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OK what are the Specs REALLY

Just looked at mobilefun.co.uk and they have the K-Jam specs as this :-
· Microsoft Windows 2005
· High resolution trans reflective TFT-LCD screen (240 x 320 pixel)
128 MB Flash ROM / 64MB SDRAM
Triband 900/1800/1900 MHz
MMC / SDIO Memory Slot
802.11b Wireless LAN
· Boosts all the lastest communications including integrated WLAN, GPRS and UMITS technology
· Push Email Service
· 1.3 Megapixel CMOS camera & Flash
· Built-In 62 Key QWERTY keyboard
· Radio - WCDMA / GSM / GPRS PDA
Look at the Radio this states 3g rather than Edge .... can someone confirm.

Qtek 9100 specs (confirmed with supplier at smartdevicesdirect.co.uk):
Hardware Specifications:
Operating System -Microsoft Windows Mobile version 5.0 Pocket PC Phone Edition
Processor - TI OMAP 850
GSM/GPRS Module - Internal antenna, Quad-band (850/900/1800/1900)
WiFi (manufacture option) - IEEE 802.11b, Internal WLAN antenna, 11, 5.5, 2, and 1 Mbps per channel, auto fallback for extended range, ELP mode, Security: WPA authentication – WEP, PSK, EAP-TLS, PEAP, LEAP
Memory - ROM: 128 MB, RAM: 64MB SDRAM
LCD module - 2.8” 240 x 320 pixels. 64K-color TFT Transflective LCD
Sound - Built-n Microphone, Receiver, Dual speaker on both sides, Loud speaker for Hands-Free supported.
Power - Removable and chargeable Lithium ion polymer battery, 1200mAh (TBD). Talk time: 4~5 hours (TBD) Standby time: 200 hours (TBD)
Camera - CMOS 1.3 Mega pixel with fixed lens, video/flash light, Preview Mirror.
Expansions - Mini-SD slot
Connectivity - Infrared IrDA SIR, External antenna connector, 2.5Ø stereo audio jack.
Dimensions - 108 mm (L) x 58 mm (W) x 23.5 mm (T), 150g with battery pack.
Generic software applications - Photo Album with editing picture capability, Camera capture utility, Camcorder, Zip, Polyphonic MIDI Ringtone Engine Intelli Dial, Intelli Pad, Smart Launcher
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My point exactly ,,, these specs don't even mention EDGE !!

Thats because its not EDGE compliant. The HTC Apache is the EDGE compliant version of the Wizard.
The specs I have posted are official as they have been confirmed with the supplier.

ShALLaX said:
Thats because its not EDGE compliant. The HTC Apache is the EDGE compliant version of the Wizard.
The specs I have posted are official as they have been confirmed with the supplier.
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As far as we have heard and seen in the States, the HTC Apache is the CDMA version of the Wizard and has EVDO (and thus not EDGE which runs on GSM). Rumor has it that the Wizard (at least the one that will be released by the US GSM carriers) will have EDGE.
The specs here confirm the EDGE rumor on the Qtek 9100: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4173.html

Oh crap my bad.. sorry, yes the Apache is the CDMA version and apparently the Wizard has EDGE.

Here we go:
http://www.qtek.fi/qtek9100.htm

does anyone know if this will have support for USB 2.0 (the sync port)?

OMAP 850 specs
Well, I got a bit curious and went digging on the TI site for information about the OMAP 850 and found this:
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...00&path=templatedata/cm/product/data/omap_850
Based on this I would say that yes, it is possible that the device has 802.11g (The diagram shows a/b/g) and they could very well have Bluetooth 2.0 (Did anyone spot a BRF6300 chip on the device?).
Robert Harrold
Houston, TX

Very unlikely that it will have anything above 802.11b.

In the specs:
CMOS 1.3Mega pixel with fixed lens
Or
CMOS 2.1Mega pixel with macro lens / AF
anyone heard of a unit selling with the 2.1?
Also, I in the specs under MSD:
Blackberry email client (Optional)
I heard of a blackberry client available for the Magician, anyone have it?
-mix

Re: OMAP 850 specs
robinton said:
Based on this I would say that yes, it is possible that the device has 802.11g (The diagram shows a/b/g) and they could very well have Bluetooth 2.0 (Did anyone spot a BRF6300 chip on the device?)
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The diagram only shows peripherals the processor supports... The final call is the sole property of HTC whether to put an a, b, or g. Just like Intel Bulverde supports Wi-Fi internally, Palm Treo 650 (Bulverde 312 MHz) doesn't come with Wi-Fi.

Prophet internals

Hey Guys...
I was wondering what chips are built in the HTC Prophet but couldn't find any document about it on the web... So I disassembled my Prophet yesterday and wrote down what chips are in there... I could identify what some chips are used for, but about some internals I didn't find anything... Maybe you can help...
M-Systems
MD8832-d1G-V3-X-P
128MB-DiskOnChip G4
Samsung
K4X51163PC
64MB Mobile-DDR SDRAM
TI
WL1250ZWH
Wifi
TI
WL3422MZWN
Wifi
TI
BRF6150 E1
Bluetooth
TI
TSC2406
Touchscreen-Controller
Samsung
LTP280QV
LCD
Things I don't know what they're good for (inscription):
RENESAS
09016B
6D1 1D03761
5LT01W
HD155
154
R571A
6326G
CL257
TI 62K
CRED
92CZ
HHMG

Hi there. Why you need chip descriptions? If you are so curious - do photo of your system board and post here to WIKI.
CL257 - TI SN74CBTLV3257 - low voltage logic (demux)
92CZ - probably Intersil ISL6292CCR3Z - Li-Ion accu charger
HD155154 - RF PLL chip, RENESAS 09016B companion
Renesas 09016B - probably GSM/GPRS power amplifier

Wlan for Pharos (Some common features of all OMAP 850 phones)

I thought it was so strange that when I scanned for bluetooth devices I picked up my (pc) internet modem (which is wireless enabled) so I thought bluetooth and wifi must share a lot of the same characteristics.
I was browsing for the latest Android developments and stumbled on the following
Please take a look at this page http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
And this one http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12019&contentId=4635&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+bluetooth
This seems to mean that FM Radio and WiFi is a standard feature of OMAP 850 chips and (for the touch owners look at this page http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12028&contentId=4636&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+agps)
Seems If you have Bluetooth you also have wifi and possibly fm radio built in only lacking the drivers (no special wifi antenna is used in the omap 850 solution accoriding to TI)
It would seem that all we need is the right drivers and regsettings (so no new rom or radio rom should be needed)
Who can make it a working cab?

Woooooooooo!
Good news.

great job
if some solution, make me to buy one.
by the soft solution, strange story !no idea for none cost effective option. why do HTC designers make a 2008 PDA with no WiFi Option!

wow
wow...it might be dream come ture if it happens....please some body develop a driver for pharos Fm radio n wifi.....please buit up some regsettings......

This is a good information. Hope that we could make it work on our Pharos.

Good News... I hope who will make it soon because I don't understand about ARM work.

That is an awesome find man. I hope this info is used to get a wifi working ROM.
I thought it was some kind of cost saving to not include wifi, i.e. some missing hardware. If it's just a driver, that is the so friggen stupid! Why have such a great phone and then neuter it by taking away wifi? And the price is still just as high as the Artemis when it came out. The lack of wifi is the only thing that would keep me from buying one. Otherwise, it would be a great upgrade phone for me since I don't need nor have 3G with my service and and it has the cool flush screen that I wish my Artemis had.

someone knows if the touch dual then also could have the wifi option turned on by drivers? the touch normal has wifi, so i guess it should be possible.
anyone tried the drivers from the htc wizard? it also has a ti omap 850, so driver from such a rom could be coocked into the rom of other devices.

@VOODOOS!L
The touch dual uses the Qualcomm 7200 chipset. That chipset uses the arm926tesj as a co processor but i dont think its the full OMAP 850 chiset.
but there is a project for enabling niki wifi (started out as a project ot enabkle both wifi and gps)
@shawndh
Phone manufacterors do it all the time. Look at the Kaiser story, yes they have some great graphical chip (would be too expensive to make a different chiset with another graphical chip) so they just didnt include the drivers for it.
With some other phones like the touch HTC disabled the wifi in the radio rom... maybe some techies here could try to put an artemis radio rom in the pharos... but for none techies this would probably be an instant brick (thats why i didnt try it) tom_codon maybe you could say something about this....input would be apreciated.

Come to think of it, I remember that they had a crippled GPS radio or something in the TyTn I. The only reason I could think of for disabling wifi is so people who need wifi would buy the the Artemis. To be honest, if I had a choice btwn the two, I would get the Pharos over the Artemis if they both had wifi. Even so, it should still have wifi.

This ia a good news.
I'm waiting.

you know what... im giving up.
ive tried pm ing some guys working on the wifi on nike project, asking tomcodon. no response as yet and prolly not going to get one.
And tried to get qtopia and winlizard(gizard) working.
but in the linux world up is down, left is right, and smart is stupid. those people are (in dutch: contactgestoord) communicationally challenged. you cant find anything on their sites. there is no(or very little) documentation on how stuff works ...noone explains anything... so in order to learn linux you have to know it.
thats why m$ can afford to be so sucky: their competition sucks so much more
i said to the guys at irc #linzwizard hey thnx for the build, i can boot it too (gizard aka linwizard 0.3.0) but the touchscreen driver crashes.
he then said make a support request at sourceforge which i did (btw it isnt obvious how to .. it should be very simple. but hey... thats the linux way, isnt it) response was.. and this is a shocker.. your touchscreen driver doesnt work(.... grrreeeaat) you should disable it...(no description on how)

up for the rom with wifi for the pharos!
Thanks

Not to rain on anyone parade but from the first page from TI, it looks like to get wifi support you have to have a special chip in the phone(upper left corner) thats diferent that the chip to get wifi, so unless someone knows for sure that the WiLink chips are present, I think we are without wifi

Wait and see...
The only problem is... How long does it take to finalize such a ROM?
If it takes 1 yr, for example, I think I will have already changed to at least TouchHD..
Anyway, good news!

Hello! I have a HTC Pharos for one month. Yesterday, i accidentally have wetted phone by tea, and then i disassembled it for cleaning. Cleaning was finish sucсessfully, now phone is working
During disassembly of the device I have made some pictures. I think Wlan module is in the device. Look at the photo! Motherboard have many connectors for external antennas, and Wlan connector is on the board!
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos.jpg

thank you for the picture, its in a good resolution! but what would have made it more clear is if you would have looked for a specific Texas instruments chip with letter combinaton BRF or BL (there are 4 chips mentioned with a dual solution BL6450 BRF 6350 BRF6300 and BRF6150 last one is not good because its a bluetooth only chip) we should also be looking for TI chips with a WL designation and number 1271 1273 1251 1253
at least (BRF6300) - Bluetooth specification v2.0 + EDR single chip should be in the Pharos since we have that bluetooth spec.
in the picture i can make out the TWL3027 chip with extra designation BZQW (at least i think its that chip ... according to the ti site that would be the baseband chip but it doesnt describe on the site what the extra letters mean)http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12311&contentId=4706
[URL="http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12025&contentId=4645&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+mwlan"]http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12019&contentId=4635&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+bluetooth[/URL]
hope this is readable since i have a hangover

Kostyan could you post the other pics you made of the interior of the Pharos

avathar behemoth said:
thank you for the picture, its in a good resolution! but what would have made it more clear is if you would have looked for a specific Texas instruments chip with letter combinaton BRF or BL (there are 4 chips mentioned with a dual solution BL6450 BRF 6350 BRF6300 and BRF6150 last one is not good because its a bluetooth only chip) we should also be looking for TI chips with a WL designation and number 1271 1273 1251 1253
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Maybe this iron box is Wlan module?
http://flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos2.jpg
I may open this box, if it is requires for this research
And on this picture, front side of device it is found Wlan antenna? (if overwind board, supposed Wlan module with connector correspond (matched) to on position with Wlan antenna, and it connected with module)
http://flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos3.jpg

avathar behemoth said:
Kostyan could you post the other pics you made of the interior of the Pharos
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Of course, there is all photos:
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos2.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos3.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos4.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos5.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos6.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos7.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos8.jpg

Cool P660 (Pharos WiFi + 624 Mhz CPU)?

I saw this one on ebay, supposedly it is a 200 mhz P660 upgraded to a 624 Mhz CPU and WiFi enabled. I do note that the detailed description says WLAN: NO.
Anyone know about this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-COOL-P660-P...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:16|39:1|240:1318
From the listing:
NOTE: Main Features
1. Built in WiFi
2. 200MHZ CPU updated to 624MHZ CPU
3. 5 ways buttons(no the Wheel button)
4. Tri-band GSM 900/1800/1900MHZ
6. Can install Android OS
7. Built in GPS,supports iGO Australian Maps
8. include 2GB TF/supports Max 8GB TF memory Card(Cost more 30AU)
General 2G Network GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900
Announced 2009, February
Status Available. Released 2009, February
Size Dimensions 108 x 58.3 x 15.7 mm
Weight 122 g
Display Type TFT touchscreen, 65K colors
Size 240 x 320 pixels, 2.8 inches
- Handwriting recognition
Ringtones Type Polyphonic, MP3
Customization Download, order now
Vibration Yes
Memory Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
Call records Practically unlimited
Card slot microSD (TransFlash),
- 128 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM
- PXA 310, 624 Mhz processor
Data GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48 kbps
HSCSD No
EDGE No
3G No
WLAN No
Bluetooth Yes, v2.0 with A2DP
Infrared port No
USB Yes, miniUSB
Features OS Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.0 Professional
Messaging SMS, MMS, Email, Instant Messaging
Browser WAP 2.0/xHTML, HTML (PocketIE)
Games Yes, order now
Colors Black
Camera 2 MP, 1600x1200 pixels, video, macro
- Built-in GPS
- Pocket Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF viewer)
- Java MIDP 2.0
- Voice memo
- MP3/AAC player
- Video/audio album
- Built-in handsfree
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1100 mAh
Stand-by Up to 240 h
Talk time Up to 5 h 50 min

This phone is not made by HTC.

larrychen629 said:
This phone is not made by HTC.
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If you take a look at it, it comes from the 3470 (or rather, the P660). I think that they have removed the CPU and replaced it with a faster one.
Those pictures are a P660/P3470, there can be no question.

its a dopod htc for the chinese and japanese (east asian) market
http://dopod.com/pc/product/p660_1.php
but ehm not an upgraded processor and no wifi....
(oh and my simplified chinese is very bad so id ont know what it says)
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1599

avathar behemoth said:
its a dopod htc for the chinese and japanese (east asian) market
http://dopod.com/pc/product/p660_1.php
but ehm not an upgraded processor and no wifi....
(oh and my simplified chinese is very bad so id ont know what it says)
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1599
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I realize that the Dopod 660 is the same as the P3470, and it has the same Specs.
But the Ebay add specifically said that they had upgraded the OMAP to a different CPU, and that WiFi was enabled. I asked the seller about this.

what did the seller say about it?

avathar behemoth said:
what did the seller say about it?
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He said it was "OEM" and that the CPU was indeed fast (presumably no longer the OMAP850), and that WiFi was present. I wasn't interested in buying one, so I didn't ask about the language (English, I guess, the auction was in AU $), warranty, etc.

very strange, so they changed the cpu,.. and the motherboard presumably...so then its a different phone

avathar behemoth said:
very strange, so they changed the cpu,.. and the motherboard presumably...so then its a different phone
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I think they just swapped out the CPU and added drivers for the WiFi. The external form factor and the other specifications are identical to the P660 / P3470.
Either they licensed the design from HTC, or they "borrowed" it. Or maybe HTC is building them for another company - HTC often does that, although it is usually common knowledge when this happens.

euhm they would also have to put in a wifi chip... that is unless ours is disabled... i would love to get a copy of that rom!!

avathar behemoth said:
euhm they would also have to put in a wifi chip... that is unless ours is disabled... i would love to get a copy of that rom!!
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There is a whole thread about enabling WiFi on the HTC Pharos; evidently the OMAP 850 has WiFi built in, but HTC chose not to support WiFi. They have had no luck enabling it in the Pharos. I suspect there is a hardware issue, i.e., there is no connection from the OMAP to an antenna.

stevedebi said:
There is a whole thread about enabling WiFi on the HTC Pharos; evidently the OMAP 850 has WiFi built in, but HTC chose not to support WiFi. They have had no luck enabling it in the Pharos. I suspect there is a hardware issue, i.e., there is no connection from the OMAP to an antenna.
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hehehe i know i started that thread... we didnt succeed in identifying a couple of chips.. so we dont know if there is an actual antenna connection... and we have confirmed that Pharos does not have a bluetooth/wifi in one chip
so if the coolp660 has wifi and ONLY the processor is changed... that would be very significant! then our pharos is "wifi ready" just needs to be enabled!

avathar behemoth said:
hehehe i know i started that thread... we didnt succeed in identifying a couple of chips.. so we dont know if there is an actual antenna connection... and we have confirmed that Pharos does not have a bluetooth/wifi in one chip
so if the coolp660 has wifi and ONLY the processor is changed... that would be very significant! then our pharos is "wifi ready" just needs to be enabled!
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The items are no longer for auction on ebay (the auctions ended, and no more are listed). I'm not entirely sure it wasn't a scam anyway; the item was from Hong Kong, but the listing was in AU $. It seemed funny to me, not to mention that the device was obviously a P3470 case and specification - except for the CPU and WiFi.

This is an awsome Phone!!!!!!
Well for a noob like myself I think it is. This phone is also considered a V990.
It has Windows Mobile 6 Pro / CE os 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2). with a PXA310 @ 624MHZ, 256/128. It's also VERY affordable. I have no clue as to what the OS is compatable to OEM, Cooked, or other OS could replace it. any info on this would be greatly appreciated by far. Thanks in advanced for any info and I hope this phone does alot better than the DAXIAN X999+

of course
yes it has WIFI too

if it does have the PXA processor then its a significantly different phone than the p3470...so much for getting that rom ...

so i've got this phone, it says it has 624mhz cpu and wifi is working
if you want it's rom, pictures or screenshots - just tell me how to do it

Hello:
Has anbybody purchased and got this phone (p660 with wifi, Marvel PXA312 @ 624Mhz) recently? From which supplier?
Thank you!

chinese phone

xmdan said:
Has anbybody purchased and got this phone (p660 with wifi, Marvel PXA312 @ 624Mhz) recently? From which supplier?
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've got it from here http://solomobi.com/viewproduct.asp?pro_id=2465

rilgsm.dll?

Try to find a device ROM from which we can extract a compatible, yet better, rilgsm.dll ...the Ipaq 61x and 91x has a well-known problem where the GSM radio doesn't expose the Cell Tower ID to the OS (limiting the "My Location" feature in Google Maps to use the standard GPS only without cell tower triangulation and preventing the useful operation of other apps like Navizon). I am convinced that this problem stems to the rilgsm.dll file in which HP has not implemented this feature (but HTC certainly has).
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So this was from an older ROM build... and I'm wondering if anyone has been focusing on this issue lately. It would be a HUGE improvement to the usability of Google Maps on the 91x (and maybe 61x) if we could get this done...

Strange, my Google Maps on 614c does use the cell tower triangulation. After some time my position is shown within 80m. Anyway any other software with use the Cell ID doesnt work.

Jackos said:
Strange, my Google Maps on 614c does use the cell tower triangulation. After some time my position is shown within 80m. Anyway any other software with use the Cell ID doesnt work.
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that is because it use gps if available

I had my GPS off...

Jackos said:
I had my GPS off...
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No, you didn't.
That, or Google Maps found a way to automatically enable your GPS. After all, there is no hardware method of completely disabling the GPS on these phones; WinMo has low-level access via the GPS multiplexer.
I've done a lot of research on this issue. The first thing to note is that HTC is nearly the only manufacturer that implements the Cell-ID API functions in their rilgsm.dll. Google has conveniently provided the list of supported phones here. And according to pdadb.net, the only HTC device that uses a similar GSM radio chipset is the Hermes (HTC TyTN). I have cooked several different Hermes rilgsm.dll files into test ROMs for the 910c, and each time the radio simply disappears altogether.
Here is a table of GSM chipsets and the phones Google location detection supports:
(our devices, not supported)
Qualcomm MSM6280 (2x QDSP4000) - HP iPAQ 610c/612c/614c
Qualcomm MSM6280 (2x QDSP4000) - HP iPAQ 910c/912c/914c
(supported devices)
Ericsson EMP 100 - HP iPAQ hw6900 (HTC Sable)
TI TMS320C54x - HTC Herald, Atlas, Artemis, Elf (Touch),
Qualcomm MSM6260 - Samsung SGH-i780
Qualcomm MSM6275 (2x QDSP4000) - HTC Hermes, MTeoR, Trinity, Cheetah (Palm Treo 750)
Qualcomm MSM7200 (QDSP4000, QDSP5000) - HTC Polaris (Touch Cruise), HTC Neon (Touch Dual), TyTN II,
Qualcomm MSM7201 (QDSP4000, QDSP5000) - Palm Treo Pro
Qualcomm MSM7201A (QDSP4000, QDSP5000) - HTC Touch Diamond
Qualcomm MSM7225 - HTC Rose
As you can see, the closest ought to be the Hermes. But even then, if MSM6275 drivers don't work on our MSM6280 devices, we're going to need something more specific. I am unsure that any other WinMo manufacturer used the MSM6280 chipset.

I was going to say - my HP iPaq 6955 works that way with Google Maps, so I was shocked to find my 910c didn't.
I know little to nothing about working with these sorts of files... but would it be possible to "edit" two versions together? A combination, more so than a replacement?

it is a dll file so the only way to go is hex edit & disassemble, both are hard to do without much knowledge provided

Yeah, so I used the GPS at home too? Impossible... I do not get any GPS signal at home.

Jackos said:
Yeah, so I used the GPS at home too? Impossible... I do not get any GPS signal at home.
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Not impossible - I have got GPS locks from inside my apartment, sometimes inside rooms with no windows. They are satellite radio signals; they can do funny things sometimes. Which do you think is more likely?
1. You have the only iPAQ 61x in the world with working Cell-ID capability.
2. You managed to get a bit of unexpected GPS coverage.
Jeez, be rational.
As for rilgsm.dll, keyx is right - little is known about the internal workings of the file, and it hasn't been reverse-engineered. The things I know about it are drawn from a related project on xda-devs, which is to get Rogers "Name Display" working on non-Rogers HTC phones in Canada (Name Display is a protocol that Rogers & Fido use to transmit names along with numbers for call display, even if you don't have the number in your address book already). This has been accomplished with limited success by substituting the rilgsm.dll file from official Rogers phones with similar (identical) GSM radios, and changing a few registry entries.
I fear that MSM6280 is different enough from MSM6275 that we're out of luck there. We need to try something from the Polaris or the Kaiser, but the MSM7200 seems even more different.

So tell me how im getting an position just anywhere? The upper left corner of Google Maps shows "Seeking GPS satellities (0)..." and my position is shown propertly. Even if I disable the GPS function my position is shown... Strange, indeed.
I don't say that i get the Cell ID, just my cell tower triangulation is working fine.

Here's what I want you to do: take a short drive outside of where that "My Location" dot is showing up. Make sure "Use GPS" is OFF, and tell me if your location updates. I have a feeling you are just looking at the last results of when your GPS was working.
Also - what is the estimate of accuracy for the blue dot? When I used it on my 6945, it was often 900m or more...

Jackos said:
So tell me how im getting an position just anywhere? The upper left corner of Google Maps shows "Seeking GPS satellities (0)..." and my position is shown propertly. Even if I disable the GPS function my position is shown... Strange, indeed.
I don't say that i get the Cell ID, just my cell tower triangulation is working fine.
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Okay, then hit "0" when GPS is disabled. Does it tell you that "My Location" is not supported?

in google map, go to about, at the bottom it has some line like
myl:
wifi:
if the phone does not support mylocation,you will see myl: N/A

benjaminries said:
Okay, then hit "0" when GPS is disabled. Does it tell you that "My Location" is not supported?
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Nope, it just shows my position.

gfinockio said:
Here's what I want you to do: take a short drive outside of where that "My Location" dot is showing up. Make sure "Use GPS" is OFF, and tell me if your location updates. I have a feeling you are just looking at the last results of when your GPS was working.
Also - what is the estimate of accuracy for the blue dot? When I used it on my 6945, it was often 900m or more...
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I flashed yesterday a new rom build, are the coordinates build into the gps reciever or what? I didnt get a fix since this so i really dont know how this phone knows.

keyx said:
in google map, go to about, at the bottom it has some line like
myl:
wifi:
if the phone does not support mylocation,you will see myl: N/A
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Yes, it does show "myl: N/A".

Jackos said:
Yes, it does show "myl: N/A".
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Then I'm guessing it was just your last known location shown before. Sorry, your phone is NOT supported.

benjaminries said:
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Here is a table of GSM chipsets and the phones Google location detection supports:
(our devices, not supported)
Qualcomm MSM6280 (2x QDSP4000) - HP iPAQ 610c/612c/614c
Qualcomm MSM6280 (2x QDSP4000) - HP iPAQ 910c/912c/914c
(supported devices)
Ericsson EMP 100 - HP iPAQ hw6900 (HTC Sable)
TI TMS320C54x - HTC Herald, Atlas, Artemis, Elf (Touch),
Qualcomm MSM6260 - Samsung SGH-i780
Qualcomm MSM6275 (2x QDSP4000) - HTC Hermes, MTeoR, Trinity, Cheetah (Palm Treo 750)
Qualcomm MSM7200 (QDSP4000, QDSP5000) - HTC Polaris (Touch Cruise), HTC Neon (Touch Dual), TyTN II,
Qualcomm MSM7201 (QDSP4000, QDSP5000) - Palm Treo Pro
Qualcomm MSM7201A (QDSP4000, QDSP5000) - HTC Touch Diamond
Qualcomm MSM7225 - HTC Rose
As you can see, the closest ought to be the Hermes. But even then, if MSM6275 drivers don't work on our MSM6280 devices, we're going to need something more specific. I am unsure that any other WinMo manufacturer used the MSM6280 chipset.
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hi, everyboby!
benjaminries (or smb else), could you please try to use driver from Samsung SGH-i900? It has msm6280, WM 6.1 PRO and supports Google maps.

according to pdadb it uses 6281 not 6280, also the 3g band is different so i highly doubt it would works for our device, also rilgsm is very specific that even if two phone has the same chipset the driver may not work in another device.
of course we can always try but someone need to provide the rilgsm.dll

hm... keyx, You are right! In service manual for Sams-i900 there is MSM6281_NSP. So, the problem of 6280 Cell-ID doesn't have solution yet?