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GoodLink Users...DO NOT GET A UNIVERSAL!!! (yet)

I have had my imate JASJAR since Tuesday and as of this morning, I have given up trying to setup Goodlink over gprs. It just doesn't work.
Up until the universal, there has not been a factory gprs WM5 device. In fact, Good is saying that they really have only tested WM5 on a Dell Axim X50 with WiFi. So guess what will only work right now on a WM5 device? You guessed it, WiFi only.
I tried no less than 5 different ways on provisioning the device, and numerous calls to Good. It may work on gprs the first time, but after that, it will not do any send/receive on gprs. As soon as you turn on WiFi, it works like a charm.
Looks like I'm on Exchange Active Sync over gprs until they fix it, or until Exchange 2003 Server SP2 comes out. I have turned the corner on my PDA2K and I'm not looking back. The JASJAR is probably the best handheld I have ever owned. I am thinking of getting rid of my laptop in favor of using this...maybe.
Oh and by the way....Good has also not tested their apps with a VGA device (because they only tested the QVGA X50), so everything looks a little fuzzy and the cursor on the screen is one space to the right of where it should be on the screen. So it looks like you have a space after the last letter typed, but you don't.
I have no doubts that Good will have a new release soon, since the devices have now hit the market. They make a great product and I have had a good experience using it. I guess I'm just a little ahead of the curve.

Which of the server product you were trying (Good Server, Good Server Workgroup)? Also, which version of the client you were using on your device, was it 4.5.0.65?

Good Server and the most current version of the client 4.5.0.65.

You should ask them about the workgroup product. It is however currently in beta.

Why? does it have a different client? What makes it different then the server product?

I believe the client is the same, however the server is a little different. I am using it and I don't be I have the issues you have. Nonetheless, I will have to wait a little while to see how well things are going.
I always thought the pocket pc client was a little flaky especially when also sync it with the pc. However there are some days when it works well without issues.

Goodlink on WM2005
I am having similar issues on the Wizard. Good told me there will be a formal WM2005 client release in Q4 2005 and a beta/trial version of the client in the next few weeks. It seems that Sprint AV6700 users are having the same issues... I added my name to those who would like to try out the beta client. Perhaps you guys might try that also... I'll let you know if/when I get a WM2005 beta.
Regards
Chris

Can't get online on Universal, either by Wifi or when synced

Hi All,
Got myself a Dopod 900 (HTC Universal) a couple of weeks ago in Singapore, very pleased with it, luckily my pants have large pockets
But... I can't get online by WiFi. GPRS works well enough, but i'd rather not have to pay data fees when I can avoid it!
Anyway I can connect to several different wirelss networks with various access points and routers, but can't open any website or log onto MSN. Connection to the access point is fine, IP address is provided by DHCP, but it looks as if the DNS server is not (even manually specifying the server does not help). When I open IE, the status bar shows Locating.... for about 15 seconds then I get a connection lost error.
And it's the same even if I'm running activesync (I could get online on my XDAII this way)...
So, has anyone experienced something similar or can point me to the obvious configuration that I missed, I would be mucho grateful. 8)

Well this gets stranger and stranger... After installign pocket mechanic I could verify that the DHCP lease was working properly, IP, DNS and gateways are all assigned properly. But, still no IE, still no MSN. Installed agile messenger for the heck of it, and although it gives a lot of connection error in the beginning, I am able to get on MSN.
So, any thoughts? I did a hard reset already, to no avail...

Situation solved, sorta... Installed Opera, works flawlessly... Seems pocket IE just does not like me

eTiMaGo said:
Situation solved, sorta... Installed Opera, works flawlessly... Seems pocket IE just does not like me
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It's not just you.. I have the same problems... (You can see my msg in the Universal forum.. Same **** as yours. PIE and MSN would not work as well as any other internal prg using PIE's engine someway or another.. Third pary networking prg work though, dns is fine, ping is fine, name resolving fine.. i don't likw opera and wonder if you solved this weird problem..
Also if you can tell me the list of today plugins and programs installed you have.. i want to see if there's a correlation between your situation to mine...
thanks,
MOBILER

Blackberry Software for HTC device from T-Mobile Germany

Today, we got a mail, that T-Mobile germany released backberry software for HTC-Devices:
http://updateservice.t-mobile.net/blackberry/login.do?servcoid=TMD
MDA 2
MDA 3
MDA Compact
MDA Vario
MDA Pro
I haven't installed it. But this sounds good.

what kind of software? has anyone installed this yet?

ghost - can you share the software with us to try ?
I cannot log in since i do not have an account there.
Is it something the same as it was released for MDA Vario recently ?

baudy2 said:
ghost - can you share the software with us to try ?
I cannot log in since i do not have an account there.
Is it something the same as it was released for MDA Vario recently ?
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Click on free download, this would help :`)

Button [FREE SOFTWARE] > Endgeräte > Blackberry Connect

Strange, it behaves the same as the previous BB Connect released by T-Mobile for MDA Vario.
Simply does not work....

Hi,
i installed the Blackkberry software on PPC and on Desktop and its working fine.
I can setup filters on Desktop Software and alle mails will be pushed to my Universal.
The only bad thing is the battery time - I guess that I will need power every day and rechachge the battery
How long does your universal stay without recharge of the battery?
Erik

i have installed the desktop program but when i try to run it, it detects an error claiming that a connection with the mail server could not be established.
Do I need MS server installed? I only have a normal home PC with windows xp home ed.
Thanks

Hi,
I use Blackberry Push with an exchange server and own Blackberry Sever in our company.
This is how I setup my connection:
- I have an Outlook connection to my exchange server working.
- Active Sync is working.
- Install BB Software on PDA
- Install BB Software on Desktop
- Started BB Software form Settings -> Instant Mail and choose what kind of service do you want: Blackberry Solution (You have an own Blackberry Server) or Instant Email with Blackberry (to use the blackberry server of your provider). I choosed "Blackberry Solution"
- Restart Blackberry Software
- Start Your Blackberry Desktop Software, choose your Outlook Profile and Create Your Own Security Key. Your BBPin will be displayed from your PDA. If not connection doesn't work.
- Create Your filter and save all to your PDA
- If you have GPRS enabled and all works fine, you Blackberry software will connect and get your first results.
That's the way, it's working on my universal.
To save your battery live, turn of UMTS and use GPRS. You can turn it off in settings -> Telephone.
You don't need it for Blackberry service.
Erik

ghost said:
Hi,
I use Blackberry Push with an exchange server and own Blackberry Sever in our company.
This is how I setup my connection:
- I have an Outlook connection to my exchange server working.
- Active Sync is working.
- Install BB Software on PDA
- Install BB Software on Desktop
- Started BB Software form Settings -> Instant Mail and choose what kind of service do you want: Blackberry Solution (You have an own Blackberry Server) or Instant Email with Blackberry (to use the blackberry server of your provider). I choosed "Blackberry Solution"
- Restart Blackberry Software
- Start Your Blackberry Desktop Software, choose your Outlook Profile and Create Your Own Security Key. Your BBPin will be displayed from your PDA. If not connection doesn't work.
- Create Your filter and save all to your PDA
- If you have GPRS enabled and all works fine, you Blackberry software will connect and get your first results.
That's the way, it's working on my universal.
To save your battery live, turn of UMTS and use GPRS. You can turn it off in settings -> Telephone.
You don't need it for Blackberry service.
Erik
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How does this save battery power? surely the BB uses the same amount of power to stay connected to 3G as it does to GPRS??? and of course it downloads quicker using 3G

ghost said:
Hi,
I use Blackberry Push with an exchange server and own Blackberry Sever in our company.
This is how I setup my connection:
- I have an Outlook connection to my exchange server working.
- Active Sync is working.
- Install BB Software on PDA
- Install BB Software on Desktop
- Started BB Software form Settings -> Instant Mail and choose what kind of service do you want: Blackberry Solution (You have an own Blackberry Server) or Instant Email with Blackberry (to use the blackberry server of your provider). I choosed "Blackberry Solution"
- Restart Blackberry Software
- Start Your Blackberry Desktop Software, choose your Outlook Profile and Create Your Own Security Key. Your BBPin will be displayed from your PDA. If not connection doesn't work.
- Create Your filter and save all to your PDA
- If you have GPRS enabled and all works fine, you Blackberry software will connect and get your first results.
That's the way, it's working on my universal.
To save your battery live, turn of UMTS and use GPRS. You can turn it off in settings -> Telephone.
You don't need it for Blackberry service.
Erik
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How does this save battery power? surely the BB uses the same amount of power to stay connected to 3G as it does to GPRS??? and of course it downloads quicker using 3G

tonyb15re said:
How does this save battery power? surely the BB uses the same amount of power to stay connected to 3G as it does to GPRS??? and of course it downloads quicker using 3G
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Hi,
I don't know how it saves your battery - it's my experience that I can stay more than one day without 3G and BB. With switched on 3G, I need every day power.
I guess that the 3G part of your telephone is switched off and that saves power, like if you turn off WLAN or Bluetooth.
Erik

Hey Ghost,
It seems that this site is not open for all public.
Can you help me on this?
Is this just an add-on software moduel or a complete ROM-image?
I would like to test this on the BES of my company.
Thanks in advance.
Roelof

nice post man
just try it on my CHT device!coo

ghost said:
tonyb15re said:
How does this save battery power? surely the BB uses the same amount of power to stay connected to 3G as it does to GPRS??? and of course it downloads quicker using 3G
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Hi,
I don't know how it saves your battery - it's my experience that I can stay more than one day without 3G and BB. With switched on 3G, I need every day power.
I guess that the 3G part of your telephone is switched off and that saves power, like if you turn off WLAN or Bluetooth.
Erik
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Heres an answer to my own question, the power saving is probably down to the reduced amount of searches carried out to locate a UMTS connection, my phone constantly hops between GPRS and UMTS depending on coverage, each time it has to re-register hence using more power and sending more data to the network. I havent tried the GPRS Only option yet, I may give it a go next week when I'm on the road..

Do you need a specific ROM to use this software?
Cheers
Rowan

CAn I bump this topic?
I'd like to try to use this software with an O2 rom, but I suspect I won't be able to.
Can any of the guys using it confirm if it is Rom specific?
Cheers

Bump from me too.. would be very interested in the answer, since I hate the T-Mobile ROM I am forced to use now due to BB Connect.....
Has anyone actually had the BB connect work with the Q-tek ROM AKU1 ??
Thanks
Becky

ghost said:
Today, we got a mail, that T-Mobile germany released backberry software for HTC-Devices:
http://updateservice.t-mobile.net/blackberry/login.do?servcoid=TMD
MDA 2
MDA 3
MDA Compact
MDA Vario
MDA Pro
I haven't installed it. But this sounds good.
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Do you know when blackberry software will be avaible for mda compact 2 ?

The BB Connect software seems to be tied into the Service provider, there are 2 profiles, in the TMob one, email and BB Enterprise, I use the latter, the email one is hard coded for TMob bb servers.
O2 said they were going to ship a BB Client but wouldnt commit to a date.
The TMobile ROM is Old (Pre AKU2) BUT, it works, it pairs with my Parrot 3400LSGPS, it runs TomTom5.2 fine, the only downside is the gay pink video button. I do however have to reboot it a couple of times a day, and the BB Connect sometimes loses all will to live and forces me to reboot.

BB Connect on Cingular (EXPLAINED!)

THis is the only way as of this date that I have found to get Blackberry Services for BES to work on my wizard. Im sure there is little difference in setting up BB for BIS.
The following ROMS have been tested and DID NOT WORK:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU22_Basic.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard...ar_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE_CF2_A2DP-fixed.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_Custom_AKU2.3_Combo_Installer_V1.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe[/url]
So, Here is the list of files YOU WILL NEED to make BB work easily:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Blackberry/ActiveSyncInstaller2.1.1.9.zip
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Blackberry/BBConnect_PocketPC_BB_2.1.2.16.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Blackberry/RUU_Prodigy_2170702_21707102_20710_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Radio_Roms/Cingular_2.25.11_Radio_only.zip
(This is assuming you already have Microsoft ActiveSync 4.1 installed already and are using a completely unlocked phone)
1. Download all 4 files listed above
2. Make sure your handheld is connect via MS Active Sync
3. Run--> "RUU_Prodigy_2170702....exe" Follow prompts till finished. (Upon reboot you should see the QTEK logo on your Wiz Screen)
4. Go thru the Standard Screen alignment tests and so on till you get to your Palmtop (Avoid synchronizing MS ASync till the last step)
5. After Unzipping "Cingular_2.25.11_Radio_only.zip" Run--> "ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe" Follow Prompts till finished. (Complete the handheld tests)
6. Next, Run--> BBConnect_Pocket_PC_BB_2.1.2.16.exe (You should see it install the Blackberry Service.cab onto your handheld)
7. Just hit next a few times and ok, out of the BB configuration screens as we will be configuring that later.
8. Be sure you have an account on your BES before continuing.
9. Install ActiveSync_BBConnect_Desktop_Setup_2.1.1.9.exe. Follow the prompts. When the install is done you should have a PIN.
10. Hit Connect on in BBConnect to recieve your service book from BES
11. On Your Handheld goto-> start-> Settings-> Connections-> Connections-> My ISP (Add Modem)-> Choose "New"
12. Name it anything. Under "Select Modem" Choose-> Cellular Line (GPRS) then click Next
13. Under "Access Point Name" type: blackberry.net (then choose next)
14. There is no Username and Password so leave it blank. Click the "Advanced" button-> Check "Use IP header compression"-> then hit "ok"-> choose "Finish"
15. Hit OK, out to your palmtop.
Unplug your handheld form your PC and give it a few minutes to connect. Soon you should be sending and recieving Corporate email as if you were using a Blackberry.
I have one problem with this. I still cant browse the internet. Anyone know the Proxy settings for RIM's network?
GL all and have fun!

Quick Question, do you have the BES flag on your cingular acct?

BES Flag
I didnt know RIM had a flag
Most likely I would say yes as our company has been using BB's for years.

Would Cingular_2.25.11_Radio_only.zip work on an T-Mobile MDA?
C.

TMO Radio
You should use the most current T-Mobile Radio, which is locatred is here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Radio_Roms/T-Mobile_2.24.10_Radio_Only.zip

Re: TMO Radio
doggiedoor said:
You should use the most current T-Mobile Radio, which is locatred is here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Radio_Roms/T-Mobile_2.24.10_Radio_Only.zip
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It does not work with BB Connect client

TMO Radio ROM
After a long conversation with a few Cingular techs (not that this is good advice) on this subject we determined that it would be possible for you to use the Cingular radio ROM.
Just be aware that service providers outside of the US use a radio spectrum that is different from ours. This means that a Radio ROM from the wrong country could cause irrepairable damage to the radio in your phone.
It should be relatively safe to use a 'same spectrum' ROM without any worries.
US to US = safe. US to UK = not so safe

Thanks.
Applied the radio. it does work on TMO.
Unfortunately the BB Connect client still does not. It tries to establish a connection, gets an IP address and shows "data tunnel available" for a brief moment, then disconnects.
This is frustrating !
C.

BB Connect
Are you sure you have a completely SIM unlocked and CID Unlocked phone and are using the Qtek 2.17 ROM ?
Here is how you can tell your phone is completely unlocked and you are using the right ROM... (I had this same problem too)
Turn your phone off.
Turn back on.
The first screen you see should be ALL White and have the 'HTC Inovation' logo on it.
The next screen will have your ROM Versions and have the QTEK logo on it.
If you dont get that on boot up then you need to CID Unlock your phone.

BB Connect
Once you CID Unlock your phone you should reload the QTEK 2.17 ROM and Radio ROM
errr..
Just follow the instructions at the top of this post and you will start working.

Yes, I totally unlocked the phone.
However, I am not running the Qtek ROM but the TMO ROM (2.26) with the Cingular radio. I am trying to figure out which ROM/Radio combo will work on teh TMO network.
Does this QTek rom have MSFP and stereo Bluetooth ?
C.

how to
how to download i guess i dont know

BB connect working (in Australia on Telstra)
doggiedoor said:
THis is the only way as of this date that I have found to get Blackberry Services for BES to work on my wizard. Im sure there is little difference in setting up BB for BIS.
The following ROMS have been tested and DID NOT WORK:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU22_Basic.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard...ar_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE_CF2_A2DP-fixed.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_Custom_AKU2.3_Combo_Installer_V1.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe[/url]
So, Here is the list of files YOU WILL NEED to make BB work easily:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Blackberry/ActiveSyncInstaller2.1.1.9.zip
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Blackberry/BBConnect_PocketPC_BB_2.1.2.16.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Blackberry/RUU_Prodigy_2170702_21707102_20710_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Radio_Roms/Cingular_2.25.11_Radio_only.zip
(This is assuming you already have Microsoft ActiveSync 4.1 installed already and are using a completely unlocked phone)
1. Download all 4 files listed above
2. Make sure your handheld is connect via MS Active Sync
3. Run--> "RUU_Prodigy_2170702....exe" Follow prompts till finished. (Upon reboot you should see the QTEK logo on your Wiz Screen)
4. Go thru the Standard Screen alignment tests and so on till you get to your Palmtop (Avoid synchronizing MS ASync till the last step)
5. After Unzipping "Cingular_2.25.11_Radio_only.zip" Run--> "ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe" Follow Prompts till finished. (Complete the handheld tests)
6. Next, Run--> BBConnect_Pocket_PC_BB_2.1.2.16.exe (You should see it install the Blackberry Service.cab onto your handheld)
7. Just hit next a few times and ok, out of the BB configuration screens as we will be configuring that later.
8. Be sure you have an account on your BES before continuing.
9. Install ActiveSync_BBConnect_Desktop_Setup_2.1.1.9.exe. Follow the prompts. When the install is done you should have a PIN.
10. Hit Connect on in BBConnect to recieve your service book from BES
11. On Your Handheld goto-> start-> Settings-> Connections-> Connections-> My ISP (Add Modem)-> Choose "New"
12. Name it anything. Under "Select Modem" Choose-> Cellular Line (GPRS) then click Next
13. Under "Access Point Name" type: blackberry.net (then choose next)
14. There is no Username and Password so leave it blank. Click the "Advanced" button-> Check "Use IP header compression"-> then hit "ok"-> choose "Finish"
15. Hit OK, out to your palmtop.
Unplug your handheld form your PC and give it a few minutes to connect. Soon you should be sending and recieving Corporate email as if you were using a Blackberry.
I have one problem with this. I still cant browse the internet. Anyone know the Proxy settings for RIM's network?
GL all and have fun!
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Thanks for this. I've used the ROM/Radio combinations and have a working BB connect (via BES) on by Wizard. However, after bricking my last phone (G4 phone) trying to get BB connect working with the older ROM solution, I took some precaution this time around, and cooked a custom nk.nbf containing just the QTEK ROM & extended rom & the cingular radio (ie, without IPL/SPL). This also means that it does not matter if your phone is G4 and is not CID unlocked for this process to work unless you are running a very new IPL/SPL. Happy to post this if anyone wants it (and if I can work out how to).
Another point of note is that I did not need to set up the modem/access point/GPRS connection. The BB connect client worked without this.
For those interested, I had a working (older) BB connect on an XDA II, and all I did was upgrade the phone, install BB connect, install the new desktop software and connected. The desktop software picked up I had another PIN and asked whether I wanted to update (which I did), and all worked after that. One point to note is that the BB connect client was unstable with PIM (calendar) sync enabled (probably due to the large number of appointments I had). I hard-resetted, and re-set up BB connect without PIM and this has worked for the past week or so.

titus666 said:
Thanks for this. I've used the ROM/Radio combinations and have a working BB connect (via BES) on by Wizard. However, after bricking my last phone (G4 phone) trying to get BB connect working with the older ROM solution, I took some precaution this time around, and cooked a custom nk.nbf containing just the QTEK ROM & extended rom & the cingular radio (ie, without IPL/SPL). This also means that it does not matter if your phone is G4 and is not CID unlocked for this process to work unless you are running a very new IPL/SPL. Happy to post this if anyone wants it (and if I can work out how to).
Another point of note is that I did not need to set up the modem/access point/GPRS connection. The BB connect client worked without this.
For those interested, I had a working (older) BB connect on an XDA II, and all I did was upgrade the phone, install BB connect, install the new desktop software and connected. The desktop software picked up I had another PIN and asked whether I wanted to update (which I did), and all worked after that. One point to note is that the BB connect client was unstable with PIM (calendar) sync enabled (probably due to the large number of appointments I had). I hard-resetted, and re-set up BB connect without PIM and this has worked for the past week or so.
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If this would work on my G3 Cingular 8125 I would LOVE try it! Please upload it...
Thanks!

I now have BBConnect working with my companies enterprise server and I am using Vodafone contract and HTC Wizard.
Last week I was using the Molski custom ROM (fantastic ROM btw) and for the love of god BBconnect would not connect. I would connect for a second or two and then disconnect.
On Monday I installed the latest Vodafone UK ROM that is posted on the FTP server. Reinstalled the Vodafone supplied software for BBConnect and Desktop SYNC, and then connected the phone up to my laptop and exchanged PINS using the supplied Desktop SYNC (BBCONNECT) software supplied my Vodafone.
My GPRS Modem setting is web.vodafone.de (I am based in Cologne) You dont need to enter blackberry.net
Disconnected phone from laptop and all works fine. If anyone wants more info, please let me know.

groggrog said:
If this would work on my G3 Cingular 8125 I would LOVE try it! Please upload it...
Thanks!
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I would expect that it would work as the 2.x roms should work on G3 & G4 phones, but I do NOT have a G3 phone to test this. I'll try to upload the files tomorrow when I am at work.

nmonger said:
I now have BBConnect working with my companies enterprise server and I am using Vodafone contract and HTC Wizard.
Last week I was using the Molski custom ROM (fantastic ROM btw) and for the love of god BBconnect would not connect. I would connect for a second or two and then disconnect.
On Monday I installed the latest Vodafone UK ROM that is posted on the FTP server. Reinstalled the Vodafone supplied software for BBConnect and Desktop SYNC, and then connected the phone up to my laptop and exchanged PINS using the supplied Desktop SYNC (BBCONNECT) software supplied my Vodafone.
My GPRS Modem setting is web.vodafone.de (I am based in Cologne) You dont need to enter blackberry.net
Disconnected phone from laptop and all works fine. If anyone wants more info, please let me know.
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The BB Connect client transmits the phone type (Wizard), Rom version & radio version to RIM, and this is checked against the officially supported combinations. This has been well known since v1 of the BB Connect client (which I used to use on my XDA II).
It has been shown that there are certain combinations will work, and as the exact mechanism and "rules" that RIM uses to check against isn't known, all we can do is either use an "official" combination (eg, German Rom + German BB Connect client), or use a combination that have been discovered (such as the one posted in this thread).
To further illustrate this, when I had my XDA II, using the official UK rom with BB Connect V1 client, I upgraded the BB Connect client to a V2 one that was supported on the XDA Mini, and RIM blocked my PIN after a minute or so. Mail flowed again when I downgraded back to the official BB Connect V1 client.

titus666 said:
The BB Connect client transmits the phone type (Wizard), Rom version & radio version to RIM, and this is checked against the officially supported combinations. This has been well known since v1 of the BB Connect client (which I used to use on my XDA II).
It has been shown that there are certain combinations will work, and as the exact mechanism and "rules" that RIM uses to check against isn't known, all we can do is either use an "official" combination (eg, German Rom + German BB Connect client), or use a combination that have been discovered (such as the one posted in this thread).
To further illustrate this, when I had my XDA II, using the official UK rom with BB Connect V1 client, I upgraded the BB Connect client to a V2 one that was supported on the XDA Mini, and RIM blocked my PIN after a minute or so. Mail flowed again when I downgraded back to the official BB Connect V1 client.
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Titus - do you think version 1 of Blackberry Connect would work better than the current version on the Cingular 8125? If so, do you know where I can find that version? I'm having the problem where it won't get around "Blocked - Radio In Use".
Thanks much

groggrog said:
Titus - do you think version 1 of Blackberry Connect would work better than the current version on the Cingular 8125? If so, do you know where I can find that version? I'm having the problem where it won't get around "Blocked - Radio In Use".
Thanks much
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I think the V2 client works better.
The V1 client worked as long as I kept deleting the mail and kept it under approx 200 mail. More than that and the BB client starts playing up and chews up CPU on the device making it practically unusable.
The V2 client has worked well for me for email. However, when I first installed I enabled the PIM/calendar function, and it was great. But it stops working properly after a soft reset, the device starts playing up with (similar to V1 client). My guess is that the issue with both V1 & V2 clients are with the number of items, and in my case my calendar has a horrendious number of entries. V2 client has worked great since I hard reset, reinstalled and did not enable PIM. I use the device with BB on all the time, I use windows media player to play music, I use the phone often, and I hardly ever reset the phone.

titus666 said:
I would expect that it would work as the 2.x roms should work on G3 & G4 phones, but I do NOT have a G3 phone to test this. I'll try to upload the files tomorrow when I am at work.
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I've been trying to upload but I don't seem to be having any luck with ftp'ing the file up. I logged in as [email protected], and it tells me I can't put a file to /Uploads/Temp for some reason...

WM6.1 Blackberry Connect XDA Orbit 2 / HTC Touch Cruise

Hi
Has Anyone Got the BlackBerry Connect Software Working on this model?
Thanks
Leon

i'd be curious as well. there are a few threads on this, and it seemed like nobody got it to work on the touch cruise (though people have gotten it to work on their touch).
out of curiosity, why are people choosing to use blackberry connect rather than direct push through exchange? i find that my push is not 100% reliable and considered using blackberry connect to fix this. does anybody else have that dilemma?

Sadly, blackberry is the 'corporate standard', so I am stuck with it.
I have managed to get the Blackberry Connect client 4.0.0.97 to work 100% reliably on HTC touch p3450 with an HTC release ROM. As soon as you load a tweaked or cooked ROM the Blackberry Connect stops working.
Sadly the XDA Orbit 2 comes with an o2 cooked rom so it wont work with that, I have a call in to o2 support but I wont hold my breath
Yours
Leon

Seams to work
Hi,
I still new to Blackberry installation. (It´s my first go today)
From what I have read here a lot of people have problems.
I´ve successfully installed 4.0.0.97 of the Polaris with Bepes 0.58 Full German, eventhough the first installation required a compleate reset:
The HTC also connects to the server, but I get an error as my current user has been rejected. I do believe that our IT Admin needs to allow me to use the Blackberry function..... or am I still doing something wrong?
Unforunately I´ve noticed that the PDA has slowed down somewhat after installing the Blackberry connect
Look forward following this post.
Cheers
Rar9

Rar9 said:
Hi,
I still new to Blackberry installation. (It´s my first go today)
From what I have read here a lot of people have problems.
I´ve successfully installed 4.0.0.97 of the Polaris with Bepes 0.58 Full German, eventhough the first installation required a compleate reset:
The HTC also connects to the server, but I get an error as my current user has been rejected. I do believe that our IT Admin needs to allow me to use the Blackberry function..... or am I still doing something wrong?
Unforunately I´ve noticed that the PDA has slowed down somewhat after installing the Blackberry connect
Look forward following this post.
Cheers
Rar9
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To get connected, you can talk to your IT amdin, but you don't need to if you also install the Blackberry Connect for Windows Mobile DESKTOP software. What that lets you do is obtain and assign a PIN to your Polaris/BBC setup. Its a security measure to tie your phone with your email account. Install BBC for WM desktop on a PC that has access to your email account (i.e. Outlook connecting to your Exchange server), then run the program. It generates a PIN, assigns it to your phone within BBC on the phone, then you should be good to go. Of course, you can talk to your IT guy otherwise.
And the slowdown is what I mentioned in the other forum. BBC uses LOTS of CPU, memory, and thus, battery.

Hi Rar9
If it connects then disconnects that is because you're using a non-release ROM (cooked).
On a succesful install of 4.0.0.97 you will see after reset a connection even if you havent configured desktop, it is required for the desktop proggie to do its work.
HTH
Leon

leondaphillips said:
Hi Rar9
If it connects then disconnects that is because you're using a non-release ROM (cooked).
On a succesful install of 4.0.0.97 you will see after reset a connection even if you havent configured desktop, it is required for the desktop proggie to do its work.
HTH
Leon
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are u saying the ver 4.0.0.97 will work n you have it on your cruise?

I have not been able to get it to work and I have the stock HTC ROM. I'm not aware of anyone who's been able to get Blackberry Connect to work on this device. Check out this thread for others in the same boat:
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276

Seven
leondaphillips said:
Hi Rar9
If it connects then disconnects that is because you're using a non-release ROM (cooked).
Leon
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Leon,
I don´t think it would be related to the cooked Rom. I believe that it tries to get allowance from the server and then is rejected since I never had a blackberry so far with this company. Unforunately I still can´t confirm 100% since the our IT has not responded to my query.
In the meantime I have removed the BBconnect and use an Outlook Webmail connection via Seven (thanks for jomo25) which is very FAST and is not so hard on the CPU like BBConnect. I also believe its a lot easier to install.
(http://community.seven.com/forum/index.php?forum=true)
I´ll give it another try once I get more feedback from our IT and will post my results.
Cheers
Rar9

Yeah I don't think it has anything to do with the ROM. There seems to be an issue with the TC connecting to the Blackberry server and I have no idea why. That thread I sent earlier contains some theories on the topic. The BC software is a resource hog for sure.
Assuming you're using BC to connect to Coporate Mail (Enterprise) you can always try Microsoft Direct Push instead of Blackberry Connect to get to the Exchange server. A less optimal path would be to use IMAP to connect to the Exchange server. Then you would lose Push mail functionality

Well, we have 2 threads on the same topic. Some diff players in each, so I'll cross-post this one last time...Here's the other thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376917
Here's what I posted last: Seven is a "competing product" to BB's suite. If you are trying to connect to a BB server, then yes, you'd need BBC. But if you are just trying to get your email delivered, whether it be personal, POP3, IMAP, or you corporate email (Exchange) and you are behind a firewall, then Seven has a solution for you. Some more elegant than others. But it works. For me, it's the only option since we do use Exchange, behind a firewall, with no OWA externally accessible and BBC's software is very juice hungry.
As for getting BBC to work. Without knowing your exact setup, its hard to know what the issue is. First, make sure you are on the right data plan. I.e. for AT&T you MUST be on one of their BB data plans. Otherwise, you won't be able to get to the blackberry.net APN needed. Then, make sure you have the BBC for WM software installed on your phone and PC. (There are 2 programs, one for each) Then, connect your phone to the PC as in ActiveSync. Run the PC's program. You should notice that ActiveSync connection is severed, and the BB program should find the phone. Then go to assign a PIN and it should. Then it shoudl start to pull email to your phone.
The second software you need to run on the PC is here:
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=225
Click on the link for: ActiveSync_BBConnect_Desktop_Setup_4.0.0.17.zip
Because BBC uses a different APN than all other network access on your phone, and your phone can only connect to one APN at a time, you will not be able to do other things like surf via IE on your phone while you are connected to BBC (another reason it sucks).
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@ Rar9, I'm glad Seven is working for you. To be honest, if you can use the Seven software, you might just wanna stick with it. Seriously, BBC is a resource hog and a half as you seem to have experienced. You'll find it tough to go thru a day without battery dying, if your expereicne with BBC was similar to mine. I even have to run Seven's Workgroup Connector (which sends my work mail through my work PC) and I STILL prefer Seven over BBC for that reason. PLUS, you don't have to worry about switching APNs between your carrier's normal Internet gateway and the blackberry.net gateway. And of course th efinal bonus: the BB data packages tend to be MUCH more expensive than the normal data ones (up to 50% price diff with AT&T).
But try it again if you would like. Hope my instructions and links above for BBC help with that.

Ok so let me clarify. I am trying to connect to get my Exchange email through a Blackberry server. Microsoft Direct Push is not an option since IT doesn't enable it on the server. I do have the Blackberry Enterprise (not personal) plan from ATT. I do have the BC software. I do have an activation code from IT. The problem is the phone does not connect to the Blackberry server. Like I mentioned in my previous post if you check out that thread on SEMS others seem to have this issue. I am getting the same behavior this user in the UK is having:
"After installation and Blackberry Setup I get:
PIN pending
IMEI it's ok
IP address No connection
Status/Service Not Connected
By pressing the "register now" button I get Blackberry Edge connection, Status/Service shows Network Available then Data Tunnel Available and finally "Not Connected". During the process I can see an IP address in the Identity screen."
Appreciate your instructions but I just don't think it works. I've tried several different versions of the BC software, no cigar.

So, just to make sure, you have the desktop PC software also? If so, what happens when you connect the PC to the phone via USB? Doesn't it ask you to move the mouse around to generate a random and unique PIN? Oh, and did you force your phone to only use Edge? I beleive AT&T's connection to the BB APN is still only available via their 2G network, not 3G (not 100% on that last thing, but I do remember it was the case before).

You know, it's been awhile since I tried this, but honestly I remember trying like every permutation. I installed and uninstalled almost every version of BC. I tried it with Edge and/or 3G. I tried using the desktop software to generate the PIN and other times I didn't. I guess I can always try again. Have you gotten it to work on your device?

Not on my Polaris. I haven't tried. I did on my Kaiser and on my Hermes. I had the same issues you describe, til I used the desktop software to gen the Pin. I'd try on my Polaris now, except that I don't have the BB data plan and don't want to go thru the hassle with the AT&T guys again to get it added (esp since I won't keep the BBC software on my phone anyways for the aforementioned issues).
So, it may be that it doesn't work with the Polaris. the new versions of BBC should work, but they may not. If you feel you've tried it and did everything right, then it just may not work as you say.
I definitely don't want to steer you down a dead end. I was just checking to see if you did everything I thought needed to be done. Sounds like you had those bases covered.
Sorry!

hambola said:
Yeah I don't think it has anything to do with the ROM. There seems to be an issue with the TC connecting to the Blackberry server and I have no idea why. That thread I sent earlier contains some theories on the topic. The BC software is a resource hog for sure.
Assuming you're using BC to connect to Coporate Mail (Enterprise) you can always try Microsoft Direct Push instead of Blackberry Connect to get to the Exchange server. A less optimal path would be to use IMAP to connect to the Exchange server. Then you would lose Push mail functionality
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Hi hambola
I read that the RIM Blackberry Connect was designed to work on Release / RTM versions of Windows mobile and has been coded to prevent it logging on via the global BES if the ROM is unsigned or if the device name is not in the list of allowed devices.
I can prove this using my trusty P3450. When loaded with a vanilla WWE RTM ROM Blackberry Connect 4.0.0.97 works fine. Load a cooked ROM and it connects then disconnects. This is the behviour I get on my polaris with its customised o2 ROM.
So it could be a clean ROM problem or it could be that Blackberry just havent allowed the Polaris to connect just yet.
Yours
Leon

xphobic said:
are u saying the ver 4.0.0.97 will work n you have it on your cruise?
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No
4.0.0.97 doesnt work on Cruise but works fine on a vanilla ROM on P3450
Yours
Leon

jomo25 said:
Not on my Polaris. I haven't tried. I did on my Kaiser and on my Hermes. I had the same issues you describe, til I used the desktop software to gen the Pin. I'd try on my Polaris now, except that I don't have the BB data plan and don't want to go thru the hassle with the AT&T guys again to get it added (esp since I won't keep the BBC software on my phone anyways for the aforementioned issues).
So, it may be that it doesn't work with the Polaris. the new versions of BBC should work, but they may not. If you feel you've tried it and did everything right, then it just may not work as you say.
I definitely don't want to steer you down a dead end. I was just checking to see if you did everything I thought needed to be done. Sounds like you had those bases covered.
Sorry!
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Hi Jomo25
no offence taken, thanks for your ideas - a second pair of eyes is always welcome!
Yours
Leon

hambola said:
Ok so let me clarify. I am trying to connect to get my Exchange email through a Blackberry server. Microsoft Direct Push is not an option since IT doesn't enable it on the server. I do have the Blackberry Enterprise (not personal) plan from ATT. I do have the BC software. I do have an activation code from IT. The problem is the phone does not connect to the Blackberry server. Like I mentioned in my previous post if you check out that thread on SEMS others seem to have this issue. I am getting the same behavior this user in the UK is having:
"After installation and Blackberry Setup I get:
PIN pending
IMEI it's ok
IP address No connection
Status/Service Not Connected
By pressing the "register now" button I get Blackberry Edge connection, Status/Service shows Network Available then Data Tunnel Available and finally "Not Connected". During the process I can see an IP address in the Identity screen."
Appreciate your instructions but I just don't think it works. I've tried several different versions of the BC software, no cigar.
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Same behaviour on a cooked ROM on P3450 - exactly the same.

German O2 Orbit 2 will support BBC in May. This is what someone from O2 told me. BBC software sends the PDA ID (Pola200) the OS version and the carrier to RIM. If your PDA is not supported by RIM you'll get " pin pending".
So we have to wait.