I have only had my XDA 2 for a week and I can’t get my Motorola 810 head set to work. The XDA finds it and tells me that it is compatible with headset profiles but it doesn't seem to work. Can anyone advise me?
Thanks
Andy
Have you followed the procedure for pairing the device,ie: place xda in discover mode, when it finds the headset, tap then enter code for pairing, once paired switch bluetooth to on, then make sure you have bluetooth headset turned on from the main/today screen.
I seem to have problems with my bluetooth headset every once in a while also. I have a HBH65. On ocassion, the connection doesn't seem to be working even though headset is enabled and they are paired. I've found that if I soft reset the XDA2, that the bluetooth headset will work again.
Have you installed towas bluetooth tools patch, this fixes a lot of problems with bonding and alos makes things work where they couldnt before. I was told that the latest rom release here in UK was going to address all these problems too but I havent got around to upgrading yet, I hope it supports full headset profiles so I can originate calls from the headset as well as answering the call.
I have downloaded the new Rom update and it seems no different. I have tried a soft reset and this did not improve the situation.
I know the headset works fine as I use it with my nokia handset with no problem.
Has anyone got a Motorola 810 that works ok on the XDA ?
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Have you installed towas bluetooth tools patch, this fixes a lot of problems with bonding and alos makes things work where they couldnt before. I was told that the latest rom release here in UK was going to address all these problems too but I havent got around to upgrading yet, I hope it supports full headset profiles so I can originate calls from the headset as well as answering the call.
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did the bluetooth tools patch support voice dial from bluetooth headset? if not did anyone know the new rom from O2 works with this function? thanks!
Andy, no it doesnt support originate call from headset but it did allow lots of different gps and headsets to work, the headsets work for answer call/drop call only as far as I know, in the notes for the xda2 upgrade it mentions the headset profile but I dont know if anybody has hot the headset facility to work yet, I havent upgraded yet so I am yet to test it.
I have installed the new ROM and as far as I can see it does nothing for Bluetooth beyond fixing some compatibility issues on some headsets. It still only allows one headset profile (so if you have a headset and a handsfree kit as I do you need to delete bonded pairs when you change devices - now there's intelligent functionality!!). No headset dialing so still not a complete BT headset implementation. No handsfree support.
Anyone else think that the XDAII is a great PDA but about the worst apology for a GSM phone in the last 10 years?
If anyone can point me to a decent set of BT tools to add on let me know.
Not really.
I fully agree the XDAII is a poor phone, with the best agenda and contact list available, but that is!
I wonder if Phone-pda makers are really going the so called "convergence" way.
To date, and after many different PDA/phone/PDA-Phone devices I've tried, no one is even close to the mark.
Something so "simple" such as merging an OLD Ericsson (or Sony-Ericsson) T-68 phone abilities, with just a PPC 2002 (yes, not even 2003) PDA, should produce a combo, no machine on the market is even close to.
IT'S SO DIFFICULT?
:evil: :evil:
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Now that we're likely to get a working solution for our Bluetooth worries thanks to TOWA it seems sensible to revisit the BT-stack implementation on the XDA II. I spent some time working through the Microsoft documentation to come up with this assessment.
All previous PDA's have used the Widcomm stack, which supports a multitude of BT-profiles,specifically the Serial Port Protocol, which it emulates as a COM-port. Unfortunately, the Widcomm stack does not support the Headset service, which is required for the phone. This is why the installation of the Widcomm stack on the XDA eventually failed -just couldn't support the headset.
The Microsoft stack actualy also supports the serial port profile, but uses a different implementation. Their BT-stack is socket based and aligned very close to the IRDA-implementation we all know from our PC's. Just as the PC generally requires that famous "IRCOM"-applet, so does the Microsoft BT-stack (this is basically what TOWA is working on).
The Microsoft Bluetooth stack is actually very flexible, which gives us hope of seeing the XDA II support more and more Bluetooth functions as time goes along.
But why did MS not implement the COM port? If it takes TOWA a week to do the job with limited resources, why couldn't MS have done the same? And if the MS Stack is flexible, why do they leave out functions when they release it?
I'm sure MS could have done it, but the they didn't do it for IRDA either.
I think they are trying to push their implementation architecture upon us.
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Now that we're likely to get a working solution for our Bluetooth worries thanks to TOWA it seems sensible to revisit the BT-stack implementation on the XDA II. I spent some time working through the Microsoft documentation to come up with this assessment.
All previous PDA's have used the Widcomm stack, which supports a multitude of BT-profiles,specifically the Serial Port Protocol, which it emulates as a COM-port. Unfortunately, the Widcomm stack does not support the Headset service, which is required for the phone. This is why the installation of the Widcomm stack on the XDA eventually failed -just couldn't support the headset.
The Microsoft stack actualy also supports the serial port profile, but uses a different implementation. Their BT-stack is socket based and aligned very close to the IRDA-implementation we all know from our PC's. Just as the PC generally requires that famous "IRCOM"-applet, so does the Microsoft BT-stack (this is basically what TOWA is working on).
The Microsoft Bluetooth stack is actually very flexible, which gives us hope of seeing the XDA II support more and more Bluetooth functions as time goes along.
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I would like to take this oppertunity to thank Towa for the great job he did with the TOM TOM gps bt issue. I will be getting my imate(xda2...) ppc soon, and I have the following questions, as I am quite a novus:
1. does the gps doohicky that Towa wrote enable the xda2 to work with the bt headset as a handsfree profile, since the xda2 only supports headset profile? or is it only to create a port so the tom tom can find it and work with it?.
2. If no to question 1, then I would like to share my expieriance with bt headsets, which I cannot understand untill this day and may be you can help?. I currently use a Nokia 6310 and previously was using it with the Ericsson hbh-20. Since, the Nokia phone did not suport voice activation or reject a call from the headset, I could only voice dial through the headset after I pushed a button on the 6310. So I thought, no biggie it was Nokia's fault since I successfuly voice dailed when paired to my friends t 68. Then I tried my 6310 with my other friends hbh-30 bt carkit, and wouldn't you know that the voice activation from the bt carkit's button worked like a charm (stumped. who to blame know, we always need someone to blame.) So, after that my third friend bought me the new Nokia clip-on bt headset, it works as a complete handsfree headset with my old Nokia 6310, rejecting, auto answer, voice dialing ... all from the headset. So, my question is do I have too many freinds? (just kidding), how do you expect the xda2 and the new Nokia clip on headset to communicate with each other?. In headset profile or handsfree profile?.
3. If your answer to question 2, is headset profile, then will we have to beg the "Great One" also known as "The Man" (as qouted earlier on gps bt forum of this site" Mr.TOWA himself, to write us another doohiky to make them work in handsfree profile.
p.s. In my opinion, anyone who has downloaded Towa's doohiky for gps and had a positive result, should donnate something for this hard worker.
Thank you, and sorry for being so boring.[/quote]
TOWA's great app only fixes the serial port issue, by basically establishing a permanent virtual com-port using the functionality built into the Microsoft BT-stack.
Unfortunately, inmplementing a Handsfree profile will be much more complex, so don't expect a quick fix on that. I'm sure HTC and Microsoft are working on it, but I wouldn't expect a fix this year.
Regarding your BT-observations, it seems that the implementation of the profiles on each device is different and probably none of them are really complete.
I think the Bluetooth Org will have to do something to improve its performance and compatibility testing! :evil:
Thank you for your kind reply.
Whenever I receive a call, it is automatically transferred to my SE BTH-60 headset, so I am using it handsfree mode actually. I can accept/reject the call thru the headset.
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Whenever I receive a call, it is automatically transferred to my SE BTH-60 headset, so I am using it handsfree mode actually. I can accept/reject the call thru the headset.
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Handsfree profile lets you use the automatic feature, which automaticaly accepts and answers (after a you specify the number of rings) the call without pressing any button on the bt headset.
Also, the handsfree profile lets you use the voice dial feature by activating it from the bt headset and without touching the mobile phone. and other features...
Does, anyone have any expirence with new nokia clip-on bt headset and the xda2.
Thanks
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TOWA's great app only fixes the serial port issue, by basically establishing a permanent virtual com-port using the functionality built into the Microsoft BT-stack.
Unfortunately, inmplementing a Handsfree profile will be much more complex, so don't expect a quick fix on that. I'm sure HTC and Microsoft are working on it, but I wouldn't expect a fix this year.
Regarding your BT-observations, it seems that the implementation of the profiles on each device is different and probably none of them are really complete.
I think the Bluetooth Org will have to do something to improve its performance and compatibility testing! :evil:
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Thank you again for your kind reply.
Sirs, I believe the time has come for me to beg the great one "TOWA" to write us a new doohicky, to make the xda 2 work in handsfree profile with handsfree bt headsets and others.
So, Towa, if your reading, have you ever had someone to beg you for something in writing?? :lol:
Must be nice bieng the man!!
The current version 1.60 of the ROM includes already a virtual serial port but unfortunately it is a dynamic port, which is not visible to many applications. Also the ActiveSync support is difficult and complicated to use and if you want to synchronize with different computers you have always to couple the device again.
For future releases I plan the following improvements:
Support for Bluetooth headsets
Support for Bluetooth network access points
Send contacts and files through Bluetooth
http://www.angeltowns.com/town/bluetooth/
i am looking also for handsfree bluetooth support if any help on that
Yeah, headset works fine, it's the handsfree profile we need, that's the one adding enhanced features....
Do you know why some headsets work better than others? I understand that the profile does not work and therefore you can not use the functions on the headsets, but I'm curious if your recent fix will help headsets such as the Jabra BT250 communicate better with the device. The HBH-65 has no issues, but Jabra does note, often very slow to connect. I like the Jabra because I can hear better-age you know.
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Do you know why some headsets work better than others?
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Maybe because of the headsets itself ? I bought a HBH-35 and can do [/quote]anything with it, walk out of range and back, turn it off and on, reset the MDA, chanrge the headset etc etc. without having to re-pair...
I understand that the profile does not work and therefore you can not use the functions on the headsets, but I'm curious if your recent fix will help headsets such as the Jabra BT250 communicate better with the device. The HBH-65 has no issues, but Jabra does note, often very slow to connect. I like the Jabra because I can hear better-age you know.
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What headset-functions do you mean ? Caller ID ? Voicedial etc. ?
That's not in the headsetprofile, that's in the handsfree profile. the headsets with enhanced functions use the handsfreeprofile also, nut just the headsetprofile...
downloaded and installed 1.0.1.2 fantastic my new bt gps works! However I can not use my gps and hbh-65 headset at the same time, any ideas please
Simply stated I was wondering if the new blutooth fix might help the Jabra BT250 work better. I know other headsets work without issue, but Jabra seems to have some problems, and I doubt that this is a Jabra problem, I believe it is a BT Device profile issue.
Can I have another link to the software cause the link is blocked from my ISP, or can any body upload it here or any other palce...
Best regards,,,
I have a new HBH-200, it works ok to answer a call but all the other features are not working, such as caller number etc.
Like i said; It's not i the headsetprofile. The headsetprofile doesn't do much except making a wireless headset possible. Answer, dosconnect and talk and listen, that's all...
Everyting else is in the handsfreeprofile (handsfree is used for advanced options for headsets and carkits)...
Link down????? :?:
not for me
Handfree Profile
I have 2 phones, XDA II and a Nokia 8910i.
My bluetooth Headset is the Ericsson HBH65.
To my surprise, I have paired the HBH65 with both phones and I am able to receive calls from both phones (not at the same time of course) without any problems. Whichever phone rings first get the use of the HBH65. In conflicts however, the Nokia seems to have priority over the XDAII, which is fine with me, but I am so happy that it actually works.
As others are mentioning, I am really missing the enhanced functions of the Handsfree Profile. Can anyone suggest any solution or perhaps work on resolving this issue as a lot of people are waiting for this. I was aware that Towas was planning to release a new version to his BT Stack Fix, has he got anywhere with that by any chance? or anyone else?
Hey guys. I have an XDA II and the Motorola Bluetooth headset. I gave up trying to use the headset before the updated XDA II ROM as it was very temperamental to say the least. Now I have updated the ROM its much better but I still have problems. If I am dialling out and put the headset on first then its fine, transfers to the headset etc. If I am wearing the headset and then take a call its fine, transfers to headset etc. But if I am not wearing the headset, say it’s in its case and the arm is closed then I get a call, I open the arm and stick the headset on and answer a call and nothing. Wont transfer to headset and I need to use the phone. Not good when driving! Is this still a XDA II problem? Have I set it up wrong or is the headset not working right? Bascially I need to have the arm open on the headset at all times for it to work like it should (like it did on my T68i) and its very annoying? Any ideas?
This is the headset http://www.motorola.com/mdirect/software/ss_html_docs/bluetooth/bluetooth_headset_info.pdf
Thanks in advance
Have you installed bluetooth tools? Unbond your headset then rebond after installing bluetooth tools.
What the best place to get the bluetooth tools from? Sorry if this has already been asked. And are they free??
Thanks
Yeah I did try bluetooth tools but it did not seem to make any difference maybe its just my headset, it was like one of the first Bluetooth headsets out :? I dunno...
You can get Bluetooth tools from...http://www.angeltowns.com/town/bluetooth/
And it seems to be free
Thanks for that.
However, I could not find the settings button, Just a display on the screen. What are the 1 & 2 buttons for??
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Yeah the only changes you see are when adding new devices like headsets etc as far as I know. I thought the same as you, went through all the options looking for it hehe. Those two things on the screen are something to do with selecting different settings for bluetooth to conserve battery like always on or auto off. I am not too sure as I removed it when it did not fix my problem!
Yeah, I removed it too. It caused me all sorts of problems with connecting my bluetooth jabra bt200!
I tested my QTEK 2020 with my new SonyEricsson HBH-600 (Akono) and it didnt work first time bonding it. The OS asked me if I wanted to use it as a headset but it simply didnt work
I downloaded Bluetooth tools and bonded again and chooses the headset profile. Now it works perfect!
It was worth the 500SEK (66USD)
I had a nightmare at first with my Plantronics M3000 headset too, it kept losing it's bonding and requiring the passcode to be re-entered (not the easiest thing to do in the outside lane of the M6).
However, install Bluetooth Tools and it works like a dream, looks like BT is a must have addition.
Gonna have to try it with a Jabra h/s now as they look nicer!
I have a Jabra 250 and it works great with the XDA II.
How would Bluetooth tools improve things?
What other benefits are there?
If it works dont install BT Tools It didnt work for me with the original software so I made a try with BT Tools and then it worked fine.
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What other benefits are there?
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Turns BT on with incoming calls and off automatically when no BT activity is detected.
This is in my opinion the most important feature: you dont have to keep the BT always on, saving a lot of battery power.
Then it manages a couple of power profiles (e.g. backlight always on).
Then... many other things @ http://www.angeltowns.com/town/bluetooth
Bye
I have the same headset (HBH-600) as you and it worked right away with my XDA. Why is it different? I thought the hardware on your QTek and my XDA is the same?
ive searched for ck-7w in the hermes section but finds nothing? surely others must use this handsfree kit?
Well my issues, my hermes wont find it when searching for bluetooth devises? Never had any issues with my wizzard?
ive tryed a few different wm6 roms, now on the black.
Is there a cab somewhere to fix this, as i cant, use this phone until i get it sorted with my car kit
Hi fil,
I can't speak to WM6 but my 7W works well (usually) with my 8525 WM5 ATT Upgrade Rom. I remapped the ptt button to activate the built-in voice dialing. Sometimes the system announces the name throught the 7w speaker, other time via the 8525 speaker. Who knows why?
The quality of the recognition software is fair. I am planning on re-recording some of the voice tags in the car via the 7w mic. I have a feeling this will result in greater accuracy. It has to do the the acoustics where the tags are recorded.
My BT settings in the 8525 are
Mode = Turn on BT and Make device visable
Devices = add new device, if it finds it, click on Nokia CK-7w & check off Hands Free, at the bottom of the screen hit Save
BTW, the 7w data cable 5 volt lead does not have enough balls to charge the 8525.
Let me know if you get WM6 working with the 7w.
Lyle
You've already tried to reset the CK-7W ?
Especially when your Nokia Carkit has an other mobile paired in his memory (an old one for example) it won't pair the Tytn.
Worked for me (reset CK-7W).
After that my carkit works fine with yhe Tytn but has proplems if I wan't to pair a second (Symbian) phone.
alylea, my tytn wont even find it, when searching, have ticked the make seeable to othe devices, the method you discribe works perfectly as said on my wizard
davw, reset the ck-7w how?
tho the ck-7w can do up to 7 phones in its memory i belive, had no issues with a wizard and 2 different nokia all paired on it allready?
davw said:
You've already tried to reset the CK-7W ?
Especially when your Nokia Carkit has an other mobile paired in his memory (an old one for example) it won't pair the Tytn.
Worked for me (reset CK-7W).
After that my carkit works fine with yhe Tytn but has proplems if I wan't to pair a second (Symbian) phone.
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again how'd you reset it? dont have the manual
still aint working, see unable to see the kit!???
anyone?
right its working now?, done nothing different?
was sitting in my car thismorning doing a bluetooth search for my new stereo headset i picked up from the PO on my way to work, it found it and the carkit , and paired with both!
well problem solved, but **** knows how ???
No idea what did the trick but here is the Nokia Europe site for the manual.
http://www.nokia.co.uk/A4222096
So iGuidance voice instructions do not come out of the CK-7W speaker not do the voice dialing confirmation names, although basic HF function works. I'm testing an inexpensive application that routes all audio from the 8525 to the BT output. I'll let you know if it works.