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o2 wap

Hi,
Im new to the site and the phone, just got an upgrade on it.
Im on the old Genie contracts so O2 wont allow me to use GPRS, does anyone know if theres a way round this? Also they told me I cant use wap on this phone, is this true?
Thank you

back in the day many cellphone operators offered wap over gsm
but i think that the operator have to support it just like with wap over grps
do people really use wap with their xda's btw ?
i never use it it's ugly and a horrible std. and when ones device can do normal html then why bother with wap ?

Obviously Id rather use GPRS but the phone just doesnt give me access to it (O2 have told me they have de-activated from there side, only way to get it is to change my contract which i dont want to do), so I have no alternative but to use WAP unless there is a way round the problem.

today wap use grps if they deactivated grps then i doubt you can find any way around that
however as i said then wap can also be made to use pure gsm and not use grps
but if the network operator dont support wap over gsm then there is no way around that
so you can look for wap settings for o2 without grps that is if they support that and try those settings

I was on the old Genie contract and you can't use GPRS or MMS (Which uses GPRS) without changing your contract.
You still however have the GSM connection using the telephone number : 915000 and the user and password being o2wap, this is a "Cellular Line" and will only be 9600bps but that is free on the old genie contract and will work for web and wap and email and msn.. its basically a slow net connection that routes through their servers (which seem to sometims compress images horrifically).
I've changed my contract as i wanted MMS and GPRS. If on the o2 Active screen you choose myxda and then connections you can choose GSM, but this sets up two connections one which is a wap number and one that is very slightly different that is a web number, neither of which are 915000 (probably due to when you're roaming) and the web number maybe chargable if they're picky.
If you setup what the XDA calls an ISP connectiong with the wap 915000 it works fine. However the ISP connection seems to be for Web connections and if you try to goto wsp:// in IE it says there's no connection present as i think its set to dial the work connection for wap usage. I've only had my phone for about a month and haven't really had a chance to get any furthur with this.
Good luck.
Hope that all helped.
Tristan

I have an O2 payg sim, I can connect to wap over gprs but I dont like wap, I use the gsm line to get full internet access for my 300 minutes free. It is very easy to setup and although it runs at only 9600 I am able to retrieve/send pop3 email and access all web sites. I delete all the autoconfig settings from connections before entering the gsm details.

I also have the old genie setup, and can both access wap and www etc using the original 915000 dial up free wap no. I am presuming you have the free message and free wap tarrif! If so I can give you the details if you pm me.
However you cant send or recieve mms messages still, you need to do this via the o2 site, when it bloomin works
Mitch

Thank you everyone for your help, this seems like a great community here
mitchellgunn, thats the same one I got, unlimited free wap and txting, Ive sent you a PM

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PayAndGo SIM + GPRS + msn

Sorry if this has been asked before.
I have an XDA1 and an old online genie payandgo SIM card. Since for some reason im no longer getting free WAP minutes I decided to set up the payandgo GPRS service, which I've managed to do using payandgo.o2.co.uk as the APN.
The internet works fine, but when I try to use anything else like MSN Messenger or iMov it just won't connect.
Is there any way of getting this working?
thanks in advance for your help.
MC

have you applied the msn update from microsoft???

This is a problem with O2 and PAYG web access; O2 don't even have a consistent answer- customer services give different information to different callers.
Till recently, you could only use PAYG GPRS to access the WAP APN, and many users actually have free WAP GPRS on their SIMS. Since the recent change in the Tariffs, you can now have "Mobile Web" enabled for PAYG SIMS but it is charged at £2.35 per Mb; WAP is the same price, but the 1st 1 MB is free if you top up at least £10 per month. You need to call customer services to enable the Mobile Web APN, if it is available.
MSN is only available via the Mobile Web APN (I think!) but is still fairly flakey. Even the WAP Proxy setting (see previous posts) won't work for most people with MSN or POP3 Email.
If MSN refuses to work, you could try Agile Messenger, or ChatToGo, both of which support all the major IM clients, but again, are unlikely to work over WAP GPRS.

I have had occasions where no connection is possible for hours or days, then it will connect and no problems for months, I was told that contract customers are given preference over payg when the system is busy. I have no evidence to support this though, also I cant see why the system should be so busy that people get booted or temporarily barred through data congestion problems.

I agree with you totally- but I don't think its just PAYG/PP, it also seems to be between WAP and Web GPRS.
When Mobile Web was launched in 2002, it was a premium service, and O2 stated that the MW APN had priority on the GPRS network. But some cells did not support GPRS at all, and some were not set up for Mobile Web.
Since that time O2 have played around with the GPRS WAP and Web services so much that they are in a total muddle. For a long time all WAP access was free, but MW continued to be chargeable. Then they decided to charge for WAP in June 2004, but on a content basis (ie a News Clip would cost xx pence, a ringtone xx pence etc.)
O2 then discovered that some folk use a Proxy to access Web sites via the WAP APN (a service O2 themselves introduced for devices like the Nokia 660 which had a web browser of sorts) so that charging policy had to be modified.
Now add the incompetence of some of the O2 sub-contractors, who said you could have MMS but not Mobile Web on a contract as their billing systems did not support more than 2 APN's; now we have Blackberry with yet another APN and same story- CPW say they can't support BB (which is a modified WAP system, so again no full Web, MSN or POP3) and MW APN's together, though O2 Online can apparently!
All adds to confusion and dissatisfaction with O2

I have an o2 online talkalot Payg sim.
I get 300 free wap dialup minutes a month.
I used to use them for Internet access, web browsing, sync email and chat on msn.
A few weeks ago i noticed that the web had stopped working, I couldnt get to any site, hang on, pda.o2.co.uk works though.... Nothing else.
MSN and email still worked..
Now nothing. I cant get email, cant chat on msn, only the bloody pda.o2.co.uk website, and half the links from that dont work.
Have o2 changed everything without telling me?

Three Services

Is anybody using their JasJar on the Three network, i tried a matees sim in mine and i was able to do video, but i was wondering about all the other Three services. Live TV, football downloads and the like, do they work, if so what do you need to do to access all these features. I am thinking about going to Three from O2 (No 3G Service in my area), so any advice would help.
Also do three allow full internet access?
Cheers
Richard

Tried my current "three" sim and it worked fine as a phone - not tried video call
When I changed settings- I did get a GPRS ( 3G- shows as U on xda exec) connection - to a pager telling me to sign up ( ie its not free / inclusive in normal tarrifs)
They do mobile web ( not sure you get full internet access) 5mb at £2.50
OR
wireless web - which costs £45 per month for 512Mb of data
these are as an extra to a contract
http://www.three.co.uk/explore/howmuch/addons/payMonthlyindex05.omp
I have previously tried them for dial up , using a mobile as a modem ( geog no for ISP) but they know its data call and block it ( or at least did for me )-

What are the GPRS settings for THREE ?
Can you get to the normal THREE menus via the Universal?
Ive used the THREE menus on my old XDAII but lost the settings now. I got them from a nokia 7600 a friend had.

All I changed was the homepage to three.co.uk

settings
hello
i too have a '3' sim with 6 months left on contract but i am having difficulty finding connection settings to access the three network.
i would like to use the mms facility and also mobile internet
any help please.
thanks

Right, for Hutchinson 3G UK (3) you need to use the following settings.
Connection
Connection Type:
GPRS/3G
Access Point:
three.co.uk
Username & Password:
LEAVE BLANK
MMS Settings
Gateway:
217.171.129.2
Port:
9201
Server address:
http://mms.um.three.co.uk:10021/mmsc
As for being able to browse 3's "Services", I found the homepage won't display correctly.

T-MOBILE USA GPRS HELP

Hi, i finally got the unlock code from Tmobile and i am now able to use my phone.
I am trying to setup the GPRS with Tmobile USA. I went onle and found some information, put it in and setup GPRS, but it does not seem to work. When i try to open a wap site with the GPRS, like wap.yahoo.com, it does not come up.
I do not pay for the GPRS, but from what i heard, with out devices, we can use it free, but not full web functionality. We can use pop, imap and stuff, and also get mms, and access wap site. Please if any one knows any configurations that work it will be greatly appreciated.

Try setting up your Proxy settings.
They changed their network requirement recently for Port 80 (HTTP). Be nice if they told everyone though!
Proxy setting should be:
216.155.165.50 on port 8080

According to the Tmobile sites I've frequented, there is no such thing as "free web" anymore and it disappeared months ago. Last time I checked personally, the cheapest you could get away with is the T-Zones data plan....whatever they call it now. I think it's 6 or 7 dollars a month and lets you use wap.voicestream.com as an access point. If you do that and use the proxy server 216.155.165.50, port 8080, you can get to most of the web. Recently, however, I've been reading that even that loophole is slowly being closed by area so while it mght work for me, it may not for you and it might not work for me tomorrow. You can certainly try it using the above access point and proxy setting, but don't be surprised if it does nothing without your paying for a data package.

Yeah, it seems they are slowly shutting down that "function" as mine works sporadically now. Damn. It was a bargain at $4.99/month for the last yr or so

yep - welcome to my world of 10 USD for 2MB a month ! :-(

A bargain indeed. I'm waiting to see if you can do the proxy workaround with your own proxy server. I've had the $20/mo package for ages and it's well worth it but my wife and son have the $5/mo package and use Tmo's http for web access and my own socks proxy for MSN Messenger. A fixed IP address is a big help but you might be able to get away with using dyndns.org for that, too. I guess we'll find out soon as more and more people find out they're starting to get what they paid for.

Well i'm sort of bummed out right now.
My t-mobile Tzones unlimited internet is working again, if I use the proxy. That's dandy. If I turn on my WI-FI and connect to my home wifi, however, I have to go into connections and turn off the proxy for my tmobile gprs in order for me to connect to the internet.
Perhaps I'm doing something horribly wrong, or is this the only way to do it? Please let me know.........

questionable
I have tried all i know, the proxy is blocking my wifi from connecting to the net, so i had to take it out. It says i am connected but i cannot seem to pull up any site, so i paid for the $5.99 t-zone deal, it says it might take a while to provision.
Now i am trying to test the connection by sending MMS, it has been a while i usually don't send MMS. How do i send MMS to a friend in london, i'm in the states, i know it is their mobile [email protected], just don't know what the something is. I know the US version is [email protected]. Thanks.
Also, my MDA PRo gives me an option of WAP1.2 or WAP 2.0, what is the diffrence?

obiesoft said:
Hi, i finally got the unlock code from Tmobile and i am now able to use my phone.
I am trying to setup the GPRS with Tmobile USA. I went onle and found some information, put it in and setup GPRS, but it does not seem to work. When i try to open a wap site with the GPRS, like wap.yahoo.com, it does not come up.
I do not pay for the GPRS, but from what i heard, with out devices, we can use it free, but not full web functionality. We can use pop, imap and stuff, and also get mms, and access wap site. Please if any one knows any configurations that work it will be greatly appreciated.
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Walk into a tmobile store and tell them that you want to pay for a sidekick plan for a compatible euro piece of hardware.
It will cost you $30 usd but its unlimited gprs
Create a new connection and use wap.voicestream.com as the access point. You might still have to call tech support if you don't bring the universal with you because the way I understand it, they ping the simchip and grab the IMEI over the air...may be better to just bring it.
Works great for me. I pop my verizon dsl mail all day with this baby
Now SOMEONE GET ME MY PUSH MAIL!!!

Try this settings...I hope this helps.
Primary IP address: 216.155.165.050
Secondary IP address: Blank
APN name: wap.voicestream.com
Data bearer: GPRS
Profile name: GPRS
Username: Blank
Bearer: Data
Home page: http://wap.myvoicestream.com

GPRS Settings

Hi guys. i know this topic has been done to death, but please one more time.
Can someone provide the setting and info i need to get my wizard to connect to O2 GPRS pay as you go.
i believe it is possible but can not manage it, i once asked o2 to enable gprs and i have the G on the taskbar. so i'm assuming i'm all good to go.
i told the setup app after a hard reset that i wanted gprs and it always says unknown error can't connect etc...
please help, don't link me off to a mad thread that argues against itself, i could really so with finding someone that uses a wizard on o2 pay as you go.
anyone?
PS: thanks

Oh shucks sometimes we like to send people on wild goose chases ! :wink:
But for you
Session Type Continuous/Permanent
Security Off
Gateway Address
Port number 9201
DNS Address 193.113.200.200 (dont need to add)
193.113.200.201
Authentication Normal
Access Point Name payandgo.o2.co.uk
Username payandgo
Password password
Home Page http://pda.o2.co.uk/
I use both contract and payg

that is brilliant, my settings were all messed up.
atill didn't work so i wondered about my sim, called o2 and yes i have data enabled but my sim is nearly 8 years old and so gprs is kinda beyound it lol. its a pp4 sim and i think the latest is a pp9.
anyway o2 are sending me a new one for free so it should work with these setting, many thanks

i now have a new sim but still can not connect
well ok i can connect it says connecting then i get the 2 arrows saying its connected. but checking my hotmail... i select send and receive and it takes ages then errors saying it can not respond to one of the requests.
i have checked with o2 that i cam data enabled, i have a new sim and i am using the above settings provided by meschle. (where do you put the port number btw? could not see that anywhere).
anyone have any ideas... please

Port number is not important if not asked for. Sounds like it is connecting - can you browse on internet? How are you trying to download hotmail? As far as I know you cant download email by pop with hotmail.

thanks for your fast reply. i'm using pocketmsn well trying to anyway. its got my hotmail email listed in it and works well on wifi. msn messenger fails to connect as well.
can i just confirm you have managed to use payasyougo gprs with the wizard? i'm a thinking its time to call O2 again.
one daft question... how do i hard reset it? the manual says. turn it off hold and keep held the top 2 buttons and stab the reset pin. this never worked it did once work while the device was turned on. now i come to hard reset it again and i simply cannot. have tried all sequences of on off buttons and stabbing. this is a daft problem to be having lol

I have a payg card but is not connected for data, the settings were from the same source as contract settings which work. Just a question under connections when you add new connection - did you choose cellular line (gprs) - just a thought could be missed.
Hard reset - the way you describe is the way i do it without problem. Some people do it by settings\clear storage - i feel its pretty much the same.

I want to say thanks a lot for your help, but if you have never connected to gprs on a payasyougo sim then you don't know if it will work. O2 assure me it can work but i'm close to thinking it can not.
Could you try your payasyougo sim with data and see if it works? then i will know if it is a fault my end or not.
Is there anyone out there that HAS go O2 payasyougo GPRS working on a wizard?
PS: hard reset, thanks clear storage works

I have an O2 contract and have an O2 PAYgo sim as well, the PAYgo sim will let you surf the internet via GPRS but NOT send and receive email or connect Agile messenger or pocket MSN, basically its a crap GPRS service, on O2 contract you connect via GPRS through what O2 call their 'mobile web' service, with this you can send/receive email, connect to pocket MSN etc no probs, but like i said PAYgo will not let you connect via O2's 'mobile web' service. So basically your screwed with O2 PAYgo!
The BEST option is to buy an Orange PAYgo sim for a quid i think from their web site, this gives you the same deal as the O2 option i.e 300 free text, 1 MB data for topping up a tenner a month, BUT you will be able to connect to pocket MSN, send receive emails and connect to Agile messenger no probs, i've got one of these and it works brilliantly! They even have an add on that lets you pay a quid for unlimited GPRS usage up to midnight of that particular day, its a fantastic deal!
These are the settings i used on my O2 XDA IIs and now use on my MINI S (the steps it shows in order set it up are for the XDA IIs, but is nearly the same for the MINI S):
1. Go to Start -> Settings -> Connections Tab -> Connections.
2. You'll see 2 sets of option links. 'My ISP' and 'Work'. Under the work links, choose 'Add a new modem connection'.
3. Name for connection: o2 gprs. Modem: Cellular Line (GPRS). Tap Next.
4. Access Point Name: wap.o2.co.uk (for contract) payandgo.o2.co.uk (for payandgo)
5. Username: o2wap (for contract) payandgo (for payandgo)
6. Password: password
7. Tap Finish.
8. Back in the connections settings screen, tap 'Edit My Proxy Server'.
9. Tick 'This network connects to the Internet' and 'This network uses a proxy server to connect to the Internet'.
10. In the proxy server box enter: 193.113.200.195
11. Tap OK.
12. Back in the connections settings screen, tap the Advanced tab.
13. Tap 'Select Networks'
14. In both drop down boxes choose 'Work' as the connection. Tap OK.
15. Tap OK again.
16. Sorted!
GSM:
(cellular line) dialup WAP access via shortcode 915000 or 07712927927.
Username o2wap
Password password
proxy settigs are:
HTTP 193.113.200.195 Port 8080
WAP 193.113.200.195 Port 9201
SECURE WAP 193.113.200.200 Port 9203
SOCKS 193.113.200.195 Port 1080
links to WAP pages only work if they begin wsp://

OK BRILLIANT you have summed up my problem exactly, thanks i thought i was going mad.
i have ordered an orange sim expecting it very soon.
BIG THANKS GUYS

OK BRILLIANT you have summed up my problem exactly, thanks i thought i was going mad.
i have ordered an orange sim expecting it very soon.
BIG THANKS GUYS

help
alright i did the pen calbration on my gprs mini and every since its been messing up please help me fix it