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Problems Using Wi-Fi and Bluetooth

Hi, I just bought a MDA Vario and downloaded the software to sim-unlock it. I've been using it on Vodafone for a few days and have some problems:
Wi-Fi:
I can turn wireless on, but when I then go to IE to start surfing, it tries to connect using GPRS instead of Wi-Fi. How do I get it to use Wi-Fi instead?
Bluetooth:
I can Sync my device to my PC using Active Sync 4.1 over USB, but when trying to do this over bluetooth, I keep getting told that the device can't find a an existing Bluetooth partnership, even though I've set one up (several times)! What could I be doing wrong?
ROMS:
I've got the T-Mobile ROM on my phone, but I'd rather have a standard (non-network specific) ROM. Where can I download such a ROM? Would ther ebe any issues in overwriting the T-Mobile ROM with a Standard one? Which ROM is the "best"?
Regards,
Nirbho

Nirbho said:
Hi, I just bought a MDA Vario and downloaded the software to sim-unlock it. I've been using it on Vodafone for a few days and have some problems:
Wi-Fi:
I can turn wireless on, but when I then go to IE to start surfing, it tries to connect using GPRS instead of Wi-Fi. How do I get it to use Wi-Fi instead?
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If WiFi is on and connected successfully to the network, it should use WiFi. I sometimes find if I wander about, and the phone loses site of my Access Point without me noticing, the next time I request a webpage it will fire up GPRS. You say you're connected, but it sounds like the Vario doesn't think so. Are you sure you've got WEP/WPA keys correct, and that the Wireless AP isn't using MAC filtering? Have you been able to get onto the net with IE at all, or has it always tried to get out over GPRS instead?
Nirbho said:
Bluetooth:
I can Sync my device to my PC using Active Sync 4.1 over USB, but when trying to do this over bluetooth, I keep getting told that the device can't find a an existing Bluetooth partnership, even though I've set one up (several times)! What could I be doing wrong?
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When you pair the Vario with the PC, both ends will offer a list of Bluetooth profiles they support. When I tried with my laptop and a 3com BT dongle, despite it working fine with my old iPAQ, the Wizard didn't seem to think that the laptop offered the ActiveSync service (or maybe the laptop didn't think the phone did, I can't remember for sure). You need to make sure that the Vario (if that's the "device" that's complaining) believes the PC is offering ActiveSync as a Bluetooth service, or it will assume it's only paired with other phones, GPS's, headsets etc, but nothing with which it could activesync.
Nirbho said:
ROMS:
I've got the T-Mobile ROM on my phone, but I'd rather have a standard (non-network specific) ROM. Where can I download such a ROM? Would ther ebe any issues in overwriting the T-Mobile ROM with a Standard one? Which ROM is the "best"?
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The ftp site here hosts a load of ROM's. I don't know of any that are noticeably better all around than any others. I have a Qtek phone, and although the later ROM fixes the BT voice-dial wake-up problem it also breaks, MMS and some bits of WiFi for some people. Others have installed the WWE version of a ROM and found that the keyboard doesn't match their hardware layout and some keys are wrong. They've then gone and broken button mappings trying to fix the keyboard problem. I know T-Mobile are the least subtle in their customisation, and many people seem to want to get rid of the pink look. I don't believe there is a clear winner in the ROM stakes. I've seen a few sigs that suggest people are starting to cook their own ROM with the GSM stack from one, the WiFi from another or whatever combination suits them. If you're up for doing the same, be my guest, but you may, unless you're experienced, find yourself worse off than you are now.
Have a look over in the "upgrading" forum and see what people seem to be using there. Be aware though, a lot of the "old timers" will be using I-Mate or Qtek devices which hit the streets before the O2 and T-Mobile variants, so they have had less device specific customisation done and were probabaly running a generic WWE (or localised) version anyway.
Hope that helps?
Dox.

Blackberry Software for HTC device from T-Mobile Germany

Today, we got a mail, that T-Mobile germany released backberry software for HTC-Devices:
http://updateservice.t-mobile.net/blackberry/login.do?servcoid=TMD
MDA 2
MDA 3
MDA Compact
MDA Vario
MDA Pro
I haven't installed it. But this sounds good.

what kind of software? has anyone installed this yet?

ghost - can you share the software with us to try ?
I cannot log in since i do not have an account there.
Is it something the same as it was released for MDA Vario recently ?

baudy2 said:
ghost - can you share the software with us to try ?
I cannot log in since i do not have an account there.
Is it something the same as it was released for MDA Vario recently ?
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Click on free download, this would help :`)

Button [FREE SOFTWARE] > Endgeräte > Blackberry Connect

Strange, it behaves the same as the previous BB Connect released by T-Mobile for MDA Vario.
Simply does not work....

Hi,
i installed the Blackkberry software on PPC and on Desktop and its working fine.
I can setup filters on Desktop Software and alle mails will be pushed to my Universal.
The only bad thing is the battery time - I guess that I will need power every day and rechachge the battery
How long does your universal stay without recharge of the battery?
Erik

i have installed the desktop program but when i try to run it, it detects an error claiming that a connection with the mail server could not be established.
Do I need MS server installed? I only have a normal home PC with windows xp home ed.
Thanks

Hi,
I use Blackberry Push with an exchange server and own Blackberry Sever in our company.
This is how I setup my connection:
- I have an Outlook connection to my exchange server working.
- Active Sync is working.
- Install BB Software on PDA
- Install BB Software on Desktop
- Started BB Software form Settings -> Instant Mail and choose what kind of service do you want: Blackberry Solution (You have an own Blackberry Server) or Instant Email with Blackberry (to use the blackberry server of your provider). I choosed "Blackberry Solution"
- Restart Blackberry Software
- Start Your Blackberry Desktop Software, choose your Outlook Profile and Create Your Own Security Key. Your BBPin will be displayed from your PDA. If not connection doesn't work.
- Create Your filter and save all to your PDA
- If you have GPRS enabled and all works fine, you Blackberry software will connect and get your first results.
That's the way, it's working on my universal.
To save your battery live, turn of UMTS and use GPRS. You can turn it off in settings -> Telephone.
You don't need it for Blackberry service.
Erik

ghost said:
Hi,
I use Blackberry Push with an exchange server and own Blackberry Sever in our company.
This is how I setup my connection:
- I have an Outlook connection to my exchange server working.
- Active Sync is working.
- Install BB Software on PDA
- Install BB Software on Desktop
- Started BB Software form Settings -> Instant Mail and choose what kind of service do you want: Blackberry Solution (You have an own Blackberry Server) or Instant Email with Blackberry (to use the blackberry server of your provider). I choosed "Blackberry Solution"
- Restart Blackberry Software
- Start Your Blackberry Desktop Software, choose your Outlook Profile and Create Your Own Security Key. Your BBPin will be displayed from your PDA. If not connection doesn't work.
- Create Your filter and save all to your PDA
- If you have GPRS enabled and all works fine, you Blackberry software will connect and get your first results.
That's the way, it's working on my universal.
To save your battery live, turn of UMTS and use GPRS. You can turn it off in settings -> Telephone.
You don't need it for Blackberry service.
Erik
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How does this save battery power? surely the BB uses the same amount of power to stay connected to 3G as it does to GPRS??? and of course it downloads quicker using 3G

ghost said:
Hi,
I use Blackberry Push with an exchange server and own Blackberry Sever in our company.
This is how I setup my connection:
- I have an Outlook connection to my exchange server working.
- Active Sync is working.
- Install BB Software on PDA
- Install BB Software on Desktop
- Started BB Software form Settings -> Instant Mail and choose what kind of service do you want: Blackberry Solution (You have an own Blackberry Server) or Instant Email with Blackberry (to use the blackberry server of your provider). I choosed "Blackberry Solution"
- Restart Blackberry Software
- Start Your Blackberry Desktop Software, choose your Outlook Profile and Create Your Own Security Key. Your BBPin will be displayed from your PDA. If not connection doesn't work.
- Create Your filter and save all to your PDA
- If you have GPRS enabled and all works fine, you Blackberry software will connect and get your first results.
That's the way, it's working on my universal.
To save your battery live, turn of UMTS and use GPRS. You can turn it off in settings -> Telephone.
You don't need it for Blackberry service.
Erik
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How does this save battery power? surely the BB uses the same amount of power to stay connected to 3G as it does to GPRS??? and of course it downloads quicker using 3G

tonyb15re said:
How does this save battery power? surely the BB uses the same amount of power to stay connected to 3G as it does to GPRS??? and of course it downloads quicker using 3G
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Hi,
I don't know how it saves your battery - it's my experience that I can stay more than one day without 3G and BB. With switched on 3G, I need every day power.
I guess that the 3G part of your telephone is switched off and that saves power, like if you turn off WLAN or Bluetooth.
Erik

Hey Ghost,
It seems that this site is not open for all public.
Can you help me on this?
Is this just an add-on software moduel or a complete ROM-image?
I would like to test this on the BES of my company.
Thanks in advance.
Roelof

nice post man
just try it on my CHT device!coo

ghost said:
tonyb15re said:
How does this save battery power? surely the BB uses the same amount of power to stay connected to 3G as it does to GPRS??? and of course it downloads quicker using 3G
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Hi,
I don't know how it saves your battery - it's my experience that I can stay more than one day without 3G and BB. With switched on 3G, I need every day power.
I guess that the 3G part of your telephone is switched off and that saves power, like if you turn off WLAN or Bluetooth.
Erik
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Heres an answer to my own question, the power saving is probably down to the reduced amount of searches carried out to locate a UMTS connection, my phone constantly hops between GPRS and UMTS depending on coverage, each time it has to re-register hence using more power and sending more data to the network. I havent tried the GPRS Only option yet, I may give it a go next week when I'm on the road..

Do you need a specific ROM to use this software?
Cheers
Rowan

CAn I bump this topic?
I'd like to try to use this software with an O2 rom, but I suspect I won't be able to.
Can any of the guys using it confirm if it is Rom specific?
Cheers

Bump from me too.. would be very interested in the answer, since I hate the T-Mobile ROM I am forced to use now due to BB Connect.....
Has anyone actually had the BB connect work with the Q-tek ROM AKU1 ??
Thanks
Becky

ghost said:
Today, we got a mail, that T-Mobile germany released backberry software for HTC-Devices:
http://updateservice.t-mobile.net/blackberry/login.do?servcoid=TMD
MDA 2
MDA 3
MDA Compact
MDA Vario
MDA Pro
I haven't installed it. But this sounds good.
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Do you know when blackberry software will be avaible for mda compact 2 ?

The BB Connect software seems to be tied into the Service provider, there are 2 profiles, in the TMob one, email and BB Enterprise, I use the latter, the email one is hard coded for TMob bb servers.
O2 said they were going to ship a BB Client but wouldnt commit to a date.
The TMobile ROM is Old (Pre AKU2) BUT, it works, it pairs with my Parrot 3400LSGPS, it runs TomTom5.2 fine, the only downside is the gay pink video button. I do however have to reboot it a couple of times a day, and the BB Connect sometimes loses all will to live and forces me to reboot.

Blackberry Connect on Tytn?

Hello Guys,
I'm stucked....I'm trying to install the BB client on my PDA. I'm a T-Mobile user and i'm using the sw's are supported by them..... they are trying to tell me that my hw is broken......Tell me if it can be true that a hardware which is capable for BB connection is working only under the OS which is published by the Operator????
for me it seems it will be the case but as I have a HTC PDA I do not want to Downgrade my OS to the T-Mob. one which I do not like......
I've found already one thread at the Wizzard site which is very similar to my case....
Thx'n advance,
Tg

What error messages are you getting?

The situation is the following:
After I'm inst. the BB client on the PDA I can see at the Service TAB:
service: Blocked- activesync connected.
Even if I'm trying to use the BB_DeskConn. sw. there is no result on the sync progress... no error msg. exactly what I can share you. The desktop sw is getting my BB_PIN so there is an up and running service.
If I'm trying to connect over the GPRS connection there is no IP signed by the provider PDA is loosing the IP immediatelly (AFAIK the first sync must be done via the PC).
My Operator does not have any idea about it they say I mightg have to use their provided OS.....my operator is T-Mobile. It is nonsense taht is why I've bought an unsigned tool.

Tguszti said:
The situation is the following:
After I'm inst. the BB client on the PDA I can see at the Service TAB:
service: Blocked- activesync connected.
Even if I'm trying to use the BB_DeskConn. sw. there is no result on the sync progress... no error msg. exactly what I can share you. The desktop sw is getting my BB_PIN so there is an up and running service.
If I'm trying to connect over the GPRS connection there is no IP signed by the provider PDA is loosing the IP immediatelly (AFAIK the first sync must be done via the PC).
My Operator does not have any idea about it they say I mightg have to use their provided OS.....my operator is T-Mobile. It is nonsense taht is why I've bought an unsigned tool.
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What does the BB client status show when you are not connected to activesync?

try to connect via GRPS for 10 sec than says not connected. IP for certain sec's and than nothin'

Offical answer by the Operator in Hungary is the following:
HTC TyTN is not working with the BB service only if it runs with T-Mobile provided OS.
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Tguszti said:
Offical answer by the Operator in Hungary is the following:
HTC TyTN is not working with the BB service only if it runs with T-Mobile provided OS.
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There are specific ROM/OS version, Radio version & BB connect version that will work, and generally unless the operator you are with supports BB connect, they wouldn't even point you towards another operator/provider's ROM/OS, so I think they are already doing you a favour...

yeah I can imagen that is what I'm looking for! Is that an idea if i'm gonna install a NON HTC version than or the cab inst. of the Operator is enough?

I've tested with a T-MOb ROM no result same error nothing happens the device cannot connect to the BB service. Anybody any idea?

So I have you guys a workaround:
If you have a not locked PDA than DO NOT use the Operator Provided BB connector i won't work.
For me the case is closed answer is:
BlackBerry connect 2.1.2.16 which is avaliable on the FTP

I don't understand what do you mean.
I have XDA Trion, never locked, with the newest HTC firmware, Blackberry connect from this FTP, but it still doesn't connect. Says Radio is Off.

which version of BB? b/c in my case BB 2...20 was not okay but the 2....16 was. Maybe your and my cases are different...

BBC 4.0

Anyone got it working or tried Blackberry Connect client 4.0 on the Athena?
Mine (4.0.0.67) seems to try to create the blackberry network connection but won't connect. I can run it fine on the TyTn, but not on my X7500.
any ideas? I tried creating manually a netowrk connection for the APN, named it BlackBerry etc, to no avail. You see the device type is recognized as HTC-Athena. When I check the status, it stays at not connected. When I suspend, then resume, it briefly shows, Network available, then flashes Data Tunnel available, and quickly switches back to not connected. As if it looses connectivity. And yes, I'm all provisitioned fine, the same darn SIM in the TyTn with the same BBC client executable on it works. Go figure.

lbarouf said:
Anyone got it working or tried Blackberry Connect client 4.0 on the Athena?
Mine (4.0.0.67) seems to try to create the blackberry network connection but won't connect. I can run it fine on the TyTn, but not on my X7500.
any ideas? I tried creating manually a netowrk connection for the APN, named it BlackBerry etc, to no avail. You see the device type is recognized as HTC-Athena. When I check the status, it stays at not connected. When I suspend, then resume, it briefly shows, Network available, then flashes Data Tunnel available, and quickly switches back to not connected. As if it looses connectivity. And yes, I'm all provisitioned fine, the same darn SIM in the TyTn with the same BBC client executable on it works. Go figure.
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I had running perfectly BBC 2.1.2.54, I never hear a version 4, where is it?

lbarouf said:
Anyone got it working or tried Blackberry Connect client 4.0 ...
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I tried, but unfortunately it's the same problem like with other devices. If you don't have a matching OS-Version number you will not be able to get it up running. As far as I can see there is currently no way to change the os version number in the athenas rom. I found the right values but the .nbh file is signed, thus it will not flash.
I think we will have to wait for another BBC version or another ROM version (or someone finds a way to flash any rom).

lbarouf said:
Anyone got it working or tried Blackberry Connect client 4.0 on the Athena?
Mine (4.0.0.67) seems to try to create the blackberry network connection but won't connect. I can run it fine on the TyTn, but not on my X7500.
any ideas? I tried creating manually a netowrk connection for the APN, named it BlackBerry etc, to no avail. You see the device type is recognized as HTC-Athena. When I check the status, it stays at not connected. When I suspend, then resume, it briefly shows, Network available, then flashes Data Tunnel available, and quickly switches back to not connected. As if it looses connectivity. And yes, I'm all provisitioned fine, the same darn SIM in the TyTn with the same BBC client executable on it works. Go figure.
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I should be getting my hands on BBC 5.0, will try it. It's build for the HTC Excalibur and Hermes, but I suspect it will run also on the Athena. They are renaming the BBC to something else ?!? Anyway, the BBC 4.0 client was working fine on WM5 OEM on Hermes and on the WM6 rom for asia, can't recall which provider. Won't on the Black 3.01. Sounds right about the version number though... anyway. BBC 2.1 will do fine for now I guess.
Anyone tried BBC and Live on the same device (BBC on a BES, with calendar sync) ?

lbarouf said:
I should be getting my hands on BBC 5.0, will try it. It's build for the HTC Excalibur and Hermes, but I suspect it will run also on the Athena. They are renaming the BBC to something else ?!? Anyway, the BBC 4.0 client was working fine on WM5 OEM on Hermes and on the WM6 rom for asia, can't recall which provider. Won't on the Black 3.01. Sounds right about the version number though... anyway. BBC 2.1 will do fine for now I guess.
Anyone tried BBC and Live on the same device (BBC on a BES, with calendar sync) ?
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BBC 5.0? Is this the 'virtual bb' offering that bb announced not long ago?

obviously my athena fails with bb 4.x.
The only coment is that when I install, the today pluggins disappear, maybe provide some light to hackers...

titus666 said:
BBC 5.0? Is this the 'virtual bb' offering that bb announced not long ago?
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So I heard... BBC is renamed to Virtual Blackberry. Anyhow. Better version of BBC 4.0 (supposedly).

lbarouf said:
So I heard... BBC is renamed to Virtual Blackberry. Anyhow. Better version of BBC 4.0 (supposedly).
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Virtual bb works differently than BBC. Its basically a virtual machine, and thus apps within it is not integrated with WM.

My experience with BB 2 in Athena (WM5) is great. Works perfect... or at least as expected. You got the problems related to versión 2 that don't allow you to view jpg files and so on, but you receive and send messages without any problem.
My configuration is BB 2 against a BES server in release 4 (I think) and my account is on Lotus Notes R6.
Well I tested the BB 4. Madness. The program was working properly on my Athena (WM5) but the installation makes a real mess with the Today screen. Everything in today screen stop working and left the Today program unable to use or configure. That happens to more users than me. So is not a problem with my Athena (WM5). Looks like BB 4 has real troubles with Today of WM5. The guess is BB 4 is designed to be used with WM6... I'm not sure.
The BB 4 seems to work faster, supports more attachments and allows you to navigate Internet thru the BB connection which is useful for those users that are not allow to access Internet directly from the Athena.
But from my point of view BB 4 did a real mess with my WM5 so I finally made a hardreset and rollback to BB 2. I will back with BB 4 as soon as I upgrade to WM6 my Athena.
Best Regards,
mahjong

mahjong said:
My experience with BB 2 in Athena (WM5) is great. Works perfect... or at least as expected. You got the problems related to versión 2 that don't allow you to view jpg files and so on, but you receive and send messages without any problem.
My configuration is BB 2 against a BES server in release 4 (I think) and my account is on Lotus Notes R6.
Well I tested the BB 4. Madness. The program was working properly on my Athena (WM5) but the installation makes a real mess with the Today screen. Everything in today screen stop working and left the Today program unable to use or configure. That happens to more users than me. So is not a problem with my Athena (WM5). Looks like BB 4 has real troubles with Today of WM5. The guess is BB 4 is designed to be used with WM6... I'm not sure.
The BB 4 seems to work faster, supports more attachments and allows you to navigate Internet thru the BB connection which is useful for those users that are not allow to access Internet directly from the Athena.
But from my point of view BB 4 did a real mess with my WM5 so I finally made a hardreset and rollback to BB 2. I will back with BB 4 as soon as I upgrade to WM6 my Athena.
Best Regards,
mahjong
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Hi, I answered in the main BB Hacking thread.
I have version 4 installed on my Athena with WM5 without any problems. It didn't make any mess to my today screen. Also I haven't noticed any other negative side effects (except that I cannot disable the automatic device lock after max. 1 hour, but I assume thats a company policy setting, have to talk to our BES guys).
Cheers

I have it running on my AMeo, no tweaks whatsover just installed it, soft reset and voila... The only thing I have done is disablethe today item as they appear to havea few conflicts.
Its much more stable than BBC 2xx.
Bring on Virtual Blackberry im hoping that it will enable me to RDP to my work machine through the BB connection negating the need for VPN

WM6.1 Blackberry Connect XDA Orbit 2 / HTC Touch Cruise

Hi
Has Anyone Got the BlackBerry Connect Software Working on this model?
Thanks
Leon

i'd be curious as well. there are a few threads on this, and it seemed like nobody got it to work on the touch cruise (though people have gotten it to work on their touch).
out of curiosity, why are people choosing to use blackberry connect rather than direct push through exchange? i find that my push is not 100% reliable and considered using blackberry connect to fix this. does anybody else have that dilemma?

Sadly, blackberry is the 'corporate standard', so I am stuck with it.
I have managed to get the Blackberry Connect client 4.0.0.97 to work 100% reliably on HTC touch p3450 with an HTC release ROM. As soon as you load a tweaked or cooked ROM the Blackberry Connect stops working.
Sadly the XDA Orbit 2 comes with an o2 cooked rom so it wont work with that, I have a call in to o2 support but I wont hold my breath
Yours
Leon

Seams to work
Hi,
I still new to Blackberry installation. (It´s my first go today)
From what I have read here a lot of people have problems.
I´ve successfully installed 4.0.0.97 of the Polaris with Bepes 0.58 Full German, eventhough the first installation required a compleate reset:
The HTC also connects to the server, but I get an error as my current user has been rejected. I do believe that our IT Admin needs to allow me to use the Blackberry function..... or am I still doing something wrong?
Unforunately I´ve noticed that the PDA has slowed down somewhat after installing the Blackberry connect
Look forward following this post.
Cheers
Rar9

Rar9 said:
Hi,
I still new to Blackberry installation. (It´s my first go today)
From what I have read here a lot of people have problems.
I´ve successfully installed 4.0.0.97 of the Polaris with Bepes 0.58 Full German, eventhough the first installation required a compleate reset:
The HTC also connects to the server, but I get an error as my current user has been rejected. I do believe that our IT Admin needs to allow me to use the Blackberry function..... or am I still doing something wrong?
Unforunately I´ve noticed that the PDA has slowed down somewhat after installing the Blackberry connect
Look forward following this post.
Cheers
Rar9
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To get connected, you can talk to your IT amdin, but you don't need to if you also install the Blackberry Connect for Windows Mobile DESKTOP software. What that lets you do is obtain and assign a PIN to your Polaris/BBC setup. Its a security measure to tie your phone with your email account. Install BBC for WM desktop on a PC that has access to your email account (i.e. Outlook connecting to your Exchange server), then run the program. It generates a PIN, assigns it to your phone within BBC on the phone, then you should be good to go. Of course, you can talk to your IT guy otherwise.
And the slowdown is what I mentioned in the other forum. BBC uses LOTS of CPU, memory, and thus, battery.

Hi Rar9
If it connects then disconnects that is because you're using a non-release ROM (cooked).
On a succesful install of 4.0.0.97 you will see after reset a connection even if you havent configured desktop, it is required for the desktop proggie to do its work.
HTH
Leon

leondaphillips said:
Hi Rar9
If it connects then disconnects that is because you're using a non-release ROM (cooked).
On a succesful install of 4.0.0.97 you will see after reset a connection even if you havent configured desktop, it is required for the desktop proggie to do its work.
HTH
Leon
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are u saying the ver 4.0.0.97 will work n you have it on your cruise?

I have not been able to get it to work and I have the stock HTC ROM. I'm not aware of anyone who's been able to get Blackberry Connect to work on this device. Check out this thread for others in the same boat:
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276

Seven
leondaphillips said:
Hi Rar9
If it connects then disconnects that is because you're using a non-release ROM (cooked).
Leon
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Leon,
I don´t think it would be related to the cooked Rom. I believe that it tries to get allowance from the server and then is rejected since I never had a blackberry so far with this company. Unforunately I still can´t confirm 100% since the our IT has not responded to my query.
In the meantime I have removed the BBconnect and use an Outlook Webmail connection via Seven (thanks for jomo25) which is very FAST and is not so hard on the CPU like BBConnect. I also believe its a lot easier to install.
(http://community.seven.com/forum/index.php?forum=true)
I´ll give it another try once I get more feedback from our IT and will post my results.
Cheers
Rar9

Yeah I don't think it has anything to do with the ROM. There seems to be an issue with the TC connecting to the Blackberry server and I have no idea why. That thread I sent earlier contains some theories on the topic. The BC software is a resource hog for sure.
Assuming you're using BC to connect to Coporate Mail (Enterprise) you can always try Microsoft Direct Push instead of Blackberry Connect to get to the Exchange server. A less optimal path would be to use IMAP to connect to the Exchange server. Then you would lose Push mail functionality

Well, we have 2 threads on the same topic. Some diff players in each, so I'll cross-post this one last time...Here's the other thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376917
Here's what I posted last: Seven is a "competing product" to BB's suite. If you are trying to connect to a BB server, then yes, you'd need BBC. But if you are just trying to get your email delivered, whether it be personal, POP3, IMAP, or you corporate email (Exchange) and you are behind a firewall, then Seven has a solution for you. Some more elegant than others. But it works. For me, it's the only option since we do use Exchange, behind a firewall, with no OWA externally accessible and BBC's software is very juice hungry.
As for getting BBC to work. Without knowing your exact setup, its hard to know what the issue is. First, make sure you are on the right data plan. I.e. for AT&T you MUST be on one of their BB data plans. Otherwise, you won't be able to get to the blackberry.net APN needed. Then, make sure you have the BBC for WM software installed on your phone and PC. (There are 2 programs, one for each) Then, connect your phone to the PC as in ActiveSync. Run the PC's program. You should notice that ActiveSync connection is severed, and the BB program should find the phone. Then go to assign a PIN and it should. Then it shoudl start to pull email to your phone.
The second software you need to run on the PC is here:
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=225
Click on the link for: ActiveSync_BBConnect_Desktop_Setup_4.0.0.17.zip
Because BBC uses a different APN than all other network access on your phone, and your phone can only connect to one APN at a time, you will not be able to do other things like surf via IE on your phone while you are connected to BBC (another reason it sucks).
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@ Rar9, I'm glad Seven is working for you. To be honest, if you can use the Seven software, you might just wanna stick with it. Seriously, BBC is a resource hog and a half as you seem to have experienced. You'll find it tough to go thru a day without battery dying, if your expereicne with BBC was similar to mine. I even have to run Seven's Workgroup Connector (which sends my work mail through my work PC) and I STILL prefer Seven over BBC for that reason. PLUS, you don't have to worry about switching APNs between your carrier's normal Internet gateway and the blackberry.net gateway. And of course th efinal bonus: the BB data packages tend to be MUCH more expensive than the normal data ones (up to 50% price diff with AT&T).
But try it again if you would like. Hope my instructions and links above for BBC help with that.

Ok so let me clarify. I am trying to connect to get my Exchange email through a Blackberry server. Microsoft Direct Push is not an option since IT doesn't enable it on the server. I do have the Blackberry Enterprise (not personal) plan from ATT. I do have the BC software. I do have an activation code from IT. The problem is the phone does not connect to the Blackberry server. Like I mentioned in my previous post if you check out that thread on SEMS others seem to have this issue. I am getting the same behavior this user in the UK is having:
"After installation and Blackberry Setup I get:
PIN pending
IMEI it's ok
IP address No connection
Status/Service Not Connected
By pressing the "register now" button I get Blackberry Edge connection, Status/Service shows Network Available then Data Tunnel Available and finally "Not Connected". During the process I can see an IP address in the Identity screen."
Appreciate your instructions but I just don't think it works. I've tried several different versions of the BC software, no cigar.

So, just to make sure, you have the desktop PC software also? If so, what happens when you connect the PC to the phone via USB? Doesn't it ask you to move the mouse around to generate a random and unique PIN? Oh, and did you force your phone to only use Edge? I beleive AT&T's connection to the BB APN is still only available via their 2G network, not 3G (not 100% on that last thing, but I do remember it was the case before).

You know, it's been awhile since I tried this, but honestly I remember trying like every permutation. I installed and uninstalled almost every version of BC. I tried it with Edge and/or 3G. I tried using the desktop software to generate the PIN and other times I didn't. I guess I can always try again. Have you gotten it to work on your device?

Not on my Polaris. I haven't tried. I did on my Kaiser and on my Hermes. I had the same issues you describe, til I used the desktop software to gen the Pin. I'd try on my Polaris now, except that I don't have the BB data plan and don't want to go thru the hassle with the AT&T guys again to get it added (esp since I won't keep the BBC software on my phone anyways for the aforementioned issues).
So, it may be that it doesn't work with the Polaris. the new versions of BBC should work, but they may not. If you feel you've tried it and did everything right, then it just may not work as you say.
I definitely don't want to steer you down a dead end. I was just checking to see if you did everything I thought needed to be done. Sounds like you had those bases covered.
Sorry!

hambola said:
Yeah I don't think it has anything to do with the ROM. There seems to be an issue with the TC connecting to the Blackberry server and I have no idea why. That thread I sent earlier contains some theories on the topic. The BC software is a resource hog for sure.
Assuming you're using BC to connect to Coporate Mail (Enterprise) you can always try Microsoft Direct Push instead of Blackberry Connect to get to the Exchange server. A less optimal path would be to use IMAP to connect to the Exchange server. Then you would lose Push mail functionality
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Hi hambola
I read that the RIM Blackberry Connect was designed to work on Release / RTM versions of Windows mobile and has been coded to prevent it logging on via the global BES if the ROM is unsigned or if the device name is not in the list of allowed devices.
I can prove this using my trusty P3450. When loaded with a vanilla WWE RTM ROM Blackberry Connect 4.0.0.97 works fine. Load a cooked ROM and it connects then disconnects. This is the behviour I get on my polaris with its customised o2 ROM.
So it could be a clean ROM problem or it could be that Blackberry just havent allowed the Polaris to connect just yet.
Yours
Leon

xphobic said:
are u saying the ver 4.0.0.97 will work n you have it on your cruise?
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No
4.0.0.97 doesnt work on Cruise but works fine on a vanilla ROM on P3450
Yours
Leon

jomo25 said:
Not on my Polaris. I haven't tried. I did on my Kaiser and on my Hermes. I had the same issues you describe, til I used the desktop software to gen the Pin. I'd try on my Polaris now, except that I don't have the BB data plan and don't want to go thru the hassle with the AT&T guys again to get it added (esp since I won't keep the BBC software on my phone anyways for the aforementioned issues).
So, it may be that it doesn't work with the Polaris. the new versions of BBC should work, but they may not. If you feel you've tried it and did everything right, then it just may not work as you say.
I definitely don't want to steer you down a dead end. I was just checking to see if you did everything I thought needed to be done. Sounds like you had those bases covered.
Sorry!
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Hi Jomo25
no offence taken, thanks for your ideas - a second pair of eyes is always welcome!
Yours
Leon

hambola said:
Ok so let me clarify. I am trying to connect to get my Exchange email through a Blackberry server. Microsoft Direct Push is not an option since IT doesn't enable it on the server. I do have the Blackberry Enterprise (not personal) plan from ATT. I do have the BC software. I do have an activation code from IT. The problem is the phone does not connect to the Blackberry server. Like I mentioned in my previous post if you check out that thread on SEMS others seem to have this issue. I am getting the same behavior this user in the UK is having:
"After installation and Blackberry Setup I get:
PIN pending
IMEI it's ok
IP address No connection
Status/Service Not Connected
By pressing the "register now" button I get Blackberry Edge connection, Status/Service shows Network Available then Data Tunnel Available and finally "Not Connected". During the process I can see an IP address in the Identity screen."
Appreciate your instructions but I just don't think it works. I've tried several different versions of the BC software, no cigar.
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Same behaviour on a cooked ROM on P3450 - exactly the same.

German O2 Orbit 2 will support BBC in May. This is what someone from O2 told me. BBC software sends the PDA ID (Pola200) the OS version and the carrier to RIM. If your PDA is not supported by RIM you'll get " pin pending".
So we have to wait.