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No MSN on MDA Pro (T-Mobile, Netherlands)

Hmmm, I just found out there's no MSN Mobile on my MDAPro. Can anyone post a CAB with MSN suitable for the WM2005 OS ??
Thanx !
Sammy ;o)

its a cab file for wm2003se but it will work on wm2005 too...
regards

you can buy it for 19,95 dollar on msn

unfortuntily i can't gete het 2003 to work. So anybody any other options?
grt,
Ruben

like i said
microsoft wants you to buy it
i did, i have msn on my mda pro

Are the $ 19 once ore returning?
I don't understand the decision of MS. This will push the user to Skype and evangelize other PC users to do this also.

http://mobile.msn.com/ac.aspx?cid=pmsn_market

Hang on, isn't Pocket MSN is supposed to be standard on all WM2005 devices?
You don't have to pay for MSN Messenger for any other platform which Microsoft supports, so why on God's Holy Earth would they charge for this version? Especially as it's free and pre-installed on the JasJar.
It surely can't be a Microsoft decision, sounds like T-Mobile (Germany) are the ones who are screwing everything up to me...

T-Mobile (Germany) wants that you use t-zones 8)

sub69 said:
Hang on, isn't Pocket MSN is supposed to be standard on all WM2005 devices?
You don't have to pay for MSN Messenger for any other platform which Microsoft supports, so why on God's Holy Earth would they charge for this version? Especially as it's free and pre-installed on the JasJar.
It surely can't be a Microsoft decision, sounds like T-Mobile (Germany) are the ones who are screwing everything up to me...
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The PocketMSN install on the MDA Pro CD connects to a Microsoft site where you can download PocketMSN. Installing it prior to activating it with Microsoft will result in an error message. In this case Microsoft are not charging for the USE of MSN but for the use of the PocketMSN application, and they do that by preventing the PocketMSN application from connecting to MSN and Hotmail prior to activation.
In short, Microsoft are selling the application instead of shipping it for free, and by leaving MSN out of the default WM5 OS make sure that you buy it. Has nothing to do with T-Mobile.

On the jasjar it comes installed and you just login and you're good to go.

sharkey said:
On the jasjar it comes installed and you just login and you're good to go.
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Yeah, but I-Mate probably paid MS a lump sum to be able to include in in the bundled software. Not every operator may want to do so, in order to save a dime. Mind you: these devices are heavily subsidised (at least here in the Netherlands). I'm on the Relax 200 subscription (which I extended) and I got the MDA Pro for €239... The normal cost is € 745.
Most of the MDA's they sell will be in combination with a subscription (and thus subsidised) and therefore the package needs to be as cheap as possible...

Pocket Msn.
can some god send person please upload pocket msn over here I have already activated pocket msn services under my email address but have failed to download the setup of pocket msn, as i try to download, it terminates the connection itself and i dont have a complete .exe file to install in my pda....ive asked my friend to download it at his place he has the same issue it terminates itself i am sure someone out here is using pocket msn if not using has it in the backup folder could you please upload it here or upload it to http://rapidshare.de or http://www.megaupload.com and post the link here for the download......
ive contacted microsoft support team and all crap replies one guy is suggesting me to contact microsoft u.k one is saying contact msn support team and both have given links where as on the links there is no information for pocket msn support and microsoft u.k would'nt reply.
this thread is my last hope i had posted a new thread also but no one has the courtesy to post the file for me as there are only increasing views no replies....
P.S : if you would like to give a shot at the download link then here it is http://mobile.msn.com/download.aspx?id=pmsn_installer

MDA Pro crashes after Pocket msn install and reset
I installed Pocket MSN. It worked, but after a soft reset, the device won't start up again, it just hangs in the boot screen (the T-mobile logo.)
First I thought it was a compatibility problem, but the same thing happened after a hard reset and a fresh install of only Pocket MSN.
Anyone else has the same problem?
ANd than to think I paid for the service.

Re: MDA Pro crashes after Pocket msn install and reset
johnkorver said:
I installed Pocket MSN. It worked, but after a soft reset, the device won't start up again, it just hangs in the boot screen (the T-mobile logo.)
First I thought it was a compatibility problem, but the same thing happened after a hard reset and a fresh install of only Pocket MSN.
Anyone else has the same problem?
ANd than to think I paid for the service.
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you've paid for it and you have the file.....i've paid for it and i don't have the file......paid for something which i have seen as yet :S

Re: Pocket Msn.
zairyaab said:
....as i try to download, it terminates the connection itself and i dont have a complete .exe file to install in my pda....
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Must be a temporary problem. I successfully downloaded this at work earlier (to post here for anyone who might want it), but decided it'd probably be pointless as I assumed it'd need to be registered (paid for).
I'm unable to download more than 30% of the file now because as you say, it keeps cutting out, but I still have the complete .exe at work, and if no-one else has posted this by tomorrow morning, I'll upload it for you as soon as I get back to the office...

Pocket MSN File
I at least can post the file, it's a free download. You have to pay for the registration.

Re: Pocket Msn.
sub69 said:
zairyaab said:
....as i try to download, it terminates the connection itself and i dont have a complete .exe file to install in my pda....
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Must be a temporary problem. I successfully downloaded this at work earlier (to post here for anyone who might want it), but decided it'd probably be pointless as I assumed it'd need to be registered (paid for).
I'm unable to download more than 30% of the file now because as you say, it keeps cutting out, but I still have the complete .exe at work, and if no-one else has posted this by tomorrow morning, I'll upload it for you as soon as I get back to the office...
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hey dude....thank you very much...i will be waiting for it as i know and have experienced by tommorow also the file wont be here untill you post it.
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I at least can post the file, it's a free download. You have to pay for the registration.
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hey dude .....would really appreciate if you could post it, and yes i have already paid for the registration gbp 10.99

ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Install_Pocket_MSN.exe

Beaten to it! I forgot about my training session this morning!
So does this mean that everyone with an MDA Pro will have to pay £10.99 to get MSN to work on their device? Sneaky little buggers - T-Mobile - aren't they?
I assume there's some sort of legal 'issue' about extracting the MSN app from a JasJar, and posting it here, or is that not actually possible???

MSN missing ?

is it normal i have got no MSN pre-installed on my universal
cheers,, cudo

If you mean MSN messenger, it is called "Pocket MSN" and the icon is a butterfly. From within that you then select MSN messenger. I had a similar problem when I got mine, not being able to find it. I must say I don't like it like this.

nope i tried to localize it everywhere but i just dont have it installed.
i am using mda pro. even if i try to serch within help there is nothing about pocket msn, msn and so on...why is that maybe i just need to upgrade to the lates ROM ?

mine never came with it either mate had to use agile msng in the end,
im also running a tmob uk mda pro

mine never came with it either mate had to use agile msng in the end,
im also running a tmob uk mda pro

You all need to upgrade your ROMS to the latest version to get MSN Messenger!
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_pro.html
:wink:

brill thanks

thanks mate just downloading that,
how do you find ext rom stable and is it a pain in the ass to do
also does it free much up and increase speeds
cheers

Installation was pretty straight forward. I wrote my first thoughts here and so far tey havent changed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54223&sid=9430effb43d1986994bed07cca585c50
Have you got yours sorted now?

For those interested, some operators do not ship their PDA-phones with MSN messenger so as not to compete with their own instant messenging solutions / SMS offers.

Who wants the real MSN Messenger for WM5/TyTN

After flicking around on google, i have found a personally tested method of getting msn messenger working in WM5.
It fully supports the rotation that occurs when you open the keyboard on the TyTN.
http://node13.org/pda/
Go here (my own site), and do the following:
1. Connect your WM5 device to your pc.
2. Run msn22.exe (Will installed the PPC2002 version of MSN Messenger)
3. Run msn23.exe (Will instal the PPC2003SE version with the latest updates)
4. Reset your device
Voila, you now have a nice working copy of MSN Messenger.
Enjoy!

Just out of curiosity:
What's the difference between "MSN Messenger on Pocket PC" and "Pocket Messenger"?

Thanks for that!

deep-blue said:
After flicking around on google, i have found a personally tested method of getting msn messenger working in WM5.
It fully supports the rotation that occurs when you open the keyboard on the TyTN.
http://node13.org/pda/
Go here (my own site), and do the following:
1. Connect your WM5 device to your pc.
2. Run msn22.exe (Will installed the PPC2002 version of MSN Messenger)
3. Run msn23.exe (Will instal the PPC2003SE version with the latest updates)
4. Reset your device
Voila, you now have a nice working copy of MSN Messenger.
Enjoy!
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For some reasons, every time I tried to run your msn23 from my computer (connected to the device of course), it showed the InstallShield 1645: and it stopped there. I have also tried msn22 and the result is the same. BTW, I have done the unlock CID already if it would matter at all.
Any suggestions?
Paul
Hermn 200
Rom Version1.20.161.5
ROM date: 06/06/06
Radio Version: 1.13.00.00
Protoco; Version: 32.49.7018.00W

I dont know what all those posts about MSN Live Messenger are about.
I have it for a while now and its works perfect. I sent it to some forum members via email and its works flawless for them too.
You just install it and log in...thats all...

Moskus said:
Just out of curiosity:
What's the difference between "MSN Messenger on Pocket PC" and "Pocket Messenger"?
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ditto that, what is the difference?

aquasesh said:
I dont know what all those posts about MSN Live Messenger are about.
I have it for a while now and its works perfect. I sent it to some forum members via email and its works flawless for them too.
You just install it and log in...thats all...
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Any chance you can send it to me ?

acantril said:
Any chance you can send it to me ?
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Downloads available here
http://ideas.live.com/
Mike

mikechannon said:
Downloads available here
http://ideas.live.com/
Mike
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thanks mikechannon... you wont believe how many emails i got regarding MSN LM...lol

aquasesh said:
thanks mikechannon... you wont believe how many emails i got regarding MSN LM...lol
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Yes, I don't know why Microsoft have it so obscurely referenced, not easy to track it down. By the way also works well for me too.
Mike

Are you guys referring to the Live.Com Beta for Mobile download? Or am I missing the point totally?
Thanks!

gavinmoffitt said:
Are you guys referring to the Live.Com Beta for Mobile download? Or am I missing the point totally?
Thanks!
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Well now that's a tricky question... welllll ok yes we are, at least I am. The one that's like the old MSN for mobile but not quite if you know what I mean!! And the one that shows as Live.com on this link http://ideas.live.com/, In case there's confusion "MSN Messenger is now Windows Live Messenger" hence the use of the name Live.com.
Mike

you try this agilemessenger
in my tytn it works very well:
- he automatically rotates with the opening of the keyboard
- it notices all the emoticons
- it works with msn, icq, yaooh etc. accounts
- allows to make a photo with my TYTN and to send it
- and it also has the push to talk!!!
It's phenomenalanything
...else other than microsoft!!!
Enjoy

5n0rk said:
you try this agilemessenger
in my tytn it works very well:
- he automatically rotates with the opening of the keyboard
- it notices all the emoticons
- it works with msn, icq, yaooh etc. accounts
- allows to make a photo with my TYTN and to send it
- and it also has the push to talk!!!
It's phenomenalanything
...else other than microsoft!!!
Enjoy
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Well now 5n0rk, I think I might just do that. Heard of it before but never thought it would inspire me, but from what you say it might be interesting
Mike

him, agile messenger is fabulous! to try for believing!

Is Agile Messenger really free? On their web site they only have 7 day trial versions after which you pay and through the nose...
http://billing.am-im.net/am/eur.php
Try not to get too hooked unless you want to be spending up big.
Regards

Free on WM5 "for the moment"
As it is slightly buggey or at least was, seems much more stable these days.

Yes is Free!!!

Where is it, it says that it's not available yet, the messenger.
Only windows live homepage.
Thank you.

monty5k said:
Where is it, it says that it's not available yet, the messenger.
Only windows live homepage.
Thank you.
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Which one are you referring to:
If it's Live messenger it's here
http://ideas.live.com
Mike

Windows live mobile beta problem

Hi everyone,
I have recently installed the Windows Live Mobile, it was working perfectly but now it seems that there is a problem with the 'synchronise'.
When I click the synchronise option, the email can be synchronised, but not the Contacts & Email. It always fails. also, when you open the Messenger, it always no contacts online, but actually there are.
Anyone has any ideas of this?
Thx in advance...

The online contacts appear after ~ 10-20 sec. As for the sync, I do not know.

I have the same email sync problem. I figured it's because my perticipation is still pending for the offical beta enrolment. I downloaded the file from another source so I thought it maybe there server seeing that I'm not part of the beta program yet. Are you part of the beta program or did you do like me and get it from the forums?
My only compaint about this version is they still didn't fix the issue that when you sign in to messenger the first time it adds all your MSN Messenger contacts to your address book, which they are already there so now there are duplicates. I have there full contact card with all there details and now a second one that just has there email and messenger name. It should be smart enough to see that that email addresss and IM name already exist in my address book and link to it instead of creating another one.

Yeah I got the messenger from the froum also.
I have tried to login the Windows live mobile using another ID, it works fine, but just not mine.
I dont know...

I don't like how WLM mobile takes all your messenger contacts and automatically puts them into your 'contacts' on the phone, which ends up in my contacts folder in Outlook. That's horrible, I don't want the two mixed up and now I have no choice, mix them up, or don't use it?
Go delete them from my contacts folder in outlook, that deletes them from my messenger contacts as well!!
Pocket MSN never forced your messenger contacts to be placed or synced into your 'contacts'.

I got that problem too
wzf03 said:
Hi everyone,
I have recently installed the Windows Live Mobile, it was working perfectly but now it seems that there is a problem with the 'synchronise'.
When I click the synchronise option, the email can be synchronised, but not the Contacts & Email. It always fails. also, when you open the Messenger, it always no contacts online, but actually there are.
Anyone has any ideas of this?
Thx in advance...
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My messenger contacts suddenly appeared as offline. Strange. No reboot or relogon could fix it. They could IM me but I could not contact them. I suspect that this has to do with the beta, maybe they simply block old betas to force the legitimate beta testers to use the latest version.

Hi guys,
Can someone point me in the direction of this download? I registered with MS Connect but havent had anything back from them yet.
WLM works well on my N91 but i dont have it on my TYTN
Thanks

Same offline contacts problem here...

weelubo said:
Hi guys,
Can someone point me in the direction of this download? I registered with MS Connect but havent had anything back from them yet.
WLM works well on my N91 but i dont have it on my TYTN
Thanks
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Doubt you'll hear anything from them, I registered a few months ago and for some reason their registration system was TOTALLY cocked up, so I ended up with a mangled registration and they point blank refused to offer me any useful help.
So now I can log into MS Connect, but I can't see the right live beta tests to join them properly... It sucks. Guess I'll just have to wait on this one.

is the latest WLM on the FTP i couldn't find it? can somebody mirror it somewhere?

No MSN Messenger on SPVM3100..?

Hi guys/dolls,
My 1st post of hopefully many .......Got myself upgraded(?) from a FSC Loox T830 to an Orange SPV M3100 (mainly for the larger screen & keyboard) but note that there is no MSN Messenger installed!?! ... How can I get this or Pocket MSN installed? Also, anyone had luck on using 'push email' on this device through the Wlan connection?

MSN messenger wasnt included by Orange deliberatly i think, dont worry it is available on many different ROMs.
Push email works through activesync (on the device) you need to setup an exchange account somewhere and email sent to that account is pushed to the device if you are synced through GPRS/HSDPA Wifi or even through the USB lead on your pc. Denials service is quite good, and a simple $10 donation is all he requires for it. You will find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305612

There's also a CAB floating around for Windows Live Mobile... sorry I don't have a link but search for it and you'll find it.
I prefer using that over the old MSN Messenger AND you get free push email with hotmail - awesome!

Please use forum search.
I posted on this very topic a couple of weeks ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307477
If you are wanting Pocket MSN then use the thread above.
Orange remove this from their device as it goes against T&C's but there is a CAB attached to the above thread that gets it working.
If you use Live messenger then it has an in built expiry that means you have to re-install it every now and then. It's still in BETA stage.
I would recommend using Pocket MSN as it is working fine error free for me and my M3100 using friend.

Thanks guys.....downloaded and installed the 'floating' CAB, Pocket MSN back and works a dream! Boo Orange!