DirectPush - Send, Recieve Folders - but no email!! - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Hi,
I have setup Direct Push on our Exchange servers and setup my Qtek 9100 to DirectPush from it.
I recieve the folder structure
It tells me how many emails need downloading
I can SEND emails
But it doesnt bring any emails down!!
Can anyone help??

Email
I seem to be having this EXACT same issue. I cannot figure out what is failing.

Hmmm.. I am not at all sure, but I have an idea. If you go to activesync on the phone, and then go to configure server (under the menu right softkey), and then hit next and next again, you should see the screen with the things you are syncing... contacts/calendar/email/taskes, ect... If you then click on email, the settings button sould un-grey. Click settings. Change "Include the previous" and "limit email size" to "all", and then hit the "ok" in the upper right corner, and then finish. Hit the left softkey for sync, and it should get all of your email from the server... I have no way of knowing if this is indeed your problem, but I thought it may be worth a try... I would be interested to know if it works!

I have seen someone with exactly the same problem which I couldn't solve.
Are you by any chance running Microsoft SmallBusinessServer 2003 and Microsoft ISA 2004 :?:
Eman

We are running ISA Server...
Does everyone have this problem with Qtek or is it universal? I was going to try update ROM because you cant change account settings once you put them in, they grey out! But the ROM on Qtek seems a lower number than that I have installed... and Im not entirely sure what a ROM update does.
I have selected ALL on everything, just the number of emails to download increases... say 500 it displays 0/500 then 125/500 then disappears, still no email or anything!!

Just tried updating ActiveSync to 4.2 on a HP 6915...
Same problem...!!
HELP

Issues
Ok, here is what I've learned (which isn't much) so far:
I'm using a T-Mobile MDA with the stock firmware. I am trying to connect to Exchange Server 2003. I've seen the server options grey out as well, but the trick I've used is to configure the server options in Active Sync on the pc you have it connected to. The Windows Mobile version of Active Sync doesn't seem to play as nice at times.
Starcruzier--
Thanks for the suggestion, but I have tried that as well. I actually went through the same steps with a T-Mobile SDA on trial as well. When I do the steps that you outlined on both devices, I actually pull down all the mail...but I get no new messages as they come (and I did configure the SMS to send "As they arrive".
I'm starting to think this is more of an issue with either Active Sync, Exchange, or how T-Mobile handles push email from Exchange.

I honestly dunno about qtec, I have a T-mobile MDA. I am running rom version 2.26.10.WWE (just upgraded...) and I am using the Microsoft Direct Push (no SMS required... ) What rom are you using, and are you using the direct push or the SMS method (as I believe they work differently...) You can get the rom I have from a link in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=57554
although it is customized for T-mobile....

Question
I have a T-Mobile MDA as well. Star...did you get push email working with the stock ROM on the device?

Nope, when I got it push email was not supported by the default rom, and so I upgraded. I recently got a new one because the old one broke, but I believe that I upgraded this one before I tried to setup the push, so I dunno if it is supported by the default rom, or how well this works... hope this helps...

Starcruiser1229 said:
Nope, when I got it push email was not supported by the default rom, and so I upgraded. I recently got a new one because the old one broke, but I believe that I upgraded this one before I tried to setup the push, so I dunno if it is supported by the default rom, or how well this works... hope this helps...
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That's easy to find out - in ActiveSync on the device, set the schedule to "as items arrive". If you've got AKU2 on the device, it should NOT ask you for a unique device address.
You can also make sure by going into settings > system > about; my OS shows as "OS 5.1.195 (Build 14955.2.3.0). Afaik, that means I have AKU 2.3 on the device. You need at least AKU 2 for DirectPush to work. Oh, and Exchange 2003 SP2 on the server.

Did everyone else just setup DirectPush and recieve emails straight away, or is it just me with the problem?
Does ISA effect it??

ellisjacklin said:
Did everyone else just setup DirectPush and recieve emails straight away, or is it just me with the problem?
Does ISA effect it??
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If you get the folder structure, ISA should not be the problem. And yes, DirectPush works right away; if you have AKU 2.x on the device and when connecting to the server it determines that the server supports DirectPush, it should work at once.
Of course, DirectPush can be disabled in the Exchange System Administrator console. That would explain the effects you are experiencing.

Do you mean the tickbox 'Enable DirectPush' in Exchange Manager?
This is enabled on the Front End and main Exchange servers..

ellisjacklin said:
Do you mean the tickbox 'Enable DirectPush' in Exchange Manager?
This is enabled on the Front End and main Exchange servers..
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Yes, that's the one I meant. Did you increase the timeout on the ISA server to 1800 seconds (30 minutes)? Does it work with other Windows Mobile devices? Does your mobile operator maybe not support persistent connections?

I have just set this for Outgoing and Incoming to 1800.
Tried my PDA and it still does the same thing, shows me how many it needs to download (which is nice) and then decides not to download them.
Vodafone (provider) tell me as long as Internet APN is active, which it is, it should be fine.

ellisjacklin said:
I have just set this for Outgoing and Incoming to 1800.
Tried my PDA and it still does the same thing, shows me how many it needs to download (which is nice) and then decides not to download them.
Vodafone (provider) tell me as long as Internet APN is active, which it is, it should be fine.
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Somewhere in ActiveSync, you can set the debug level to "verbose". Does it tell you any more when you set it that way? Also, on the backend Exchange Server (where your mailbox resides), check the entries in the IIS Log (%systemroot%\system32\Logfiles\w3svc1\exYYMMDD.log - assuming it runs in the default Web Site, else w3svc1 will be something else). Do you have IIS Lockdown installed on the server? What happens if you sync manually, does that work? In the settings of the user (Active Directory Users and Computers), are the Exchange features pertaining to Active Sync activated?

I have set this to Verbose, cant see any effects of it though..?
If I sync manually, it tells me what there is to download, doesnt download them, then goes again and does 0/1 on everything. And ends seemingly normal bringing nothing down.
I have lots of log entries relating to the GET and PROPFIND from ActiveSync in the log but I cant see anything displaying a problem.. everything seems to be communicating but just not bringing down the emails..
User Enabled Syncronisation is set against the user on AD.

ellisjacklin said:
I have set this to Verbose, cant see any effects of it though..?
If I sync manually, it tells me what there is to download, doesnt download them, then goes again and does 0/1 on everything. And ends seemingly normal bringing nothing down.
I have lots of log entries relating to the GET and PROPFIND from ActiveSync in the log but I cant see anything displaying a problem.. everything seems to be communicating but just not bringing down the emails..
User Enabled Syncronisation is set against the user on AD.
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After enabling verbose and trying one sync, what does it show when you hit "view status" in ActiveSync? Also, is it possible that you have policies in Exchange 2003 in place and your device is not compliant (e.g. no/too short password)?

Ive tried Verbose and no error is displayed, everything ends normal on Sync.
It is strange that you can send emails from the device no problems, so I assume the device is compliant. I have tried a HP PDA and have the same problem.

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OMA Push Email: asking for a SMS address, thats not right...

Ok I just want to be sure of something. I am trying to configure PUSH email with the 2.16 ROM and Exchange SP2.
However, I keep getting a message that says to synchronize itesm as they arrive, I must supply the delivery address. And then its looking for a SMS (text) message address.
Is this out OMA really works, isnt WM5 and OMA supposed to just be automatice with no SMS text messages, needed
Nope that is not how it works. That is regular Exchange 2003. You may not have the push option turned on. In ESM ,Global Setting - Mobile, right click and select properties. Check that Push Mail is enabled.
By default my device set to As Items Arrive on the first sync. So it must detect the server is capable when it first syncs. I configured ActiveSync from the device first not ActiveSync on the computer. Not sure if that matters!
texastech31 said:
Nope that is not how it works. That is regular Exchange 2003. You may not have the push option turned on. In ESM ,Global Setting - Mobile, right click and select properties. Check that Push Mail is enabled.
By default my device set to As Items Arrive on the first sync. So it must detect the server is capable when it first syncs. I configured ActiveSync from the device first not ActiveSync on the computer. Not sure if that matters!
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please clarify. is "ESM ,Global Setting - Mobile" server settings or on device?
lpasq said:
texastech31 said:
Nope that is not how it works. That is regular Exchange 2003. You may not have the push option turned on. In ESM ,Global Setting - Mobile, right click and select properties. Check that Push Mail is enabled.
By default my device set to As Items Arrive on the first sync. So it must detect the server is capable when it first syncs. I configured ActiveSync from the device first not ActiveSync on the computer. Not sure if that matters!
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please clarify. is "ESM ,Global Setting - Mobile" server settings or on device?
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ESM ,Global Setting - Mobile refers to a setting in Exchange System Manager on the Exchange Server, so this setting is for the Exchange Admins to change. I enabled Push Mail on my Exchange Server as soon as i installed SP2 and as soon as i started using the 2.16 i-mate rom the email was immediately pushed to the K-JAM, no extra configuration required from manual sync
Now all i need is A2DP but thats for another thread :wink:

PushMail with Exchange

Hi!
I just got PushMail activated on our company Exchange server and sychronising now works great, contacts, email etc. I do however got this annoying problem that mail shows up like 10 minutes after they have been sent and recieved at the server (I checked in Outlook and the mail had arrived) starting synchronizing manually or just hitting "send and recieve" in pocketoutlook immiedetly finds and downloads the new e-mail. If I wat about 10 minutes the mail shows up as well, but is this really how it should work isn't push mail all about the mail coming in the moment it's sent?
Push Mail is activated in my comm manager...
Any ideas?
Best Regards, Olle
Olleman said:
Any ideas?
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Yes, wait for a new ROM. Hopefully will be fixed then...
I have the same problem. Testet the server with MTeoR and 9100, they get the email direct, without the 10 minutes delay.
Go to ActiveSync --> Menu --> Schedule...
Change the settings in "Peak times" and "Off-peak times" to "As items arrive" instead of "Every 10 minutes".
Olleman said:
Hi!
I just got PushMail activated on our company Exchange server and sychronising now works great, contacts, email etc. I do however got this annoying problem that mail shows up like 10 minutes after they have been sent and recieved at the server (I checked in Outlook and the mail had arrived) starting synchronizing manually or just hitting "send and recieve" in pocketoutlook immiedetly finds and downloads the new e-mail. If I wat about 10 minutes the mail shows up as well, but is this really how it should work isn't push mail all about the mail coming in the moment it's sent?
Push Mail is activated in my comm manager...
Any ideas?
Best Regards, Olle
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Hi Olle
I also have push e-mail enabled on my TyTN and I normally receive my mails just a bit before they arrive in my Outlook Inbox.
Can you check your ActiveSync schedule? Is it really set to "As Items Arrive" or have you set a frequency (every 5 or 10 minutes)?
Also, what ROM version are you using?
Regards
Andreas
Hi!
Thanks for your answers, I went through all the settings I could find before I posted and I do have active synch and sceduling set to "when items arrive" it was actully my default setting.
My ROM version is: 1.18.263.2
Swedish language.
I do too, as many others have the same problem with bluetooth stereo sound so I'm looking forward to a new ROM release, perhaps that will solve my 10 minutes delay as well - or could it be some setting on the server?
I have also noticed that my device definetley seems to draw more power with pushmail activated than what it did when I used IMAP4 and looked for new mail every 20 minutes. I always have my 3G/GPRS connection active since I've got flatrate on data.
,Olle
Could be your Operator's DHCP lease timeout policy that's getting you. You're describing exactly the push email situation that happens when your phone's IP address changes faster than the 7 minute heartbeat. Your description fits right down to the increased power consumption too btw. Try this: check your IP address every 5 minutes or so using www.myipaddress.com to see if its changing. If it is then there's your problem and you need to see if your operator has a plan that provides a DHCP lease timeout that's greater than 7 minutes.
Also, there's an A2DP solution too but it involves buying more headset hardware.....
hm...not that problem either, I seem to have the same IP number as long as my connection is active..
,Olle
Hi again,
hm....just to add some more information to the subject that perhaps will help someone to see what the problem is...
I tried setting the schedule to every 10 minutes and back again to "when object arrives" (I've got swedish language on the phone so I'm not sure about the exact phrase) to see if the setting somehow had "locked"....same result though. I did however find something peculiar, my phone is synching every 8 minutes the WHOLE time, I've never used push mail before but I assume that it shouldn't behave like that except if I do get an e-mail every 8 minutes - right?
It also says in active synch that it's synching "E-mail 0/1" every time but I seldome have a new mail after this "every 8 minute synch".
Ohh btw, about the A2DP thing, I don't really considder it a fix if one needs to buy new hardware, that's more like going around the problem. I've got the latest Sony Ericsson A2DP Stereo headset and the phone should definetley be able to use it.
Any ideas anyone ?
Best Regards, Olle
hi guys when setting up push mail, will it auto detect if server has latest service pack etc, as i have set mine up and dont have the option for 'as they arrive' under schedule only got manual,5m,10m etc
Hello,
I think you have a problem with the setup of your infra.
You need to :
*Configure your exchnage to enable Direst push
*Put an HTTP timeout of a least 15 minutes
Take care if you are using Microsoft ISA2000 you need to adapt registry key.
More info please visit www.httpsync.net
Cheers
Hi!
Thanks for your answer, by infra, I assume you mean the exchange server that I'm synching with? I'm leaning more and more towards this as well since all the settings on my phone seems correct and our server admin has just enabled push mail on our server and noone else is using it at our company but me yet.
Best Regards, Olle
Yes in fact enabling the push on the exchange side (or your mobile) is quite simple but some strange behaviour can occur...
ie: the direst push is based on http session that must be keep online during 15 minutes...
also the device receive at it FIRST configuration that the Exchange is able to perform direct push if at the time of the configuration the exchnage was not able to perform direct push you have a risk that you would never be inform of the capability so you need to reconfigure your device ...
ISA2000 is not able to relay (by default, without modifiyng the registry) the fatc that you exchange is Direct push enable...
your sysop will found many information on my website here upper.
André
Olleman said:
Hi!
Thanks for your answer, by infra, I assume you mean the exchange server that I'm synching with? I'm leaning more and more towards this as well since all the settings on my phone seems correct and our server admin has just enabled push mail on our server and noone else is using it at our company but me yet.
Best Regards, Olle
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Well, my TyTN is sync'ing every 8. minute aswell. But Push is working correctly with MTeoR and 9100 with the same Exchange server.
Guys has anyone got a step by step on setting up push, cause there seem to be options and things that some people leave out, My compnay is trying to test it to see if we should roll it out and microsoft just keep blowing their horn about how great it is and nothing on how to make it work!
Standard Tytn and standard exchange server, starting from scratch.
Also just a note that with the Tytn my boss has handed me and with it in it's current state the schedule option is greyed out, I would ideally like to reset and start again, but it is his one we are testing before we role out XDA mini-s's
EDIT:
OK, problem sorted, looks like the servers I was adding, if i clicked the adanced options it wouldn't save, so now, setting up of a server is done and is syncing.
EDIT; nope, still not syncing up although now I can press the sync button and it actually does something, takes ages , but says 'none' under last sync
Olleman, are you using Office 2007 as well?
I exited Outlook 2007 (beta) and it seems that the typical "syncronize every 8. minute"-thing has stopped.
EDIT: No I'm lying. It had no effect...
8 minute syncs mean the connection is being dropped between your PDA and your Exchange server. Every 7 minutes the PDA side heartbeat wakes up activesync and re-establishes the connection and AUTD syncs your mailbox. Exchange can't send email to you when it arrives because it can't signal your PDA's activesync and tell it to perform an AUTD operation because the existing connection is getting dropped. So it queues the request for the next time the connection gets established.
That being said, there are a number of things that could cause the connection to drop. Since your IP address appears to be stable, that isn't one of them and your next step is firewall timeouts. As has been stated earlier, if your Exchange system has an ISA as its front end then the heartbeat timeout has to be increased from its default value using the indicated links.
I actually implemented mine w/o an ISA by enabling http proxy on the front end server. So, the only device in my way is our Checkpoint firewall which has a 30 minute https timeout (no issues). You might also have to check your own firewall timeout settings for https (or http if, God forbid, that is your connection).
Also: the date and time are correct on your PDA right?
OK, now that I have the server there, thought it might work, but no go, can anyone give more details on what i should do?
Well, I have T-mobile and if I use the default t-mobile ROM. I can sync with all but email. I set up an exchange server without ssl so I can use the $4.99 tzones plan, (HTTP only). :lol:
Works fine if you hard reset and do not allow their ext rom crap to load by soft resetting after the hard reset.
Without their limited, BULL S*&##T, attempt at making more money by charging you extra just to use the Server Activesync functions, ,,, ya, stuff that is in WM5 and works fine by default, bastards.
:twisted:
Anyway, try to softreset after doing to pen alignment stuff, after a hard reset, before it loads the ext rom programs, and ServerActivesync will work, or use another ROM.
Settle down, Beavis :lol:

Direct Push - Connects & Syncs, but Inbox remains empty

I've searched and searched, but I can't seem to find anyone with this problem.
Basically, I'm trying to get my new Treo 750 to sync over wireless with my Exchange server. I run the Exchange server from my own house, on it's own domain. I've upgraded the Treo 750 to WM6. I previously did not try wireless sync on WM5. My Exchange server is 2003 SP2.
At first, I tried connecting via SSL only to get a message about the certificate not being valid. After fighting and fighting with trying to get the cert on the phone, I finally gave up and disabled SSL on the device in an attempt to connect.... via any means possible.
What I first thought was success has turned into another problem. I know I'm communicating with the server, as the policy from the domain controller made me set a device password. It was at that point that I knew I was getting somewhere. Now, when I hit "sync", I see it checking for changes. At the bottom of the screen, it'll run through each step: Contacts, Calendar, Email and Tasks.
Let me see if I can describe this..... It'll briefly pause at say... 0/80 for my Inbox, then count (very quickly, in large increments) till it hits the 80 and move on to the next item in the synchronization list. This cycle restarts after 5-10 seconds.
When I go to look in my Inbox, it's empty. The only thing I see is at the bottom: "Outlook E-mail 0 Items". Same with Contacts, Calendar, etc...
Now here's the kicker. If I send myself a test email from an outside account... say, Gmail, the sync app will then show "Email 0/81", then tick up to 81 and move on to the next item. However, nothing is downloaded. I can pull up a list of all the personalized folders I've created for my mailstore, and they're all there. I can "subscribe" to them, yet they remain empty as well.
I'm completely at a loss. I don't know what else to do at this point, and it's proving to be a difficult thing to search for. Any advice you can give would be very much appreciated....
As I said, this sync thing is happening pretty much non-stop. It'll rotate through the 4 steps (email, contacts, calendar, Tasks), wait a few seconds, then start it all over.
I've noticed that no other net apps work while this is happening. I actually have to go into ActiveSync and hit stop. After that, net applications (IM, PIE, Opera, etc...) work just fine.
Here is a (truncated) log from the device.
That looks pretty similar to the log I get from my device when I ActiveSync to Exchange. Jave you tried doing a backup and then hard resetting? I find that DirectPush is very finnicky with when it does and doesn't work but may just be my server.
Actually, to completely eliminate the device, I setup the MS WM6 emulator from a computer on an outside network. I got exactly the same thing as on the device. That pretty much tells me it's something on the server.
Here's another tidbit that might help. Before getting this phone, I setup BES Express on my Exchange server. I had problems with it working at first, and read through several guides before I had permissions working right. To this end, I made a lot of permissions-based changes on the Exchange server.
Could this be a permissions issue? How can I check if the permissions are correct?
Ok here's your problem, running another MAPI client on an Exchange server is NEVER a good idea. If you shut down the BES services and then reboot the server, what happens? Also, have you tried checking the Exchange Server event viewer for any info on what's happening server side?
Urthwhyte said:
Ok here's your problem, running another MAPI client on an Exchange server is NEVER a good idea. If you shut down the BES services and then reboot the server, what happens? Also, have you tried checking the Exchange Server event viewer for any info on what's happening server side?
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Very good point. I hadn't even consider that. I don't even need it anymore.
That being said, what is the best way to go about uninstalling BES Express w/o jacking up the rest of the Exchange system? Also, have you ever actually heard of this causing the problem I'm experiencing? You sound pretty darn certain when you say: "Ok here's your problem". Each time I find or come up with a possible solution, it never seems to make a difference. Sure, my Exchange installation is "cleaner" and more standardized with each solution I try, but it never resolved the issue.
If you can provide me a decent guide or recommendation for uninstalling BES, I would appreciate it. Unless you have some better tips, I'm using these two pages as guides:
Perform a clean uninstall of the BlackBerry Enterprise Server
How to uninstall and re-install BlackBerry Enterprise Server on the same computer with minimal disruption
Ok, stopped all the services, uninstalled BES, deleted all related program directories, and removed all associated registry keys. Logged out of BESAdmin account and removed it from Active Directory.
I did all this from Remote Desktop, so the only thing left to do is reboot the server. I could do it remotely through command line, but it has a habit of freezing up during shut down (it's been doing it for years, doesn't seem to harm a thing). So I won't be able to reboot until I get back in town tonight.... just in case it freezes.
I have a few questions, though. Do I need to make any changes to MAPI (remove, stop, change, etc...)? I still need IMAP access for remote relatives, but I'm gonna get rid of that soon once I get them setup through the VPN.
Anything else I should remove/change?
Oh yeah, just for ****s and giggles, I tried synching again, both with the actual Treo 750 and also with a WM6 emulator on the remote server. I've also tried running the WM6 emulator from the same network as the Exchange server, just to eliminate the firewall, as Direct Push only seems to use ports 80 or 443, depending on whether you have SSL enabled or not.
Correct me if I'm wrong about the firewall ports.
Those are the same ports I have open, but much like yourself (and correct me if I'm wrong) just a casual Sysadmin. While I'm not entirely certain if BES is your issue, I'm inclined to think it may be a MAPI collision between the two. I haven't used BES myself so I can't really advise on the best method to uninstall, but I had a similar issue where my Outlook clients couldn't connect when I installed Outlook on the Exchange server. On another note, why set up VPN when you could just configure RPC over HTTP if you're running the server on Win2k3, it's probaly cut my support calls with users by aboyt 25%. If you'd like I can give you access to a server to compare it to, just PM me if you think that'd help.
I just saw that you also had IMAP open, that's definetly not going to be causing the issue, as I also have that running on my server and have people using it at this very minute. Also, have you tried checking on your device if you go into ActiveSync>Right Softkey>Options and then checking that the boxes besides Contacts, Calendars, Tasks, etc... are checked? I know it's stupid, but I've had issues like that before where I couldn't figure it out for the life of me.
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Those are the same ports I have open, but much like yourself (and correct me if I'm wrong) just a casual Sysadmin. While I'm not entirely certain if BES is your issue, I'm inclined to think it may be a MAPI collision between the two. I haven't used BES myself so I can't really advise on the best method to uninstall, but I had a similar issue where my Outlook clients couldn't connect when I installed Outlook on the Exchange server. On another note, why set up VPN when you could just configure RPC over HTTP if you're running the server on Win2k3, it's probaly cut my support calls with users by aboyt 25%. If you'd like I can give you access to a server to compare it to, just PM me if you think that'd help.
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I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think Direct Push uses MAPI at all, so I'm pretty sure it can't be a "MAPI collision", so to speak. I was able to completely remove BES w/o any issues. I rebooted the computer last night, just to be sure, and I'm still showing the same problem. ActiveSync connects and looks like it's synchronizing, but in the end, nothing is actually downloaded from my phone.
I really believe it has something to do with permissions. I say this, because I had a very difficult time getting BES to work. I had to mess with a lot of permissions to get mail flowing to my Blackberry. I can't be sure that I didn't goof something up in the process.
With that being said, everything else works just fine. I can use OMA. I can use OWA either HTTP or SSL (forms-based authentication disabled, of course). I can connect without issue from IMAP, or directly via Exchange over VPN, etc...
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I just saw that you also had IMAP open, that's definetly not going to be causing the issue, as I also have that running on my server and have people using it at this very minute. Also, have you tried checking on your device if you go into ActiveSync>Right Softkey>Options and then checking that the boxes besides Contacts, Calendars, Tasks, etc... are checked? I know it's stupid, but I've had issues like that before where I couldn't figure it out for the life of me.
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I have tried that. I've also tried changing the settings for email from 3 days, to all the other options. It will change the amount of emails ActiveSync "sees", but they still do not download to the phone.
Oh yeah, as far as RPC over HTTP goes, it's one of those "I've always used..." things.
What are the advantages of RPM over HTTP?
I'm not quite sure it's a permissions issue, because as far as I know ActiveSync only uses the standard exchange accounts/services,+ a few virtual directories. What you can try doing is deleting the ActiveSync virtual directory, and then restarting the IIS and Exchange System Attendant services and see if that helps.
RPC over HTTP alleviates the need to have to login to a VPN to check email, it also makes it much easier to configure the client, as they only have to enter their Username+Password and enter the FQDN of the server.
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I'm not quite sure it's a permissions issue, because as far as I know ActiveSync only uses the standard exchange accounts/services,+ a few virtual directories. What you can try doing is deleting the ActiveSync virtual directory, and then restarting the IIS and Exchange System Attendant services and see if that helps.
RPC over HTTP alleviates the need to have to login to a VPN to check email, it also makes it much easier to configure the client, as they only have to enter their Username+Password and enter the FQDN of the server.
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I deleted the ActiveSync virtual dir (which actually had a much longer name), as well as the OMA virtual dir.
Now I get this message when I try to connect. I guess I need some help on rebuilding it now... heh.
As for RPC over HTTP... brainfart. I knew what it is, but I wanted access to remote shares.
As far as permissions go, I'm pretty sure it's not the problem as well. I just created a brand new user and had the same thing happen.
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I deleted the ActiveSync virtual dir (which actually had a much longer name), as well as the OMA virtual dir.
Now I get this message when I try to connect. I guess I need some help on rebuilding it now... heh.
As for RPC over HTTP... brainfart. I knew what it is, but I wanted access to remote shares.
As far as permissions go, I'm pretty sure it's not the problem as well. I just created a brand new user and had the same thing happen.
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Did you try stopping and then starting the Exchange System Attendant and IIS services, the folders should come back automatically. If all else fails, reboot and see if the folders come back.
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Did you try stopping and then starting the Exchange System Attendant and IIS services, the folders should come back automatically. If all else fails, reboot and see if the folders come back.
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I know that trick, but if there is anything wrong in the metabase, it will not be overwritten.
I'll be using this guide to completely blast out and rebuild all the owa-related folders:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883380/en-us
Ok, I rebuilt everything using Method 2 in the above-linked guide.
Now, I'm getting support code 0x85010014
This pages says the cause is SSL being enabled on the main site, but it's definitely not. There are other vdir pages that have SSL enabled, but none of the default MS dirs... only personal ones I created for other things.
http://www.messagingtalk.org/content/479.html
Is there any chance that you have FBA enabled, if you do theres supposed to be some way that you can trick ActiveSync to use a different folder or something. It wasn't really worth it to me, so I just ended up disabling it.
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Is there any chance that you have FBA enabled, if you do theres supposed to be some way that you can trick ActiveSync to use a different folder or something. It wasn't really worth it to me, so I just ended up disabling it.
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That's the thing. I don't even have a certificate on the site right now. I got rid of the self-issued one, and now I'm waiting on my GoDaddy one. So I don't have FBA enabled. That's why that messages seems so weird...
Hmm, that's odd. I got the same error when I first configure ActiveSync, but now I forget what I did to resolve it. Also, is there any chance you have some sort of IM application, such as Google Talk or AIM? It's a bit easier to resolve these things if you can have a more back and orth communication then a orum post.

Outlook sync via Outlook Web Access without using web browser?

Hi
I used to be able sync to my work Outlook email via ActiveSync / Outlook Mobile Access (OMA). However, yesterday my work IT department disabled OMA on my Exchange server as they do not support anything other than the blackberry. Despite my protestation they are refusing to re-enable OMA. This leaves me with a big issue!
Does anyone on here know of a third party application that can sync outlook emails and calander using Outlook Web Access (OWA)?
I have found an application called Chronobis which is able to sync from OWA but only one way i.e. deleted items on Chronobis will not delete from my Outlook inbox and calendar appointments added won't sync to my outlook calander (or so I believe). Whilst this is a good start it really doesn't get me to where I need to be.
I am desperate to sync my work outlook emails to my new HTC HD2 (its the main reason I got it)!
Anyone got any other ideas / know of any other applications?
Would really appreciate any suggestions.
Thanks in advance.
Yes, you can use a service called Seven.
Thanks for your response.
I've had a look and it seems this could do the job! Seems that the only way to get it was to join the beta programme which I've done but when I put my the vendor in it doesnt give me the HD2 as an option.
Any ideas what handset I should choose that will work with the HD2?!
I've also read compatibility issues with Manilla 2.5 in their forums. Has anyone managed to get this working successfully on an HD2? Also, are you able to move emails to your different folders using this app and have them sync with the exchange?
Is this the best / only app out there for my requirement?
Sorry for all the qus!
Thanks again.
ActiveSync uses OWA. Put in webmail server, username, password and works.
OWA still works, like afterburn said, i got my calendar, email and tsks to synch. lol now all my contacts are on my university email accounts, pretty cool tho.
no need for thirdparty, active sync does it.
dont know what OMA is. but what you want is exactly what OWA gives you.
dont set your owa using HCT SENSE/MANILA SETTINGS. do it through normal out look ad account way. HTC tick boxes for tasks, calendar and other stuff are greyed out and only email is available.
but on the standard outlook mobile all the settings are there.
need a run through of how to set it up?
Thanks for your responses guys.
OMA is office mobile outlook. It is a setting within the exchange server which either allows or disallows a mobile device to access emails through the mail app. Having OWA does not mean that you will be able to access your emails from a mobile device (except through the mobile browser).
Activesync uses OMA rather than OWA so at the moment I'm stuck!
As a result I need an app that syncs via OWA.
Seven seems to be able to do it but I could do with any answers to my qus above.
Happy to be proved wrong on this but one day it was all working fine and the next my exchage server settings had been changed and it stopped working.
Any exchange server admins on here who can confirm my thinking is correct?
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I've also read compatibility issues with Manilla 2.5 in their forums. Has anyone managed to get this working successfully on an HD2?
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I'm using Seven on HD2. There were compatibility problems with custom ROMs on other devices based on leaked Leo Manila.
Why don't you use Blackberry Connect on your Wm device? That way, you can sync the same way as Blackberry devices. Of course that requires you to have BB access rights, but since they are so BB happy, you may be able to get that.
You can get it here: http://www.htc.com/us/mobile/connect/8925/install/default.html
Of course it is not specific for the HD2, and I have no idea if it'll work, but it is worth a try.
BB connect sounds like a good idea, wasn't aware it was a possibility, thanks.
I actually have a BB from work so I know that I am set up for it. However, I work for a company that are very keen on security so there is no way they will give out the settings I would need (its set up by the IT department and then just given to you).
Is there any way to get the info / settings I need from my current blackberry? Ive had a look on it and can't see anything obvious.
Just checked through some documentation on BB connect and unfortunatley it requires that I install ActiveSync and BB Connect on a computer connected to my works network.
As I dont have admin rights on my work laptop I won't be able to do this (unless anyone knows how to install programs without being an administrator!).
Looks like Seven might be the bset solution!
Vangrieg, which handset did you choose to set up for the HD2?
Thanks
I admin an exchange server, the most common reason for OMA not working is if there isnt a valid ssl cert for the domain, but i can confirm that as you mentioned, it will deffo not work if mobile access is turned off on the user account (there are 2 seperate options for web and mobile access)
i dont see any decent reason why a server admin would disable it, he must be on a power trip or sommert!
Thanks lancemate.
Could the valid ssl cert be the reason even if others in my company are still able to access as before? Its only affecting me. I've set up one of my collegues mail accounts on my phone to see if it still worked and it did without any issues.
When I called IT they said they hadn't changed any of my settings so I had assumed that OMA was the issue. I asked them to check and to re-enable and they told me they were unwilling to even look at my settings!!! Our IT department has been moved to India which makes it even harder to get any help!
Could an ssl cert suddenly just expire?!
Is there anyway of me to get a valid ssl cert for the domain witout going through IT to see if this is the issue?!
Been doing some more research and want to see if getting an ssl certificate onto my phone will make it work. Absoloutely no idea if it will work but its the last thing I can think off!
Is it possible to download the SSL certificate from my OWA site?
If I double click on the padlock in the bottom left corner I can get the certificate details up on the "details" tab (although there are loads of files and I don't know what I'm looking at!). When I click "copy to file" the export wizard come up but I have no idea where to go from there!
Anyone able to offer any assistance please?
Also, I'm sure this is a stupid question but would I need to put this certificate on my phone or could I use a different one?!
Thanks
It cant be an SSL Cerificate issue if your Colleague's account works on your device.
It MUST be that OMA is disabled on your account or something else is horribly wrong. As mentioned above i cant see any reason why an Exchange administrator would disable OMA.
Can you connect to your account using activesync on a different device to check whether its the phone or settings on server side?
To help you with using Blackberry Connect as a possible solution here are some resources on how to run programs that require admin level on machines you havent been given admin rights to. Some methods cover your tracks completely and others simply let you create/amend and delete windows accounts and associated rights in whatever way you need.
i would suggest using the first link to create a bootable usb stick that loads a modified linux command prompt. You can then use this to give yourself local admin rights.
http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/
http://www.jms1.net/nt-unlock.shtml
http://internetbusinessdaily.net/how-to-hack-a-window-xp-admins-password/
I've tried to set up on 2 other phones, bith with no joy so I'm guessing its the server side rather than the phone.
Is there no way that its anything to do with the ssl certificate? Are they set up company rather than by user? Will my suggestion of putting a certificate on my phone definately not work (if I could even find out how to export it from OWA)?!
I also cant see why the OMA would have been diabled so thinking it must be something else!
Thanks
I share Gooner's concerns and look forward to finding a solution. 1) My company has not yet enabled mobile devices to sync via Outlook Web Access. 2) Blackberry Connect does not yet work on HD2. There is a thread for BBC on this very same forum.
I am confident that a solution will soon emerge for 1) and/or 2).
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It cant be an SSL Cerificate issue if your Colleague's account works on your device.
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Well, sometimes you need to install the certificate manually on your device to make it work. That's the case where I work - we use a self-signed certificate.
I use zarafa as a direct replacement for exchange, it syncs my emails,calendars, contacts etc.
It allows push email as well.
Hi JMes
After looking around I have found it appears that there are 2 services that will allow you to sync a mobile device using OWA, even if it is not set up for OMA.
Seven - Currently in beta but others have had success with this service on an HD2. I believe that it will sync Calendar, Tasks and Email.
Emoze - Also allows you to check outlook via OWA and offers a free service or a paid for service. Paid for service allows you to remove the "sent from emoze" tag allows attachemnts to be sent up to 2mb (rather than 100kb). Think it costs 10 euros a year.

Push email and Telstra HD2

Can anyone confirm that they receive their push email through Exchange server (via Activesync) instantly on their Tesltra HD2 (stock ROM) whilst using Tesltra's Mobile Email plan? I am only getting my email every 8 minutes (which appears to be a result of the server not allowing the connection to remain open for the duration of each exchange heartbeat). Tesltra says there is no fault on their side, HTC and my IT deptartment likewise deny responsibility!
Anybody? My last resort is to flash the ROM with a generic ROM and remove the Dedicated settings for Activesync that Telstra imposes.
tangiers said:
Anybody? My last resort is to flash the ROM with a generic ROM and remove the Dedicated settings for Activesync that Telstra imposes.
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If your organization's front firewall is configured to kill HTTP connections after they've been idle for a certain amount of time, that can cause a problem like this.
I know ISA 2006 (which I used to publish my personal Exchange) has a wizard for publishing Exchange, which allows the appropriate length of HTTP connection for ActiveSync.
Other firewalls may require more configuration...
Thanks Spike. That is my diagnosis too but the Exchange adminstrator keeps saying its Telstra's fault not theirs. I was hoping to see if anyone could tell me that Tesltra works fine on theirs to prove that it must be these settings that are wrong.
tangiers said:
Thanks Spike. That is my diagnosis too but the Exchange adminstrator keeps saying its Telstra's fault not theirs. I was hoping to see if anyone could tell me that Tesltra works fine on theirs to prove that it must be these settings that are wrong.
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Does your organization have any other [external] devices that use ActiveSync?
Don't know. I'm told that iPhone users aren't complaining but that doesn't mean they are using push email rather than pop.
tangiers said:
Don't know. I'm told that iPhone users aren't complaining but that doesn't mean they are using push email rather than pop.
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Does your organization support POP3 or IMAP4 against Exchange?
Most organizations do not.
I fixed the problem. I was using an owa.{domain}.com address for the server in Outlook on the phone. This address worked fine except for the emails only coming through every eight minutes. I changed the address by adding "/exchange" to the address and emails started coming through instantly, as push mail should. But it was shortlived. The phone kept chopping the "/exchange" part of the address and going back to the old problem. I then deleted the Outlook account and established the Excahnge partnership through the Mobile Device Centre with the phone connect via USB to a computer ON THE WORK DOMAIN. Before I set up the phone OTA / through a pc at home. This doesn't work. I think it has something to do with Exchange trusting a device that connects with USB to a PC in the work network rather than outside through the internet. All is working. No thanks to TELSTRA, HTC or the IT Department!!!!!

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