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o2 wap

Hi,
Im new to the site and the phone, just got an upgrade on it.
Im on the old Genie contracts so O2 wont allow me to use GPRS, does anyone know if theres a way round this? Also they told me I cant use wap on this phone, is this true?
Thank you

back in the day many cellphone operators offered wap over gsm
but i think that the operator have to support it just like with wap over grps
do people really use wap with their xda's btw ?
i never use it it's ugly and a horrible std. and when ones device can do normal html then why bother with wap ?

Obviously Id rather use GPRS but the phone just doesnt give me access to it (O2 have told me they have de-activated from there side, only way to get it is to change my contract which i dont want to do), so I have no alternative but to use WAP unless there is a way round the problem.

today wap use grps if they deactivated grps then i doubt you can find any way around that
however as i said then wap can also be made to use pure gsm and not use grps
but if the network operator dont support wap over gsm then there is no way around that
so you can look for wap settings for o2 without grps that is if they support that and try those settings

I was on the old Genie contract and you can't use GPRS or MMS (Which uses GPRS) without changing your contract.
You still however have the GSM connection using the telephone number : 915000 and the user and password being o2wap, this is a "Cellular Line" and will only be 9600bps but that is free on the old genie contract and will work for web and wap and email and msn.. its basically a slow net connection that routes through their servers (which seem to sometims compress images horrifically).
I've changed my contract as i wanted MMS and GPRS. If on the o2 Active screen you choose myxda and then connections you can choose GSM, but this sets up two connections one which is a wap number and one that is very slightly different that is a web number, neither of which are 915000 (probably due to when you're roaming) and the web number maybe chargable if they're picky.
If you setup what the XDA calls an ISP connectiong with the wap 915000 it works fine. However the ISP connection seems to be for Web connections and if you try to goto wsp:// in IE it says there's no connection present as i think its set to dial the work connection for wap usage. I've only had my phone for about a month and haven't really had a chance to get any furthur with this.
Good luck.
Hope that all helped.
Tristan

I have an O2 payg sim, I can connect to wap over gprs but I dont like wap, I use the gsm line to get full internet access for my 300 minutes free. It is very easy to setup and although it runs at only 9600 I am able to retrieve/send pop3 email and access all web sites. I delete all the autoconfig settings from connections before entering the gsm details.

I also have the old genie setup, and can both access wap and www etc using the original 915000 dial up free wap no. I am presuming you have the free message and free wap tarrif! If so I can give you the details if you pm me.
However you cant send or recieve mms messages still, you need to do this via the o2 site, when it bloomin works
Mitch

Thank you everyone for your help, this seems like a great community here
mitchellgunn, thats the same one I got, unlimited free wap and txting, Ive sent you a PM

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GPRS or WIFI?

Hi, if both GPRS and WIFI are present which wins? Does WM6 choose the faster connections, ie wifi to surf the web and receive emails?
Are there any settings for this? Many thanks

i'm interested in this too.
I flashed my Hermes with WM6 xesterday, and updated it today with the GPRSSettings via .cab-file.
20minutes ago i recognized the G in my titlebar, an it showed up that WM6 has established a 3G Connection for about 55minutes... does it cost anything if i'm just connected to the 3G network? or do i have to pay for transfered bytes only?
greetings
garfield

I think we only pay for what you download? So gprs can be connected for hours but if you only download one email and view one web page you pay for how many mbs you download.

yes, but what if i set up an emailaccount in the messaging-application, set it up to check my server every 15minutes, and haven't got any wifi connection available. Is there a way to limit my phone to wifi when checking for emails, without removing my GPRS settings? (because i need them for MMS i think)

Sorry, i don't know. Hoping someone can answer my first question:
"Hi, if both GPRS and WIFI are present which wins? Does WM6 choose the faster connections, ie wifi to surf the web and receive emails?
Are there any settings for this? Many thanks"

now I'm not really sure, and probably you've seen it already, but in case not the first post in the following thread might help
The beauty is that Windows mobile knows it needs to use the "GPRS Internet", only when other connections are not present.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309108

MMS on HTC Touch

ey y'all
i'm havin sum questions bout the MMS settings, on my HTC Touch
when i tried sending an MMS message earlier with a picture & msg in it, my phone automatically connected to my provider's data connection to send it.
I don't want this.
I opened the provider settings, to try n change it n get it 2 work thru WiFi... can someone help with that?
Here's wut i gotta enter:
-Server name: Internet?
-Gateway : .. ?
-Port number: ..?
-Server address: ?
-Connect via: The Internet (or my ISP?)
-Send limit: 300K
-WAP Version: WAP 2.0

it can only be don if the operator alow access from the normal web some only allow access from the servers the phone have access to from the phone

what's your provider?

And how m i supposed 2 get allowance 2 use wifi i'm not callin those bastardz dey wan me 2 use their data connect!
I'm in Canada, n my provider is Rogers

I don't know what to tell you in that respect. I'm pretty sure MMS requires data on any phone. Even if not, HTCs are made especially for data usage...

wit my old nokia, i cud send MMSes without ever havin 2 connect 2 no GPRS... quite surprisin =S

Actually the MMS mode on nokias used a specific GPRS connect which was invisible to normal use. It used an MMS access point

but i wouldn't get charged for any 'data' connection... just the MMS cost

from what i know, is that MMS's are charged not by data but MMS itself.
example, sending an MMS cost's u only the MMS price (data not included).
maybe providers are different, donno.

Problems using MMS On GPRS (TMUK)

Hi there,
Got my new G1 (BRILLIANT) the only problem is that when i'm using the GPRS network (for power saving) i cant send mms. The problem isnt network related because the sim can send them on 3g using the G1 and on GPRS in my SE w880, a few of my colleagues are having the same problem and were just looking to see if its only us or are other users having the same problems?
Using RC8.
Thanks In Advance

I havent noticed this problem yet, but I could assume its down to the data connection and the "mms data" connection being two different settings.
On my Hermes (WM) I couldnt send a mms without disconnecting my internet connection and allowing the phone to connect to the mms data connection.
WM could be altered to use the data connection to send MMS'. I assume the G1 wants to keep the data connection open all the time (which on 2g/gsm is your one and only connection) and this prevents MMS' being sent.
Imp

Exchange & MMS

Hi
I have a question about the Mms.
I have my phone connected thru a exchange server and when someone send me a mms the phone cant connect to recive it, i must disconnect the exchange uplink=(internet).
Is it just me or can i change something on my phone to get the mms working at the same time i have the internet exchange online...
//Asik

Exchange ActiveSync & MMS
Hi Asik,
I have the same problem with MMS and Exchange Sync. When you have set MMS to automatically download, the X1 will try a few times to download the MMS without notifying me and after 8 days (in my network), I get the message that the MMS timed out and I'm no longer able to get it - VERY BAD
If you set the MMS to download manually, you will get notified that a new MMS is there! You can then click on "Download". The X1 then shows a message that it needs to disconnect Internet and connect to the MMS APN. You have to say "Yes" on the right Menu Now! Then, the MMS gets downloaded and afterwards, Internet gets reconnected for Exchange ActiveSync. Not very beautiful, but at least a workaround.
Does anybody knows of a better way?

Ok, so its not just me that have this problem....
I also use the above metod to get my MMS and it sucks that i cant get them auto to me...
Help us out here guys... this cant be the way to do it or ???
//Asik

Exchange ActiveSync & MMS
Hi Asik,
another solution would be to use the same APN for Internet and MMS. Unfortunately, this does not work for me and probaly for most of us because:
My Provider has seperate APN's for MMS and Internet:
With the Internet APN, I cannot access the MMSC to download or send messages.
With the MMS APN, I can access both, Internet and MMSC, but it get's disconnected automatically after receiving an MMS or after about 2 Minutes. With this, ActiveSync would reconnect every 2 Minutes and this would be quite expensive, because a new 20kB Block would be charged and never used bevor the next disconnect.
The Telco's should provide an Internet APN that doesn't disconnect and also allows to connect the MMSC.

I think its the same for my provider...Telia Sweden