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Where is all of my storage going?!?!?

I went to take a picture today with my 8125 and it said i only had 22 remaining.... i swear a few days ago it was well over 50. Im assuming the pictures get saved to the "storage" memory by default so i checked my memory and it says i only have 6.5 mb left. I have no clue how this is possible since i dont even have a lot of programs installed. here is what i have installed 3rd party:
tonaya weather to go
magic button
agile messenger
TCPMP with two plugins
TomTom w/ one voice
Not sure what this one is but : FdcSoft PPCContacts manager. (let mek now if i can delete this one)
along with that i have 13 full res pictures and the stock ones it came with. Im running aku2.3 if that has any affect...
like i said i just dont understand how i am using almost 40mb out of 47. and im not quite sure what program memory consists of but that is almost have full at around 22mb of 44mb. Thanks for the help

use activesync to delete some unneccessary sound files, and pics

dropknowledge said:
use activesync to delete some unneccessary sound files, and pics
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even if I do that it seems like it would only free up a few mb`s if that....it seems like something else is hogging my space.

DO not assume anything. Usually by default, items are stored to your Main Memory. Go in and check all your programs, change the default "save to" and clear cache and temp files.

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DO not assume anything. Usually by default, items are stored to your Main Memory. Go in and check all your programs, change the default "save to" and clear cache and temp files.
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I can't say I understand...could you please explain a little more please. do all of the new programs I install go to storage memory or program? I'm just confsed on what to clear out

well i posted this topic earlier today and i said that i had around 6mb of free storage space. I just went to install opera and it said my storage space was down to 2mb! I havnt installed anything or taken any pictures since i started this topic and i lost 4mb of storage already. How is this happening?? I did 2 soft resets and my storage memory never went up. Im really confused as to how this thing is eating my storage memory without me doing anything. I had to delete agile messenger just to gain some space! Please help with this

Storage mem is where you install apps and where apps by default save their files (pictures, video's, temp files, IE cache, Word documents etc). When you use your cam to take pictures, they come in the mydocuments folder on your storage mem. To change this, you have to go into the options of all apps you use and change the default storage location for the files to SD card. For instance: in the camera app, go to the settings, options, general and change the location to storage card.
With file explorer you can search your device for these files, perhaps your pics are taking up so much space? You can also use the built-in search function in start-programs and search for files larger than 64 kb, that should show you the culprits.
Program Mem under WM5 is only used to run apps, not to store them. It wll gradually fill up since not all apps are properly closed, even with task managers. Soft-resetting will empty your program mem from these apps and free up your RAM.
Storage mem is ROM mem and will not be emptied by a soft reset. There must be a lot of files in your storage mem that take up the place, so find out which apps do that. perhaps you have been surfing and there are large temp files from IE on your device?

Thanks for the advice, that is pretty much the answer i needed. One more question though, where should i regularly look to delete files? I will change my picture save location to my stroage card but what are some places i should always be clearing out? Thanks
Edit: I think i may have found the main culprit....one i forgot i transfered a 6mb song for a ring tone and second i went to windows=profiles=guest=temp internet files and cleared all that out and now im up to 22mb of free storgage! Is there any way i can not have it save the temp files or something? Also, in the windows folder it has all of my sounds/ring tones and those same files are also in the Rings folder. It wont let me delete them out of the windows folder and i dont want to delete them out of the rings folder and have it not work. What should i do?

You can run the search function in start-programs regularly if your storage mem goes down to fast for your liking to see large files that hog your storage mem (like files and frames in your temp folder that you downloaded or some app dumped there).
To clear out the IE cache, start IE, tap menu-options-memory and click the buttons delete history and delete files.
I have no idea which other locations to check, I only applied the camera option and clear out the IE cache once in a while (f I remember to). I have lots of apps installed in storage mem and still approx 15 MB free, so freeing up space has never been an issue for me.
good luck with it!
PS judging on your installed apps, I have no idea what can hog your storage so extremely. Perhaps the weather app is saving all downloaded data somewhere on main? I presume that your TT maps are on storage card (they are too big for intenal strage anyway)
PPS AFAIK PPCContact Manager helps you to select all your contacts in one go, for batch sending them trough BT to e.g. a BT carkit or other operations you want to carry out involving all contacts instead of one by one. tap and hold on a contact and you should see "Select all contacts" in the pop-up menu.

youve been a huge help koksie, i appreciate it. Any idea why my soungs are stored in the windows folder and under windows/rings? It wont let me delete them out of the windows folder but it will out of the rings folder. The only reason i dont want to delete them out of the rings folder is i feel if i do then i wont be able to select the deleted ones as ring tones even though they are still in my windows folder. Maybe i should just leave this as is...

Have a search for a free utility called Where Is My RAM? WIMR. As I can best recall this will run on WM5 too and will list your files in order of size. A real boon!

There's a program called Registry Wizard made by one of the geniuses here that will set your IE temp/cache files to be saved to the storage card. I use it and love it! It also has a lot of other tweaks for performance, annoyances, etc....
Do a search for it.
Hell....it's still on the first page when I do a search for "8125"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725&highlight=8125

I store all my songs on the storage mini SD card. Only my ringtones and mp3 I want to set as ringtone are in the windows/rings dir. All the songs I only use for listening are on my SD card. Use total Commander (freeware) to delete all the stuff you don't need in the windows dir. This app has more possibilities than the standard file explorer. Just save your songs you need for ringtones on your main mem (windows/rings) and move all other songs to your SD card. Sorry, kinda wasted right now, just got home at 4.30 AM after "some" drinking, so I might not make much sense, but I might be more clear later on after some sleep...

Ran out of memory already?

Hi All,
This is my second day with the phone, and i've already ran out of memory.
I have installed facebook panel and slideshow panel and google maps. That's all.
I've sent a couple of emails and received a few texts.
My stats show:
Storage:
Total 283.20 MB
In Use 283.20 MB
Free 0.00 MB
Program:
Total 200.48
In Use 74.82
Free 125.66
Any idea how I can free up some room?

Have you been browsing alot? If so clear out your cache.

Yes, i've been browsing a lot. Mainly facebook in the evenings. I've cleared out the Opera and IE cache... still maxed out though...

Also, there is 24MB (approx) worth of music installed in the stock rom. see my documents\my music

thanks for the reply. I will make sure i delete it all!
Also, do i need to regularly delete text messages to ensure i save space?

Amnesia180 said:
thanks for the reply. I will make sure i delete it all!
Also, do i need to regularly delete text messages to ensure i save space?
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Text messges take up next to nothing unless you have thousands?
I really don't know why you have so much mem taken up on your handset. I have the same installed as you along with TomTom, G-Alarm, Finger Keyboard 2 etc and I have about 103 Mb free. There must be something going wrong somewhere. Do you have all pics and movies shot with the cam getting stored on the MicroSD? Is something installed on your MicroSD saving on your internal memory maybe?

Vids
I don't know about you but on my Voda UK Xperia there was almost 50MB of vids too on the internal memory, (A James Bond trailer and some jazz vids) I got rid of those. Removed the crappy music that was on there, deleted some of the images in the pictures folder.
Even after over a month and with all my apps installed to the internal memory, blackstone volume, taskmanager, mp3trimmer, dialer and even some custom mp3 ringtones, I STILL have 139.20MB free.
Edit: P.S. and you storage is actually a bit larger than mine: Mine only registers at 277.85MB total. My program memory is hte same though, 200.48Mb.

wow, max out the phone storage~

Well, it's sorted. I restarted the phone, which took it down by 1mb or so which gave me enough memory to start clicking programs.
I think it is because I went to the youtube website and it started buffering a video via the 3G connection (that is when the problem started).
I deleted all the temp internet files and it's corrected itself now (i hope).

Install stuff on the memory card, perhaps? Leave the faster internal mem for cache stuff hehe

where is all my storage mem?

I tried to install something earlier and got an error about the amount of storage available.
so I checked.
Storage
Total 181.60
In Use 159.53!!!!
Free 22.07
Program
Total 336.97
In Use 163.13
Free 173.84
I've checked for large files using storage memory and they total less than 20MB...so what the hell is using all my storage mem??

I wonder if it's all being used up in like cache or something, if you use the facebook albums feature I've seen a folder somewhere where it's storing the phtotos you view I think.
Im surprised there's no option to clear the cache of downloaded items etc even if this isnt the cause of your missing space.

twisted-pixel said:
I tried to install something earlier and got an error about the amount of storage available.
so I checked.
Storage
Total 181.60
In Use 159.53!!!!
Free 22.07
Program
Total 336.97
In Use 163.13
Free 173.84
I've checked for large files using storage memory and they total less than 20MB...so what the hell is using all my storage mem??
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I had the same thing happen to me. Check your "my documents" folder. Somehow my storage card documents got copied over to the internal storage. This was not something I did. It just happened.

nope, checked the my documents folder. nothing much in there.
I can't understand what is taking up the storage space

perhaps I've found it.....I have activesync sync'd to my exchange at work, so perhaps all my emails are taking the space. All I kow id I never had this problem with my HD...I always had lots of storage available

if you haven't done too many tweaks...then a hard reset is your best friend.

I noticed a chunk of memory disappearing today and looked into it with MemMaid - I think my Albums cache (under Application Data-HTC-HTC Album-Cache) seems to have bloated in size after my browsing some pictures - there is 27mb of data in there, all with today's date. You wouldn't care if the device wasn't tight for memory in the fist place, but what the hell is the point of an album cache that's a good percentage of the size of the original files!
Two other things could also have a bearing:
Mail - unlikely, but depends on your settings
One Note files - again unlikely, but could be if you have it set to sync

so, I did some exploring and stuff..and still can't find where it has all gone
Total 190
Used 151
Left 39
Recycle Bin 4.1Mb
App Data 10Mb
Music 1Mb
My Doc 7.6Mb
Prog Files 40.7Mb
Other files 4.7Mb
makes a total of 68.1MB
I've checked for hidden files....none...
so somewhere there is 80MB of files that I can't find!!..
I don't really want to do a hard reset, but I might have to just to see what my memory is from stock. I can't believe I've lost that much though...

ok..forced to do the hard reset...
181.60 Total
64.75 in Use
116.84 Free
64 seems like a lot in use when I haven't even installed anything yet!

Opera Cache
Have you tried deleting your cache in Opera, if you use it? I was running very low on memory, deleted my browsing/download cache within Opera and freed up about 70MB of space! Must have been temporary downloads and stuff.

ok..forced to do the hard reset...
181.60 Total
64.75 in Use
116.84 Free
64 seems like a lot in use when I haven't even installed anything yet!
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You did not,but HTC did..................

Is there any solution to transfer temporary files and cache files locations to storage card? Some Opera registry settings maybe...

Yes, you can set the location of the cache via opera:config

Hi, can you expand on that a little please Gustopher? I wasn't aware that I could move the opera cache to the memory card? Can you point me the in the direction of where I could do that as I've looked around and can't find the option.
Thanks

No worries:
Open Opera
In the address bar enter 'opera:config' (nothing else, no quotes)
The Opera Preferences Editor should open
Scroll down to 'User Prefs' and click it
Scroll down to 'Cache Directory4' and edit it to read something like '\Storage Card\OperaCache' (doesn't matter what you call the folder on the Storage Card
Scroll down to the bottom of the 'User Prefs' section and click 'Save'
Confirm the prompt and you should be in business
You almost certainly will need to close and restart Opera, but I don't think you need a soft reset
Use a file explorer to check that Opera is writing to your directory
Hope this helps

Gustopher said:
No worries:
Open Opera
In the address bar enter 'opera:config' (nothing else, no quotes)
The Opera Preferences Editor should open
Scroll down to 'User Prefs' and click it
Scroll down to 'Cache Directory4' and edit it to read something like '\Storage Card\OperaCache' (doesn't matter what you call the folder on the Storage Card
Scroll down to the bottom of the 'User Prefs' section and click 'Save'
Confirm the prompt and you should be in business
You almost certainly will need to close and restart Opera, but I don't think you need a soft reset
Use a file explorer to check that Opera is writing to your directory
Hope this helps
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yes works.
thank you.

Thanks a lot Gustopher, that's working great! It might be an idea to re-direct other stuff to the storage card too, like emails/attachments etc.. if that's possible, to preserve phone storage space...

You can certainly redirect attachments - must be done through the Inbox settings though.
However, unless someone has found a way in the meantime, you appear not to be able to redirect mail using the registry tweaks in common circulation.
For reasons I haven't yet got to the bottom of, either the mail app is quick to load or the Storage Card is slow to load on the HD2. As a result, when the HD2 tries to find the mail folder on the Storage Card it can't as the physical Storage Card hasn't been mounted yet. It therefore creates a virtual version of the Storage Card by creating a folder on the device and naming it 'Storage Card'.
When the real Storage Card is mounted a few moments later, the device calls it 'Storage Card2' and all programmes previously installed on the Card no longer work

Yes, all very technical. When you say that you can re-direct attachments you mean physically selecting where you want to save a file once downloaded or is there If there of automatically saving downloads to a specific folder without having to select it yourself every time? I hope you're with me?!!
In the meantime, if a method of saving emails to storage card becomes available, be sure to post it here if you can. Thanks for your help.

Being picky, attachments and downloads aren't the same thing. I'm talking about stuff attached to emails - if you open it and save it off somewhere else, that's a different matter.
To have your email attachments saved to the Card, open Inbox, click Menu-Tools-Options and select the Storage tab at the bottom. Tick the options that says 'When available use this Storage Card...'

179mb of 181mb of device memory used

Hi folks, I am having alerts displayed warning me that device memory is critically low. I have tried going through all sorts of files in explorer but can find nothing to free up memory.
Any tips?

Welcome on this forum
I had the same problem with only 0.04 free memory !!!
I solved it by deleting some cache, like Opera cache...

pfedestarke said:
Hi folks, I am having alerts displayed warning me that device memory is critically low. I have tried going through all sorts of files in explorer but can find nothing to free up memory.
Any tips?
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do you happen to install a bunch of programs? Open up task manager and see how many are running in the background.

Open up task manager [...]
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I suppose he's talking about storage memory, not about program memory..

Many thanks. I am now at 169mb / 181mb. This still seems low. What do your HD2's run at?
This is my first HTC and have got to say i love it. It frustrates me at times but then that's all part of the ownership experience I suppose.
Thanks for the welcome guys

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What do your HD2's run at?
Thanks for the welcome guys
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You're welcome !
I didn't understand very well your question ? Do you ant the list of all programs I've isntalled on my Leo ?

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You're welcome !
I didn't understand very well your question ? Do you ant the list of all programs I've isntalled on my Leo ?
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No, I just wondered what memory was being used on your device compared to mine. Device storage

It's not the memory that is low it's the storage space so it's kind of pointless to compare it with someone else.

Stockage
- Total : 176.62 Mo
- Used : 146.69 Mo
- Free : 29.93 Mo
Program
- Total : 336.93 Mo
- Used : 189.80 Mo
- Free : 147.13 Mo

Try Importing any photos and videos using activesync. It worked for me, don't know why though

I went to delete cache etc from my phone but I cannot find where it is stored in file explorer... Can someone point me in the right direction?

You have to go into Opera and delete the cache from the settings in the software, the cache file is probably hidden.

mine were in [SD CARD]\Opera\Cache
I've deleted the full fodler and create again one.

Hello,
I have...
Storage
Total: 180.11
Used: 167.49
Free: 12.62
Program
Total: 336.93
Used: 173.36
Free: 163.56
I have cleared my cache in Opera and Explorer as detailed in above posts, I have next to nothing in My Documents on the device, and I have no programs running, so where is around 150 MB of my device storage being used?
I have even moved all of the pre-installed items from My Documents to my storage card. I get the pop-up message about freeing up some space quite often, each time I try something else to delete but I'm running out of obvious things to get rid of now!!
Any more ideas?
Is there a place I can go and look at the section set by for storage, rather than just all the files on my device?

facebook thumbnails, twitter thumbnails, album cache, internet cache, attachments from emails etc all could use up internal storage memory.

I had this same problem and found that it was the emails and attachments that took up all the room once I deleted all the old emails (about 70 emails in total) this cleared loads of memory, part of the problem is that some had large attachments.
Hope this helps

Move the opera cache and HTC Album cache to SD card
You can move both the Opera cache file and the HTC Album cache permanently to the storage card. Then you will find you have a lot more room in your storage memory.
Look in this thread (page 6 I think) for the cab for HTC Album cache http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600578 and this thread for how to move the Opera cache to storage card from within Opera:config http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601475&highlight=opera+cache

creed said:
You can move both the Opera cache file and the HTC Album cache permanently to the storage card. Then you will find you have a lot more room in your storage memory.
Look in this thread (page 6 I think) for the cab for HTC Album cache http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600578 and this thread for how to move the Opera cache to storage card from within Opera:config
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Thanks for the help, I'll give this a go later!

How come some people have lower total storage? Like the OP I have 181.23 MB total as well.

I copied the copilot folder from program files on the device onto the storage card. That saved me a pretty amount of memory
(It merges the 2 copilot folders, and you need to have to recreate the application shortcut manually, but no biggie).

Htc 2 internal memory !!

Hi there. Just wondering if anyone has a solution to resolving my internal memory situation, my phone keeps telling that the internal memory in critically low, I've deletes all my messages, most of my pictures bar the odd few that were sent to me from some hot chick, and I mean really hot!! sorry as I was saying, I deleted almost everything and I still keep on getting this message popping up. Does anyone know what I need to do, and also would it be advisable to save my message and everything else to the SD card automatically once it's sorted?
Cheers

try ClearTemp,
if you want some insight into storage load, try MemMaid - it has nice 'Storage usage' tab, to quote:
See where your storage memory is consumed, explore those directories using the system file explorer (or your own custom explorer) or compare the directories size using MemMaid's charts
(app is commercial, but this feature should work on trial version)

Take a look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
65. + 67 are two hints off the top of my head.

Go to My Device\Application Data\HTC\HTC Album and delete the contents of the folder and the Cache folder. You can get 20 meg + in there quite easily.
If you don't use WM default ringtones you can delete My Device\Windows\Rings that will save you 6 meg.
My Device\My Documents\My Wallpapers will save you 3 meg.
And using Clear Temp is a very good idea, make sure all of your photos are being saved on the SD card.
Installing programs to your SD card also, some will by default save to the system device like some of the HD2 games.
You can also just force-delete some of the programs on your HD2 that you don't use by going to My Device\Program Files, taking out the ones that are installed by default with your networks ROM is a good idea.
And if you haven't already, flashing a custom ROM will reduce your OS's footprint even further, I can get ~165 meg of free storage from Energy ROMs following the steps above after flashing a new ROM, that's only ~35 meg of memory used by the system, instead of ~60 meg from your network providers ROM.