BT Carkit without problems? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Does anyone know which bluetooth carkits work without problems in combination with the Hermes/TyTN?
With the Parrot CK3000 Evolution I have now, I have the known problems with the Bluetooth turning itself of on the Hermes/TyTN.
I switched to the Parrot when I had an Magician/MDA Compact and a Nokia CK-7W and that combination had an awful amount of echo for the other party. The Parrot didn't have the echo, but I had to reset my MDA Compact quite often to get it to work properly.
I wouldn't mind getting something else again, but which one? Is there a bluetooth Carkit out there that works as it is supposed to with the TyTN?

Hi SomeJoe
There seem to be mixed reports on this - and it has been discussed previously:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276272&highlight=bluetooth
It seems that a "true" TyTn has issues, whereas Orange and others do not - most likely better ROM/BT?
Irrespective, try going into menu when making/receiving a call and selecting "Turn handsfree off". This seems to reset the headset profile and turns the audio on. Easy for outgoing, fiddly when answering incoming but manageable until the perky ROM update (hopefully) fixes it

Thanks for the reply, but knowing T-Mobile it might be a while before firmware updates show up.
Can anyone name specific brand and types of carkits that they have good experiences with?

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Upgrade Pocket Bluetooth Tools 1.0.1.2

The current version 1.60 of the ROM includes already a virtual serial port but unfortunately it is a dynamic port, which is not visible to many applications. Also the ActiveSync support is difficult and complicated to use and if you want to synchronize with different computers you have always to couple the device again.
For future releases I plan the following improvements:
Support for Bluetooth headsets
Support for Bluetooth network access points
Send contacts and files through Bluetooth
http://www.angeltowns.com/town/bluetooth/
i am looking also for handsfree bluetooth support if any help on that
Yeah, headset works fine, it's the handsfree profile we need, that's the one adding enhanced features....
Do you know why some headsets work better than others? I understand that the profile does not work and therefore you can not use the functions on the headsets, but I'm curious if your recent fix will help headsets such as the Jabra BT250 communicate better with the device. The HBH-65 has no issues, but Jabra does note, often very slow to connect. I like the Jabra because I can hear better-age you know.
gratefuled said:
Do you know why some headsets work better than others?
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Maybe because of the headsets itself ? I bought a HBH-35 and can do [/quote]anything with it, walk out of range and back, turn it off and on, reset the MDA, chanrge the headset etc etc. without having to re-pair...
I understand that the profile does not work and therefore you can not use the functions on the headsets, but I'm curious if your recent fix will help headsets such as the Jabra BT250 communicate better with the device. The HBH-65 has no issues, but Jabra does note, often very slow to connect. I like the Jabra because I can hear better-age you know.
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What headset-functions do you mean ? Caller ID ? Voicedial etc. ?
That's not in the headsetprofile, that's in the handsfree profile. the headsets with enhanced functions use the handsfreeprofile also, nut just the headsetprofile...
downloaded and installed 1.0.1.2 fantastic my new bt gps works! However I can not use my gps and hbh-65 headset at the same time, any ideas please
Simply stated I was wondering if the new blutooth fix might help the Jabra BT250 work better. I know other headsets work without issue, but Jabra seems to have some problems, and I doubt that this is a Jabra problem, I believe it is a BT Device profile issue.
Can I have another link to the software cause the link is blocked from my ISP, or can any body upload it here or any other palce...
Best regards,,,
I have a new HBH-200, it works ok to answer a call but all the other features are not working, such as caller number etc.
Like i said; It's not i the headsetprofile. The headsetprofile doesn't do much except making a wireless headset possible. Answer, dosconnect and talk and listen, that's all...
Everyting else is in the handsfreeprofile (handsfree is used for advanced options for headsets and carkits)...
Link down????? :?:
not for me
Handfree Profile
I have 2 phones, XDA II and a Nokia 8910i.
My bluetooth Headset is the Ericsson HBH65.
To my surprise, I have paired the HBH65 with both phones and I am able to receive calls from both phones (not at the same time of course) without any problems. Whichever phone rings first get the use of the HBH65. In conflicts however, the Nokia seems to have priority over the XDAII, which is fine with me, but I am so happy that it actually works.
As others are mentioning, I am really missing the enhanced functions of the Handsfree Profile. Can anyone suggest any solution or perhaps work on resolving this issue as a lot of people are waiting for this. I was aware that Towas was planning to release a new version to his BT Stack Fix, has he got anywhere with that by any chance? or anyone else?

Bluetooth headset problem

I have only had my XDA 2 for a week and I can’t get my Motorola 810 head set to work. The XDA finds it and tells me that it is compatible with headset profiles but it doesn't seem to work. Can anyone advise me?
Thanks
Andy
Have you followed the procedure for pairing the device,ie: place xda in discover mode, when it finds the headset, tap then enter code for pairing, once paired switch bluetooth to on, then make sure you have bluetooth headset turned on from the main/today screen.
I seem to have problems with my bluetooth headset every once in a while also. I have a HBH65. On ocassion, the connection doesn't seem to be working even though headset is enabled and they are paired. I've found that if I soft reset the XDA2, that the bluetooth headset will work again.
Have you installed towas bluetooth tools patch, this fixes a lot of problems with bonding and alos makes things work where they couldnt before. I was told that the latest rom release here in UK was going to address all these problems too but I havent got around to upgrading yet, I hope it supports full headset profiles so I can originate calls from the headset as well as answering the call.
I have downloaded the new Rom update and it seems no different. I have tried a soft reset and this did not improve the situation.
I know the headset works fine as I use it with my nokia handset with no problem.
Has anyone got a Motorola 810 that works ok on the XDA ?
cruisin-thru said:
Have you installed towas bluetooth tools patch, this fixes a lot of problems with bonding and alos makes things work where they couldnt before. I was told that the latest rom release here in UK was going to address all these problems too but I havent got around to upgrading yet, I hope it supports full headset profiles so I can originate calls from the headset as well as answering the call.
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did the bluetooth tools patch support voice dial from bluetooth headset? if not did anyone know the new rom from O2 works with this function? thanks!
Andy, no it doesnt support originate call from headset but it did allow lots of different gps and headsets to work, the headsets work for answer call/drop call only as far as I know, in the notes for the xda2 upgrade it mentions the headset profile but I dont know if anybody has hot the headset facility to work yet, I havent upgraded yet so I am yet to test it.
I have installed the new ROM and as far as I can see it does nothing for Bluetooth beyond fixing some compatibility issues on some headsets. It still only allows one headset profile (so if you have a headset and a handsfree kit as I do you need to delete bonded pairs when you change devices - now there's intelligent functionality!!). No headset dialing so still not a complete BT headset implementation. No handsfree support.
Anyone else think that the XDAII is a great PDA but about the worst apology for a GSM phone in the last 10 years?
If anyone can point me to a decent set of BT tools to add on let me know.
Not really.
I fully agree the XDAII is a poor phone, with the best agenda and contact list available, but that is!
I wonder if Phone-pda makers are really going the so called "convergence" way.
To date, and after many different PDA/phone/PDA-Phone devices I've tried, no one is even close to the mark.
Something so "simple" such as merging an OLD Ericsson (or Sony-Ericsson) T-68 phone abilities, with just a PPC 2002 (yes, not even 2003) PDA, should produce a combo, no machine on the market is even close to.
IT'S SO DIFFICULT?
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XDA Exec & bluetooth headset; does it work well?

Hello all,
I'm considering moving up to the XDA Exec; especially now that I see many contributors here have worked out how to get it running well.
However I suspect that, with its bigger size, using a bluetooth headset will be even more important. My experiences with my XDAII were that it was never quite reliable enough to use day-to-day (even after trying different bluetooth stacks etc.)
So what are your experiences:
- does it work well
- how about the voice dialling via bluetooth
- caller id on compatibale headsets work?
cheers,
Pete
I'd say it depends on your headset, but yes: The Exec handles my Bluetooth headset more reliably than my XDA2 did.
I've got a SonyEricsson HBH-65 that was occasionally great and occasionally infuriating with my XDA2, but it seems much happier with the Exec. It's not perfect since it's tough to interpret the various bleeps and boops that the headset gives out and understand what they mean, but I'm getting used to it. It'd be a lot easier if the headset makers could give us more than one button... :roll:
With my HBH-65 and my Exec I can receive calls and use voice dialling to make calls (provided I've configured the voice dial commands already). The voicedial bleeps are a bit quiet in the headset but trial and error might improve things.
Some people seem to have problems using voicedial if their Exec is closed and turned off, but I don't seem to have the same problem. The first press of the headset button switches the Exec on and then a second one gives me the voice prompt.
Hope this helps
I've tried a Bluespoon AX and a Plantronics Discovery 640 with my headset and while they both appear to work fine functionaly, the quality of the audio is bad. I've tested the same bluetooth devices with other phones and the quality is much better.
Does anyone else have this problem? I'm going to go into to O2 later today and see if they've had reports of this before. Maybe I have a dud device.
I have an Exec, a Jasjar *and* an MDA Pro the Exec is mine, the rest is Eval.) and the Exec and MDA pro handle BT Headset fine. The Jasjar however keeps dropping the connection between the device and the headset. Flashing the MDA Pro with the Jasjar ROM made that the Pro also started dropping the connection between device and headset.
Conclusion, something is flaky in the Jasjar Rom.
There are a number of posts relating to this dropping of connection in this forum.
G'day
I have had the Jabra BT800 for a few months and never used it as it was pointless with the XDA IIs, but it works perfectly with the JasJar. It even rings about half a second before the phone does and shows the callers number (pitty it doesnt show the name from the phones contacts).
I am happy i didnt sell the BT800, as now i can keep the JasJar closed in my pocket when i just need to answer the phone.
Paul
ive used a jabra bt250v no problems voice dial is much better and works fine but i havent found how to get the audiogaeway working any ideas anyone so i can get tomtom throught the headset
JJ and Jabra BT 800 work well and voice dial works very well. Have made 1.5 hours in the last two weeks and not dropped calls. When used inside a car or in a room the signal is okay but as soon as you use the Jabra BT800 and JJ outside the signal gets weaker.

Anyone experience with MDAII & Bluetooth headset?

Hi all,
I have an MDA II and a Plantronics M2500 BT headset. So far so good....
I managed to connect them together, and after some work (bonding, etc.), I was able to phone using my headset.
However, I have the following problem:
If I switch on my BT headset and enable BT on MDA II (so BT 'on', BT headset mode 'enabled'), the 2 devices do not automatically connect.
I have to 'play around' a bit, e.g. by disabling/enabling BT headset mode, turning BT settings on/off/discoverable, turning on/off the BT headset, and try calling some numbers for testing before it works.
After a short while (and if I'm lucky , I can call and receive calls using my headset.
This is of course not the ideal situation. I'd like to have the devices work automatically as soon as I turn them on.
I have the suspicion that this is a bug.... Did anybody else have similar problems and does anyone have an idea how to get this fixed?
Oh yeah: I am using a BT GPS mouse as well for TomTom 5 and this device is also bounded to the MDA II.
Thank you very much in advance!
BTW: the quality of the BT headset (once I get it working) is pretty good, so no problems there...
Yep, one of the problems with (some) BT sets...
Didn't have is with a Sony Errocson HBHxxx, did with a Jabra, didn't with a Supertooth2 etc....
Try the famous BTtools, it often helps...
Or get another headset

TyTN bluetooth car kit issues

Hi everybody,
I completed some tests using my bluetooth car kit (Audi integrated BT MMI car kit). Here is what I saw :
With the original french ROM (1.18.256.2)
Outgoing calls
90% of the calls were interrupted during dialing or connection. The main problem was UMTS stability with the french mobile operator named SFR. After deactivating UMTS/3G and falling back to GSM, 80% of the calls were interrupted during the first minute of communication because of BT unstability.
Incoming calls
Impossible to take a call : half were immediatly interrupted, half were answered using the internal micro instead of the BT one.
With the JasJam ROM (1.20.305.3)
Outgoing calls
After deactivating UMTS/3G support all the calls are stable. Every thing is working fine and the Audi BT car kit works just fine !
Incoming calls
Still impossible to take a call : quite all are not well handled. BT is still unusable to take calls.
I don't think the BT car kit is the problem, because I am using it every day with a Qtek 8310 (Tornado) and both incoming and outgoing calls are well handled.
If you've got some experience, please share it. I am so disapointed that this marvelous TyTN cannot replace my Tornado, only because this "merdique" (<------ french romantic word ) bluetooth functionnality is not working ! :evil:
Arnaud.
Hi Arnaud,
I too have problems - see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61594
Paul
Im also having problems with carkit.
Jasjam and kjam just dont connect with my carkit (while they pair with it) but Jasjam and all nokia / samsung phones work perfectly well with it. Even Palm treo 650 works.
Is this a problem with iMate sets or with Windows Mobile 5.0?
I've had a friend who also has a TyTN which we tried in my kit and it didn't work. It seems that users with other variants (e.g. Orange) don't have this issue?
Further (non-technical) tests have shown that if you answer or make a call, you can get the audio by going into the call menu and choosing "Turn handsfree off". My uneducated guess here is that there is some issue with the headset feature on the TyTN and by doing this, it resets the headset profile and bingo!
It is a pain in the ar$e doing this for inbound calls, but for outbound it is manageable - you simply dial the number and whilst it is connecting, do the menu->Turn handsfree off workaround. Hopefully the new ROM will fix it - when it arrives!!
Hi All,
Just to put in my experience.
I have an Audi A4 with a Gen II car kit. As there is no handset holder for the TyTn I am using the Bluetooth function.
I have the Orange SPV M3100 variant, which works absolutley fine with the Audi Bluetooth, with one problem....
As I don't yet have a car charger, when the phone goes into sleep mode, it appears to disable bluetooh (I occasionally get a 'BT OFF' signal on the car display). Switching off bluetooth, then switching on again on the phone tends to kick it back into life where it stays live for another ten minutes or so until the phone dozes off again..
I have heard of a few people who have also diagnosed the problem as possbily the phone going to sleep to conserve battery, and solved the problem with an in car charger. I will report back when I have a charger.
Again, I do not suspect the Audi car kit as I have previoulsy used this (on Bluetooth) with a Nokia 6230 and MDA Vario, with no problems at all (the Vario was externally powered from the car).
Maybe you TyTn owners can flash to the Orange ROM ;-)
Same Scenario Different Cast
I have a Lexus GS with BT.... here's my Undesired results
actually, the only Problem i am having is very annoying.
If i receive or make a call after i pair with the Car kit, EVERY Thing is fine,
The sound quality is good, the response time is good (no Delay).
BUT after that call is ended, the BT itself on the jasjam TURNS off...
so i have to turn the BT on After EVERY Single Call (either made or received)
Is this Normal, I don't think so, but i had to ask
I have the Original Ship ROM Arabic version
My BMW handsfree works just fine with my TyTN. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). Interestingly, it's not sleep mode related since it usually works just fine in that mode. Generally, disabling Bt then re-enabling it re-establishes the connection then all is well. I have no issues making or receiving calls.
No doubt CarKit issues will be addressed when HTC releases their ROM update. Recent information tells me that this update is pretty much guaranteed to be an AKU3.0 variant. There's a tremendous amount of BT stack improvements in this AKU that should improve this as well as A2DP bluetooth issues.
.. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). ..
Interesting! I have the same issue with MTeoR.. I wonder if MteoR and TyTn are based on the same HTC device PLATFORM.
Updated my Parrot CK3100 to the newest version and things still don't work too well. When I start a call on the Parrot it takes around 20 seconds to start dialing on the phone, and when I receive a call I have to pick it up, place it on hold, and retrieve from hold to be able to hear the other side.
I wonder what/why they changed in the Bluetooth stack, it worked perfectly on my Wizard...
Renault Laguna II integrated BT kit
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
rmorby said:
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
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Try installing Jetware mobile extender, that adds signal and battery bars as well as network name.
I enabled Remote SIM Acces in the Bluetooth Menu and now my contacts sync on my Audi Bluetooth Car kit with WM 6.1.

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