I'd love to know what is the best of the best . . .
have use the O2, Qtek and Dopod but not on the same versions but I would say that Dopod's latest version works really well for me.
could you te me why?
I switched from T Mob Bloat Rom to the Qtek one.
I'd be interested to hear why you think it is so good.
Anyone else got a fave??
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I have been using an O2 Rom from the beginning of the year, and it is so very slow.
So I am rather keen to know what would be the best upgrade too.. Cheers!
looking in the other forum it looks like the dopod is quite good - again no friggin idea why!!!!
well for starters, they do not install a lot of aditional items. The only item installed is Voice Commander and that also is removable. In fact, when you do a hard reset and let the configuration run, you get almost 39mb of ROM space which is a lot in my opinion. Uninstall the Voice Commander and you get some more if you want to. There aren't even any additional themes like those installed on the iMate.
pretty kool - isn't voice commander any good then?
well its not too bad. supposed it can read your unread sms but i have yet to test it out.
though some like microsoft voice command as it announces who is calling.
i guess at the end of the day, it depends on what you need.
From my point of view, Qtek-9000 rom (whitout ext rom loaded) is the best one. It's light-weight, compact and fast enough than others. With some registry/memory tweaks, this is the fastest rom i ever used.
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From my point of view, Qtek-9000 rom (whitout ext rom loaded) is the best one. It's light-weight, compact and fast enough than others. With some registry/memory tweaks, this is the fastest rom i ever used.
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could you share with us what are the tweaks that you used?
Find the CAB attached. A restart is required after the installation.
The tweaks included in the CAB is mostly collected from the internet. But carefully tuned to get the best performance from Qtek-9000 (ROM). Universal has only 64mb RAM so that I tuned the registry to balance max free memory and best performance.
You will have an option (Settings>System>Power) in the processor tab to set the speed either Standard or Turbooooooooooooooo!
Turbo provides more processing speed but drains your battery toooooooooo!
Enjoy! :lol:
what does turbo mode do ??? it does not change cpu speed, so , what does it do '???
thanks
And please do post a list of the tweaks you have in the cab. I thought I could choose which ones to run but I guess not.
If I uninstall your cab with it revert to the previous registry entries?
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what does turbo mode do ??? it does not change cpu speed, so , what does it do '???
thanks
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The Standard behavior of the XScale processor is to run in dynamic mode, which means CPU usually tooks less power and switched in hi power mode only when an application asked it. But in Turbo mode, it runs in hi-power mode always and as a result you are getting better performance.
Ranju: is it for T-mobile only? I tried to install it (Qtek 9000) but it was neglected. (can't install it). Can the tweaks be manually done? If so: what are they?
ok but that implies changing the cpu speed and that isn't happening
Had to restore my backup... I removed the cab, which didn't unistall it completely. Tried to run it again and it wouldn't install (because it never removed the files it put in during the 1st install).
I like what you did, and I would kill to have a UI to pick and choose the changes I want applied. Right now there's not even a list of what's in there, which is why I tried to remove it in the first place.
It's a nice enough idea though.
ok ,it does not change the speed but picodrive runs MUCH smother !! i'll try to do this "feature" with XCPUScalar2006_v2.98 so i can use "speedstep" to save battery
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Needs some benchmarking, but feels faster after visiting this http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39099&highlight=
How did u enable it in your compact??? I created the registry key HKLM-Software-HTC-Power and the dword value ProcessorPageFlag as requested, but my Power screen still doesn't show any Processor page!!!
Maybe i'd have to copy power.exe and powerstateon.exe in my \windows folder?
PLS help.
Bye
I ran the power.exe that's included in the zipfile. The original Magician power.exe doesn't contain the power tab. As it runs perfectly from every location I stored it under \Storage\Power\Power.exe. Don't want to overwrite the original power.exe.
Regards, M
Did you try it with a benchmark, like SPB Benchmark?
Not yet, first have to download it...
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I ran the power.exe that's included in the zipfile. The original Magician power.exe doesn't contain the power tab. As it runs perfectly from every location I stored it under \Storage\Power\Power.exe. Don't want to overwrite the original power.exe.
Regards, M
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Which file(s) should I put on \windows\ if I want to replace power.exe?
As long as no harm, I will keep the mods power.exe
Thx.
Regards,
Arto.
No, it seems to be not working on oures PXA 272 , may be for PXA270 is good,, like XGuru 1.00 also not working on magician!
Maybe it's an impression, but i see my ppc faster!
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No, it seems to be not working on oures PXA 272 , may be for PXA270 is good,, like XGuru 1.00 also not working on magician!
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I got a PXA272 & it seems to be working. Signed up for SPB Benchmark yesterday, still no sign of download instructions :-( something must have gone wrong.
I gave it a shot.. did not notice any improvments at all... :?
1 day already....
Feel no speed improvement on O2 XDA II mini. Even I try to create small iteration program to count up to 10000, Turbo mode give me longer time ==> slow down.
Too bad, at the end of today I will remove it .
Regards,
Arto.
So that's maybe why it feels smoother. Scrolling etc looks nicer with it. Hope to benchmark today, if slower the thread title will be cganged as well...
Regards, M
Seems to run the programs a bit faster. However I don't have time to benchmark it...
Downloading the benchmark at the moment....
TCPMP has test . I`ve checked it out, no difference
Done two SPB benchmarks yesterday evening & damn a magician is slow ;-). It took 3 hours for two tests which claim to be a 30min test each. Must say I did it on my fully loaded magician to see what's the everyday real life gain/loss.
Today's program include three tests I think: without increased cache, without increased glyph's & plain WM2003SE after a hard reset. If the performance gain of my chances is significant I'll add a last test: plain WM2003SE with all my speed add-ons.
See you, M
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Done two SPB benchmarks yesterday evening & damn a magician is slow ;-). It took 3 hours for two tests which claim to be a 30min test each. Must say I did it on my fully loaded magician to see what's the everyday real life gain/loss.
Today's program include three tests I think: without increased cache, without increased glyph's & plain WM2003SE after a hard reset. If the performance gain of my chances is significant I'll add a last test: plain WM2003SE with all my speed add-ons.
See you, M
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How? Any improvement seen?
I agree,
seems to work for me. Am seeing the windows wait symbols plenty less and operations feel smoother.
Thanx a mil for the installer. cab
Benchmark results probably inconclusive
Haven't fully analyzed the benchmark result, but first impression is that in some areas there are minor improvements. Others show a degradation.
Maybe I'll post tge first analysis today so you can decide for yourself, must say that the benchmark was run on my fully installed device. Haven't found the time last week to do it on a plain device.
Regards, M
Okay, finally figured out how to run this app in my mini. After which I see a very slight improvement in speed during launching of an application.
It's most noticeable when I run Skype with other stuff already loaded in memory. Also, I'm seeing less of the "hour glass" icon...hmmm. More testing.
hello there :lol:
i removed practically everything that i could remove from the ram , as well as the extended rom , i also removed memory indicators from today screen, and disabled error reporting.
i noticed A LOT of useless stuff in the windows folder , unremovable offcourse , (like a 4mb lost in 2 themes files ) .
also i noticed that u cannot reallocate ram (storage/program) memory through the elegent slider that was there before.
yet the major crisis in this device is the lack of a backup utility ... I desperatly need help about this , i couldnt find any third party software to backup system.
Is there any way to enable removing of unnecessary files in windows folder :?:
Device is still crowling ... PLease help ...
hard reset and don't install the customizations
look at the wiki, there's a lot of hacks to make you're jasjar run faster
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look at the wiki, there's a lot of hacks to make you're jasjar run faster
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I'm sure I am just missing them, but where are the hacks you mention that address speed on the Wiki? I am familiar with, and have used several of the ones there (i.e. MS Voice Command via Bluetooth Headset).
I'm just not seeing anything addressing the disappointngly slow speed of my Qtek 9000.
The Universal will never run as fast as you'd expect a 520Mhz device to run as the flash memory limits the speed (and the screen rendering will also slow down the device). You know my old Gateway PC from 1996 (200Mhz and 64MB RAM) was very impressive compared to my Universal when you look at the Universal's hardware!
upgrade to the beta release from imate, its fast
wiki registry backs to the menus etc will speed it up, better memory storage etc
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Registry
a bit old but
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31697
If speed is your beef, go the upgrade, its beta, but faster
still
i did the upgradde , and did not install the customizations , applied all the hacks , and it s still slow :x , the change was too little to b noticed ...
my goodness , what to do ... ?
p.S: what is the flash memory ???
there is no way it can be slow after that upgrade
everybody says its way fast, not just me
what extra software are you running? Was it slow prior to additional software?
SPB?
I find Jasjar slow too. Especially coming from XDA O2 IIi, it's much faster IMO. I considered myself to be very fast with PDA. But now, I have to wait for a few second before I could proceed to the next task.
We use the Universal for speech systems for people with disabilities. However the speed of the device is marginal for us, because the system itself uses a massive (30%+) fraction of the processor time even when the system is at idle.
I've just been asked if using any alternate ROM images might help speed the device up much, and I haven't got a clue. Help!
Does anyone know if any of the ROM images that are out there makes a significant difference to the speed of the universal? Is there a ROM image around which completely removes all phone functionality (not all our users use the phone)?
I'd be very grateful for any guidance, before we start trying ROM images at random...
Stuart
Hello, first of all, -and I'm not sure about this- I think that the ROMs images are not available at this site's FTP anymore.
Then, if you can have a ROM, prefer the "plain vanilla" ones, unless you might need several extra programs, if you need speed, you need a light and simple ROM, there are several of them, from Helmi's, to Ivan's and others that I just can't remember now, look out in the posts and find a stable one to use, test it with your app until you think is the right one.
Alternatively you can increase your CPU's clock, but this drains the battery faster, a solution for this might be to install a larger battery, your use of the uni might permit all of these things.
I haven't tested any custom ROMs, but I have a friend with a uni that has installed in its uni a Helmi's ROM, I saw it, it seems quite speedier than my T-mobile one, he told me that the voice tags call fuction didn't work and something else, but, was it faster indeed.
bye
stuartaw said:
We use the Universal for speech systems for people with disabilities. However the speed of the device is marginal for us, because the system itself uses a massive (30%+) fraction of the processor time even when the system is at idle.
I've just been asked if using any alternate ROM images might help speed the device up much, and I haven't got a clue. Help!
Does anyone know if any of the ROM images that are out there makes a significant difference to the speed of the universal? Is there a ROM image around which completely removes all phone functionality (not all our users use the phone)?
I'd be very grateful for any guidance, before we start trying ROM images at random...
Stuart
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have you tried to kill useless proggy at startup???
if you want i may be able to make a clean rom for you...
actually try increasing the pagingpool a simple hexedit on existing roms (wm6 section of this forum look for helmi's kitchen)
Thanks for the suggestions so far.
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have you tried to kill useless proggy at startup???
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I've tried killing everything I can. The processor is occupied by one thread within devices.exe; and I can't really kill that process... Everything else had minimal/no impact.
Stuart
What application are you using to identify process usage? 30% sounds very high to me.
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What application are you using to identify process usage? 30% sounds very high to me.
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The remote tools in Visual Studio. Shows 1%-4% processor usage at idle for other PDAs, 30-35% for TyTN and Universal (the only 2 HTC machines I had access to). I used the kernel tracker thing to track execution, and it was one particular thread in devices.exe which was both busy, and also, sometimes, thrashing around at <100 micro-s frequency.
This figure does fit with our other experiences. The particular speed problem we have is with a library which is spec-ed to work on any machine with 400Mhz+ processor. Works fine on other machines, including some quite old PDAs, but has 'issues' due to slow processor on the Universal and is simply unusable on the TyTN.
I couldn't find anything I could do to improve this in RAM - and a colleague asked if any of the alternate ROMs might help - and I've haven't got a clue, but hoped someone might know if any of the ROMs are visibly faster.
Stuart
Have you tried changing the default clock speed?
Hi Stuart,
I think there are a lot of applications out there which allow you to overclock and change the clock speed of Xscale CPU's. Things like XCPUScalar 2007. If you look at this thread(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304786)you should be able to find some useful information regarding scaling the CPU speed, hope this helps.
Will.
currently i have a t-mo wing that has no other modifications done on it other than a sliding tone change.
so my situation is that i have a NES emulator and i have a GBC emulator, and skype mobile all on my phone (saved and installed on the 2gb storage card).
the biggest issue is that i am running into issue when im trying to use both the internet explorer and skype, or an emulator and windows media player, or some varient of that, the phone will run out of memory, and automatically shut down the application that is on hold. also, if im trying to watch a converted vid in windows media player, the more apps running, the slower the video.
now from what i understand about desktop and laptop computers is that this to me would indicate that im running low on RAM. i understand that a PPC isnt designed to do exactly what im trying to do, but what im wondering is how can i increase the amount of system ram at any one time so that the PPC wont shut down one of the running apps, or so that i can just watch a converted video better?
would overclocking my phone a little make things run better? or is this a case where i should change the pagepool size? or what other option do i have to give my self more system memory?
Change the pagepool to 6mb. Kill the My5 and Live start up processes.
I would just change to another better ROM.
interesting...
i had a feeling that the pagepool would make a difference. couple of quick things though, i understand that a guide can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313263&highlight=pagepool to change the page pool size BUT (and this is the newb part) my phone wasnt set up for my5 (i stuck with an existing plan, and didnt go my 5) and im sure that the app is/may still be on there and still starting, but im not sure how to stop/end the process of the my5 and the live, and also, what rom do you recommend... 200 some odd posts, you obviously know something.
lol. Thanks. I didn't even realize that I had gone past the 150 post count.
This is an excelent one. It's based on This puppy, which is also excelent. Here's one of his older ones. Also an excelent one.
Try the first one, first.
Alternatively, you can wait (or upgrade AND wait) for me to release my newest kitchen and then MAKE your own ROM (based on the same base ROM as all these guys.)
and for the p4350 ? I think thats the keyboard is different, whats the fastest and stable rom ? Thanks
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and for the p4350 ? I think thats the keyboard is different, whats the fastest and stable rom ? Thanks
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Dunno. I don't have a P4350. Try some out and see which one works best for you.
Hello all TD2 users. After trying countless roms, cabs, settings, tweaks and all, reading information about the hardware in the phone i really don't understand:
Why is the phone so slow?
What i mean:
1. The stock rom is a nightmare to use, it lags, all the fancy animations are actualy made for the HD2: 2x faster phone than our. Custom roms are better optimised but even than it's a choppy feeling.
2. The qualcomm 528mhz processor is not the slowest one, BUT, it cannot keep up with the software. Even overclocked to 710mhz, stable, the phone is not fluent by a long run.
3. The Adreno 130 GPU ? What actually does it do ? Is the Sence UI using the GPU, only the GPU or it's mixed ? Overclocking the Processor don't speed up the animations and the transition between tabs. So i guess the GPU is the only power you need to run the UI ?
4. If the GPU is slow, why actualy do HTC put a 800x480 screen. The WildFire has a resolution 3x smaller and a 2x faster GPU (adreno 200) and a better CPU too.
I really don't get it. Is it all software related, or the Diamond 2 is a total hardware and software mess, just put what we have to date (year 2009) and go for it.
Can someone inform me about some of the points. I have real interest in knowing the phone.
Thanks.
I never had issues on this device.
I agree the stock ROM is disastrous, but I have ran some cooked ROMs that performed quite well and never over clocked.
Also over clocking beyond a certain point will cause lags, as I'm sure you are aware. I thought it was around 648 where it starts.
A task killer is essential so you do not have too many apps running simultaneously.
Too many apps installed can degrade the speed as well.
I do not think it is necessarily hardware limitations.
A couple of pointers would be to either flash back to stock or perform a MTTY Task 29 in between flashing ROMs, soft reset occasionally to keep cache clear and do not install crucial apps to the SD card.
I completely agree with Bruce.
I never seen any performance issue with the device even when I was using the Stock ROM or my OWN Cooked Rom, which I feel much more better for my device.
- You will need to make sure you are not overloading apps that are keep running in background.
- Do use any good task manager. I USE and suggest ArkSwitch.
- Avoid Manila Mods that kill performance. Alway try to stick to simple Manila (like the default that comes with device/rom) .
- Avoid big wallpapers.
etc are some of the basic tips that I can suggest .
Thanks.
Actually the latest Rom from Prabhat, Photon 1.4 is showing me that the device can actually be faster than i thought. I just have one concern. I have enabled location settings in the manila panel, so i received the Weather forecast with animation and icon on the Clock.
Now the animation kills the home screen, it's choppy and with it the whole home tab. Even after setting up a wallpaper with no animation / weather or any other, only the fact that i have the weather icon on my Clock slows down the Home Tab.
I don't think that it's only me, seeing bad performance with the weather thing.
I actually needed to hard reset the phone, to have that animation and weather icon off. It's good that this isn't working directly with first boot up and you need to set it up (at least with me) so i can enjoy a seamless Home Tab navigation. Where is the point of having something designed for other, faster platform, working rather bad on our older Diamond 2 ?
some tips to make your device faster:
disable that crapy htc sence. it will save more than 50MB or ram. use instead that titanium, iphonetoday or simple plain today screen.
use mmAppLauncher, it will save you ~20MB of ram.
In total, at cold start you will have ~120MB free, after one day usage - about 110.
ofcourse, battery last longer.
stock 2.53.479.3 wwe rom
I have the same problem with the phone and have downloaded no apps or anything in the 12 months I've had it. Goes really slow, freezes frequently. Working my way through all these threads to try and figure out how to make the thing just work. Will be trying some of the suggestions above.
One thing that I have seen slow these phones down is excessive amounts of saved texts. You may want to clear as many as you can out and see if that helps.
I have the same problem .I've try all ROM's ,official and cooked,but nothing.After 2-3 days ,topaz need to be hard reseted.I try to do not install any apps and nothing maybe i increase the days to a week.I try also android but it's slow too.The only ROM that i like how it's working it's from O2 XDA,but it's with the old one htc sence and it's German.actually the only problem is the sence.
I've try all king of setting,regs and everything else.PLS help need-fast,stable and clean rom-only with sence
Hi , i am using topaz and it works pretty good , reinstall windows after 1moth use, but if you compare it with android its very slow , so try android if you want more speed
The only time when i Hard-reset is when i flash the new Energy Rom's.
They are not sluggish en work very well.
As NRGZ28 says:
I build my ROMs with four main goals.
Eye candy ( I want my ROM to look great and for it to all flow together nicely)
Speed !!!
Smoothness, consistency and good aesthetics
Stability through private beta testing before public release
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I have a new Diamond 2 and all good and fast response for me
Also I have also installed ArkSwitch as suggested above and this is a good task manager I think.
Using WM6.1 with a tweaked rom and no Manila its running fast enough for me.
I also installed Stop PushInternet for real to save another 9.5 MB of memory
Nice post. Thanks for the pointer.
I will check the registry of my ROM to see if I need that cab