Hi,
I'm a very fanatic MSN Messenger User (wrote a few add-ons and helped on for example Messenger Plus!).
As a tech geek I also recently bought a T-Mobile MDA Pro, and am quite disappointed that it did not come with Pocket MSN pre-installed. An MVP assured me that it should come pre-installed, but it doesn't (and I blame T-Mobile ).
Although Agile and others are very good alternatives, I still believe the official client will be better, and refuse to believe otherwise untill I tried it
I know one method to get PocketMSN is to flash another ROM, like the I-Mate. However I don't think this is an option for a lot of people, as I think it breaks the warranty. Another method is to pay 14.95E to log in with a downloadable Pocket MSN, but as I have up to three addresses (some for testing purposes) and sometimes I need to troubleshoot some others, this is not an option either.
But I am not giving up! (yet)
I want to try if I can copy the files needed and get it to work anyway. I've already asked a friend with a HTC Wizard (MDA Vario) to help me on that, but I think it'd be better to copy the files from a Universal ROM.
So (finally ), I was hoping that someone could help me to browse the files present in the i-mate or qtek roms. Ideally I think the easiest would be by comparing the files in the i-mate, qtek, and mda pro roms, but as the mda pro ROM is unavailable, I think that'd be impossible
It comes preinstalled on the O2 ROM as well. Works fine, but lacks videoconferencing, regardless of built in hardware support...
Works fine? Do you have the problem where if you start it in landscape mode you only get a very small area of text until you flip the screen to potrait mode and back again? Or is that just me.... I have the o2 rom.
jwarbutron said:
Works fine? Do you have the problem where if you start it in landscape mode you only get a very small area of text until you flip the screen to potrait mode and back again? Or is that just me.... I have the o2 rom.
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On the MDA Pro ROM it isn't installed... at all
i have JJ and it works fine, but times out and disconnects itself.
if you tell me what files I need to get for you, I will copy. i have no idea how to extract out of the source .exe, but have it if you can tell me what to do and how to do it, but suspect there are better gurus around than me to do this.
Guys
There ave been a few threads on this already. T-Mobile in the UK (branded as MDA _Pro) do not offer the msn software. Initially i was a bit dissapointed when i got my MDA, however when i discovered Agile messenger i was very happy.
Agile supports mulitple formats, ICQ, AOL, MSN etc.. but better still for a mobile device with a per kb download charge it uses way less bw than the windows version. I also was pissed off about Mobile msn not supporting multiple accounts and also the paid for version will only support @hotmail or @msn accounts not @mydomain accounts.
Regards
Charlie
Does Agile support Videochat (preferably via wifi)?
Agile does not support video at the moment but there is another thread on the forum about the new version of agile for WM5. I think they are working on video support but if it will support that in version 1 beta or not is yet to be decided.
In the T-Mobile Germany ROM Update MSN Messenger is included. And it works fine!
I use now Agile Messenger and MSN Messenger. If you also want use ICQ, then Agile is better. MSN Messenger does not have so many features (e. g. no Emoticons, but Agile shows them correctly)
I wonder, if it is possible to make a cab file out of the MSN files of this ROM in order to use it for other Roms. Any ideas?
Related
I've just got the mda pro on tmobile on upgrade, silver verson, handset is excellent, but it doesnt seem to have any of the MSN apps pre-installed, like messenger, does anyone know where i can get these from?
Messenger can be bought from MS..
I preferr Agile Messenger myself..
Is this not suppose to be a default free application already installed?
T-Mobile made a deal with HTC to have MSN taken out, apparantly. I had an MDA Pro without MSN, and when I put on the Jasjar rom, I suddenly did have MSN
Right, so whats the difference between the tmobile ROM and the MDA rom? apart from the added MSN feature.
How do I flash my MDA with the Jasjar's rom?
Rather than risk flashing my MDA PRO with the JasJar ROM, I simply paid £10.50 to M$ and now have the full suite of MSN applications (Messenger, Hotmail integrated with pocket Outlook, etc) on my MDA PRO. When you buy it, it's activated on your "passport account" not the software itself - this means that you can install MSN on any other device in the future and won't have to pay for it again (as long as you sign in as you).
Disappointing yes, but there are too many "my JasJar is now a brick!!!" threads on this forum and that convinced me that flashing was a bad idea as this device is so new :lol:
Hi,
i made the upgarde and there were no problems att all. The msm software ist not the only difference, with the jasjar roms you´ll get skype, an anti-virus-solution and get rid of that grey / magenta look.
Oh, i forgot, i had serveral problems with wifi with the t-mobile roms ... with the jasjar roms wifi is very very easy and stable.
I made it and i am happy with it.
Superbowl
See the following thread for MDA pro rom upgrade details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29354
I work for a certain mobile provider, and have it on authority, that a ROM update is out in November for the PRO with MSN included, and the blackberry connect software for email
Cool, do you know where we will be able to download this from?
I think i can wait.
Hi
Anyone know if the downloadable Pocket MSN version @ MS is WM2005 compatible? It seems to be just 2003/SE:
http://mobile.msn.com/ac.aspx?cid=pmsn_market
Nigel
@veletron: yes, it is, you can run it on wm5.
cheers, lutz
I too had problems installing Pocket MSN on my MDA Pro (the activation process only seems to accept Hotmail-accounts, not generic e-mail addressed that can be your MSN/Passport account as on the PC-version of MSN Messenger).
Until MS resolves this issue, I downloaded and installed IM+ from
http://www.shapeservices.com/eng/im/PPC/
Seems to work fine in WM5, supports landscape just fine, has WM5-style notification "bubbles" when someone is speaking, however it lacks the use of the 2 WM5-style hardware buttons. So far, it seems to be the best MSN Messenger client for me, until I can use the "real thing" with my normal MSN account.
Hello!
I would greatly appreciate it if you could suggest any good multi - IM software for the universal (Yahoo, MSN, ICQ mainly)
agile messenger was good, but it has a lot of stability issues on the universal. So could you suggest something other than agile?
Thanks,
San
Hmm I'd be interested also in what people are using, at the moment I only have PocketMSN installed.
MSN via IRC
Hi all,
Well I own an MDA Pro (HTC Universal) so it doesn't come with MSN Messenger installed. I am waiting for the new Rom though which does include it. In the meantime I'm using an IRC client in combination with Bitlbee to get on the MSN network. It works like a charm. If you don't know what Bitlbee is you can go here (www.bitlbee.org) to read all about it and to try it out. Basically it's just a IRC Bot/Script that you can run on your computer and it forms a gateway to different IM networks like MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, AIM etc... You can also use the public servers if you don't want to install it on your own pc. Ow and it's free also.
Agile Messenger for Windows Mobile is still free as far as I know, and supports MSN, Yahoo!, AOL, Jabber and ICQ.
I'm using it almost daily. Works quite well, actually.
It has crashed on me at times, but only after extensive chatting.
Omnichaos: Does the MDA Pro not come with MSN? The i-mates do, and it's a free download from Microsoft's site too. The problem with using IRC scripts and bots is that not one bit of it is encrypted, so you're opening up your data to some script-kiddie with lots of time on his hands (granted, I haven't read about your solution, so I don't know the details)
Even I use Agile messenger..it works fine also in Full VGA Mode :lol:
What about any alternatives for just an MSN? I'm not using any other communicators so don't need the all-in-one ones.
I'm quite happy with Pocket MSN, it's just annoying me that the chat window is so small and hard to read and there is a huge unused space underneath.
rottie said:
What about any alternatives for just an MSN? I'm not using any other communicators so don't need the all-in-one ones.
I'm quite happy with Pocket MSN, it's just annoying me that the chat window is so small and hard to read and there is a huge unused space underneath.
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Click on your SIP to display it, and then hide it again to clear the huge unused space.
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Agile Messenger for Windows Mobile is still free as far as I know, and supports MSN, Yahoo!, AOL, Jabber and ICQ.
It has crashed on me at times, but only after extensive chatting.
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Also my Agile crashes now and then my Jasjar. Indeed you need extensive chatting first. It has never crashed just in stand bye mode.
Agile however recovers very well after being out of reach of the network, which, in my case, cannot be said about MSN.
And the MSN new-user-on-line warning can officially not be switched off. Very irritating.
Anyone tried IM+?
Huib
hey, Thanks!!!
@ snorbaard
No the MDA Pro does not come with MSN Messenger at least not yet (It's included in the next Rom update). I don't know why they haven't included it in the first place cause I now that the Imate's, O2's & Qtek's do.
You are right about MSN being a free download but you have to active your MSN account first for you to be able to use Pocket MSN and that costs 15 euro's.
But as I said it doesn't matter for me that much cause I'm using IRC to get on the MSN network.
You're probably right about IRC not being encrypted but you can run it on your own computer which does increase security alot than if you were to use the public servers. Besides I don't really care that much. It's not like I'm giving away passwords or creditcard numbers on MSN anyway.
Agile Messenger - NEW WM 5.0 version
We will be releasing a new version of Agile Messenger for WM5.0 both PPC and Smartphone versions, that is a complete re-write from the ground up. The BETA will be available in the next week or so, and will be posted publicly on this forum for all of the members to download.
Your feedback is appreciated, and we are quite confident that you will be happy with the new Agile Messnger for WM5.0.
Thanks for your continued support.
BR
Seth
Agilemobile.com Ltd.
Sweet!!!
Can't wait to try it out.
New Agile? Great. Used it on my Nokia 9500. Very nice and stable.
eagerly waiting for a testdrive.
Huib
IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.
yo i tried agile on my mda pro, but it wouldnt work,
touchscreen doesnt work with it,and i could only select msn not logon to it
to bad, i just have to wait voor that t-mobile update i guess
P'z
Beta
The new version should support:
Push To Talk
Image Transfer
Emoticons
Group Management
Typing Notification
Support for AOL, MSN, ICQ, Yahoo, and Google Talk
Amongst a number of other new features, and an entirely new interface.
There have ben a number of internal builds over the past few months, and we expect to be releasing a Beta very shortly.
For those of you that are requesting early Beta's it is simply not possible as we intend to provide it to the entire community as soon as our internal devlopment team and quality controll is satisfied that it is ready for public release; which we expect to be in the next few weeks.
BR
Seth
Agilemobile.com Ltd.
universaldoc said:
IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.
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I also use IM+. I have since i first got my old Nokia 7650 many moons ago.
I use an XDA EXEC at the moment and the built in MSN Messenger is really bad it claims i am connected when i am not and my gprs monitor reported over 400k usage in around 3 hours without any use.
With IM+ i use around 23K when connecting then a very small amount each time i chat.
AFAIK IM+ also connects directly to the services. I know some other third party ones connect through their own servers.
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universaldoc said:
IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.
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I also use IM+. I have since i first got my old Nokia 7650 many moons ago.
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Dingo, that is good news. There is competition. I would love you to compare both Agile and IM+ as soon as the new, rewritten, Agile appears.
I use Agile at the moment. Apart from sometimes hanging my Jasjar, it does the job well. Especially REconnecting after being in the subway is very imporant for me. MSN just does not and Agile reconnects quickly.
MB consumtion of MSN is unacceptable. Very strange that MS delievered a product like that.
Huib
Hi guys
I have been using agile oin my T;mobile exec. It is very stable and i also find it recovers well on disconnects between cell sites. I regularly use it on express train journeys in the uk. But for these i tend to turn of UMTS and force gsm only. this really helps on speeding up agile reconnecting when the unoiversal is moving fast. The other big thing on agile is it costs less than 305 of the bw that MS MSN client uses. So on samll bundles it will save far more in bw costs than any licence feee will cost. If you are having problems on the t-mobile exec, then you are probably doing something wrong, or you have some other trird party sw installed that is messing thinbgs up. Personally i am really pleased that tmob did not install msn otherwise i would not have discovered agile. Can t wait till the new version comes out.
Keepup the good work at the Agile dev team.
Regards
Charlie
MSN Mobile is ... really bad IMHO.
Im also using IM+ as its the most stable for me. It also support jabber but it really miss some basic features.
Are they any other good jabber clients?
Agile was also not really working out for me, lets see how it behave on an new version.
If anybody know any other clients plz post them. Im also really ready to pay for them - 100EURO for a really ok client is no problem. Sources would be even better so i could fix the rest myself.
If somebody could provide sources, i would even sign an NDA or something and pay more.
Would love if somebody contact me
Daniel
Hi,
I have a T-Mobile MDA Pro, but am currently using the latest Vodafone ROM.
This doesn't have the MSN (Hotmail/Messenger) Utility.
I've gone to the MSN website, and they're charging for the file, does anyone have the CAB file for it?
I'm NOT asking for an illegal copy, as I have a T-Mobile MDA which comes with it anyway, just want to know if anyone has the CAB, or knows how I can extract it from the T-Mobile ROM.
Cheers!
You could always change to the most recent t-mobile rom?
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You could always change to the most recent t-mobile rom?
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I wouldn't go near it. I use the dopod Radio ROM which is 1.11.00, and haven't had a dropped call since.
I've found other ROMs and ExtROMs a lot faster, as there's more free memory, if you try them you'll see what I mean :-D The only good thing about the T-Mobile ROMS is that it has MSN on it.
If you can't find the MSN file, try Agile Messenger. It is free and a lot faster than the built-in MSN on my QTEC ROM. Plus, you can use it for other accounts, not just hotmail. Take a look here: http://agilemobile.com/downloads.html
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If you can't find the MSN file, try Agile Messenger. It is free and a lot faster than the built-in MSN on my QTEC ROM. Plus, you can use it for other accounts, not just hotmail. Take a look here: http://agilemobile.com/downloads.html
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I've got that, but with the MSN one I could have my Hotmail account showing up in Messaging :-/ Any ideas how I can add that? It only lets me add a POP3 account if I do it manually.
Try manually executing \Windows\pmsnlauncher.exe or \Windows\instmsgr.exe
Hey,
I'm slightly confused here...
I have an MDA PRO and I don't have MSN. Should I? It doesn't appear to be on the CDs that came with the device either, and those two files in /windows are not present on my device.
Is there any way I can go about getting this as I'm on T-mobile without paying for it?
Cheers,
Dave
These two files are in the main OS ROM and all the ROM I've seen have them. In the case of vodaphone ROM, it just removes the shortcut and it can be manually launched. MDA Pro could be a different story.
is it normal i have got no MSN pre-installed on my universal
cheers,, cudo
If you mean MSN messenger, it is called "Pocket MSN" and the icon is a butterfly. From within that you then select MSN messenger. I had a similar problem when I got mine, not being able to find it. I must say I don't like it like this.
nope i tried to localize it everywhere but i just dont have it installed.
i am using mda pro. even if i try to serch within help there is nothing about pocket msn, msn and so on...why is that maybe i just need to upgrade to the lates ROM ?
mine never came with it either mate had to use agile msng in the end,
im also running a tmob uk mda pro
mine never came with it either mate had to use agile msng in the end,
im also running a tmob uk mda pro
You all need to upgrade your ROMS to the latest version to get MSN Messenger!
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_pro.html
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brill thanks
thanks mate just downloading that,
how do you find ext rom stable and is it a pain in the ass to do
also does it free much up and increase speeds
cheers
Installation was pretty straight forward. I wrote my first thoughts here and so far tey havent changed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54223&sid=9430effb43d1986994bed07cca585c50
Have you got yours sorted now?
For those interested, some operators do not ship their PDA-phones with MSN messenger so as not to compete with their own instant messenging solutions / SMS offers.
Anyone got the same problem ? I still use the old MSN Messenger of WM2003 SE, original one from the Magician.
It does not work anymore.
I tried MSN 4.7.3 in my PC and it does not work either. I upgraded to the latest release and it works !
I think Microsoft is now blocking the old MSN messenger
Any ideas?
It still works for me, then maybe it was just a short interruption of service.
Strange, it still does not work for me. It happened about 5 hours ago and still does not work until now.
Internet connection is working fine, I use GPRS. Browsing is fine.
Like I said, I have this problem also in the PC. But when I updated the MSN Messenger to the latest release (Windows Live Messenger), it is working fine.
However, I dont know how to update my Magician MSN Messenger
yeah it doesnt work sometimes, i dont use it alot.
if you wana use messenger get agile or IM+ they support multiple messengers
Is Agile freeware ? This is confusing because in some forums people put it as freeware. But when I check the website, I have to pay about $19 USD.
I tried it once (I think I got it bundled with T-Mobile NL), and I dont like it because of intermittent hung up.
Maybe there is a newer version, I dont know.
What is your experience with Agile ?
I hate Agile for the only reason that when a suggestive input text has been selected, it sends the message which may rather be incomplete.. It should be freely available though.
I like agile - think its a really good wee programme, never had a problem with predictive - but I have it turned off.
It is free if you get the ppc version - some mobile versions are charged but I downloaded and used the ppc one and not a penny was paid.
However I did pay for a years service on my 6600 then 2 months in got the hermes so I guess my lack of use of my paid version more than makes up for getting the hermes version for free.
yeah it says its paid for but when you install it it doesnt say trial only or anything
I like Agile, never had any problems. It's a really good program and best of all... it's totally free.
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Anyone got the same problem ? I still use the old MSN Messenger of WM2003 SE, original one from the Magician.
It does not work anymore.
I tried MSN 4.7.3 in my PC and it does not work either. I upgraded to the latest release and it works !
I think Microsoft is now blocking the old MSN messenger
Any ideas?
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Have you installed or recently updated a firewall/antivirus application like Norton software? This could be the problem with the PC version as I've found that sometimes updates block files such as the exe file for MSN; this could explain why the old messenger didn't work and the new one does, as the exe files are different. No idea with the ppc tho :/