Hi,
I appreciate that there have been posts on the issues with some car BT kits, but was hoping to get some clarity in terms of with what the fault lies.
I currently have the MMI kit in the car and have also tried with a Jabra 250 headset. I ran the same comparison with my other phone - a Nokia 6280. The Nokia works fine on both kist, but the issue with the TyTN seems to be that I can make outgoing calls, but for incoming I get silence and so does the caller.
At forst, I though it was becasue I use TomTom but it is still an issue without TT running. I understand that some BMW and Parrot H/F kit users are having issues and I really want to try and determine if it is some bizare quirk of these specific kits - or a TyTN issue. Also, I have been trying the Jetware mobile software and whilst it gives me the signal strength and Operator info on the MMI display it does not fix the silent incoming calls issue. I have had some PM conversation with Markee (thanks!) and he doesn'y have this issue with his Audi kit??
Really frustrating and any help or advice would be gratefully received.
Are You using Jetware?
If so try to disable "Use phone ringtones" in the advanced options.
Jetware claims to at least partially support the Audi BT kit...
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/bthfx/support.htm
Update:
I tried disabling the "use phone ringtones" and I now get silence on both outbound and inbound calls.....
:?
Bah!
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Hi everybody,
I completed some tests using my bluetooth car kit (Audi integrated BT MMI car kit). Here is what I saw :
With the original french ROM (1.18.256.2)
Outgoing calls
90% of the calls were interrupted during dialing or connection. The main problem was UMTS stability with the french mobile operator named SFR. After deactivating UMTS/3G and falling back to GSM, 80% of the calls were interrupted during the first minute of communication because of BT unstability.
Incoming calls
Impossible to take a call : half were immediatly interrupted, half were answered using the internal micro instead of the BT one.
With the JasJam ROM (1.20.305.3)
Outgoing calls
After deactivating UMTS/3G support all the calls are stable. Every thing is working fine and the Audi BT car kit works just fine !
Incoming calls
Still impossible to take a call : quite all are not well handled. BT is still unusable to take calls.
I don't think the BT car kit is the problem, because I am using it every day with a Qtek 8310 (Tornado) and both incoming and outgoing calls are well handled.
If you've got some experience, please share it. I am so disapointed that this marvelous TyTN cannot replace my Tornado, only because this "merdique" (<------ french romantic word ) bluetooth functionnality is not working ! :evil:
Arnaud.
Hi Arnaud,
I too have problems - see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61594
Paul
Im also having problems with carkit.
Jasjam and kjam just dont connect with my carkit (while they pair with it) but Jasjam and all nokia / samsung phones work perfectly well with it. Even Palm treo 650 works.
Is this a problem with iMate sets or with Windows Mobile 5.0?
I've had a friend who also has a TyTN which we tried in my kit and it didn't work. It seems that users with other variants (e.g. Orange) don't have this issue?
Further (non-technical) tests have shown that if you answer or make a call, you can get the audio by going into the call menu and choosing "Turn handsfree off". My uneducated guess here is that there is some issue with the headset feature on the TyTN and by doing this, it resets the headset profile and bingo!
It is a pain in the ar$e doing this for inbound calls, but for outbound it is manageable - you simply dial the number and whilst it is connecting, do the menu->Turn handsfree off workaround. Hopefully the new ROM will fix it - when it arrives!!
Hi All,
Just to put in my experience.
I have an Audi A4 with a Gen II car kit. As there is no handset holder for the TyTn I am using the Bluetooth function.
I have the Orange SPV M3100 variant, which works absolutley fine with the Audi Bluetooth, with one problem....
As I don't yet have a car charger, when the phone goes into sleep mode, it appears to disable bluetooh (I occasionally get a 'BT OFF' signal on the car display). Switching off bluetooth, then switching on again on the phone tends to kick it back into life where it stays live for another ten minutes or so until the phone dozes off again..
I have heard of a few people who have also diagnosed the problem as possbily the phone going to sleep to conserve battery, and solved the problem with an in car charger. I will report back when I have a charger.
Again, I do not suspect the Audi car kit as I have previoulsy used this (on Bluetooth) with a Nokia 6230 and MDA Vario, with no problems at all (the Vario was externally powered from the car).
Maybe you TyTn owners can flash to the Orange ROM ;-)
Same Scenario Different Cast
I have a Lexus GS with BT.... here's my Undesired results
actually, the only Problem i am having is very annoying.
If i receive or make a call after i pair with the Car kit, EVERY Thing is fine,
The sound quality is good, the response time is good (no Delay).
BUT after that call is ended, the BT itself on the jasjam TURNS off...
so i have to turn the BT on After EVERY Single Call (either made or received)
Is this Normal, I don't think so, but i had to ask
I have the Original Ship ROM Arabic version
My BMW handsfree works just fine with my TyTN. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). Interestingly, it's not sleep mode related since it usually works just fine in that mode. Generally, disabling Bt then re-enabling it re-establishes the connection then all is well. I have no issues making or receiving calls.
No doubt CarKit issues will be addressed when HTC releases their ROM update. Recent information tells me that this update is pretty much guaranteed to be an AKU3.0 variant. There's a tremendous amount of BT stack improvements in this AKU that should improve this as well as A2DP bluetooth issues.
.. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). ..
Interesting! I have the same issue with MTeoR.. I wonder if MteoR and TyTn are based on the same HTC device PLATFORM.
Updated my Parrot CK3100 to the newest version and things still don't work too well. When I start a call on the Parrot it takes around 20 seconds to start dialing on the phone, and when I receive a call I have to pick it up, place it on hold, and retrieve from hold to be able to hear the other side.
I wonder what/why they changed in the Bluetooth stack, it worked perfectly on my Wizard...
Renault Laguna II integrated BT kit
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
rmorby said:
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
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Try installing Jetware mobile extender, that adds signal and battery bars as well as network name.
I enabled Remote SIM Acces in the Bluetooth Menu and now my contacts sync on my Audi Bluetooth Car kit with WM 6.1.
Is there any possible way to repair the BT annoying thing?
I've got a Parrto BT set in my car and the tytn disconnects all the time, when I achieve the connections I cannot transfer my contacts...
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Which model of Parrot car kit is it? I use the CK3100 (the one with the LCD) and it works except for the usual TyTN switching BT off when it disconnects from the Parrot after stopping the car. Sync works fine.
Might also be worth looking in the Parrot forums at http://www.driveblue.com/
Gav.
Parrot
I also have the 3100!!
When I get into the car it doesn't recognize me. I need to go to congiguration and establish the link, the it seems that it starts to sinchronize the agenda but it doesn't!!!
Hi again.
Is there any chance you have the power cables to the Parrot CK3100 the wrong way round? If that is the case then the Parrot CK3100 will forget the pairing to your phone and you will need to re-pair everytime. The easiest way to fix this is to reverse the wires at the fuse.
Basically there are 2 wires on the Parrot Parrot CK3100, one perminent to the battery for saving the memory and the other is the ignition. When the ignition goes to 12v then the Parrot CK3100 powers on and tries to connect to the phones in its pairing memory list (upto 5).
Do you know which firmware is on your Parrot CK3100? The latest is 4.15b > it's under the Advance menu.
Gav.
Don't think so
I don't think so because it worked perfectly well with my Blackberry!
Got my TyTN yesterday (had a Wizard) and so far it works just fine with my CK3100. Syncs nice and fast and connects within 10 seconds. I did install Jetware mobile extender to make the display a little better. Haven't experienced the TyTN turning BT off yet...
Hi Pablete,
Strange. I can only suggest re-pairing and updating the Parrot to the latest firmware rev.
Hi Scott,
What advantage does Jetware mobile extender give?
Gav.
Jetware changes the "network OK" to the real network name, adds signal and battery bars, adds the phone ringtone instead of the Parrot ringtone and several other cool features.
Edit: the URL... http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
problem BT and voice dial
when i push green button on parrot, no voice dialling possible tru speakers?
Any solutions.
If i use (new) voice dial 1.6 (which reads sms) same things happen and additionally when i use dial a number i even can not confirm?
anybody a solution
thanx in advance
re960088 said:
when i push green button on parrot, no voice dialling possible tru speakers?
Any solutions.
If i use (new) voice dial 1.6 (which reads sms) same things happen and additionally when i use dial a number i even can not confirm?
anybody a solution
thanx in advance
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Not completely sure I understand the question? If you meant to ask if it is possible to do voice dialing in the carkit instead of the phone then head to the voice commands menu, and in the bottom you'll find an option to change where voice commands are processed; carkit or phone.
i meant when i push the parrot green button the application voice dialer switches on on my TYTN, but no beep can be heared tru the car speakers?
with the newest cyberon voice dialler i can not confirm or redial, even if used outside the car?
Any suggestions
Does anyone know which bluetooth carkits work without problems in combination with the Hermes/TyTN?
With the Parrot CK3000 Evolution I have now, I have the known problems with the Bluetooth turning itself of on the Hermes/TyTN.
I switched to the Parrot when I had an Magician/MDA Compact and a Nokia CK-7W and that combination had an awful amount of echo for the other party. The Parrot didn't have the echo, but I had to reset my MDA Compact quite often to get it to work properly.
I wouldn't mind getting something else again, but which one? Is there a bluetooth Carkit out there that works as it is supposed to with the TyTN?
Hi SomeJoe
There seem to be mixed reports on this - and it has been discussed previously:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276272&highlight=bluetooth
It seems that a "true" TyTn has issues, whereas Orange and others do not - most likely better ROM/BT?
Irrespective, try going into menu when making/receiving a call and selecting "Turn handsfree off". This seems to reset the headset profile and turns the audio on. Easy for outgoing, fiddly when answering incoming but manageable until the perky ROM update (hopefully) fixes it
Thanks for the reply, but knowing T-Mobile it might be a while before firmware updates show up.
Can anyone name specific brand and types of carkits that they have good experiences with?
Have Atom Life with WM6 upgrade. When using it with my bluetooth car kit I can make outgoing calls with no problems at all. However when an incoming call is answered the bluetooth connection drops out (not the phone call) after about five seconds.
Have this problem with two different types of bluetooth car kits so it is definitely the phone. Have written to O2 however no response to date.
Anyone esle experiencing this problem?
Hi Folk
Ive had a quick search and not found anyone with the same issue.... might be cos the phone is new out.
I have a parrot bluetooth hands-free kit in the car and since changing from the iphone to the DHD i cannot use the call pickup button to call out like i would nomally do in the iphone.
Is there something i need to do or is this function not availble on this phone? Im new to the android software so ive probably missed the obvious.
Thanks in advance
Muzzy
A also have a parrot BT kit ( Mki-9000) but I don't have such issue. I can play music via a2dp, and also I can make calls and everything works fine.
The only issue I have is when i want to answer an incoming call - if I answer through the phone ( by pressing the green button) the sound is not forwarded to the BT kit. I don't have such issues with my Nokia.
I can't test right now what will happen if I answer through the BT kit because my Steering Wheel remote control is out of power.
To resolve your problem try to search the parrot website's forum also check for the latest firmware updates for your device. In the past I have similar issue with HTC3300 but after firmware update it was fixed.
The issue I have (mki9200) is that A2DP seems to be on permantly, so when listening to my ipod through the parrot, if I have satnav on, then the directions come through the parrot kit. If a new email or txt comes in, the notification comes through the parrot. With my old Omnia, I could deactivate the Headset profile (A2DP) and keep the Hands Free profile when I was connected to my parrot.
Can this be done on the DHD.
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jazzymc said:
... The only issue I have is when i want to answer an incoming call - if I answer through the phone ( by pressing the green button) the sound is not forwarded to the BT kit. I don't have such issues with my Nokia.
I can't test right now what will happen if I answer through the BT kit because my Steering Wheel remote control is out of power. ...
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Check out ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834983&page=3 .... my post #22. Should answer your *problem*. I had the same thing when switching from Nokia to HTC .... But if you check a couple of posts later I've also found that I can use the phone to initiate a call and the sound *does* go to the Bt device ....
Dave