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Wizard and Belkin Pre-N: Incompatible?

I have a new Wizard (O2 XDA Mini S) which refuses to connect to my Belkin Pre-N router.
Despite trying all I can think of, including Encrypt On/Off; WEP, WPA; b/g mixed access; changing Channel and SSID, reset to defaults etc, etc I still get no joy.
I even suspected a hardware fault with the Mini, so had it changed, but the new one is the same.
When I start WiFi, the Mini finds the Router, and requests the WPA key. Once supplied, it just goes back to "Available" in the list of connections; forcing a "connect" shows it trying to connect, but it just returs to "Availabe" again. The network properties shows no connection (no SSID or Channel) and no signal strength.
All my other WiFi clients connect fine- O2 XDA Exec, Toshiba Laptop and another PC client. Even my old Ipaq with jacket connects, so its not a b/g problem.
I've even tried using the 802.11g registry hack cited in another thread to no avail.
The Mini did connect to a BT Openzone Access point this morning, so the capability is there.
Connection settings for the connection are for "The Internet" and the overall network card settings (above the Network adapter list) to "Work", though I did try this with "The Internet" out of frustration.
Any ideas guys?
Neil

I have had the same problem. As soon as I put the hack in I cant connect.
Take the hack off and it connects. Belkin pren adsl router

dalewinterstein said:
I have had the same problem. As soon as I put the hack in I cant connect.
Take the hack off and it connects. Belkin pren adsl router
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Thanks for the advice, but I tried it without the hack first- no go, and have now done a hard reset (I've done so many hard resets I've lost count!)
Everything I try fails. Just about to try the firmware update for the Router.

Sorted- the router firmware update fixed it!

NeilM said:
Sorted- the router firmware update fixed it!
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So you are saying that the router was the one causing the issues, you think, and not the Wizard (MDA)? I have the same issue. Have the hack (g) installed. I was only able to connect once to the my Belkin pre-n...but for some reason cannot get an IP address...ever...

I think it was a combination of the 2 things:
The G HAck on its own did not work, and the firmware update on its own didn't work, but updating the firmware, and using the G hack allowed my Wizard (O2 Mini S ) to connect and it has been fine since.
In fact I've now applied the "Linksys Hack" to my Pre-N Router, so it now thinks its a Linksys and is much more stable generally. If you try it, make sure you reset the Belkin to factory settings before applying the hacked Linksys firmware. Read the relevant forum entries carefully!

yeah. I did the linksys hack as well. I must say that I'm happy about that. it went really well. didn't need to do the factory reset and I only had issues with my dhcp range. but I fixed that.
still no love with the wizard though. do I need to set up a separate connection setting on my wizard? do I have to turn off the phone and the enable wifi? I also have the hack were I have gprs always on....could that be conflicting?
TIA.

The Wizard does seem to have more connecton problems than the Exec (I've had both) as its WiFi hardware is less advanced (based on an older SDIO design rather than fully integrated)
You should not need to turn the phone radio or GPRS off when connecting WiFi, though it might help troubleshooting if you do for establishing the initial connection.
I assume you are using WPA encryption? WEP is a royal pain on WM devices as you have to enter the full 26 character hex encryption key in the WiFi settings control panel- WM2003 and WM5 won't accept WEP passphrases.
If you are using WPA, I'd suggest removing the connection settings for your router on the Wizard, then turning WiFi on again and allowing it to try & connect. If that fails, you need to recheck your network settings.
If you are still having problems, you might like to look at my answer to a simiar query on 4WinMobile Here which worked for that user.

Thanks NeilM. I do have the old school WEP. It IS a pain entering in the Hex string (grumble). I need to check to see if my networked-tivo's can handle WPA...
I will check your other post as well.

Read through your other post. I think it was a "dumb" thing that I did. I changed the "connect to" item on the wireless card from "The Internet" to "Work" and it picked up an IP immediately. Duh...that would make sense if both my GRPS connection and my wifi were going to "the internet"...and thus conflicting, right?

My knowledge of Networking protocols etc is sadly lacking, so I don't know the answer to why this is how things need to be! I suspect all the network cards need to be connected to "Work" because the device has no direct link to "The Internet", and once connected via "Work", the TCP/IP settings take over and route packet calls to "The Internet" via the IP address settings.
Most important thing is that you are now connected!
Hope you can find time to visit 4WinMobile more often now you've found it. It's not intended to be as technically upfront as XDA-Devs, but is a very good inter-personal site with a great spirit, and some pretty good insider knowledge

Belkin pre-n
My MDA Vario would not connect with the original Rom. I was hoping this ROM update (CUSTOM_RUU_Prodigy_2170702_217_20710_TMO_US.exe) found here forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44631&highlight=mda+vario would allow it to connect but it will still not. I used registry wizard to update the registry settings for Wifi G, but it still will not connect successfully. It seems some roms will work with the Belkin Pre-n. Does any one know which specific rom works with this particular router.

I'm getting desperate here- I can't get my MDA to connect to my Belkin Pre-N. Nothing works. I've got the latest firmware on the router, and I've enabled the "G" hack on the phone.
Anyone have any ideas? I've tried removing all encryption and security and still nothing. I can easily connect to my old Dell TruMobile router, but I don't want to use it because the range is so poor.
Is there anyway to ensure 100% that I've enabled the G hack?

Belkin Pre-n
I finally have my Belkin Pre-n (or linksys SRX clone now) working with my MDA Vario. It would not work with any Belkin firmware or variety of settings, but since its harware is the same as the Linksys SRX you are able to flash the unit to a Linksys clone. As a Linksys clone the Mda Vario connects flawlessly with no trouble. The first Belkin Pre-n I flashed to a linksys bricked the router, so be careful with this. To successfully reflash you must have a version 1 Belkin pre-n not v2 a hex edited version of linksys firmware found here http://www.streamload.com/Nodes/Node.asp?cxInstID=86340166&nodeID=672194467
IMPORTANT Have the Belkin pre-flash set to the default linksys IP 192.168.1.1, the default password 'admin', and the dhcp server turned off. These are the default settings for the linksys firmware and and if they are pre -set result in a easy flash. If these settings are not followed pre-flash you stand to brick your router, or have a difficult time ressurecting it. You must manually assign your computer an IP within the 192.168.1.1 -255 feild as you will have dhcp turned off. at the fierst login dont be alarmed it will not work. Restart your browser and type 'admin' in the username as well as in the password field. Now you can upgrade your router to the newest linksys firmware 1.02.10_USA found on the linksys website. Congratulations you now will enjoy flawless wifi on your linksys flashed Belkin pre-n.

Wizard with Belkin pre-N wifi router
I had the same problem. Turned off QoS and it connects without any problem. Try it.

WPA-PSK with TKIP and Belkin Pre-N Router

I have been trying to connect to my Tmobile MDA to a Pre-N router. The router is set up to do WPA-PSK with TKIP. I can get the Wizard to connect to it and I see a very strong signal strength.
However, when I try to browse using IE, I keep getting an error that I cannot get to the web page. As soon as I disable WPA and connect, I can browse. I do have the registry hacks to go to G mode. Can somebody please help me debug this problem?
Thanks,
MT

I had the same problem, and was only able to fix it by updating the Belkin Firmware to V1.1.03.
Alternatively you can reflash the Belkin Firmware with Linksys Firmware (they both use the same hardware) which makes it much more stable (and allows the Prodigy to connect. (Google Belkin Linksys Firmware to find out more about this)

It gets worse, I just upgraded my Wizard to the new AKU2 ROM and now I can't connect to my Belkin Pre-N with either WEP or WPA...
Downgraded to the old ROM and WEP is working again!
Matt

Wizard not working with Belkin pre-n router
I use WEP encryption. Could not get my Wizard to connect to the Belkin pre-n router. It was working with Netgear G router. Turned out if I turn off QoS on the Belkin pre-n router, everything works. Hope this works for y'all.

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WiFi Problems on SPV M600

Hi, I hope someone can help me. I have a Belkin Wireless G router and an Orange SPV M600. I have tried to connect my SPV to the router with mixed results. If I disable my WPA-PSK I can connect with no problems in both B and G, as soon as I re-secure the router my SPV won't connect. I have ensured that the PSK is correct and tried the speeds at only B and only G. In the menu it says that my network is available then after 2 attempts to connect it then says that the network is unavailable. As you can appreciate I don't want to run my router unsecured.
All advise gratefully received
Rolfecat

Hi,
Do you have the same problem with an other device like a laptop ? You may have a problem with you router ?

try using wep or mac filtering or both, both are very reliable. i have had mixed results with WPA on mobile devices (and printers).

I have ran into this problem as well. I have a Netgear WNR834B router ("N" router). I have to set it to b/g in order for my 8525 to connect. Otherwise, it just sits there for awhile saying it's connecting and then gives the same unavailability error.
Hmm.did you find a solution?

Hi,
I haven't resolved the problem with my router. The router works fine with laptops and only my phone won't connect. The interesting thing is, when I go to other peoples houses where they run wi-fi I don't have a problem connecting even with WPA. Thanks for the replies, hopefully someone will turn up with a solution.

in wizard
Others have had the same problem and solved here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=255724
I have been unable to fix with my wanadoo router though.

Can't connect to wifi at home?

Hey Guys....I'm new to this forum, and it's already been a great help to keep my wizard going!
I have a new problem, that I'm not sure how to approach...I'm using IPL/SPL 3.08 + 2.71 Radio on the T-Mobile version of 5. (I'm at&T tho...)
Whenever I try to wi-fi into my home network, it finds my network, and tries to connect, but never gets an IP address assigned to it. I know it's not a hardware issue, because I've connected to other networks in the past.
I'm pretty sure there's a configuration problem some where (I'm using WPA security, but I couldn't connect even when the wireless was wide open) but I don't know if the configuration problem is on my router or on my phone. Any ideas??
Thanks for the awesome forum!!

Can you get hold of a laptop or another wireless device and see if this connects to your kit at home?
If it does then you know you have a problem with the phone, if not then it's the wireless router.

Yeah, I have a couple other wireless devices that connect wirelessly to the network already + I connected my phone to my parent's wireless a few hours ago...so it's gotta be the router, but I don't know what I have to change. Any ideas?

I myself have the same problem, I can connect, and MAYBE look at one or two pages, my phone then loses the IP and never re-leases it from the router....I aswell have other wireless devices that connect fine(such as this laptop that im typing this on lol)
Phone specs:
Cingular 8125
TNT 6.1 Pro/with TouchFREE
IPL/SPL 2.26.olip
SIM Unlocked

I have the same problem. phone connects and gets an IP but as soon as i try to go on the Internet, it stops working and then eventually tries to dial a connection.

I wonder if a static IP address would work for these issues?
Could you update the phone's Wifi profile for your router to a static address instead of a DHCP address then configure the router not to lease the phone's IP address to any other device.

any idea where to set static IP/DHCP on the wizard running 5.1?

Qtek 9100 - won't connect to new wireless router

Hi, I replaced my zyxel wireless modem router with a new Belkin N1 wireless modem router.
I configured the belkin with same wep details as old router. My wireless music steaming devide, my laptop and my Wii all connected right away - no problems - so I know the wep key etc is entered ok. BUT my phone will no longer connect.
My phone does connect ot the wireless network in my work place.
I rebooted the phone, no joy! Reset it, no joy!
I switched off the belkin and put the zyxel back on, and it connects at home.
I tried switching the belkin to broadcast G, no joy!
When I try to get it to connect to the network it shows all gren bars - so the signal is strong.
I dont use mac filtering.
Out of ideas - anybody know a solution?
Qtek 9100, win mobile 5, aku2