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Bluetooth Tools & Nokia Handsfree Advice?

I'm aware of the various BT issues with the XDA II, and therefore installed BT Tools thinking it may allow me to use my handfree kit. Unfortunately I'm experiencing problems and not sure if this is me doing something wrong or there is a problem with the software. Basically the XDA II does not route either incoming or outgoing calls via the handfrees unit. I have do the following:-
1. Installed the latest BT Tools.
2. Created a bond with the Nokia Handfree kit, when prompted for the BT profile (the BT Tools icon screen) I select headset only.
3. Enable BT on the XDA II
When I make or receive a call is there any button or menu I should be selecting to enable the handsfree unit?

From the Today screen, make sure bluetooth headset mode is enabled.

And if Bluetooth Headset Mode does not appear on the today screen:
Start -> Settings -> Today -> Items and make sure Profile is checked. That will put the headset mode switch on the Today screen.

Thanks for the suggestions, I must admit I had missed the headset profile on the Today screen.
Even with the device paired, BT enabled & the Headset enable neither incoming or outgoing calls are routed through the handsfree unit.
Any other suugestions welcomed...

With the new bluetooth tools you need to transfer the call to the headset...
I find the best way when dialing is to have the phone ready to dial, then i hit the answer button on the headset causing the phone to dial & transfer sound to the headset @ the same time.
When answering the call the headset should ring and you press the answer button on the headset to recieve the call.
Ta
Christian

When you say press the headset button are you referring to the headset icon on the XDA or the Nokia handsfree button?
If its the Nokia button , I'll try this tomorrow, if not, then the icon does not ring and when receiving a call it is covered by the incoming call window.
Many thanks...

the nokia headset button
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Christian

Yep thats what I thought, I think I can confidently say there is a compatability issue with using the current version of BT Tools with the new Nokia CK-7W handsfree kit.
I've read the user manual for the handfree kit and that refers to switching/transferring the call between the BT devices using the button. The unit clicks as if there's something happening, but no call is heard, the unit works perfectly with a BT phone connected both Nokia & Motorola.

I would try uninstalling pocket BT tools - for using a headset it is of no additional value anyway. I do not have it installed and have never had any problems making or receiving calls with my SE HBH-30 headset.

Try using the earlier version of bluetooth tools, make sure you uninstall the version you have and also unbond/remove bluetooth pairings, rebond after successful install.

Pocket Bluetooth Tools is perfect! This is what I'm looking for, except I can't figure out how to listen to music thru my bluetooth headset.
Thanks for the great tool though, now I can make calls with my headset.

BRosenow said:
I would try uninstalling pocket BT tools - for using a headset it is of no additional value anyway. I do not have it installed and have never had any problems making or receiving calls with my SE HBH-30 headset.
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The BIG advantage is battery life and not having to re-enable the headset profile each time you switch on the phone! With both PBT and/or Profile not displayed, I also get more Today real estate to play with.
With BT on all the time, I'm lucky to get four hours usage out of my Xda II, with PBT turning it off after five minutes the time can go up to almost seven. Sure, there is a short lag between call coming in and the headset (HBH-65) ringing but I can live with that and it even works well with Pocket Zen Phone. I also like the last number redial facility it adds to my headset. PBT rocks!

I found one problem with this program. My device won't automatically turn off after installing this tool. The backlight turns off, but not the device after certain minutes set. Who do I report the problem too.

i have got this problem to carnt get the xda i to connect to my car blue tooth hands free kit it finds the kit but nothing gome on guy get ya thinking heads on n help :idea: to revolve this problem

i have got this problem to carnt get the xda i to connect to my car blue tooth hands free kit it finds the kit but nothing gome on guy get ya thinking heads on n help :idea: to revolve this problem

Hi everyone,
well, I got the same problem :x with my XDA2, also called Qtek 2020, and Nokia carkit 112. It just does'nt work, even with BT tools. But I wonder how you get the icon screen while connecting to your Nokia carkit...cause mine is going straight back to the "Bluetooth connected devices" screen. I only got the icon screen, enabling the profile selection, while connecting to my Nokia 6310i phone.
Let's hope that HTC is gonna come up with Handsfree profile soon...
Regards to all, special ones to our OZ friends!! Mates, I really enjoyed living in Sydney, even if Italy is quite convenient as well.
Chris

Bluetooth Carkit + TouchHD

Hi everybody!
I've used several Nokia Symbian devices before my TouchHD and I've always used them with onboard navigation together with a bluetooth carkit.
Nokia 6600 + Parrot CK3500
Nokia N80 + Parrot CK3500
Nokia N80 + Parrot LS3400GPS
The great thing of this combination was, that every voice command from my navi software was transmitted over my car speakers and the radio was muted!
But with my Bury CC9060 and my TouchHD this great feature doesn't work!
1. Is there a special bluetooth protocoll needed?
2. How can I make sure wether it is the blackstones or the carkits fault, that I don't get voice commands over the car speakers?
3. When I start the MP3 Player in Manila the bluetooth carkit also keeps silent.

Nobody? Here are so many WM experts. Someone must have an answer!

Hello
What version of software are you running in the cc9060?
The latest is v1.74 and this works well with the Touch HD, all contacts are there only battery power level is not working on mine.
The problem you have might be that the car kit connects by default on A2DP and trys to output sat-nav and music via this, if you do not have the cc9060 connected to a aux input you will not hear the audio.
To get around this you can always disconnect the A2DP in the options of the phone ,Comm manager>Settings>Bluetooth>cc9060> then untick wireless stereo
then audio will come out of phones loudspeaker
I have my Touch HD and cc9060 connected to my Focus aux-in and use it as music player while running TomTom, the phone then overlays sat-nav directions over playing music they work well together, the touch screen music controls work well with manillla player and allow control of music without interupting tomtom
If you need to update cc9060 you can get new software from bury's website at
http://www.bury.com/en/hands-free-car-kits/system-bt-bluetooth-systems/cc-9060/software.html
hope this helps

CC9060 Software is already the latest: 1.74
I found these checked bluetooth options:
Wireless Stereo
Hands Free
I'll give that a try and uncheck Wireless Stereo!
Do you already know, that bury will release an actice cradle for the Touch HD in June/July 2009! Then I am able to load the battery while driving.

Update:
With unchecking bluetooth stereo, the navi software uses the phone speakers, whereas it is connected to the CC9060.
But there are still two disadvantages:
- Radio ist not muted when a call comes in.
- Not as loud as the car speakers
I've written to bury and they've answered me the same:
The device must be connected to AUX to hear something over the car speakers.
One question is still unanswered:
What is the reason, that Nokia devices where able to transmit the navigation commnands over the car speakers?
Bury mentioned, that the handy must support this!

Hi Pal
I have the parrot Ck3100 and it would play the sat-nav commands via the stereo speakers with my N95 but won't with the Blackstone. So it must be WM or the Touch HD that is not sending commands to the carkit. I also noticed that with my N95 when I got a text the sms alert was played through the car speakers the touch Hd does not do this.
Hope that helps and if you find a solution I would love to know.
Sully

Damn! Is it the handy operating system or the handy-brand?
As you mentioned already your symbian device is doing it right. But the WM6.1 device fails!
Maybe I should test it with the new omnia HD (also symbian OS) if it works!

Please report back if you find ourt anything more, I am sure it must be possible maybe with a reg tweak.
Sully

At the moment I don't see any possibilities to get that to work.
The manufacturer of the my new bluetooth car kit (bury) said, that it is very seldom, that a mobile phone sends navigation commands to the carkit. They are also not testing this feature, when they are adding a mobile phone to their supported phones list.
Should't a carkit in handsfree mode work as a headset?
Even Parrot was unable to say which device is generally sending every sound to the their carkit. But they said, that their carkit is reacting on EVERY activity from the mobile phone, when it is in handsfree mode.
We need more feedback from carkit / navigations users to finde the weak point!

Hi Pal
Just been reading about vjvolubilis and btmusic and some diamond users have managed to make it work. I have just installed it and will try it out on the way home tonight.
Sully

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Hi Pal
vjvolubilis and btmusic
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So those are the right apps? Are they free and maybe also available here?
I could test them, too.

they are free to use, i had some success with vjvoubilis. it worked but kept muting the stereo even though there were no commands from tomtom. for btmusic you need .net
sully

btmusic wants to have 2.0. But in my Rom .net 3.5 is already included. Does it work with you?
EDIT: After installing v2.0 via activesync btmusic starts but then a message "license expired 01/09/2008" appears.

I had to download .net 2 to make it work, the phone still works fine after installing version 2 and I am running duttys 2.7rom. Link for .net2 found on this page under requirments http://maxmobilesoft.com/index.php/software/btmusic
Sully

I thought in v3.5 v2 is icluded.
Get it to work now, too. But:
How did you solve the license expired message? Setting back the system language is starting the programm but not a solution for always.

use the link I provided above, you have to register to download but that version doesn't have licence problem.
Sully

Thanks a lot, but I've registered now, too. The app works.
But I am to tired to walk down to the car and test it. Maybe in a few hours after sleeping for a while.

go to sleep man and check it in the morning, there is no rush.
Sully

i cant get my hd to work with my intergrated bluetooth either.
i have tried software call JETware, that many people talk about... still my phone will not ask for the pairing passcode(password or key).
Any help would be great.
thanks

btmusic didn't solve my problem.
Igo8 did not talk to me via bluetooth and the manila music player, too.

Bluetooth / phone / speakerphone switch

Hi all
does anyone know if there is a app that while in bluetooth sync mode with a bluetooth handsfree device could launch a switch when a incomming call comes in to give the option to select the call by bluetooth or phone or phones speakerphone? i saw this option on a iphone. if this app is not available could some maybe create one? this would be a great function for windows mobile device. i do know that there is a option after you answer the call to turn off the bluetooth but its in the menu option and not as accessable...
thanks for you help..
J

It should work simply like this on WM phones (at least on all the WM phones I have). When a call comes in:
1. If you press talk button on your Bluetooth handsfree, the call should get picked up through the handsfree.
2. If you answer the call on the phone by pressing either software or hardware button, the call is picked up on the phone.

Thank you for your reply i just have another question
will that be the same for if the phone was synced to a car bluetooth kit as well? i just want to know if so as maybe the rom i have has problems doing this...
I tried to do what is posted and it did not work for the car i answered from the hardware keys as well as the software keys and still picked up in the car. i jave to click menu then turn off hands free. is there some other option i need to select in some settings to change the way the hands free works? I will try with a blue tooth ear piece to see if there is a difference..
In looking more into this there are 2 profiles 1 is headset and the other is handsfree i believe ear pieces use the headset profile and car kits use handsfree profile i did check the earpiece and it worked as described above does anyone know how to change the handset profile? is this a reg setting or can someone tell me how these profiles are stored in winmo 6.5?

BMW BT handsfree broken

Hi,
Received my HD2 a few days ago and had no problem making calls with the OEM BT Handsfree of my 2009 3-serie BMW.
Until I discovered that I coudn't use it to receive calls !
The HF picks-up the call OK via the iDrive or steering wheel button, but audio is dead. Both parties can's hear anything.
It's actually possible to make it work two ways: first, by answering the call via the phone button instead of the car's one, or second, by answering with the steering button or iDrive having no audio first, then by going to the phone and disconnect and reconnect the Handsfree via the phone menu and at that point the audio comes back working ok.
It is a real disapointment as my previous Diamond touch was working flawlessly in the same car.
Not to mention that it pretty useless like that because of the danger implied by trying to rush to the phone in a deap pocket or in the arm's rest compartment to push the answer key.
I hope HTC will fix that soon as it pretty useless for guys like me, working 2h of their day in the car. It seems they changed from a MS BT stack to a Widcomm, loosing compatibility in the process...
Anyone experienced the same yet ?
Yves.

Yes, i have similar problem with my BWM X5 Bluetooth.
When i am on call and same time put they key can't hear nothing from phone and from hands free. Same is if go out from the car and have call in same moment.
With my previos phone HTC HD - all working great.

Ok, thanks for the reply.
I really think it is due to the change of BT stack.
BTW, did you file a ticket to HTC support ?
I did yesterday, obviously no answer yet but could you do it too ?
The more we are, better are the chances that they do something for the next rom.

Hello,
here is my issue with the BT connection: I have a Pioneer F900BT unit in my car. With my previous Nokia E66 everything worked just fine.
Now, when connecting with HD2, conection works ok, phonebook is downloaded ok, BUT: when there is a call, the music in the car is not silented automatically; what's worse, it seems the phone doesn't send any call identification to the headunit, since all the history (outgoing, incoming calls) is empty. So, I cannot redial or see who's calling me.
I did try the fix in the registry described earlier on this thread, but it doesn't help.
Any idea?
Thank you.

I have a 2008 3 series and have no problems at all, connected first time and has worked flawlessly ever since

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I have a 2008 3 series and have no problems at all, connected first time and has worked flawlessly ever since
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Same here with an e92 (08/2008).

HD2 and Nokia bluetooth car kit

I've got a Nokia bluetooth car kit (CK-7W) and while this worked perfectly with my N95 (obviously) and works for incoming calls on the HD2 there's one problem with using it for outgoing calls.
To make a call with the Nokia you hold down the button on the car kit for a second and then this triggered voice dialling. However, holding down the button while connected to the HD2 mutes the stereo and then just seems like it's trying to do something then goes back to stereo again. Now I'm presuming that as the HD2 doesn't come with voice dialling (why oh why?) there's no button for the hands free kit button to map to.
I've installed Cyberon but as this still doesn't work off a button press it also doesn't work.
What I'm wondering is, is there any way to map Cyberon (or whatever other voice dialer you use) to a button and then get that button to be picked up by the Nokia car kit?
Not hopeful but as being able to make calls hands free is generally the point of a hands free kit, any help would be appreciated.

Any solution?
mbuckley said:
I've got a Nokia bluetooth car kit (CK-7W) and while this worked perfectly with my N95 (obviously) and works for incoming calls on the HD2 there's one problem with using it for outgoing calls....
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Did you find any solution to this issue? I facing the same.

I am in the same boat, anyone help please? All I want it to do is play and receive audio through the car kit
thanks
D

I have the same kit and have found the following:
1. If you receive an incoming call and press the Nokia Car Kit button it answers the phone and the call comes through the kit speakers.
2. If you answer an incoming call with the phone handset rather than the car kit button the phone answers but the sound comes from the phone rather than the car speakers.
3. If you try to initaite a call be pressing the car kit button the HD2 doesn't understand whats going on and sits there waiting for a timeout.
4. If you initiate a call through the phone (in a cradle to maintain hands-free laws) then the phone dials and then switches on the car kit so that the call comes through the car speakers.
I had to do this with my Orbit II since I never got round to using voice tags for pressing the Nokia button.

nyopa said:
I am in the same boat, anyone help please? All I want it to do is play and receive audio through the car kit
thanks
D
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I was always under the impression that the Nokia CK-7W does not support A2DP.
This feature only really came out in the later models such as Ck-20, ck-100 etc.
Do bear in mind that ck-7w is approximately 5-6 years old. I am not even sure waht bluetooth revision and call handling firmware is running in the hf-5 module box.
I do know that people started to have problems with ck-7w with the newer series of phones so most of them upgraded their kits.
If you do look for an upgrade option, you may wish to check out parrot ck 3100.
A lot of our customers have used these with no problem, and those that did have a minor problem went to parrot support and bluetoothed the newer firmware to the kit to resolve it.
I do not work for Parrot in anyway. These are just my personal findings organising car kit installations for various corporate customers.

I have a CK-7W and it works fine with MS Voice Command
HTH

I've got an HTC HD2 from my Company. Now i wanted to connect it to my Nokia CK-7W installed in my car. The problem is, that the phone does not find the Carkit!
Does anybody know a solution?
Thanks!