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Just got an XDA Exec, first time PPC user, moving from Palm.
Installed AS 4.0 - no problem
Synced - no problem
Wifi connection to my router - disconnected when Exec plugged in
When I plug in the Exec, a new ip address is created for my laptop in the
169.xx... range. (Local Area Connection , Device: Windows Mobile Device shows up in Network Connections)
Then when the sync starts, the firewall asks if activesync can communicate with another IP address in the 169.xxx.... range (I assume this is the Exec's address)
Sometime during this process, the wireless connection drops. When I unplug the exec, the wireless connection starts working, but drops out every few seconds, and then connects again.
I have to reboot to get a stable wifi connection.
Using Windows XP Pro, 802.11g, Kerio Firewall
Anyone with any ideas ?
Thanks
I have a simular problem, i have a toshiba Portege with built in WiFi, it also has toshiba software than when you "dock it" or plus in a RJ45 network cable, it will disconect the wireless, and vise versa, if you "un dock it" or unplug the RJ45 it will enable the wireless connection.
the has worked for years using activesync 3.8, 4.0 and 4.1 with my XDA2i and XDA2s.
I just got my XDA Exec and just pluged in the usb cable to sync, (activesync works fine) but my laptop then thinks i have a new 10mbs wired connection, so it disables my wireless lan, if i then disable the new conection made, the laptop reverts back to wireless but then it kills the activesync.
so agin Activesysc 4.1 did NOT do this the 2i and 2s but DOSE with the Exec
John
I would not care if it did not work only while the exec was plugged in as it is usually only for a short time while syncing. The big problem is that the wireless connection does not work properly after I unplug the exec. I need to reboot to get it to work again in a stable manner.
Have searched all over the place, have found no info, but did run into a post by a chap in Japan that seems to have a similar problem:
http://www.pocketpcjunkies.com/Uwe/...veSync-4-0-disables-wireless-networking-on-PC
I agree its not a bad problem of it disconecting whilst AS is syncing, but i leave mine in to charge.
at least my WiFi works fine as soon as i remove the USB cable. So i just plug the jasjar into a mains charger and activesync over bluetooth. Could you not do this as well as a tempory solution
John
I charge my Exec on mains so that's not a problem. I'm going to try solving this for a little while longer and then will have to try using bluetooth. Don't have a BT dongle for the laptop so I thought I would try to solve this first before going out to get one.
Lucky for me my laptop also has Bluetooth built in. I did on the XDA2i once manage to do activesync over wireless lan (the xda and laptop both connected to the same router/access point, even after doing some port forwarding i never got to work from other locations back to my laptop at home
cant remember how to set it up, but maybe this is a tempery fix for you rather than getting a BT dongle
Here's a followup
Tried the following things:
1) Disabled the wireless connection, and connected using an ethernet
cable.
Then plugged in Exec and synced. Wired connection held up fine throught
the sync. (When I plugged in the Exec, AS said that the exec was
already being synced to another pc called "Windows PC" so I should give
this pc a new name "Windows PC 2", to separate it out. However, it's
the same laptop! I guess this is because the wired connection gave my
laptop a different ip than the
wireless? - not sure about this). ANyway, no problem witht he
connectiong, before, during or after syncing/connecting the Exec.
2) With a freshly booted laptop and a working wi-fi connection Killed
the wcescomm and wcesmgr processes after syncing. Made no difference.
Wireless connection stil out. Had to reboot.
3) Finally, with a freshly rebooted laptop with a stable wireless
connection, I
- diabled the wireless adapter in Network Connections
- plugged in an ethernet cable, got a good connection
- plugged in the exec
- synced with the wired connection on
- checked that the wired connection was okay
- unplugged the ethernet cable
- enabled the wireless adapter
And no go, no stable connection to the router - until a reboot.
Then finally narrowed it down:
This may seem strange, but the problem with the wireless connection
only occurs if I am using WPA-PSK encryption (which I was using when I
started) on the wireless net. It does not happen if I use WEP or no
encryption. I have changed the security settings (and nothing else)
repeatedly and can recreate this at will.
Also, it has to be the AS 4.0 /Exec causing the problem as I have no
issues with connectivity until I connect the Exec. This too I have
repeatedly checked to ensure that I rule everything else out.
This issue is less to do with ActiveSync 4.X than the version of your Win Mobile OS. Are you running WM5 in your device because if so, it will do exactly that as you described.
For WM3 devices, you can have both AS (both V3.X and V4.X) and WiFI active concurrently. My guess on this is that the MSFT designers are trying to simplify the network side for multi-home devices (to borrow an old IP term here). If both network adaptors were allowed to be up as in the case of WM3, how does the device decide which is the preferred route when you can active sync to your PC via WiFI also ?
What happens to existing sessions when network routes are dynamically altered within the device, etc and so on?
This raises a whole host of issues which need to be thought through.
For that matter have you tried to configure your XP PC with a fixed LAN and WiFi connection and just try telling it to route intelligently by your LAN card instead of WiFi ? :roll:
I can confirm mrandery's findings. I had the same problem. Setting the wireless encryption to Web instead of WPA solved the problem for me as well.
This is bad. I can set my router to use WEP, but can not set my office's one, I'm not authorised to do so. It's default is WPA-TKIP.
as4 conflicts with Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG
I don't know if any of you realize this, plug in Exec to your note book does not kill your wireless connection, but it affect the whole network, everyone connect to the same router as you will also have connectivity issue, not just you alone.
Don't Microsoft have any solution for this?
postef said:
I don't know if any of you realize this, plug in Exec to your note book does not kill your wireless connection, but it affect the whole network, everyone connect to the same router as you will also have connectivity issue, not just you alone.
Don't Microsoft have any solution for this?
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I know this now.
Plugged my exec into my laptop when at my brothers and it threw his PC off the network too. If anyone does find a solution to this it would be great.
No body can fix this??
My frind using Wizard and have the same issue.
See http://www.airscanner.com/blog/blog.php?blogid=0601040857
I tried this airfix, but it could not solve the issue.
Ditto same problem.
Hi guys ..
have just read through this post and it is exactly the same issue as a friend of mine.. i thought it was an isolated case however it would appear not .
If possible could all of you that have this issue please reply with the make / model of your WiFi Router and the Wifi card in your laptop .
other info like Router firmware may be good also if you know it ?!
maybe we will see a pattern ?
thanx all
There is a pattern -
- Intel wireless cards (2200 & 2915) & drivers
- Using WPA encryption (WEP and unencrypted not affected)
- it knocks off all wireless computers on the same network (not just the one with AS installed)
Router / PPC / laptop models seem to be unimportant.
Search google groups for a thread entitled " ActiveSync 4.1 kills wireless"
Wonder if this is ROM issue?
I have new (two weeks old) M5000 and only ever charge with usb.
I have d-link wireless router at home, and connected to it are two laptops and a desk top.
I can surf all night without have connection issues from all three PC devices, and from the M5000
All this with AS4 running to keep my sms messages synced up with Outlook (using Jeyo)
I have a new Wizard (O2 XDA Mini S) which refuses to connect to my Belkin Pre-N router.
Despite trying all I can think of, including Encrypt On/Off; WEP, WPA; b/g mixed access; changing Channel and SSID, reset to defaults etc, etc I still get no joy.
I even suspected a hardware fault with the Mini, so had it changed, but the new one is the same.
When I start WiFi, the Mini finds the Router, and requests the WPA key. Once supplied, it just goes back to "Available" in the list of connections; forcing a "connect" shows it trying to connect, but it just returs to "Availabe" again. The network properties shows no connection (no SSID or Channel) and no signal strength.
All my other WiFi clients connect fine- O2 XDA Exec, Toshiba Laptop and another PC client. Even my old Ipaq with jacket connects, so its not a b/g problem.
I've even tried using the 802.11g registry hack cited in another thread to no avail.
The Mini did connect to a BT Openzone Access point this morning, so the capability is there.
Connection settings for the connection are for "The Internet" and the overall network card settings (above the Network adapter list) to "Work", though I did try this with "The Internet" out of frustration.
Any ideas guys?
Neil
I have had the same problem. As soon as I put the hack in I cant connect.
Take the hack off and it connects. Belkin pren adsl router
dalewinterstein said:
I have had the same problem. As soon as I put the hack in I cant connect.
Take the hack off and it connects. Belkin pren adsl router
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Thanks for the advice, but I tried it without the hack first- no go, and have now done a hard reset (I've done so many hard resets I've lost count!)
Everything I try fails. Just about to try the firmware update for the Router.
Sorted- the router firmware update fixed it!
NeilM said:
Sorted- the router firmware update fixed it!
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So you are saying that the router was the one causing the issues, you think, and not the Wizard (MDA)? I have the same issue. Have the hack (g) installed. I was only able to connect once to the my Belkin pre-n...but for some reason cannot get an IP address...ever...
I think it was a combination of the 2 things:
The G HAck on its own did not work, and the firmware update on its own didn't work, but updating the firmware, and using the G hack allowed my Wizard (O2 Mini S ) to connect and it has been fine since.
In fact I've now applied the "Linksys Hack" to my Pre-N Router, so it now thinks its a Linksys and is much more stable generally. If you try it, make sure you reset the Belkin to factory settings before applying the hacked Linksys firmware. Read the relevant forum entries carefully!
yeah. I did the linksys hack as well. I must say that I'm happy about that. it went really well. didn't need to do the factory reset and I only had issues with my dhcp range. but I fixed that.
still no love with the wizard though. do I need to set up a separate connection setting on my wizard? do I have to turn off the phone and the enable wifi? I also have the hack were I have gprs always on....could that be conflicting?
TIA.
The Wizard does seem to have more connecton problems than the Exec (I've had both) as its WiFi hardware is less advanced (based on an older SDIO design rather than fully integrated)
You should not need to turn the phone radio or GPRS off when connecting WiFi, though it might help troubleshooting if you do for establishing the initial connection.
I assume you are using WPA encryption? WEP is a royal pain on WM devices as you have to enter the full 26 character hex encryption key in the WiFi settings control panel- WM2003 and WM5 won't accept WEP passphrases.
If you are using WPA, I'd suggest removing the connection settings for your router on the Wizard, then turning WiFi on again and allowing it to try & connect. If that fails, you need to recheck your network settings.
If you are still having problems, you might like to look at my answer to a simiar query on 4WinMobile Here which worked for that user.
Thanks NeilM. I do have the old school WEP. It IS a pain entering in the Hex string (grumble). I need to check to see if my networked-tivo's can handle WPA...
I will check your other post as well.
Read through your other post. I think it was a "dumb" thing that I did. I changed the "connect to" item on the wireless card from "The Internet" to "Work" and it picked up an IP immediately. Duh...that would make sense if both my GRPS connection and my wifi were going to "the internet"...and thus conflicting, right?
My knowledge of Networking protocols etc is sadly lacking, so I don't know the answer to why this is how things need to be! I suspect all the network cards need to be connected to "Work" because the device has no direct link to "The Internet", and once connected via "Work", the TCP/IP settings take over and route packet calls to "The Internet" via the IP address settings.
Most important thing is that you are now connected!
Hope you can find time to visit 4WinMobile more often now you've found it. It's not intended to be as technically upfront as XDA-Devs, but is a very good inter-personal site with a great spirit, and some pretty good insider knowledge
Belkin pre-n
My MDA Vario would not connect with the original Rom. I was hoping this ROM update (CUSTOM_RUU_Prodigy_2170702_217_20710_TMO_US.exe) found here forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44631&highlight=mda+vario would allow it to connect but it will still not. I used registry wizard to update the registry settings for Wifi G, but it still will not connect successfully. It seems some roms will work with the Belkin Pre-n. Does any one know which specific rom works with this particular router.
I'm getting desperate here- I can't get my MDA to connect to my Belkin Pre-N. Nothing works. I've got the latest firmware on the router, and I've enabled the "G" hack on the phone.
Anyone have any ideas? I've tried removing all encryption and security and still nothing. I can easily connect to my old Dell TruMobile router, but I don't want to use it because the range is so poor.
Is there anyway to ensure 100% that I've enabled the G hack?
Belkin Pre-n
I finally have my Belkin Pre-n (or linksys SRX clone now) working with my MDA Vario. It would not work with any Belkin firmware or variety of settings, but since its harware is the same as the Linksys SRX you are able to flash the unit to a Linksys clone. As a Linksys clone the Mda Vario connects flawlessly with no trouble. The first Belkin Pre-n I flashed to a linksys bricked the router, so be careful with this. To successfully reflash you must have a version 1 Belkin pre-n not v2 a hex edited version of linksys firmware found here http://www.streamload.com/Nodes/Node.asp?cxInstID=86340166&nodeID=672194467
IMPORTANT Have the Belkin pre-flash set to the default linksys IP 192.168.1.1, the default password 'admin', and the dhcp server turned off. These are the default settings for the linksys firmware and and if they are pre -set result in a easy flash. If these settings are not followed pre-flash you stand to brick your router, or have a difficult time ressurecting it. You must manually assign your computer an IP within the 192.168.1.1 -255 feild as you will have dhcp turned off. at the fierst login dont be alarmed it will not work. Restart your browser and type 'admin' in the username as well as in the password field. Now you can upgrade your router to the newest linksys firmware 1.02.10_USA found on the linksys website. Congratulations you now will enjoy flawless wifi on your linksys flashed Belkin pre-n.
Wizard with Belkin pre-N wifi router
I had the same problem. Turned off QoS and it connects without any problem. Try it.
Hi All,
I too have a strange WiFi issue. Here goes:
My phone is able to connect to free WiFi stations and the WiFi station at my parent's place. When I try to connect at home, it connects but I am unable to browse.
I previously used WEP encryption and have also tried removing all encryption...but no luck.
Here are my current router settings:
Band 2.4 GHz B+G
Mode AP
Channel 9
Authentication Open
Preamble type Long
Broadcast SSID Disable
Encryption None
Use 802.1x Authentication Disabled
Phone Details
HTC Touch
Browser Netfront/IE
My laptops, DS Lite, Wii can connect and work with the router...
Any help will be highly appreciated
Check that you don't have MAC ADDRESS FILTERING at the router. It may be hidden under Filter settings, like my D-Link is. This may sound trivial, but more than once I forgot about the MAC filtering.
If that doesn't help you, then just to narrow it down, at my home I use WEP and disable SSID broadcast also, and my Touch can connect fine, and fast.
Scratch the last post! I had the same problem with my TOUCH..Just put the power level to the max (i.e. go Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Wireless LAN -> Power Mode -> and slide all the way LEFT to Best Performance) and all hail ..your problem solved
I also use a Touch. I put the slider all the way to the right (Best Battery) and I connect fine. You people must have a big house, or a crap router?
HTC Touch wireless lan connection problems
hi,
Im having the same problem. No MAC filtering & no encryption on ADSL router.
HTC touch can connect to the router at 192.168.1.1. But it does not connect to any other web page.
Message shown is: "Page cannot be found. Check the name and try again."
Any other tips.
Thanks in advance.
dbmayur said:
Hi All,
I too have a strange WiFi issue. Here goes:
My phone is able to connect to free WiFi stations and the WiFi station at my parent's place. When I try to connect at home, it connects but I am unable to browse.
I previously used WEP encryption and have also tried removing all encryption...but no luck.
Here are my current router settings:
Band 2.4 GHz B+G
Mode AP
Channel 9
Authentication Open
Preamble type Long
Broadcast SSID Disable
Encryption None
Use 802.1x Authentication Disabled
Phone Details
HTC Touch
Browser Netfront/IE
My laptops, DS Lite, Wii can connect and work with the router...
Any help will be highly appreciated
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hencre said:
hi,
Im having the same problem. No MAC filtering & no encryption on ADSL router.
HTC touch can connect to the router at 192.168.1.1. But it does not connect to any other web page.
Message shown is: "Page cannot be found. Check the name and try again."
Any other tips.
Thanks in advance.
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Same problem I am having now. I can connect now wifi, but get same error.
??????
Wifi Problem!
Hi guys,
I've got a problem and I'm hoping you can help me out..
I've got a HTC TOUCH and when I got it the Wifi connection was working just fine.. I could connect to any WIFI network and Browse the internet.
After a month or two, my phone wouldn't connect to my home wifi network anymore. And neither would it connect to any other wifi networks (I tried!)..
I've been all over the internet trying to figure out what could have happened and if someone else was having these problems to.
I just can't find the answer and I feel like I already tried everything I could think of..
Hope some of you knows what to do..
I'd suggest looking at the Touch forum... I've got no experience of Touch devices, but it may be a Radio ROM issue...
kinda same issue I am facing ! donno
MY HTC TOUCH never connects to NETGEAR WIRELESS ACCESS POINT
but finds LINKSYS routers in a jiffy :O
are Wireless Access Point and.. Wireless routers different
they both emit diff. signals ?
I have the same issue with a TYTN II, can connect to the wireless, but can't open any web pages.
problem with htc & WPA-PSK passkey 25 characters
My htc tilt connects almost everywhere, but i have a problem with wpa-psk at work. The password is from 25 characters, I read some articles what WM cannot handle such length. Maybe it's possible to edit somehow the registry?
I have the same problem guys, what can we do to find a solution i tried everthing i could, and i even tested it out with my 2 wireless routers, and at public places it connects (at home it doesnt connect though).
shirreer said:
Scratch the last post! I had the same problem with my TOUCH..Just put the power level to the max (i.e. go Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Wireless LAN -> Power Mode -> and slide all the way LEFT to Best Performance) and all hail ..your problem solved
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Thanks a lot!
I had exactly the topic problem with manilla rom on my kaiser, could not use wifi any more. But with just sliding the meter to 'Best Performance' as suggested, wifi it once again works like a charm.
HTC Touch wifi solve
I had the same problem with my htc in WEP it dosen't browse, I changed the router to a better wifi protection like WPA-PSK, connected and worked fine, for some reason it only work's fine for a couple of minutes, I readed this post to put the sidebar in best performance and now everything works fine. An advice don't use WEP it's not secure at all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_security maybe you fine this interesting and helpful.
I'm running into a problem were I can connect to an AP at work and surf the net fine but when I disassociate I cant connect to it again for a whole day. The AP must be saving some info and therefore will wait for the DHCP lease time to finish before allowing the touch to re-connect. I tried my laptop and was able to connect 3-4 times and never have a problem so it is isolated to the touch and windows mobile 6.1. To find some more info out I was able to clone the mac of the touch and use it as the laptops wifi cards mac. It connected fine on 3 consecutive tries.
Maybe windows mobile is missing some commands when disassociating from an AP and as a result leaving info out in nowhere land confusing the router.
Thanks for any help!
ok, here's me joining the club... dunno what happened... working one day, getting crap the next.
exact same problem as everyone else...connects to the wireless network, then when you try to surf, page cannot be found...
Exact same problem here.
In the beginning everything fine. Connecting to my home WiFi and using the internet without problems (weather, stocks, opera, email, google maps, even skype voip).
Then, last month, all programs are unable to find anything on the internet, although the device reports it is connected to my (unchanged) home WiFi.
All these programs work fine when the device is connected to the internet through activesync (usb cable).
Also this whole time I have been using my home WiFi with a laptop from both Vista and Ubuntu, with no problems, so I guess it's not the router.
Also have read in other fora about these wifi working - wifi not working "cycles" other people have had, with various WM devices. And various tricks like shutting wifi off and immediately on again.
I even hard reseted the device. Problem still there.
WTF?
Connected once only
Connected once only for a few minutes to my home router dir 310 D-Link, worked fine and fast. After that I closed the connection. Next day I tried to connect but my HTC Touch 3G doesn't see the router. I see any other routers, but I do not see mine. I connected to some friends routers with WEP and WPA encription just to be sure the phone working. During this I didn't changed the router or the phone settings. It is very strange. The problem maybe comes from the router.
I'm having the same issues with my HD2. Looking all over the place and seems to be a common fault, but thus far with no cure, I tried the power save mode
From new it worked like a dream, but then one day it would connect to AP's but act as if not connected. I flashed my ROM with the VERY impressive Merlion Leo v 2.66 and it all started working again. Then yesterday, it stopped again. I don't want to reflash, so I'm working hard to find a cure, and will report as soon as I find one.
---EDIT---
I've found a cure (for mine at least), not sure if it will work for everyone, and haven't managed to test it at any other AP's except for my home Router, but all I did was set the network card properties (Broadcom 802.11 DHD Network Adapter) to 'Use server-assigned IP address' instead of 'Use specific IP address'. I'm not sure why this worked as there was no IP address conflicts because there were no other devices connected to my router when I had problems, but it works for me, hopefully permanently
Good luck.
Try this. Its work perfect for me!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10035476&postcount=10
Hi, I replaced my zyxel wireless modem router with a new Belkin N1 wireless modem router.
I configured the belkin with same wep details as old router. My wireless music steaming devide, my laptop and my Wii all connected right away - no problems - so I know the wep key etc is entered ok. BUT my phone will no longer connect.
My phone does connect ot the wireless network in my work place.
I rebooted the phone, no joy! Reset it, no joy!
I switched off the belkin and put the zyxel back on, and it connects at home.
I tried switching the belkin to broadcast G, no joy!
When I try to get it to connect to the network it shows all gren bars - so the signal is strong.
I dont use mac filtering.
Out of ideas - anybody know a solution?
Qtek 9100, win mobile 5, aku2
No answer from Wizard forum - trying here?
Hi, I replaced my zyxel wireless modem router with a new Belkin N1 wireless modem router.
I configured the belkin with same wep details as old router. My wireless music steaming devide, my laptop and my Wii all connected right away - no problems - so I know the wep key etc is entered ok. BUT my phone will no longer connect.
My phone does connect ot the wireless network in my work place.
I rebooted the phone, no joy! Reset it, no joy!
I switched off the belkin and put the zyxel back on, and it connects at home.
I tried switching the belkin to broadcast G, no joy!
When I try to get it to connect to the network it shows all gren bars - so the signal is strong.
I dont use mac filtering.
Out of ideas - anybody know a solution?
Qtek 9100, win mobile 5, aku2
emaj2 said:
No answer from Wizard forum - trying here?
Hi, I replaced my zyxel wireless modem router with a new Belkin N1 wireless modem router.
I configured the belkin with same wep details as old router. My wireless music steaming devide, my laptop and my Wii all connected right away - no problems - so I know the wep key etc is entered ok. BUT my phone will no longer connect.
My phone does connect ot the wireless network in my work place.
I rebooted the phone, no joy! Reset it, no joy!
I switched off the belkin and put the zyxel back on, and it connects at home.
I tried switching the belkin to broadcast G, no joy!
When I try to get it to connect to the network it shows all gren bars - so the signal is strong.
I dont use mac filtering.
Out of ideas - anybody know a solution?
Qtek 9100, win mobile 5, aku2
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Can you find IP Qtek in Belkin.
But have you tweaked QTEK to G?
Hi,
No, can't see qtek IP in belkin.
Tweaked to G? - I did'nt do anything like this. do I need to? How?
I was assuming the qtek was picking up the old router via G.
Answer is in this link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2941902#post2941902