Hi,
Im new to the site and the phone, just got an upgrade on it.
Im on the old Genie contracts so O2 wont allow me to use GPRS, does anyone know if theres a way round this? Also they told me I cant use wap on this phone, is this true?
Thank you
back in the day many cellphone operators offered wap over gsm
but i think that the operator have to support it just like with wap over grps
do people really use wap with their xda's btw ?
i never use it it's ugly and a horrible std. and when ones device can do normal html then why bother with wap ?
Obviously Id rather use GPRS but the phone just doesnt give me access to it (O2 have told me they have de-activated from there side, only way to get it is to change my contract which i dont want to do), so I have no alternative but to use WAP unless there is a way round the problem.
today wap use grps if they deactivated grps then i doubt you can find any way around that
however as i said then wap can also be made to use pure gsm and not use grps
but if the network operator dont support wap over gsm then there is no way around that
so you can look for wap settings for o2 without grps that is if they support that and try those settings
I was on the old Genie contract and you can't use GPRS or MMS (Which uses GPRS) without changing your contract.
You still however have the GSM connection using the telephone number : 915000 and the user and password being o2wap, this is a "Cellular Line" and will only be 9600bps but that is free on the old genie contract and will work for web and wap and email and msn.. its basically a slow net connection that routes through their servers (which seem to sometims compress images horrifically).
I've changed my contract as i wanted MMS and GPRS. If on the o2 Active screen you choose myxda and then connections you can choose GSM, but this sets up two connections one which is a wap number and one that is very slightly different that is a web number, neither of which are 915000 (probably due to when you're roaming) and the web number maybe chargable if they're picky.
If you setup what the XDA calls an ISP connectiong with the wap 915000 it works fine. However the ISP connection seems to be for Web connections and if you try to goto wsp:// in IE it says there's no connection present as i think its set to dial the work connection for wap usage. I've only had my phone for about a month and haven't really had a chance to get any furthur with this.
Good luck.
Hope that all helped.
Tristan
I have an O2 payg sim, I can connect to wap over gprs but I dont like wap, I use the gsm line to get full internet access for my 300 minutes free. It is very easy to setup and although it runs at only 9600 I am able to retrieve/send pop3 email and access all web sites. I delete all the autoconfig settings from connections before entering the gsm details.
I also have the old genie setup, and can both access wap and www etc using the original 915000 dial up free wap no. I am presuming you have the free message and free wap tarrif! If so I can give you the details if you pm me.
However you cant send or recieve mms messages still, you need to do this via the o2 site, when it bloomin works
Mitch
Thank you everyone for your help, this seems like a great community here
mitchellgunn, thats the same one I got, unlimited free wap and txting, Ive sent you a PM
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Hello all
Can any walk me through a set up on the XDA for a vodafone dial-up internet connection. My SIM card doesnt support GPRS and out boss thinks GPRS is too pricey, so I am stuck using dial-up for the time being. The problem is there seems to be conflicting info on the internet about how to set it up... and most of that is for a Nokia phone.
I am sure someone is out there who can help me out...
Thanks! 8)
Gene
Have you not tried the Vodafone web site (I'm assuming they support GSM dial up to their web service).
Alternatively, you may want to consider using O2 Mobile Web via GSM longcode.
Optimises http, so can be quite tolerable for PDA friendly web sites and light email usage.
Settings:
Dialup +447712932932
DNS1 193.113.200.200
DNS2 193.113.200.201
TBY
Forgot to mention that username and password can be anything, but not left empty.
TBY
Thanks. Those numbers worked like a charm.
I will also contact Vodafone and ask them for the dial-up access.
Gene
Sorry if this has been asked before.
I have an XDA1 and an old online genie payandgo SIM card. Since for some reason im no longer getting free WAP minutes I decided to set up the payandgo GPRS service, which I've managed to do using payandgo.o2.co.uk as the APN.
The internet works fine, but when I try to use anything else like MSN Messenger or iMov it just won't connect.
Is there any way of getting this working?
thanks in advance for your help.
MC
have you applied the msn update from microsoft???
This is a problem with O2 and PAYG web access; O2 don't even have a consistent answer- customer services give different information to different callers.
Till recently, you could only use PAYG GPRS to access the WAP APN, and many users actually have free WAP GPRS on their SIMS. Since the recent change in the Tariffs, you can now have "Mobile Web" enabled for PAYG SIMS but it is charged at £2.35 per Mb; WAP is the same price, but the 1st 1 MB is free if you top up at least £10 per month. You need to call customer services to enable the Mobile Web APN, if it is available.
MSN is only available via the Mobile Web APN (I think!) but is still fairly flakey. Even the WAP Proxy setting (see previous posts) won't work for most people with MSN or POP3 Email.
If MSN refuses to work, you could try Agile Messenger, or ChatToGo, both of which support all the major IM clients, but again, are unlikely to work over WAP GPRS.
I have had occasions where no connection is possible for hours or days, then it will connect and no problems for months, I was told that contract customers are given preference over payg when the system is busy. I have no evidence to support this though, also I cant see why the system should be so busy that people get booted or temporarily barred through data congestion problems.
I agree with you totally- but I don't think its just PAYG/PP, it also seems to be between WAP and Web GPRS.
When Mobile Web was launched in 2002, it was a premium service, and O2 stated that the MW APN had priority on the GPRS network. But some cells did not support GPRS at all, and some were not set up for Mobile Web.
Since that time O2 have played around with the GPRS WAP and Web services so much that they are in a total muddle. For a long time all WAP access was free, but MW continued to be chargeable. Then they decided to charge for WAP in June 2004, but on a content basis (ie a News Clip would cost xx pence, a ringtone xx pence etc.)
O2 then discovered that some folk use a Proxy to access Web sites via the WAP APN (a service O2 themselves introduced for devices like the Nokia 660 which had a web browser of sorts) so that charging policy had to be modified.
Now add the incompetence of some of the O2 sub-contractors, who said you could have MMS but not Mobile Web on a contract as their billing systems did not support more than 2 APN's; now we have Blackberry with yet another APN and same story- CPW say they can't support BB (which is a modified WAP system, so again no full Web, MSN or POP3) and MW APN's together, though O2 Online can apparently!
All adds to confusion and dissatisfaction with O2
I have an o2 online talkalot Payg sim.
I get 300 free wap dialup minutes a month.
I used to use them for Internet access, web browsing, sync email and chat on msn.
A few weeks ago i noticed that the web had stopped working, I couldnt get to any site, hang on, pda.o2.co.uk works though.... Nothing else.
MSN and email still worked..
Now nothing. I cant get email, cant chat on msn, only the bloody pda.o2.co.uk website, and half the links from that dont work.
Have o2 changed everything without telling me?
I’m trying to do three things,
1- set up an o2 pay&go gprs connection
2- be able to save my contract gprs connection
3- to set all of this up in the corporate mode (i hate that horrible O2 active stuff)
i have been trying to do this for ages, i can connect with my contract sim but nothing else.
if some one could give me a step by step guide that would be great, if not any links
you could prob saved alot of time doing a search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18118&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13861&highlight=
getting prepay configurations to work on o2 is a pain in the a**, however you need your connection settings configured for the work network only and if you havent a connecting profile create one with the details that follow;
apn - payandgo.o2.co.uk
userid - payandgo
pwd - password
you also need to update proxy details for wap - 193.113.200.195
also bear in mind that you wont be able to connect to the internet directly, no email, skype, messenging, vpn access or other services except for basic wap browsing, it sucks but that's o2 and prepay... cheap and cheerful and not meant for these devices ;(
rgds
jim
I could always get wap pages - at about 1 pence per page but can now get web pages using the above setting in the http box then chose port 8080 (instead of port 80) .
More information and sites to choose from but it seems extremely expensive ! !
I go on for a few minutes to see the latest news or football stories and it costs about one pound 50 pence for around 2 minutes !!
Does it have to be this expensive or is there a cheaper way of surfing - using a PAY AS YOU GO sim ??
Is anybody using their JasJar on the Three network, i tried a matees sim in mine and i was able to do video, but i was wondering about all the other Three services. Live TV, football downloads and the like, do they work, if so what do you need to do to access all these features. I am thinking about going to Three from O2 (No 3G Service in my area), so any advice would help.
Also do three allow full internet access?
Cheers
Richard
Tried my current "three" sim and it worked fine as a phone - not tried video call
When I changed settings- I did get a GPRS ( 3G- shows as U on xda exec) connection - to a pager telling me to sign up ( ie its not free / inclusive in normal tarrifs)
They do mobile web ( not sure you get full internet access) 5mb at £2.50
OR
wireless web - which costs £45 per month for 512Mb of data
these are as an extra to a contract
http://www.three.co.uk/explore/howmuch/addons/payMonthlyindex05.omp
I have previously tried them for dial up , using a mobile as a modem ( geog no for ISP) but they know its data call and block it ( or at least did for me )-
What are the GPRS settings for THREE ?
Can you get to the normal THREE menus via the Universal?
Ive used the THREE menus on my old XDAII but lost the settings now. I got them from a nokia 7600 a friend had.
All I changed was the homepage to three.co.uk
settings
hello
i too have a '3' sim with 6 months left on contract but i am having difficulty finding connection settings to access the three network.
i would like to use the mms facility and also mobile internet
any help please.
thanks
Right, for Hutchinson 3G UK (3) you need to use the following settings.
Connection
Connection Type:
GPRS/3G
Access Point:
three.co.uk
Username & Password:
LEAVE BLANK
MMS Settings
Gateway:
217.171.129.2
Port:
9201
Server address:
http://mms.um.three.co.uk:10021/mmsc
As for being able to browse 3's "Services", I found the homepage won't display correctly.
Background - I just bought a used 700wx from a friend and had it activated on my Cell provider, Sasktel, in SK, Canada. He had it on an expensive data plan and was tired of paying for this. A friend of a friend works for them and just transferred my account to this one from my previous phone, a Samsung A920 with Wap browsing. Sasktel provides their services using CDMA.
I would like to set up a WAP connection using this phone but am unable to find any connection software for this. The only connection I seem to be able to set up in system/connections are the TCPIP connections. I have the gateway IP address and port and my friends friend at Sasktel says that once I dial in with a wap connection, the authentication will automatically happen.
I have done some searching and seem to find that GSM phones have a GPRS setting that meets the requirements for a WAP connection ie; just the gateway and ports information.
Would anyone have any info that could help or point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Carl
I don't think Treo will support WAP, the method of login is a bit different and not known by many people