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T-mobile MDA Pro, No MSN apps?

I've just got the mda pro on tmobile on upgrade, silver verson, handset is excellent, but it doesnt seem to have any of the MSN apps pre-installed, like messenger, does anyone know where i can get these from?

Messenger can be bought from MS..
I preferr Agile Messenger myself..

Is this not suppose to be a default free application already installed?

T-Mobile made a deal with HTC to have MSN taken out, apparantly. I had an MDA Pro without MSN, and when I put on the Jasjar rom, I suddenly did have MSN

Right, so whats the difference between the tmobile ROM and the MDA rom? apart from the added MSN feature.

How do I flash my MDA with the Jasjar's rom?

Rather than risk flashing my MDA PRO with the JasJar ROM, I simply paid £10.50 to M$ and now have the full suite of MSN applications (Messenger, Hotmail integrated with pocket Outlook, etc) on my MDA PRO. When you buy it, it's activated on your "passport account" not the software itself - this means that you can install MSN on any other device in the future and won't have to pay for it again (as long as you sign in as you).
Disappointing yes, but there are too many "my JasJar is now a brick!!!" threads on this forum and that convinced me that flashing was a bad idea as this device is so new :lol:

Hi,
i made the upgarde and there were no problems att all. The msm software ist not the only difference, with the jasjar roms you´ll get skype, an anti-virus-solution and get rid of that grey / magenta look.
Oh, i forgot, i had serveral problems with wifi with the t-mobile roms ... with the jasjar roms wifi is very very easy and stable.
I made it and i am happy with it.
Superbowl

See the following thread for MDA pro rom upgrade details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29354

I work for a certain mobile provider, and have it on authority, that a ROM update is out in November for the PRO with MSN included, and the blackberry connect software for email

Cool, do you know where we will be able to download this from?
I think i can wait.

Hi
Anyone know if the downloadable Pocket MSN version @ MS is WM2005 compatible? It seems to be just 2003/SE:
http://mobile.msn.com/ac.aspx?cid=pmsn_market
Nigel

@veletron: yes, it is, you can run it on wm5.
cheers, lutz

I too had problems installing Pocket MSN on my MDA Pro (the activation process only seems to accept Hotmail-accounts, not generic e-mail addressed that can be your MSN/Passport account as on the PC-version of MSN Messenger).
Until MS resolves this issue, I downloaded and installed IM+ from
http://www.shapeservices.com/eng/im/PPC/
Seems to work fine in WM5, supports landscape just fine, has WM5-style notification "bubbles" when someone is speaking, however it lacks the use of the 2 WM5-style hardware buttons. So far, it seems to be the best MSN Messenger client for me, until I can use the "real thing" with my normal MSN account.

PocketMSN on MDA Pro

Hi,
I'm a very fanatic MSN Messenger User (wrote a few add-ons and helped on for example Messenger Plus!).
As a tech geek I also recently bought a T-Mobile MDA Pro, and am quite disappointed that it did not come with Pocket MSN pre-installed. An MVP assured me that it should come pre-installed, but it doesn't (and I blame T-Mobile ).
Although Agile and others are very good alternatives, I still believe the official client will be better, and refuse to believe otherwise untill I tried it
I know one method to get PocketMSN is to flash another ROM, like the I-Mate. However I don't think this is an option for a lot of people, as I think it breaks the warranty. Another method is to pay 14.95E to log in with a downloadable Pocket MSN, but as I have up to three addresses (some for testing purposes) and sometimes I need to troubleshoot some others, this is not an option either.
But I am not giving up! (yet)
I want to try if I can copy the files needed and get it to work anyway. I've already asked a friend with a HTC Wizard (MDA Vario) to help me on that, but I think it'd be better to copy the files from a Universal ROM.
So (finally ), I was hoping that someone could help me to browse the files present in the i-mate or qtek roms. Ideally I think the easiest would be by comparing the files in the i-mate, qtek, and mda pro roms, but as the mda pro ROM is unavailable, I think that'd be impossible

It comes preinstalled on the O2 ROM as well. Works fine, but lacks videoconferencing, regardless of built in hardware support...

Works fine? Do you have the problem where if you start it in landscape mode you only get a very small area of text until you flip the screen to potrait mode and back again? Or is that just me.... I have the o2 rom.

jwarbutron said:
Works fine? Do you have the problem where if you start it in landscape mode you only get a very small area of text until you flip the screen to potrait mode and back again? Or is that just me.... I have the o2 rom.
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On the MDA Pro ROM it isn't installed... at all

i have JJ and it works fine, but times out and disconnects itself.
if you tell me what files I need to get for you, I will copy. i have no idea how to extract out of the source .exe, but have it if you can tell me what to do and how to do it, but suspect there are better gurus around than me to do this.

Guys
There ave been a few threads on this already. T-Mobile in the UK (branded as MDA _Pro) do not offer the msn software. Initially i was a bit dissapointed when i got my MDA, however when i discovered Agile messenger i was very happy.
Agile supports mulitple formats, ICQ, AOL, MSN etc.. but better still for a mobile device with a per kb download charge it uses way less bw than the windows version. I also was pissed off about Mobile msn not supporting multiple accounts and also the paid for version will only support @hotmail or @msn accounts not @mydomain accounts.
Regards
Charlie

Does Agile support Videochat (preferably via wifi)?

Agile does not support video at the moment but there is another thread on the forum about the new version of agile for WM5. I think they are working on video support but if it will support that in version 1 beta or not is yet to be decided.

In the T-Mobile Germany ROM Update MSN Messenger is included. And it works fine!
I use now Agile Messenger and MSN Messenger. If you also want use ICQ, then Agile is better. MSN Messenger does not have so many features (e. g. no Emoticons, but Agile shows them correctly)
I wonder, if it is possible to make a cab file out of the MSN files of this ROM in order to use it for other Roms. Any ideas?

MSN Hotmail/Messenger - Missing :-(

Hi,
I have a T-Mobile MDA Pro, but am currently using the latest Vodafone ROM.
This doesn't have the MSN (Hotmail/Messenger) Utility.
I've gone to the MSN website, and they're charging for the file, does anyone have the CAB file for it?
I'm NOT asking for an illegal copy, as I have a T-Mobile MDA which comes with it anyway, just want to know if anyone has the CAB, or knows how I can extract it from the T-Mobile ROM.
Cheers!

You could always change to the most recent t-mobile rom?

Charms said:
You could always change to the most recent t-mobile rom?
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I wouldn't go near it. I use the dopod Radio ROM which is 1.11.00, and haven't had a dropped call since.
I've found other ROMs and ExtROMs a lot faster, as there's more free memory, if you try them you'll see what I mean :-D The only good thing about the T-Mobile ROMS is that it has MSN on it.

If you can't find the MSN file, try Agile Messenger. It is free and a lot faster than the built-in MSN on my QTEC ROM. Plus, you can use it for other accounts, not just hotmail. Take a look here: http://agilemobile.com/downloads.html

cktlcmd said:
If you can't find the MSN file, try Agile Messenger. It is free and a lot faster than the built-in MSN on my QTEC ROM. Plus, you can use it for other accounts, not just hotmail. Take a look here: http://agilemobile.com/downloads.html
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I've got that, but with the MSN one I could have my Hotmail account showing up in Messaging :-/ Any ideas how I can add that? It only lets me add a POP3 account if I do it manually.

Try manually executing \Windows\pmsnlauncher.exe or \Windows\instmsgr.exe

Hey,
I'm slightly confused here...
I have an MDA PRO and I don't have MSN. Should I? It doesn't appear to be on the CDs that came with the device either, and those two files in /windows are not present on my device.
Is there any way I can go about getting this as I'm on T-mobile without paying for it?
Cheers,
Dave

These two files are in the main OS ROM and all the ROM I've seen have them. In the case of vodaphone ROM, it just removes the shortcut and it can be manually launched. MDA Pro could be a different story.

Microsoft is blocking old MSN messenger

Anyone got the same problem ? I still use the old MSN Messenger of WM2003 SE, original one from the Magician.
It does not work anymore.
I tried MSN 4.7.3 in my PC and it does not work either. I upgraded to the latest release and it works !
I think Microsoft is now blocking the old MSN messenger
Any ideas?

It still works for me, then maybe it was just a short interruption of service.

Strange, it still does not work for me. It happened about 5 hours ago and still does not work until now.
Internet connection is working fine, I use GPRS. Browsing is fine.
Like I said, I have this problem also in the PC. But when I updated the MSN Messenger to the latest release (Windows Live Messenger), it is working fine.
However, I dont know how to update my Magician MSN Messenger

yeah it doesnt work sometimes, i dont use it alot.
if you wana use messenger get agile or IM+ they support multiple messengers

Is Agile freeware ? This is confusing because in some forums people put it as freeware. But when I check the website, I have to pay about $19 USD.
I tried it once (I think I got it bundled with T-Mobile NL), and I dont like it because of intermittent hung up.
Maybe there is a newer version, I dont know.
What is your experience with Agile ?

I hate Agile for the only reason that when a suggestive input text has been selected, it sends the message which may rather be incomplete.. It should be freely available though.

I like agile - think its a really good wee programme, never had a problem with predictive - but I have it turned off.
It is free if you get the ppc version - some mobile versions are charged but I downloaded and used the ppc one and not a penny was paid.
However I did pay for a years service on my 6600 then 2 months in got the hermes so I guess my lack of use of my paid version more than makes up for getting the hermes version for free.

yeah it says its paid for but when you install it it doesnt say trial only or anything

I like Agile, never had any problems. It's a really good program and best of all... it's totally free.

gogol said:
Anyone got the same problem ? I still use the old MSN Messenger of WM2003 SE, original one from the Magician.
It does not work anymore.
I tried MSN 4.7.3 in my PC and it does not work either. I upgraded to the latest release and it works !
I think Microsoft is now blocking the old MSN messenger
Any ideas?
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Have you installed or recently updated a firewall/antivirus application like Norton software? This could be the problem with the PC version as I've found that sometimes updates block files such as the exe file for MSN; this could explain why the old messenger didn't work and the new one does, as the exe files are different. No idea with the ppc tho :/

Pocket MSN

Good morning Chaps and Chappesses.
I hope everyone is well and happy. I am really enjoying using my Ameo but I cannot remember how to re-enable pocket MSN which t-moblie appear to have removed from my device.
I had this same problem on an older PPC I had but I cannot remember what I did to resolve this!
I had pocket MSN setup on my MDA pro and #I found it extremely usefull for checking mail and msn messenger.
Can anyone advise me on getting this back on my device?
Mny thanks!!

http://www.thepoorhouse.org.uk/put_msn_messenger_back_on_your_windows_mobile_5_gadgetry

yarod_g14 said:
Good morning Chaps and Chappesses.
I hope everyone is well and happy. I am really enjoying using my Ameo but I cannot remember how to re-enable pocket MSN which t-moblie appear to have removed from my device.
I had this same problem on an older PPC I had but I cannot remember what I did to resolve this!
I had pocket MSN setup on my MDA pro and #I found it extremely usefull for checking mail and msn messenger.
Can anyone advise me on getting this back on my device?
Mny thanks!!
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if lots of you are interested, i can post a windows message live up here, it's the next generation of pocket MSN.

I'm interested

WOWZERS!!!
PLEASE!!!
I would love a copy of the live messenger!
If you could post it before someone decides its a bad idea and blocks out posts
I am rather annoyed that I cannot have my hotmail messages delivered into my inbox like I did on my MDA pro.
That saved time and effort logging into hotmail through opera.
I guess I will not be installing another T-mobile Rom on this device but I had better find a copy of the HTC advantage Rom istead for TOMTOM and pocket MSN.
I await the goodness of :Live messenger !!
thanks!

Does the Live messenger keep your MSN contacts isolated, or does it still import all your phone contacts and add them as contacts (like it did when i once installed it on universal, prompting my immediate uninstall)
Also, does it suffer from the same problem with the winxp live messenger where some of the more recent contacts you add never appear online, even though they are online ?

Interested!!
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if lots of you are interested, i can post a windows message live up here, it's the next generation of pocket MSN.
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Yes please mate.
Ooops! My bad. Just saw the dedicated thread for it. Thanks Wu.