This app will be for all wm devices.
This is an ongoing project that is in need of some of you guys expertise. The rom of the treo 750v has been dumped and is in need of hacker and developers. The treo 750v has features that NO OTHER wm device does. Like the threaded sms messaging, which is sms in a chat style form.
http://www.palm.com/sg/products/smar...messaging.html is a little more about how it works and what it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758 is a thread in the xda-treo forum, but I feel need to be here due to the fact that it will be for all wm devices and is in need of developers and hackers.
Attached is the rom dump.
Thanks, Cody
in many countries you pay pr. sms much more then you'd pay to send text over grps so for most ppl msn, skype or other IM clients would do the same thing only much cheaper
I am really not sure what the hype is about. Haven't used SMS in a long time a with 100MB data package, I have to agree with Rudegar even the built in MSN messenger is better.
Any way I thought you should know that what you posted is not a ROM dump and cannot be used to extract the app.
Interesting you say that. If you have kids sms messaging is almost a requirement. It is extremely popular with the younger generation. I find myself using it more and more. I have friends that send over 3k sms messages in a month. A threaded sms app sure makes it a much better experience.
The rom dump thread was moved by someone over to the treo section for those wondering where it went. The dump is on the ftp server.
ftp.xda-developers.com
userid: xdaupload pw: xda
file: treo750vrompartial_bcaslis.zip (dump of Part00, Part01 and Part02 partitions)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758
I played with the rom dump yesterday. The messaging app does load, just seems to be missing some resources and/or registry entries that I'm not prepared to import right now (test machines all being used already).
It also appears to be fixed at 240x240, although that can probably be fixed later.
The rest of the rom - doesn't contain many intersting .exes, but I know hannip is interested in a number of the other devices and drivers installed. They don't appear to be device specific (c.f. many eten files are).
In the UK, data contracts are very expensive, and you get loads of SMS bundled in your contracts, so SMS makes sense. I don't IM from my phones. But both have their uses.
But I still can't see the fascination with threaded SMS. It'd be quite straight forward to program even if the treo app can't be sucked out.
V
PS Whoever dumped the roms to begin with, many thanks!
However, we may need to get an overview of the databases on the device as well, in case there are any custom databases. The speed dial plugin that has thus far been elusive relies on a call db. Either a device backup (using sprite etc) or a database dump would be useful to check. Just a guess, might lead to nothing.
Thanks vijay for all of your assistance! Good to hear that the sms app loads. I've been trying to get the a2dp dll's to work on my treo 700wx and 700w devices just to get my feet wet. Having some issues getting the dll's to load, but with your help I might figure this out yet.
The excitement for the 750 sms app over the other threaded sms apps out there is the clean integration with the os and today screen. I've tried other sms threader apps and they are buggy, don't grab messages when the pda is suspended, and leave copies of sms messages in poutlook. The one from triangle powers is a .net app and loads extremely slow because of it. It is expected that the palm written app will solve all of these problems. Plus it handles mms pictues, audio etc.
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
Rudegar said:
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
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Well, I'm someone who wants the SMS chat program badly.
Understand, it's not so much that you use like an IM program, you don't.
This is just a method by which to organize your SMS conversations e.g. say you and your friend over the day send back and forth to each other 20 messages, all releated to the same thing. Now throw in 15 more random SMS from other peopel in the same day. Your inbox would be a mismash of 20 something messages (assuming you don't delete every single one, maybe there is important info you need).
This program would "group" your SMS into a single "chat style thread", like and IM history would. You can then just delete the entire thread at once when you are done with it. It's also nice to keep that previous information handy, especially if your discussing plans, information, phone numbers etc. You just scroll up to find it again.
If you're a heavy texter, this is a great way to organize your back-and-forth conversations. It's not an IM replacment, so don't think of it as that.
In my case I use it as a compliment to AIM. I have AIM forwarding all of my IM's to my cell phone when I am away. That way my friends and family can msgs me anytime anywhere. My phone/pda can remain in suspend mode conserving the battery and I still get my IM's. I can reply to them just like an IM session. No need for the AIM client on my phone.
The best thing about using sms over an IM client is that you can communicate with anyone that has a cell phone. You don't have to tell someone to register with an IM server to send them messages. It works in suspend mode. With a nice sms chat app the only advantage an IM client has over it is the messages are more instantaneous. But for phone use that is acceptable imo.
Of course this all assumes you don't have to pay on a per sms basis.
Hi! theloanranger said he extracted the 750v threaded app already. It's at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1035112&posted=1#post1035112
Can somebody try it and post the screenshots please? I'm so looking forward to using it with my Pocket Loox T830 (not arrived yet)
Screenshots/Need some help!
Screenshots are found here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15
NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:
"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."
Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab
Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...
You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".
Any help/ideas?
Our Blackberry's have a way called "Level 1 Messages" to react differently to incoming emails based upon Sender and/or Subject text. This can include playing a different notification alarm and/or vibrating.
I'm trying to implement the same functionality into our new Cingular 8525 devices (WM5) and I'm not having much luck.
I've tried working with the POOM (Pocket Outlook Object Model) and it seems that doesn't cover incoming emails.
I then tried looking into MAPI and it seems that Messaging related issues only deal with SMS messages. We receive our Exchange email via Activesync over OWA (I think) and so that leaves MAPI out.
I am both amazed that this is that difficult and amazed that there aren't 500 questions related to this already here as I thought this would be a VERY common need.
If I can't figure this out, we'll have to go back to Blackberry and that's not what I want to do.
I looked at the software phoneAlarm and it supposedly has this functionality but it is very unstable and we could never get the Custom Email alerts working.
TIA - any help at all will be greatly appreciated.
Yes, I searched first and followed all those goose chases but I still have not found a working solution.
try the new phonealarm from pocketmax.net. it offers custom email and smsalarms by sender or content
sebi112 said:
try the new phonealarm from pocketmax.net. it offers custom email and smsalarms by sender or content
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Well, as I stated in my post:
techstyled said:
I looked at the software phoneAlarm and it supposedly has this functionality but it is very unstable and we could never get the Custom Email alerts working.
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I actually got the Custom Email alerts working. The problem I was having is that his "Contains" process only works if the searched for word is bounded by spaces... which is a very poor method. For example, we have an established procedure at our work for proceeding all mission critical messages with the word "critical -" and then the subject. But, since that first word isn't proceeded by a space, he doesn't trigger on that. I would have to get my work to agree to change to " critical -" (note the all important proceeding space).
That's just stupid, IMO.
And until he fleshes out his program a bit more, I'm going to have to find an alternative.
Hey
Firstly I'd like to thank everyone for all the help you've provided me with, I've been searching all over this forum and have found more useful stuff than any "official" resource. Forums kick ass.
now onto my, quite possibly n00bish, question...
How would I go about changing the file-format <--> program-associations in WM6(ATT tilt)?
and also, this might be beating a dead horse, but I'm one of the many individuals still whining and crying about that memory error with cody's threaded SMS program, and couldn't find any posts mentioning a way to get the standard (oem) messaging program to open from any MMS alerts, while still having cody's app to handle the sms alerts...
or are sms alerts and mms alerts too similar to have WM6 open two different programs?
thanks again
Has anyone successfully got phonealarm working on a Titan or under WM6.1?
I have a new work VX6800 and dont want to get woken up for status emails at 3am, but do want to know if there is a problem. So I set up phonealarm to sound only for specified email addresses.
So far the different profiles have only got me a phone that alerts for every mail or no mails! not quite what I was after.
I can go in to more detail of my config if anyone can help. I also have a test case open with phonealarm, and will update if I get a reply if anyone has the same issues.
Thanks
Yes, I have it working
I have it working and my trial just expired so I need to go buy it. It seems to be the best app to accomplish the goal, I'm in the same boat and use it as you described.
I was hoping it would also work with Pocket Informatn but it looks like the other app they sell will do that so I think I need to buy both.
If you get me more details on what you setup I can tell you what I did. My alerts are based on different subject messages / priorities on my inbound txt (SMS). I've not yet worked on different times (can't recall if it does that) but do notice that different profiles do in fact impact the sounds played.
-Scott
Thanks for the reply, at least I know that there is not a hardware issue now. PocketMAX support also replied and said it was something to do with the repeating alarms that I set to "no alert".
I will test this later and see how I get on.
PA
I have been using phone alarm since it was in its 1.0 state.
I have my phone updated to 6.1 and it works fine.
Hi,
I use my HD2 with exchange synchronisation. It works well with one big problem!
My Exchange sorted the incoming mails to several folders. The problem is that I only get a notification if a mail is incomming directly to the main folder of my mailbox. If a mail was sortet in a subfolder there is no notification. Is there a reg tweak or something else to learn the HD2 to beep every time when a new mail arrives?
It would be great if this is possible, because currently i have to look to all folders the see if there is a new mail.
Ghostraider
Same here...
I love to know a way to do a new mail notification on 'folders' too. However, I recall it did this on my iPhone too, so I'm not holding out too much hope!
Does no-one have a solution for this - it's driving me nuts ! The only thing that I've found in my searches on the 'net is the something from blackmonlabs called message-notify (I can't post the URL due to restrictions in this forum, but Googling it should turn it up)
This would work, but is going to screw up the lovely home page of the HD2, so is not really practical. What I'm looking for is something that will display a count of ALL unread messgaes irrespective of whether they are in the Inbox or have been automatically moved to a subfolder. Obviously this should be displayed in the Email notification icon.
If anyone can come up with a solution, I (and many others judging by what I'm reading elsewhere) would be very grateful !