all the above are more like 'templates' than they are group text message tools. If you have a new person you want to add to a 'group', you'll have to manually adjust the shortcut.
On the other hand - it's available now, and freely.
ZeBoxx said:
You could create a shortcut with the recipients pre-listed. E.g.
Text message colleagues.lnk
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -service ""
[...omissis...]
Essentially, all the above are more like 'templates' than they are group text message tools. If you have a new person you want to add to a 'group', you'll have to manually adjust the shortcut.
On the other hand - it's available now, and freely.
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Thank you very much for the helpful hint... the main problem anyway is always the same: I use distribution lists so I don't have to bother on updates of contacts details. I just keep them updated and I have the result.
There is anyway a major problem on the hint you just gave me: line limitation...
WM5 accepts for example multiple recipients on the "To:" field but the problem is I still do not know which is the maximum number (I suppose it depends on how long the "To:" field can be, maybe max 255 char.).
The same problem applies to your hint: I suppose there is still the limitation of 255 chars... or not ? ;-)
Thanks anyway.
yeah, I have no idea what the maximum length is
Of course, for Dutch numbers, 10 chars length, 11 if I include that semicolon, that's still 25 numbers Sending an SMS to 25 people should be more than enough for me
You could also write a mort script to call VJSMSSend a gazillion times :>
The former issue is the bigger one - I hate updating lists, myself. There shouldn't be anything holding developers back from implementing mailing lists, using info from the contacts POOM, and setting up SMS's (setting up and sending an SMS is a MSDN example, so.. pff)
I'm no developer, though - I just managed to get "Hello world" running a few days ago, and then I got sick - so no long computer times for me
SMS Distribution Lists
Having Upgraded to a qtek 9100 from a nokia 9300 communicator for better windows/outlook compatibility etc, I have been searching for something to fill the gap for SMS Distribtion lists.
I understand from reading other posts than previous versions of Windows mobile did offer this, aswell as being able to play different ringtones depending on chich caller group a call was originating from.
Has there been any new information on SMS Distribution lists for the HTC Wizard phones?
Also, is there any way to actually just select "send new txt message" rather than go to messaging and browse to the correct account/ folder to achieve this?
Regards
Jass
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jasvinder said:
Having Upgraded to a qtek 9100 from a nokia 9300 communicator for better windows/outlook compatibility etc, I have been searching for something to fill the gap for SMS Distribtion lists.
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Welcome in the "unsatisfied club"...
I understand from reading other posts than previous versions of Windows mobile did offer this, aswell as being able to play different ringtones depending on chich caller group a call was originating from.
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I have never seen, nor in previous versions, a real "group" as we were used with Nokias...
Some thirdy party programs do that anyway (and it's good enough such programs exists...).
Has there been any new information on SMS Distribution lists for the HTC Wizard phones?
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Unfortunately, no... I have been looking around for a lot of time and finally I found a solution: I kept a Nokia 6230 in my bag, just for this kind of use...
I know, it's stupid... but much more less stupid than preventing me using this feature on a WM5 device !!!
Also, is there any way to actually just select "send new txt message" rather than go to messaging and browse to the correct account/ folder to achieve this?
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Different approach: select the contact you need to send the SMS to and select "Send new SMS" from the options. You'll have the editor opening with the "To:" field already filled...
Hope this helps a little...
Ciao
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jasvinder said:
Also, is there any way to actually just select "send new txt message" rather than go to messaging and browse to the correct account/ folder to achieve this?
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Download the attached file, extract the included shortcut to your PPC, and run it - see if that works for you. If it does, you'll note that there's "to" and "body" fields that you can fill out if you want (e.g. a pre-composed message to your boss saying that you'll be on your lunch break)
For some more advanced SMS stuff, try VJPhoneTools:
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJPhoneTools
Or one of the many commercial SMS apps
The download when unzipped only contains a shortcut which is not valid.
CAn we download it from your website?
it's supposed to only contain a shortcut
Code:
32#windows\tmail.exe -service "SMS" -to "" -body ""
If you don't have a "tmail.exe" in your device's "Windows" folder, then indeed it's probably invalid. Try searching for that file on your device, see if it's elsewhere. If it's not, or you can't find it, just use one of VJ's tools instead
Group sms
O2SMSPlus is out and about, it's for wm5 and does group sms.
Hi!
I'm asking here if there is around a simple but valid flash sms sender, with GUI and access of outlook's phonebook... possibly with anonymous sender...
Searched a lot on the internet but found too crappy softwares...
cheers, Moccij
Hi MocciJ,
Have you tried Vijay555's tool for this type of sms? I know it's capable, but I'm unsure about the gui & contact integration part you want. You can find it @ www.vijay555.com
Regards, M
Already seen it..
But I'm looking to something qith contacts and some sort of GUI, maybe only for typing in the mex, the phone number from the contacts, and a send button..
Another app I've seen includes this minimal GUI, but no contacts and no copy and paste option..
Maybe I'm asking too much if I want it to integrate with outlook? Is it possible?
Many thanks, MocciJ
I'm sure it can be done, this integration with outlook. TomTom has it's added its 'contact navigation' option & Richard Owens the 'file as first last' option.
The question will be who's going to do it. Try to contact Vijay maybe he can do it for you, although I know he got a lot of stuff on his head lately.
M
Will contact him
Flashy messages rulez!! :lol:
MocciJ
Guys, Class 0 requires sending through a custom app, it's not a simple switch you check within outlook. As such, an Outlook plugin can grab the details of the contact, perhaps, but will then have to jump into its own GUI to do the text message creation and sending etc.
It's feasible, but just a pain in the backside to do GUIs right now...
However, I'm thinking about doing an app that will hopefully integrate such features at some point after a couple of more urgent things first...
V
Vijay,
By no means I'm pushing or rushing you to create this app. The general idea you sketch is just what I had in mind as the solution.
off topic: I see you moved to a new place :-( Hope everything is still ok with the family, especially with Alexander.
Have to get the kids to school & write you laterrrr,
M
an interface for sending class 0 sms would be very cool. Ive made up a basic interface that uses vijays program but its pretty crappy, just two boxs for text and the phone number and a send button :lol: thats about as far as my vb skills go!
Well, I haven't VB skills at all :wink:
Ryanmt:
I've tried carty flash messenger, which has the same GUI as your app, but no paste and phonebook if the app u compiled has cut and paste options at least, then we're at a good point (since u can copy the number from the phonebook and paste into the program ) can u post the app here?
Cheers, MocciJ
just hunting on the net to find some info on accessing contacts
who'd ahve thought they would make it so hard to add a paste option :S
if anybody could give me some pointers ide be willing to have a go at making it all work. But as it stands i could write it easily in java but dont understand the tutorials for C#
glad to see that there are upgrades... flashy sms are pretty cool... Must thank Ryanmt..
Best regards, MocciJ
Have you tried Jgui A.SMS ? It can send class0 smses.
hmm, I wanted a some more simplier app, just as Ryanmt thought.. But in any case I'll try it :wink:
MocciJ
I saw one in the msdn site
you can change in the provider options to change betweent classes
the example there sends in class 0
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnnetcomp/html/netcfsendsms.asp
This app will be for all wm devices.
This is an ongoing project that is in need of some of you guys expertise. The rom of the treo 750v has been dumped and is in need of hacker and developers. The treo 750v has features that NO OTHER wm device does. Like the threaded sms messaging, which is sms in a chat style form.
http://www.palm.com/sg/products/smar...messaging.html is a little more about how it works and what it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758 is a thread in the xda-treo forum, but I feel need to be here due to the fact that it will be for all wm devices and is in need of developers and hackers.
Attached is the rom dump.
Thanks, Cody
in many countries you pay pr. sms much more then you'd pay to send text over grps so for most ppl msn, skype or other IM clients would do the same thing only much cheaper
I am really not sure what the hype is about. Haven't used SMS in a long time a with 100MB data package, I have to agree with Rudegar even the built in MSN messenger is better.
Any way I thought you should know that what you posted is not a ROM dump and cannot be used to extract the app.
Interesting you say that. If you have kids sms messaging is almost a requirement. It is extremely popular with the younger generation. I find myself using it more and more. I have friends that send over 3k sms messages in a month. A threaded sms app sure makes it a much better experience.
The rom dump thread was moved by someone over to the treo section for those wondering where it went. The dump is on the ftp server.
ftp.xda-developers.com
userid: xdaupload pw: xda
file: treo750vrompartial_bcaslis.zip (dump of Part00, Part01 and Part02 partitions)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758
I played with the rom dump yesterday. The messaging app does load, just seems to be missing some resources and/or registry entries that I'm not prepared to import right now (test machines all being used already).
It also appears to be fixed at 240x240, although that can probably be fixed later.
The rest of the rom - doesn't contain many intersting .exes, but I know hannip is interested in a number of the other devices and drivers installed. They don't appear to be device specific (c.f. many eten files are).
In the UK, data contracts are very expensive, and you get loads of SMS bundled in your contracts, so SMS makes sense. I don't IM from my phones. But both have their uses.
But I still can't see the fascination with threaded SMS. It'd be quite straight forward to program even if the treo app can't be sucked out.
V
PS Whoever dumped the roms to begin with, many thanks!
However, we may need to get an overview of the databases on the device as well, in case there are any custom databases. The speed dial plugin that has thus far been elusive relies on a call db. Either a device backup (using sprite etc) or a database dump would be useful to check. Just a guess, might lead to nothing.
Thanks vijay for all of your assistance! Good to hear that the sms app loads. I've been trying to get the a2dp dll's to work on my treo 700wx and 700w devices just to get my feet wet. Having some issues getting the dll's to load, but with your help I might figure this out yet.
The excitement for the 750 sms app over the other threaded sms apps out there is the clean integration with the os and today screen. I've tried other sms threader apps and they are buggy, don't grab messages when the pda is suspended, and leave copies of sms messages in poutlook. The one from triangle powers is a .net app and loads extremely slow because of it. It is expected that the palm written app will solve all of these problems. Plus it handles mms pictues, audio etc.
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
Rudegar said:
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
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Well, I'm someone who wants the SMS chat program badly.
Understand, it's not so much that you use like an IM program, you don't.
This is just a method by which to organize your SMS conversations e.g. say you and your friend over the day send back and forth to each other 20 messages, all releated to the same thing. Now throw in 15 more random SMS from other peopel in the same day. Your inbox would be a mismash of 20 something messages (assuming you don't delete every single one, maybe there is important info you need).
This program would "group" your SMS into a single "chat style thread", like and IM history would. You can then just delete the entire thread at once when you are done with it. It's also nice to keep that previous information handy, especially if your discussing plans, information, phone numbers etc. You just scroll up to find it again.
If you're a heavy texter, this is a great way to organize your back-and-forth conversations. It's not an IM replacment, so don't think of it as that.
In my case I use it as a compliment to AIM. I have AIM forwarding all of my IM's to my cell phone when I am away. That way my friends and family can msgs me anytime anywhere. My phone/pda can remain in suspend mode conserving the battery and I still get my IM's. I can reply to them just like an IM session. No need for the AIM client on my phone.
The best thing about using sms over an IM client is that you can communicate with anyone that has a cell phone. You don't have to tell someone to register with an IM server to send them messages. It works in suspend mode. With a nice sms chat app the only advantage an IM client has over it is the messages are more instantaneous. But for phone use that is acceptable imo.
Of course this all assumes you don't have to pay on a per sms basis.
Hi! theloanranger said he extracted the 750v threaded app already. It's at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1035112&posted=1#post1035112
Can somebody try it and post the screenshots please? I'm so looking forward to using it with my Pocket Loox T830 (not arrived yet)
Screenshots/Need some help!
Screenshots are found here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15
NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:
"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."
Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab
Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...
You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".
Any help/ideas?
Hello All.
I am currently in the process of developing an application to text mobiles via an activesync connected device.
So no subscriptions, no pay per text etc etc.. Simply uses your phone\tarrif to send messages..
I was considering releasing it on here, and wondered what (if any) would the interest be? Would anyone use it?
It's in the early dev stages at the moment... But I am willing to consider BETA testers.
Would you be willing?
Cheers
MikeSel^
yes i would love to help beta your application. let me know when its ready! cheers!
Sounds good, I had a program to do this with my ancient Nokia.
If you can make it provider independent I would love to test it
I would also love to help beta your application. let me know when its ready! Thanks
Would you be able to make it read text's also, so you could use it like an email client - would be easier for me to send texts whilst at work like this.
I would be willing to test.
I would use this daily as i send alot of text messages!
this would be great, my phone is hooked up to activesync the whole time at work and im constantly sending txts.
I can send texts from MS Outlook 2k7, no activesync or phone hookup needed- but I think you have to have Sprint as a carrier and a hotmail account.
Thanks for your replies..
I will add them all to my development plans, and post up once the beta is ready to test.
This will be completely independant from any carriers as it will simply use your phones carrier to send\receive messages!
If you have any feature requests feel free to reply with them now.
Thanks
MikeSel^ said:
If you have any feature requests feel free to reply with them now.
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Ability to browse inbox/sent items if you can please - so no interaction with the phone is needed.
Also, mark messgaes read/unread and delete.
They are all i would probably use. Cheers for the effort man!
Read/Unread... Good idea!!
**Runs off to implement**
KEEP UM COMING!
I use my mobile from desktop by using http://www.jeyo.com/index.asp its not free but works well for me.
I'm very interested in this...
Will you run a client application on the device, or are you directly accessing the data? (RAPI maybe?)
Well the idea stems from Jeyo, I've used it for ages.. But I feel there are parts missing from it. An I like to be able to customize the software to how I want to use it.
I am currently using RAPI with a 'server\client' type thing going on. However I am not sure this will be how it ends up. Depends on how much I can squeese from RAPI.
Looking forward to this mate, should be a good little project for you.
I know what u mean with customizing software that ur using.
MikeSel^ said:
KEEP UM COMING!
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OK, how about supporting command line so that i can send txt msgs using my '.net programs'.
Even better would be to expose a sort of API through a dll file.
I would love that.
Ok, Well my proof of concept exe may help you there.. The exe simply reads from a text file. First line phone number, next line message..
So I have an app that creates the text message copies it to the device and then starts the exe. Which sends the exe,,
So if you want to use this, make the text file in the root of the device and run the exe.
I will build in a similar function to the final version.
Thanks
Mike
cool im looking forward to this. it would be really usefull.
im up for this too....will it work with Vista?
mDesktop is wicked for txtin from tour desktop, if you have ur diamond connected the txts pop up on you monitor 2