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Blackberry connect problems

Dear All,
I've downloaded (from Vodafone mentioned in this Forum) the Blackberry connect Client (VPA Compact III) and I've installed it on my Tytn (with SIM as Blackberry company service and the Activesync BB on my PC) without any problems.
After the PIN syncronize, when I start the service on my Tytn, it works only for 2/3 seconds after that it goes automatically in NOT CONNECT. I've read the PDF document, and I've done the correct installation and so on ...
Where I worng ???
Is there anybody to use/work with the BB on Tytn ???
Is necessary to install the BB connect on Tytn with the SIM (with the BB serive active) present on Tytn ???
Please help me :roll:
Thanks a lot
Best Regards
Ciao, Cesare

ritmia said:
Dear All,
I've downloaded (from Vodafone mentioned in this Forum) the Blackberry connect Client (VPA Compact III) and I've installed it on my Tytn (with SIM as Blackberry company service and the Activesync BB on my PC) without any problems.
After the PIN syncronize, when I start the service on my Tytn, it works only for 2/3 seconds after that it goes automatically in NOT CONNECT. I've read the PDF document, and I've done the correct installation and so on ...
Where I worng ???
Is there anybody to use/work with the BB on Tytn ???
Is necessary to install the BB connect on Tytn with the SIM (with the BB serive active) present on Tytn ???
Please help me :roll:
Thanks a lot
Best Regards
Ciao, Cesare
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I'm very happy !!! Now it works ;-)
Thanks a lot
Best Regards
Ciao, Cesare

what did you do to make it work?
C.

cvdbl said:
what did you do to make it work?
C.
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During my tests, I've installed more BB connect versions on my Tytn, and it didn't work. Before to install the correct version one (here: http://support.vodafone.de/index_l3_2z.html#vpacompactIII), I've done a hard reset, I've installed the correct BB connect (2.1.2.16), I've installed the BB desktop 2.1 on my PC, I've set the company mail (Blackberry service instead of Internet instant mail), I've sync them and after that it works
P.S.:
I've got a company phone: Blackberry 7100v, and for my test I've installed the company SIM on my Tytn ...
Ciao, Cesare

hi
i have also a problem with my mda vario II. it cannot connect register to the blackberry server in our company. i test various files from vodafone and from xda-developers but with no sucess. everytime in the status field stand No Connection. But the gprs connection works fine when i use it with ie or other programs which uses it.
also i tested the sim in my old mda III where it works fine. i also deleted the account on the bes and createt a new one without sucess.
are there any settings that i have to make??
thanks
daniel

That's very strange :shock:
Have you tried with a hard reset, and install the correct BB connect :?:
Ciao, Cesare

today i tried it also to connect with blackberry. i made a complete reset of the mda varioII and installed the blackberry client from the vodafone site. but nothing changed, i already get no connection when i want to register to blackberry.
after that i called my provider(t-mobile austria) for help with my problem. there i get the information that there is no BB-client from them at the moment. they also said that my downloaded BB-client from vodafone will never work with my t-mobile device. but when i try this client with my mda pro and mda vario blackberry works perfect without any problems.
is there anybody who have a working mda varioII with a t-mobile rom and BB-client?

Great stuff... Don't normally post but just wanted to let you all know that the Vodafone Blackberry Connect software works a treat on my Dopod 838 Pro with Starhub in Singapore. Real push Lotus Notes e-mail from our company server in Houston.
Thanks a lot ,
philg

Problems conecting to BES
I installed the BBConnect_PocketPC_BB_2.1.2.16 on my TyTN, the ActiveSyncInstaller2.1.1.9 on my desktop, syncronized with the BES, and the status does not show conencted, it says network available for a while and then gets back to not connected. I tried blackberry support, HTC support, Cingular support (which I verified that I have the blackberry connect unlimited plan active) and nothing. Can someone help me please.........

JaimeCS,
I had a similar issue... and found the oddest behaviour.
When I had a UMTS connection - it wouldn't connect at all...the BBC client tried to start a connection, then gave up. After about 3 attempts over a minute, it finally goes back to 'Suspended by User'.
Now, here's the odd part. When I tried this again from the Office, I'm out of UMTS coverage and only get EDGE, this time it connected ! I go back home to UMTS coverage and it fails again.
But now I'm on to the next problem. I get NO EMAIL whatsoever coming down... it just sits there... I've verified the server set up since I got a Blackberry to try it out (god, that HW is ugly).
Let me know if any of this helps ? plus if you get it connected using Cingular !!!
Cheers
Dave

I made work part of the problem, I manually switched the network and the band to GSM in the device, and the status is connected and the messages are not syncronizing with my BES. Blackberry support sais that Cingular needs to active the services. Then, I realized that I have two services from Cingular the unlimited PDA and the blackberry connect unlimited. I used to have the "G" in the screen because of the unlimited PDA plan and not from the blackberry connect. Cingulr removed the PDA unlimited plan from my account, and now I don't have neither internet not blackberry..... does anybody knows which is the correct blackberry plan in USA?

BB Connect on Cingular (EXPLAINED!)

THis is the only way as of this date that I have found to get Blackberry Services for BES to work on my wizard. Im sure there is little difference in setting up BB for BIS.
The following ROMS have been tested and DID NOT WORK:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU22_Basic.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard...ar_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE_CF2_A2DP-fixed.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_Custom_AKU2.3_Combo_Installer_V1.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe[/url]
So, Here is the list of files YOU WILL NEED to make BB work easily:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Blackberry/ActiveSyncInstaller2.1.1.9.zip
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Blackberry/BBConnect_PocketPC_BB_2.1.2.16.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Blackberry/RUU_Prodigy_2170702_21707102_20710_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Radio_Roms/Cingular_2.25.11_Radio_only.zip
(This is assuming you already have Microsoft ActiveSync 4.1 installed already and are using a completely unlocked phone)
1. Download all 4 files listed above
2. Make sure your handheld is connect via MS Active Sync
3. Run--> "RUU_Prodigy_2170702....exe" Follow prompts till finished. (Upon reboot you should see the QTEK logo on your Wiz Screen)
4. Go thru the Standard Screen alignment tests and so on till you get to your Palmtop (Avoid synchronizing MS ASync till the last step)
5. After Unzipping "Cingular_2.25.11_Radio_only.zip" Run--> "ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe" Follow Prompts till finished. (Complete the handheld tests)
6. Next, Run--> BBConnect_Pocket_PC_BB_2.1.2.16.exe (You should see it install the Blackberry Service.cab onto your handheld)
7. Just hit next a few times and ok, out of the BB configuration screens as we will be configuring that later.
8. Be sure you have an account on your BES before continuing.
9. Install ActiveSync_BBConnect_Desktop_Setup_2.1.1.9.exe. Follow the prompts. When the install is done you should have a PIN.
10. Hit Connect on in BBConnect to recieve your service book from BES
11. On Your Handheld goto-> start-> Settings-> Connections-> Connections-> My ISP (Add Modem)-> Choose "New"
12. Name it anything. Under "Select Modem" Choose-> Cellular Line (GPRS) then click Next
13. Under "Access Point Name" type: blackberry.net (then choose next)
14. There is no Username and Password so leave it blank. Click the "Advanced" button-> Check "Use IP header compression"-> then hit "ok"-> choose "Finish"
15. Hit OK, out to your palmtop.
Unplug your handheld form your PC and give it a few minutes to connect. Soon you should be sending and recieving Corporate email as if you were using a Blackberry.
I have one problem with this. I still cant browse the internet. Anyone know the Proxy settings for RIM's network?
GL all and have fun!

Quick Question, do you have the BES flag on your cingular acct?

BES Flag
I didnt know RIM had a flag
Most likely I would say yes as our company has been using BB's for years.

Would Cingular_2.25.11_Radio_only.zip work on an T-Mobile MDA?
C.

TMO Radio
You should use the most current T-Mobile Radio, which is locatred is here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Radio_Roms/T-Mobile_2.24.10_Radio_Only.zip

Re: TMO Radio
doggiedoor said:
You should use the most current T-Mobile Radio, which is locatred is here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Radio_Roms/T-Mobile_2.24.10_Radio_Only.zip
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It does not work with BB Connect client

TMO Radio ROM
After a long conversation with a few Cingular techs (not that this is good advice) on this subject we determined that it would be possible for you to use the Cingular radio ROM.
Just be aware that service providers outside of the US use a radio spectrum that is different from ours. This means that a Radio ROM from the wrong country could cause irrepairable damage to the radio in your phone.
It should be relatively safe to use a 'same spectrum' ROM without any worries.
US to US = safe. US to UK = not so safe

Thanks.
Applied the radio. it does work on TMO.
Unfortunately the BB Connect client still does not. It tries to establish a connection, gets an IP address and shows "data tunnel available" for a brief moment, then disconnects.
This is frustrating !
C.

BB Connect
Are you sure you have a completely SIM unlocked and CID Unlocked phone and are using the Qtek 2.17 ROM ?
Here is how you can tell your phone is completely unlocked and you are using the right ROM... (I had this same problem too)
Turn your phone off.
Turn back on.
The first screen you see should be ALL White and have the 'HTC Inovation' logo on it.
The next screen will have your ROM Versions and have the QTEK logo on it.
If you dont get that on boot up then you need to CID Unlock your phone.

BB Connect
Once you CID Unlock your phone you should reload the QTEK 2.17 ROM and Radio ROM
errr..
Just follow the instructions at the top of this post and you will start working.

Yes, I totally unlocked the phone.
However, I am not running the Qtek ROM but the TMO ROM (2.26) with the Cingular radio. I am trying to figure out which ROM/Radio combo will work on teh TMO network.
Does this QTek rom have MSFP and stereo Bluetooth ?
C.

how to
how to download i guess i dont know

BB connect working (in Australia on Telstra)
doggiedoor said:
THis is the only way as of this date that I have found to get Blackberry Services for BES to work on my wizard. Im sure there is little difference in setting up BB for BIS.
The following ROMS have been tested and DID NOT WORK:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU22_Basic.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard...ar_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE_CF2_A2DP-fixed.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_Custom_AKU2.3_Combo_Installer_V1.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe[/url]
So, Here is the list of files YOU WILL NEED to make BB work easily:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Blackberry/ActiveSyncInstaller2.1.1.9.zip
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Blackberry/BBConnect_PocketPC_BB_2.1.2.16.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Blackberry/RUU_Prodigy_2170702_21707102_20710_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Radio_Roms/Cingular_2.25.11_Radio_only.zip
(This is assuming you already have Microsoft ActiveSync 4.1 installed already and are using a completely unlocked phone)
1. Download all 4 files listed above
2. Make sure your handheld is connect via MS Active Sync
3. Run--> "RUU_Prodigy_2170702....exe" Follow prompts till finished. (Upon reboot you should see the QTEK logo on your Wiz Screen)
4. Go thru the Standard Screen alignment tests and so on till you get to your Palmtop (Avoid synchronizing MS ASync till the last step)
5. After Unzipping "Cingular_2.25.11_Radio_only.zip" Run--> "ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe" Follow Prompts till finished. (Complete the handheld tests)
6. Next, Run--> BBConnect_Pocket_PC_BB_2.1.2.16.exe (You should see it install the Blackberry Service.cab onto your handheld)
7. Just hit next a few times and ok, out of the BB configuration screens as we will be configuring that later.
8. Be sure you have an account on your BES before continuing.
9. Install ActiveSync_BBConnect_Desktop_Setup_2.1.1.9.exe. Follow the prompts. When the install is done you should have a PIN.
10. Hit Connect on in BBConnect to recieve your service book from BES
11. On Your Handheld goto-> start-> Settings-> Connections-> Connections-> My ISP (Add Modem)-> Choose "New"
12. Name it anything. Under "Select Modem" Choose-> Cellular Line (GPRS) then click Next
13. Under "Access Point Name" type: blackberry.net (then choose next)
14. There is no Username and Password so leave it blank. Click the "Advanced" button-> Check "Use IP header compression"-> then hit "ok"-> choose "Finish"
15. Hit OK, out to your palmtop.
Unplug your handheld form your PC and give it a few minutes to connect. Soon you should be sending and recieving Corporate email as if you were using a Blackberry.
I have one problem with this. I still cant browse the internet. Anyone know the Proxy settings for RIM's network?
GL all and have fun!
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Thanks for this. I've used the ROM/Radio combinations and have a working BB connect (via BES) on by Wizard. However, after bricking my last phone (G4 phone) trying to get BB connect working with the older ROM solution, I took some precaution this time around, and cooked a custom nk.nbf containing just the QTEK ROM & extended rom & the cingular radio (ie, without IPL/SPL). This also means that it does not matter if your phone is G4 and is not CID unlocked for this process to work unless you are running a very new IPL/SPL. Happy to post this if anyone wants it (and if I can work out how to).
Another point of note is that I did not need to set up the modem/access point/GPRS connection. The BB connect client worked without this.
For those interested, I had a working (older) BB connect on an XDA II, and all I did was upgrade the phone, install BB connect, install the new desktop software and connected. The desktop software picked up I had another PIN and asked whether I wanted to update (which I did), and all worked after that. One point to note is that the BB connect client was unstable with PIM (calendar) sync enabled (probably due to the large number of appointments I had). I hard-resetted, and re-set up BB connect without PIM and this has worked for the past week or so.

titus666 said:
Thanks for this. I've used the ROM/Radio combinations and have a working BB connect (via BES) on by Wizard. However, after bricking my last phone (G4 phone) trying to get BB connect working with the older ROM solution, I took some precaution this time around, and cooked a custom nk.nbf containing just the QTEK ROM & extended rom & the cingular radio (ie, without IPL/SPL). This also means that it does not matter if your phone is G4 and is not CID unlocked for this process to work unless you are running a very new IPL/SPL. Happy to post this if anyone wants it (and if I can work out how to).
Another point of note is that I did not need to set up the modem/access point/GPRS connection. The BB connect client worked without this.
For those interested, I had a working (older) BB connect on an XDA II, and all I did was upgrade the phone, install BB connect, install the new desktop software and connected. The desktop software picked up I had another PIN and asked whether I wanted to update (which I did), and all worked after that. One point to note is that the BB connect client was unstable with PIM (calendar) sync enabled (probably due to the large number of appointments I had). I hard-resetted, and re-set up BB connect without PIM and this has worked for the past week or so.
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If this would work on my G3 Cingular 8125 I would LOVE try it! Please upload it...
Thanks!

I now have BBConnect working with my companies enterprise server and I am using Vodafone contract and HTC Wizard.
Last week I was using the Molski custom ROM (fantastic ROM btw) and for the love of god BBconnect would not connect. I would connect for a second or two and then disconnect.
On Monday I installed the latest Vodafone UK ROM that is posted on the FTP server. Reinstalled the Vodafone supplied software for BBConnect and Desktop SYNC, and then connected the phone up to my laptop and exchanged PINS using the supplied Desktop SYNC (BBCONNECT) software supplied my Vodafone.
My GPRS Modem setting is web.vodafone.de (I am based in Cologne) You dont need to enter blackberry.net
Disconnected phone from laptop and all works fine. If anyone wants more info, please let me know.

groggrog said:
If this would work on my G3 Cingular 8125 I would LOVE try it! Please upload it...
Thanks!
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I would expect that it would work as the 2.x roms should work on G3 & G4 phones, but I do NOT have a G3 phone to test this. I'll try to upload the files tomorrow when I am at work.

nmonger said:
I now have BBConnect working with my companies enterprise server and I am using Vodafone contract and HTC Wizard.
Last week I was using the Molski custom ROM (fantastic ROM btw) and for the love of god BBconnect would not connect. I would connect for a second or two and then disconnect.
On Monday I installed the latest Vodafone UK ROM that is posted on the FTP server. Reinstalled the Vodafone supplied software for BBConnect and Desktop SYNC, and then connected the phone up to my laptop and exchanged PINS using the supplied Desktop SYNC (BBCONNECT) software supplied my Vodafone.
My GPRS Modem setting is web.vodafone.de (I am based in Cologne) You dont need to enter blackberry.net
Disconnected phone from laptop and all works fine. If anyone wants more info, please let me know.
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The BB Connect client transmits the phone type (Wizard), Rom version & radio version to RIM, and this is checked against the officially supported combinations. This has been well known since v1 of the BB Connect client (which I used to use on my XDA II).
It has been shown that there are certain combinations will work, and as the exact mechanism and "rules" that RIM uses to check against isn't known, all we can do is either use an "official" combination (eg, German Rom + German BB Connect client), or use a combination that have been discovered (such as the one posted in this thread).
To further illustrate this, when I had my XDA II, using the official UK rom with BB Connect V1 client, I upgraded the BB Connect client to a V2 one that was supported on the XDA Mini, and RIM blocked my PIN after a minute or so. Mail flowed again when I downgraded back to the official BB Connect V1 client.

titus666 said:
The BB Connect client transmits the phone type (Wizard), Rom version & radio version to RIM, and this is checked against the officially supported combinations. This has been well known since v1 of the BB Connect client (which I used to use on my XDA II).
It has been shown that there are certain combinations will work, and as the exact mechanism and "rules" that RIM uses to check against isn't known, all we can do is either use an "official" combination (eg, German Rom + German BB Connect client), or use a combination that have been discovered (such as the one posted in this thread).
To further illustrate this, when I had my XDA II, using the official UK rom with BB Connect V1 client, I upgraded the BB Connect client to a V2 one that was supported on the XDA Mini, and RIM blocked my PIN after a minute or so. Mail flowed again when I downgraded back to the official BB Connect V1 client.
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Titus - do you think version 1 of Blackberry Connect would work better than the current version on the Cingular 8125? If so, do you know where I can find that version? I'm having the problem where it won't get around "Blocked - Radio In Use".
Thanks much

groggrog said:
Titus - do you think version 1 of Blackberry Connect would work better than the current version on the Cingular 8125? If so, do you know where I can find that version? I'm having the problem where it won't get around "Blocked - Radio In Use".
Thanks much
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I think the V2 client works better.
The V1 client worked as long as I kept deleting the mail and kept it under approx 200 mail. More than that and the BB client starts playing up and chews up CPU on the device making it practically unusable.
The V2 client has worked well for me for email. However, when I first installed I enabled the PIM/calendar function, and it was great. But it stops working properly after a soft reset, the device starts playing up with (similar to V1 client). My guess is that the issue with both V1 & V2 clients are with the number of items, and in my case my calendar has a horrendious number of entries. V2 client has worked great since I hard reset, reinstalled and did not enable PIM. I use the device with BB on all the time, I use windows media player to play music, I use the phone often, and I hardly ever reset the phone.

titus666 said:
I would expect that it would work as the 2.x roms should work on G3 & G4 phones, but I do NOT have a G3 phone to test this. I'll try to upload the files tomorrow when I am at work.
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I've been trying to upload but I don't seem to be having any luck with ftp'ing the file up. I logged in as [email protected], and it tells me I can't put a file to /Uploads/Temp for some reason...

BBC 4.0

Anyone got it working or tried Blackberry Connect client 4.0 on the Athena?
Mine (4.0.0.67) seems to try to create the blackberry network connection but won't connect. I can run it fine on the TyTn, but not on my X7500.
any ideas? I tried creating manually a netowrk connection for the APN, named it BlackBerry etc, to no avail. You see the device type is recognized as HTC-Athena. When I check the status, it stays at not connected. When I suspend, then resume, it briefly shows, Network available, then flashes Data Tunnel available, and quickly switches back to not connected. As if it looses connectivity. And yes, I'm all provisitioned fine, the same darn SIM in the TyTn with the same BBC client executable on it works. Go figure.

lbarouf said:
Anyone got it working or tried Blackberry Connect client 4.0 on the Athena?
Mine (4.0.0.67) seems to try to create the blackberry network connection but won't connect. I can run it fine on the TyTn, but not on my X7500.
any ideas? I tried creating manually a netowrk connection for the APN, named it BlackBerry etc, to no avail. You see the device type is recognized as HTC-Athena. When I check the status, it stays at not connected. When I suspend, then resume, it briefly shows, Network available, then flashes Data Tunnel available, and quickly switches back to not connected. As if it looses connectivity. And yes, I'm all provisitioned fine, the same darn SIM in the TyTn with the same BBC client executable on it works. Go figure.
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I had running perfectly BBC 2.1.2.54, I never hear a version 4, where is it?

lbarouf said:
Anyone got it working or tried Blackberry Connect client 4.0 ...
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I tried, but unfortunately it's the same problem like with other devices. If you don't have a matching OS-Version number you will not be able to get it up running. As far as I can see there is currently no way to change the os version number in the athenas rom. I found the right values but the .nbh file is signed, thus it will not flash.
I think we will have to wait for another BBC version or another ROM version (or someone finds a way to flash any rom).

lbarouf said:
Anyone got it working or tried Blackberry Connect client 4.0 on the Athena?
Mine (4.0.0.67) seems to try to create the blackberry network connection but won't connect. I can run it fine on the TyTn, but not on my X7500.
any ideas? I tried creating manually a netowrk connection for the APN, named it BlackBerry etc, to no avail. You see the device type is recognized as HTC-Athena. When I check the status, it stays at not connected. When I suspend, then resume, it briefly shows, Network available, then flashes Data Tunnel available, and quickly switches back to not connected. As if it looses connectivity. And yes, I'm all provisitioned fine, the same darn SIM in the TyTn with the same BBC client executable on it works. Go figure.
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I should be getting my hands on BBC 5.0, will try it. It's build for the HTC Excalibur and Hermes, but I suspect it will run also on the Athena. They are renaming the BBC to something else ?!? Anyway, the BBC 4.0 client was working fine on WM5 OEM on Hermes and on the WM6 rom for asia, can't recall which provider. Won't on the Black 3.01. Sounds right about the version number though... anyway. BBC 2.1 will do fine for now I guess.
Anyone tried BBC and Live on the same device (BBC on a BES, with calendar sync) ?

lbarouf said:
I should be getting my hands on BBC 5.0, will try it. It's build for the HTC Excalibur and Hermes, but I suspect it will run also on the Athena. They are renaming the BBC to something else ?!? Anyway, the BBC 4.0 client was working fine on WM5 OEM on Hermes and on the WM6 rom for asia, can't recall which provider. Won't on the Black 3.01. Sounds right about the version number though... anyway. BBC 2.1 will do fine for now I guess.
Anyone tried BBC and Live on the same device (BBC on a BES, with calendar sync) ?
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BBC 5.0? Is this the 'virtual bb' offering that bb announced not long ago?

obviously my athena fails with bb 4.x.
The only coment is that when I install, the today pluggins disappear, maybe provide some light to hackers...

titus666 said:
BBC 5.0? Is this the 'virtual bb' offering that bb announced not long ago?
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So I heard... BBC is renamed to Virtual Blackberry. Anyhow. Better version of BBC 4.0 (supposedly).

lbarouf said:
So I heard... BBC is renamed to Virtual Blackberry. Anyhow. Better version of BBC 4.0 (supposedly).
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Virtual bb works differently than BBC. Its basically a virtual machine, and thus apps within it is not integrated with WM.

My experience with BB 2 in Athena (WM5) is great. Works perfect... or at least as expected. You got the problems related to versión 2 that don't allow you to view jpg files and so on, but you receive and send messages without any problem.
My configuration is BB 2 against a BES server in release 4 (I think) and my account is on Lotus Notes R6.
Well I tested the BB 4. Madness. The program was working properly on my Athena (WM5) but the installation makes a real mess with the Today screen. Everything in today screen stop working and left the Today program unable to use or configure. That happens to more users than me. So is not a problem with my Athena (WM5). Looks like BB 4 has real troubles with Today of WM5. The guess is BB 4 is designed to be used with WM6... I'm not sure.
The BB 4 seems to work faster, supports more attachments and allows you to navigate Internet thru the BB connection which is useful for those users that are not allow to access Internet directly from the Athena.
But from my point of view BB 4 did a real mess with my WM5 so I finally made a hardreset and rollback to BB 2. I will back with BB 4 as soon as I upgrade to WM6 my Athena.
Best Regards,
mahjong

mahjong said:
My experience with BB 2 in Athena (WM5) is great. Works perfect... or at least as expected. You got the problems related to versión 2 that don't allow you to view jpg files and so on, but you receive and send messages without any problem.
My configuration is BB 2 against a BES server in release 4 (I think) and my account is on Lotus Notes R6.
Well I tested the BB 4. Madness. The program was working properly on my Athena (WM5) but the installation makes a real mess with the Today screen. Everything in today screen stop working and left the Today program unable to use or configure. That happens to more users than me. So is not a problem with my Athena (WM5). Looks like BB 4 has real troubles with Today of WM5. The guess is BB 4 is designed to be used with WM6... I'm not sure.
The BB 4 seems to work faster, supports more attachments and allows you to navigate Internet thru the BB connection which is useful for those users that are not allow to access Internet directly from the Athena.
But from my point of view BB 4 did a real mess with my WM5 so I finally made a hardreset and rollback to BB 2. I will back with BB 4 as soon as I upgrade to WM6 my Athena.
Best Regards,
mahjong
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Hi, I answered in the main BB Hacking thread.
I have version 4 installed on my Athena with WM5 without any problems. It didn't make any mess to my today screen. Also I haven't noticed any other negative side effects (except that I cannot disable the automatic device lock after max. 1 hour, but I assume thats a company policy setting, have to talk to our BES guys).
Cheers

I have it running on my AMeo, no tweaks whatsover just installed it, soft reset and voila... The only thing I have done is disablethe today item as they appear to havea few conflicts.
Its much more stable than BBC 2xx.
Bring on Virtual Blackberry im hoping that it will enable me to RDP to my work machine through the BB connection negating the need for VPN

WM6.1 Blackberry Connect XDA Orbit 2 / HTC Touch Cruise

Hi
Has Anyone Got the BlackBerry Connect Software Working on this model?
Thanks
Leon

i'd be curious as well. there are a few threads on this, and it seemed like nobody got it to work on the touch cruise (though people have gotten it to work on their touch).
out of curiosity, why are people choosing to use blackberry connect rather than direct push through exchange? i find that my push is not 100% reliable and considered using blackberry connect to fix this. does anybody else have that dilemma?

Sadly, blackberry is the 'corporate standard', so I am stuck with it.
I have managed to get the Blackberry Connect client 4.0.0.97 to work 100% reliably on HTC touch p3450 with an HTC release ROM. As soon as you load a tweaked or cooked ROM the Blackberry Connect stops working.
Sadly the XDA Orbit 2 comes with an o2 cooked rom so it wont work with that, I have a call in to o2 support but I wont hold my breath
Yours
Leon

Seams to work
Hi,
I still new to Blackberry installation. (It´s my first go today)
From what I have read here a lot of people have problems.
I´ve successfully installed 4.0.0.97 of the Polaris with Bepes 0.58 Full German, eventhough the first installation required a compleate reset:
The HTC also connects to the server, but I get an error as my current user has been rejected. I do believe that our IT Admin needs to allow me to use the Blackberry function..... or am I still doing something wrong?
Unforunately I´ve noticed that the PDA has slowed down somewhat after installing the Blackberry connect
Look forward following this post.
Cheers
Rar9

Rar9 said:
Hi,
I still new to Blackberry installation. (It´s my first go today)
From what I have read here a lot of people have problems.
I´ve successfully installed 4.0.0.97 of the Polaris with Bepes 0.58 Full German, eventhough the first installation required a compleate reset:
The HTC also connects to the server, but I get an error as my current user has been rejected. I do believe that our IT Admin needs to allow me to use the Blackberry function..... or am I still doing something wrong?
Unforunately I´ve noticed that the PDA has slowed down somewhat after installing the Blackberry connect
Look forward following this post.
Cheers
Rar9
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To get connected, you can talk to your IT amdin, but you don't need to if you also install the Blackberry Connect for Windows Mobile DESKTOP software. What that lets you do is obtain and assign a PIN to your Polaris/BBC setup. Its a security measure to tie your phone with your email account. Install BBC for WM desktop on a PC that has access to your email account (i.e. Outlook connecting to your Exchange server), then run the program. It generates a PIN, assigns it to your phone within BBC on the phone, then you should be good to go. Of course, you can talk to your IT guy otherwise.
And the slowdown is what I mentioned in the other forum. BBC uses LOTS of CPU, memory, and thus, battery.

Hi Rar9
If it connects then disconnects that is because you're using a non-release ROM (cooked).
On a succesful install of 4.0.0.97 you will see after reset a connection even if you havent configured desktop, it is required for the desktop proggie to do its work.
HTH
Leon

leondaphillips said:
Hi Rar9
If it connects then disconnects that is because you're using a non-release ROM (cooked).
On a succesful install of 4.0.0.97 you will see after reset a connection even if you havent configured desktop, it is required for the desktop proggie to do its work.
HTH
Leon
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are u saying the ver 4.0.0.97 will work n you have it on your cruise?

I have not been able to get it to work and I have the stock HTC ROM. I'm not aware of anyone who's been able to get Blackberry Connect to work on this device. Check out this thread for others in the same boat:
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276

Seven
leondaphillips said:
Hi Rar9
If it connects then disconnects that is because you're using a non-release ROM (cooked).
Leon
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Leon,
I don´t think it would be related to the cooked Rom. I believe that it tries to get allowance from the server and then is rejected since I never had a blackberry so far with this company. Unforunately I still can´t confirm 100% since the our IT has not responded to my query.
In the meantime I have removed the BBconnect and use an Outlook Webmail connection via Seven (thanks for jomo25) which is very FAST and is not so hard on the CPU like BBConnect. I also believe its a lot easier to install.
(http://community.seven.com/forum/index.php?forum=true)
I´ll give it another try once I get more feedback from our IT and will post my results.
Cheers
Rar9

Yeah I don't think it has anything to do with the ROM. There seems to be an issue with the TC connecting to the Blackberry server and I have no idea why. That thread I sent earlier contains some theories on the topic. The BC software is a resource hog for sure.
Assuming you're using BC to connect to Coporate Mail (Enterprise) you can always try Microsoft Direct Push instead of Blackberry Connect to get to the Exchange server. A less optimal path would be to use IMAP to connect to the Exchange server. Then you would lose Push mail functionality

Well, we have 2 threads on the same topic. Some diff players in each, so I'll cross-post this one last time...Here's the other thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376917
Here's what I posted last: Seven is a "competing product" to BB's suite. If you are trying to connect to a BB server, then yes, you'd need BBC. But if you are just trying to get your email delivered, whether it be personal, POP3, IMAP, or you corporate email (Exchange) and you are behind a firewall, then Seven has a solution for you. Some more elegant than others. But it works. For me, it's the only option since we do use Exchange, behind a firewall, with no OWA externally accessible and BBC's software is very juice hungry.
As for getting BBC to work. Without knowing your exact setup, its hard to know what the issue is. First, make sure you are on the right data plan. I.e. for AT&T you MUST be on one of their BB data plans. Otherwise, you won't be able to get to the blackberry.net APN needed. Then, make sure you have the BBC for WM software installed on your phone and PC. (There are 2 programs, one for each) Then, connect your phone to the PC as in ActiveSync. Run the PC's program. You should notice that ActiveSync connection is severed, and the BB program should find the phone. Then go to assign a PIN and it should. Then it shoudl start to pull email to your phone.
The second software you need to run on the PC is here:
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=225
Click on the link for: ActiveSync_BBConnect_Desktop_Setup_4.0.0.17.zip
Because BBC uses a different APN than all other network access on your phone, and your phone can only connect to one APN at a time, you will not be able to do other things like surf via IE on your phone while you are connected to BBC (another reason it sucks).
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@ Rar9, I'm glad Seven is working for you. To be honest, if you can use the Seven software, you might just wanna stick with it. Seriously, BBC is a resource hog and a half as you seem to have experienced. You'll find it tough to go thru a day without battery dying, if your expereicne with BBC was similar to mine. I even have to run Seven's Workgroup Connector (which sends my work mail through my work PC) and I STILL prefer Seven over BBC for that reason. PLUS, you don't have to worry about switching APNs between your carrier's normal Internet gateway and the blackberry.net gateway. And of course th efinal bonus: the BB data packages tend to be MUCH more expensive than the normal data ones (up to 50% price diff with AT&T).
But try it again if you would like. Hope my instructions and links above for BBC help with that.

Ok so let me clarify. I am trying to connect to get my Exchange email through a Blackberry server. Microsoft Direct Push is not an option since IT doesn't enable it on the server. I do have the Blackberry Enterprise (not personal) plan from ATT. I do have the BC software. I do have an activation code from IT. The problem is the phone does not connect to the Blackberry server. Like I mentioned in my previous post if you check out that thread on SEMS others seem to have this issue. I am getting the same behavior this user in the UK is having:
"After installation and Blackberry Setup I get:
PIN pending
IMEI it's ok
IP address No connection
Status/Service Not Connected
By pressing the "register now" button I get Blackberry Edge connection, Status/Service shows Network Available then Data Tunnel Available and finally "Not Connected". During the process I can see an IP address in the Identity screen."
Appreciate your instructions but I just don't think it works. I've tried several different versions of the BC software, no cigar.

So, just to make sure, you have the desktop PC software also? If so, what happens when you connect the PC to the phone via USB? Doesn't it ask you to move the mouse around to generate a random and unique PIN? Oh, and did you force your phone to only use Edge? I beleive AT&T's connection to the BB APN is still only available via their 2G network, not 3G (not 100% on that last thing, but I do remember it was the case before).

You know, it's been awhile since I tried this, but honestly I remember trying like every permutation. I installed and uninstalled almost every version of BC. I tried it with Edge and/or 3G. I tried using the desktop software to generate the PIN and other times I didn't. I guess I can always try again. Have you gotten it to work on your device?

Not on my Polaris. I haven't tried. I did on my Kaiser and on my Hermes. I had the same issues you describe, til I used the desktop software to gen the Pin. I'd try on my Polaris now, except that I don't have the BB data plan and don't want to go thru the hassle with the AT&T guys again to get it added (esp since I won't keep the BBC software on my phone anyways for the aforementioned issues).
So, it may be that it doesn't work with the Polaris. the new versions of BBC should work, but they may not. If you feel you've tried it and did everything right, then it just may not work as you say.
I definitely don't want to steer you down a dead end. I was just checking to see if you did everything I thought needed to be done. Sounds like you had those bases covered.
Sorry!

hambola said:
Yeah I don't think it has anything to do with the ROM. There seems to be an issue with the TC connecting to the Blackberry server and I have no idea why. That thread I sent earlier contains some theories on the topic. The BC software is a resource hog for sure.
Assuming you're using BC to connect to Coporate Mail (Enterprise) you can always try Microsoft Direct Push instead of Blackberry Connect to get to the Exchange server. A less optimal path would be to use IMAP to connect to the Exchange server. Then you would lose Push mail functionality
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Hi hambola
I read that the RIM Blackberry Connect was designed to work on Release / RTM versions of Windows mobile and has been coded to prevent it logging on via the global BES if the ROM is unsigned or if the device name is not in the list of allowed devices.
I can prove this using my trusty P3450. When loaded with a vanilla WWE RTM ROM Blackberry Connect 4.0.0.97 works fine. Load a cooked ROM and it connects then disconnects. This is the behviour I get on my polaris with its customised o2 ROM.
So it could be a clean ROM problem or it could be that Blackberry just havent allowed the Polaris to connect just yet.
Yours
Leon

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are u saying the ver 4.0.0.97 will work n you have it on your cruise?
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No
4.0.0.97 doesnt work on Cruise but works fine on a vanilla ROM on P3450
Yours
Leon

jomo25 said:
Not on my Polaris. I haven't tried. I did on my Kaiser and on my Hermes. I had the same issues you describe, til I used the desktop software to gen the Pin. I'd try on my Polaris now, except that I don't have the BB data plan and don't want to go thru the hassle with the AT&T guys again to get it added (esp since I won't keep the BBC software on my phone anyways for the aforementioned issues).
So, it may be that it doesn't work with the Polaris. the new versions of BBC should work, but they may not. If you feel you've tried it and did everything right, then it just may not work as you say.
I definitely don't want to steer you down a dead end. I was just checking to see if you did everything I thought needed to be done. Sounds like you had those bases covered.
Sorry!
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Hi Jomo25
no offence taken, thanks for your ideas - a second pair of eyes is always welcome!
Yours
Leon

hambola said:
Ok so let me clarify. I am trying to connect to get my Exchange email through a Blackberry server. Microsoft Direct Push is not an option since IT doesn't enable it on the server. I do have the Blackberry Enterprise (not personal) plan from ATT. I do have the BC software. I do have an activation code from IT. The problem is the phone does not connect to the Blackberry server. Like I mentioned in my previous post if you check out that thread on SEMS others seem to have this issue. I am getting the same behavior this user in the UK is having:
"After installation and Blackberry Setup I get:
PIN pending
IMEI it's ok
IP address No connection
Status/Service Not Connected
By pressing the "register now" button I get Blackberry Edge connection, Status/Service shows Network Available then Data Tunnel Available and finally "Not Connected". During the process I can see an IP address in the Identity screen."
Appreciate your instructions but I just don't think it works. I've tried several different versions of the BC software, no cigar.
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Same behaviour on a cooked ROM on P3450 - exactly the same.

German O2 Orbit 2 will support BBC in May. This is what someone from O2 told me. BBC software sends the PDA ID (Pola200) the OS version and the carrier to RIM. If your PDA is not supported by RIM you'll get " pin pending".
So we have to wait.

How To - Get 6.5.1 - to use WIFI for Internet?

Hi,
at home I have WIFI setup and my topaz is connected to it. but I am pretty sure the phone is still trying to use the ATT MediaNET Connection and since I am in the country that is EDGE and not 3G :-(
How do I get it to use WIFI when available (like when at Starbucks, home, etc)? I am sure I am not the only one
PS: yes I searched and there are many options that seem related to the RTM 6.5 build using an app that ATT shipped.
I am running shadowline's latest 6.5.1 build

As far as I know from my WM6.1 and WM6.5 experience, wireless (when available,of course) has always priority on Data Connection (through your telco), the only exception I know is explained the Note...Shouldn't be much different with WM6.5.1; if you can establish a wifi connection at home you should be able to connect in a public place aswell. Anyway, just to be sure, check the topbar to verify what kind of connection you are using. If the phone icon changed to "E" (or G or H) this means you're on data Connection and could cost money,depending on your operator contract.
Hint: set the Power Mode to Best Performance in Wifi Settings to get a better connection...sometimes it is set to Best Battery as default,making wifi unusable
Note: Live Mail services such as Hotmail require Data Connection, thank you Microsoft

look in my other post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587955

Quite confusing the way you post...happy you solved your problem, although your solution refers to WM6.5, not WM6.5.1. Never had such an issue with WM6.5.

sualc said:
Note: Live Mail services such as Hotmail require Data Connection, thank you Microsoft
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Wait wait wait,
Can't we access windows live Hotmail with wi-fi? If not, why??
I was able to before when I used to have an xperia.
We should be able to access windows live and Windows Live Mesesnger right?

Don't panic, I wanted to mean that it is possible to log into Messenger and into Hotmail with wifi, but if you have a configured data connection with your operator (e.g. made with Automatic Configuration) ,it will override wifi. To avoid that, delete data connection or use NoData.cab