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9 mnths on what is the definitive best ROM out there guys?!

I'd love to know what is the best of the best . . .

have use the O2, Qtek and Dopod but not on the same versions but I would say that Dopod's latest version works really well for me.

could you te me why?
I switched from T Mob Bloat Rom to the Qtek one.
I'd be interested to hear why you think it is so good.
Anyone else got a fave??
lr

I have been using an O2 Rom from the beginning of the year, and it is so very slow.
So I am rather keen to know what would be the best upgrade too.. Cheers!

looking in the other forum it looks like the dopod is quite good - again no friggin idea why!!!!

well for starters, they do not install a lot of aditional items. The only item installed is Voice Commander and that also is removable. In fact, when you do a hard reset and let the configuration run, you get almost 39mb of ROM space which is a lot in my opinion. Uninstall the Voice Commander and you get some more if you want to. There aren't even any additional themes like those installed on the iMate.

pretty kool - isn't voice commander any good then?

well its not too bad. supposed it can read your unread sms but i have yet to test it out.
though some like microsoft voice command as it announces who is calling.
i guess at the end of the day, it depends on what you need.

From my point of view, Qtek-9000 rom (whitout ext rom loaded) is the best one. It's light-weight, compact and fast enough than others. With some registry/memory tweaks, this is the fastest rom i ever used.

ranju said:
From my point of view, Qtek-9000 rom (whitout ext rom loaded) is the best one. It's light-weight, compact and fast enough than others. With some registry/memory tweaks, this is the fastest rom i ever used.
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could you share with us what are the tweaks that you used?

Find the CAB attached. A restart is required after the installation.
The tweaks included in the CAB is mostly collected from the internet. But carefully tuned to get the best performance from Qtek-9000 (ROM). Universal has only 64mb RAM so that I tuned the registry to balance max free memory and best performance.
You will have an option (Settings>System>Power) in the processor tab to set the speed either Standard or Turbooooooooooooooo!
Turbo provides more processing speed but drains your battery toooooooooo!
Enjoy! :lol:

what does turbo mode do ??? it does not change cpu speed, so , what does it do '???
thanks

And please do post a list of the tweaks you have in the cab. I thought I could choose which ones to run but I guess not.
If I uninstall your cab with it revert to the previous registry entries?

adolfotregosa said:
what does turbo mode do ??? it does not change cpu speed, so , what does it do '???
thanks
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The Standard behavior of the XScale processor is to run in dynamic mode, which means CPU usually tooks less power and switched in hi power mode only when an application asked it. But in Turbo mode, it runs in hi-power mode always and as a result you are getting better performance.

Ranju: is it for T-mobile only? I tried to install it (Qtek 9000) but it was neglected. (can't install it). Can the tweaks be manually done? If so: what are they?

ok but that implies changing the cpu speed and that isn't happening

Had to restore my backup... I removed the cab, which didn't unistall it completely. Tried to run it again and it wouldn't install (because it never removed the files it put in during the 1st install).
I like what you did, and I would kill to have a UI to pick and choose the changes I want applied. Right now there's not even a list of what's in there, which is why I tried to remove it in the first place.
It's a nice enough idea though.

ok ,it does not change the speed but picodrive runs MUCH smother !! i'll try to do this "feature" with XCPUScalar2006_v2.98 so i can use "speedstep" to save battery

Thanks to everyone on this site!

Hello! Me and a friend of mine just purchased the tmobile wings....i upgraded from the dash and him from the horrible SDA....well so far this is what we have done.
HTC Homescreen plugin + homescreen edit
Slide to UL (AC)
Iphone Window Theme
HTC Audiomanager
P Browser
TCPMP + Flash Video Software that allows utube among other sites -=)
Changed sliding keyboard sounds
Vtap (also allows utube, but tcpmp is the shat)
PSShtuXP
Icontacts
Pocket CM ( I don't have this anymore)
Overclocked to 247MHZ (not really sure what overclocking is, but hey most of you on here have done it, so why not)
We have both kept WM6 because it seems like Touch Flo still has editing, and i am attached to the microsoft voice sync program.
So all in all just making myself known on the forum, thanks again for turning my wing not only into a greater phone but now I want to call this isht a Tmobile Jet Wing.
I still don't understand some terms, don't know what flashing is, and wanted to know what other programs we could add to make our device function even better.
Is there a way to upgrade device storage? It seems to be my only concern. Thanks again.
Batman
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TMO WING WM6 + Upgrades
NOW MY OWN TMO JET WING

Awesome. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask ... but please be sure to look through the forums first in order to answer most of your questions.
Flashing is installing a new operating system on your phone ... so think of it like taking Windows XP off of your computer, and installing Windows VISTA on your computer.
You should run the Quick Page Pool changer to get more device storage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324955

Cool, i try to read as much info as possible before posting...so yeah ive read the newb's guide and all the links within...thanks i will try to pagepool again...lastime didn't work...but ill try hopefully this is a better file.

directions are sort of...or reall fuzzy for installation..so i am really confused...any other helpful links on this?

all you have to do ....
-connect your phone via activesync
-copy the EnableRapi.cab file over to your phone
-thru your phone's file explorer, find the EnableRap.cab file, and run it.
-SOFT RESET
-connect your phone to activesync again, and run the batch file for the pagepool size you want to have (4, 6, 8, etc...)
-Reset again
and voila, you should have the new pagepool settings now.

think i did it lol.....how much space should i have?

Stock memory settings were the following on my Wing
Storage
39.44
8.09
31.35
Program
43.87
32.20
11.67

duprade said:
Stock memory settings were the following on my Wing
Storage
39.44
8.09
31.35
Program
43.87
32.20
11.67
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11.6 MB free RAM after page pool fix??? that's way too low buddy. which page pool setting are u using? 4,6,or 8? but then again, is that on idle, or did you were running some other application on the background?
I remembered when i first found out about the pagepool fix, I was able to get 21 MB free ram on start up and running around 18-19 on idle. (i was running the 6 MB pool setup)
Now, i flashed my wing with Touch IT ROM v2.3 and i get 25 MB free RAM at start up and 20-22 on idle.

as I wrote on there .. those the STOCK memory settings ... meaning from a factory wing.
So obviously, you look at the stock settings, and compare them to the settings you see after running the pagepool app.

HELP! new to site and want to adjust phone

I am not sure if this is the proper section for such advice but I am seeking help with my t mobile wing which I believe is considered part of the herald? heh..
So here's the deal..I had this phone for a year now with no custom addons to it..but lately...my wing has been running so slow up to the point where I can't answer calls on time or takes so long to load..I just rebooted my phone and was wondering if anyone in steps can direct me anything I can do to make my phone run more smooth,customizable and being able to clean it properly..
I used to have battery status with the overclock on MHZ and memmaid..but I realized mem maid was a paid program so I was shady about putting my credit card... I also was trying to get touch flo installed..but I can't find the Ruu anywhere..I must be doing something wrong lol

layl0ww said:
I am not sure if this is the proper section for such advice but I am seeking help with my t mobile wing which I believe is considered part of the herald? heh..
So here's the deal..I had this phone for a year now with no custom addons to it..but lately...my wing has been running so slow up to the point where I can't answer calls on time or takes so long to load..I just rebooted my phone and was wondering if anyone in steps can direct me anything I can do to make my phone run more smooth,customizable and being able to clean it properly..
I used to have battery status with the overclock on MHZ and memmaid..but I realized mem maid was a paid program so I was shady about putting my credit card... I also was trying to get touch flo installed..but I can't find the Ruu anywhere..I must be doing something wrong lol
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First things first, some things you'll need to know:
RUU: Stock Operating System (ROM)
ROM: Phone Operating System
CAB: Application Installer File
Flash: Reformat your phone with a new ROM.
SuperCID: Unlocks the device to allow flashing of non-stock and custom ROMs.
USPL: Allows you to temporary SuperCID your device to enable flashing using a Flash Center Utility in Windows. You cannot use LZX compressed ROMs, and you cannot flash ROMs requiring an SD Card.
HardSPL: Permanently (Well Almost) SuperCIDs your device to allow you to flash any ROM of any type, as long as it is a Herald/Wing ROM. You can flash using SD card, or through a Flash Center. I say it is almost permanent because it can be reversed.
Next:
I suggest you use a whole new ROM on your phone. T-Mobile's stock ROM is so bogged down with useless crap it takes forever to do anything. Plus, most custom ROMs already come with at least TouchFlo kinetic scrolling.
You are going to need to backup your Contacts, Photos, etc. You can do this manually, or you can use Microsoft MyPhone to do this automatically.
Next you are going to need to flash your device with a ROM, but first you have to find a ROM.
http://thewingster.com/ivanmmj.aspx
If you go there you can find screenshots of two ROMs I suggest you try first. JustStable is a stable ROM based off of Windows Mobile 6.1. It's pretty fast, but its more of a simple kind of ROM without the flashy features. JustHome is a ROM based off of Windows Mobile 6.5. It is what I am currently using. The ROM is really good and it's got a lot of flashy stuff, and it is a lot more finger friendly.
Next you need to Flash your device: I suggest you use the USPL method for flashing because it poses less danger to your device. You can find steps for USPL flashing on this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3903811&postcount=2 .
After you flash: You may find that you are missing some T-Mobile things you used before like MMS, MyFaves on homescreen, or the T-Mobile IM client.
MMS: Ivan decided not to include MMS in his ROMs because some people complained they didn't work (SMS still works though). Don't worry, you can still get MMS to work. Follow these steps on this page: http://thewingster.com/arcsoftmms.aspx
MyFaves: Don't worry about missing the MyFaves, you will still get all calls to the 5 people free if they are on your list. You can change them on your my.t-mobile.com site.
T-Mobile IM: If you have a data plan, I wouldn't suggest you use this at all. If you don't have a data plan, T-Mobile IM is one of the few applications that can use AIM through SMS, so you don't have to pay extra (assuming you have unlimited text/picture messaging).
You can find other useful Cabs on the link in my signature.

First thing to do is use that search thingy at the top of your screen.

raptoro07 said:
First thing to do is use that search thingy at the top of your screen.
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And end up following a guide for another phone... Good idea, good way to brick his phone.

Heh yea I was up all night searching stuff since it does look a bit unorganized here with 07-08 material..but I think I figured out some of the basics, now if I change my rom..will that be a permanent change? I know windows is a terrible idea for the wing to begin with but I would like to mess around with a few in the future to my liking
I went and installed some cabs into my phone and I love it, I did some of the basic registry inputs as well and my phone is managing so smooth heh.
But I am still left with odd numbers compared to what other roms offered(maybe cause of windows?) I have 11.12 mb free in storage out of 31.44 20.32 in use and 49.89 total in program 38.01 in use and 11.88 free.. :s but thanks for the guide I am gonna keep searching around..I just need to finally buy myself a micro SD to help me move those roms over.

layl0ww said:
Heh yea I was up all night searching stuff since it does look a bit unorganized here with 07-08 material..but I think I figured out some of the basics, now if I change my rom..will that be a permanent change? I know windows is a terrible idea for the wing to begin with but I would like to mess around with a few in the future to my liking
I went and installed some cabs into my phone and I love it, I did some of the basic registry inputs as well and my phone is managing so smooth heh.
But I am still left with odd numbers compared to what other roms offered(maybe cause of windows?) I have 11.12 mb free in storage out of 31.44 20.32 in use and 49.89 total in program 38.01 in use and 11.88 free.. :s but thanks for the guide I am gonna keep searching around..I just need to finally buy myself a micro SD to help me move those roms over.
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If you want to go back to factory defaults, you would just flash the T-Mobile Stock ROM. You can either get that from T-Mobiles website or from here.
Your Program memory is essentially your RAM, and your Storage Memory is how much space you have left to install programs. 11.88 is not good at all for leftover RAM, and this number will not change by adding a storage card. JustStable gets about 24mb free RAM, JustHome gets around 17mb of free RAM...
All ROMs are based on Windows Mobile, including the current one. Some are just based on newer versions than others. The current one you are on is Windows Mobile 6.0. JustStable is based on Windows Mobile 6.1. JustHome is based on Windows Mobile 6.5. The reason you have low levels of Program memory and RAM are based on a few factors. T-Mobile overloads their ROMs with crap, most of which you probably don't use and it's all pretty out-dated. Also, any applications you may have installed thinking it will speed up the phone, just cost more space. And since a lot of applications won't run properly if you install them to a storage card, you have to limit your list of programs to the ones you use the most.
The cooked ROMs on these forums are just cleaned up versions of the same ROM you have on your phone now, so the applications you love on your phone now, you can install on a cooked ROMs. And the ones you don't use, you don't have to install. I can promise you, however, once you flash one of these stock ROMs, you won't ever want to go back.

if you haven't flashed a rom yet you can watch 1 on youtube before you attempt it. dangerous but well worth it. i'm running 6.5 and its spectacular. i'm still learning though.

apreichner said:
If you want to go back to factory defaults, you would just flash the T-Mobile Stock ROM. You can either get that from T-Mobiles website or from here.
Your Program memory is essentially your RAM, and your Storage Memory is how much space you have left to install programs. 11.88 is not good at all for leftover RAM, and this number will not change by adding a storage card. JustStable gets about 24mb free RAM, JustHome gets around 17mb of free RAM...
All ROMs are based on Windows Mobile, including the current one. Some are just based on newer versions than others. The current one you are on is Windows Mobile 6.0. JustStable is based on Windows Mobile 6.1. JustHome is based on Windows Mobile 6.5. The reason you have low levels of Program memory and RAM are based on a few factors. T-Mobile overloads their ROMs with crap, most of which you probably don't use and it's all pretty out-dated. Also, any applications you may have installed thinking it will speed up the phone, just cost more space. And since a lot of applications won't run properly if you install them to a storage card, you have to limit your list of programs to the ones you use the most.
The cooked ROMs on these forums are just cleaned up versions of the same ROM you have on your phone now, so the applications you love on your phone now, you can install on a cooked ROMs. And the ones you don't use, you don't have to install. I can promise you, however, once you flash one of these stock ROMs, you won't ever want to go back.
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So you would recommend getting juststable then? I probably won't get that till I get my micro sd ordered unless it can go in right now, now is there a limit to what I can get? I was hearing you can get 6gigs, but I am hearing 4 is the limit from sandisk, someone can confirm it? also...with the HTC skin, is there a way to adjust the weather temp from C to F instead?

layl0ww said:
So you would recommend getting juststable then? I probably won't get that till I get my micro sd ordered unless it can go in right now, now is there a limit to what I can get? I was hearing you can get 6gigs, but I am hearing 4 is the limit from sandisk, someone can confirm it? also...with the HTC skin, is there a way to adjust the weather temp from C to F instead?
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You don't need an SD card to flash a ROM using the Flash Center tutorial I gave you, unless the ROM is LZX or a Micro ROM. You just need to backup your contacts, photos, etc. You can do this using a utility from Microsoft called MyPhone . It will backup your data to a secure place online, and then when you flash the new ROM, you'll reinstall MyPhone (Unless you use JustHome, in which case MyPhone comes with it) and it will sync all of your data back to the device. Or you can do all of this manually as well.
It really depends on what you like... If you prefer a more finger friendly flashy ROM, use JustHome. If you prefer more RAM, use JustStable. I am personally willing to sacrifice some RAM for JustHome. But to really find what you like, you have to try it out.
www.newegg.com . You can order an SDHC card, it should be supported up to 16gb now. 8gb are pretty cheap though, 20-30 dollars. Sandisk also sells a couple 8 and 16gb SDHC cards. Although Kingston might be cheaper.
If you need any further help, please feel free to PM me with any questions you have. I check the forum pretty often, so I'll get back to you pretty quickly.

A though on making the Tilt 2 faster

As I've been redoing everything on my phone I realized that there is "separate" memory from storage and for program usage (aka the RAM). For storage there is 226MB and for Program there is 187MB.
I was thinking, with 187MB, the phone maxes out pretty quickly with all the stuff running on it, and sense usually tells us that it's above 60%. Well, can't we just reduce the storage memory and use it towards the RAM? To elaborate more, can't we shift the memory for the programs to become say 126MB and make the Program ram into 287MB? I mean I can do with 125MB for programs or even less if I plug in my storage card. Is this even feasible? Also I'm sorry in advance if this is in the wrong section!

this would be great!

Sure i have seen that asked some where before and the answer was no on that occasion

I dont believe that would make the processor work better inside these devices in this case. When programs and such r pulled up, its done in bits and pieces of info from different files within the internal memory. Its like having a file box and having either all of ur files just crammed inside, or having them seperated into "files". That way the programs know which files to open so they can bring up the programs faster instead of having to search through billions of bits they r broken down so the programs know just which files to search in.
I may be wrong, yet thats just my opinion.

Just use the OS and Sense our phones were meant to use; Windows Mobile 6.1 and Sense 2.1.
I never run out of RAM and on a clean reboot with Wisbar running and Sense, it only says I use about 36% RAM.

buru898 said:
Just use the OS and Sense our phones were meant to use; Windows Mobile 6.1 and Sense 2.1.
I never run out of RAM and on a clean reboot with Wisbar running and Sense, it only says I use about 36% RAM.
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The phone came with 6.5 and the new sense when I got it, can I downgrade it to 6.1?

It is not possible to use storage memory as RAM.
WM uses Volatile Memory as RAM (like a computer).
dwizzy130

csmeance said:
The phone came with 6.5 and the new sense when I got it, can I downgrade it to 6.1?
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Yes u can. Find the specific ROM u would like to use and see if its 6.1 or 6.5. The easiest way to do this is the download number. If it start with 21XXX then its most likely 6.1 if it starts with 23XXX then its most likely 6.5. Now heres where it gets a bit confusing... theres also a 6.5.3 and 6.5.5 ... If u have any questions most of the chefs on here r easy to talk to and will answer any questions u may have. Find a ROM u like, post a question in that forum (look to make sure that question hasnt been answered before u ask it.) and u will get ur answers.
Other answers can be found here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540

My Viewsonic V37 PDA running WinMo 3 has the ability to do this. There is a slider you can adjust for more RAM and less storage or vice-versa.

Miami_Son said:
My Viewsonic V37 PDA running WinMo 3 has the ability to do this. There is a slider you can adjust for more RAM and less storage or vice-versa.
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Yes because it uses volatile memory for both storage and RAM. The downside of that is whatever data is stored on the memory will be erased unless it is saved elsewhere. That's why they stopped using this technique in 2003.
dwizzy130

oddly, how come I only has a bout 178 total ram for program

PUTALE said:
oddly, how come I only has a bout 178 total ram for program
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The OS is loaded into the rest of it.

would a RAM drive be an alternative, and would it help?
Thinking back to pagefiles, and Ram drives on PC's, always increased the functional speed of those machines

How come no one has mentioned Virtual RAM? I suppose using part of the device memory as a temporary space for random access memory and clearing it on boot would work fine? I mean it worked for my ancient Windows 95 box, which had worse specs than my current phone anyways.

I dont use Sense 2.1 or 2.5
SPB Mobile Shell is, IMO, not only better, but a magnitude of times faster, more stable, and better battery life.
Now granted, SPB Mobile Shell has no where NEAR the eye candy that Sense 2.5 (or even 2.1) and all their various customized flavors have.. but thats the bottom line trade off.
You can either get speed, reliability, stability, battery life, or you can get crazy eye candy. You cant get both.
I loaded SPB Mobile Shell using NRG's latest Sense 2.1 build, then disabled Sense. That way, if i need Sense I can switch pretty easily, but after about 3 or 4 days using Mobile Shell, I dont think I'll ever go back.

[Q] Creating a snapshot of my HD2

I'm currently running a stock ROM.
There are some apps I absolutely need/want on my phone. Stuff like Remote Desktop, WiFiRouter, TomTom, Skype, Live Messenger and the ability to play streaming ASF/ASX files. All this works perfect in WM 6.5 - which is the reason I've never tried something like Android.
Although everything is running perfectly smooth, I'm kinda annoyed by the lack of apps available for WM 6.5. Which is the reason I want to experiment with Android on this phone. But I also want an easy return-path, meaning that if I can't find alternatives for the earlier mentioned WM6.5 apps, I want to go back to my old setup.
I know I could simply re-flash a stock ROM. But I'm not looking forward setting up/installing all my apps again. Even though I don't have many apps running on WM6.5, setting them up properly was a b**ch.
So I was wondering if there is a way to create a snapshot of the entire phone? Sort of like a Ghost/Image on a PC? So that when I want to go back, I only have to do a single restore and my phone is again exactly as it is now?

To take a quick snap shot of your HD2 theres this small app called VSnap http://mobisapienz.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=82&task=view.download&cid=55 and alot of other apps you can use. =) Make sure you thank the Author too. =) And to get back all your registrys try this http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/easily-backup-registry-values-with-settingsexporter/ i hope you found what you were looking for. =)

Have you considered dual booting? Android runs very well off the SD card and you can leave the WM 6.5 installation intact. The files from both OS's will peacefully co-exist on the SD card... No need to partition it, and Android is easily removable if you don't care for it.

thebest1 said:
To take a quick snap shot of your HD2 theres this small app called VSnap http://mobisapienz.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=82&task=view.download&cid=55 and alot of other apps you can use. =) Make sure you thank the Author too. =)
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As far as I understand the OP would like to make a complete dump of the content of his device. Not just a screenshot. That is something that you can do with a number of programs. VSNap appears to be one of them.

Thats what i tought that he meant that he wanted a complete dump of all his content. But the OP also said that :
So I was wondering if there is a way to create a snapshot of the entire phone?
zippy1970 what i recomment is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159797 from GhostXSeries make sure to thank him if you download. It allows you to build your own rom with all your settings and programs. i hope this helps.

RobE. said:
Have you considered dual booting? Android runs very well off the SD card and you can leave the WM 6.5 installation intact. The files from both OS's will peacefully co-exist on the SD card... No need to partition it, and Android is easily removable if you don't care for it.
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That's what I ended up doing, using RunDroid. But I was wondering if there was a speed penalty for running of the SD card. I tried a few Android flavors and some seem to run very slow while others fly. Also, I'm kinda shocked to see that with some Android builds I seem to get no more than a few hours of battery life. But that's a story for an entirely different thread I guess.