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ok got a new xda 2i today , plugged all in to do inital first charge , but light went green straight away ( and device says main 100% backup 0% ) , how can i tell if the unit is charging the backup battery ?
sorry if this q's been asked before but after hours of searching forum i decided to register and post for help of some you experts
thanx in advance for any help
pk24
Leave it plugged in overnight then check status.
seems a bit strange to me , the backup battery should be at 100% and main battery should demisih .
once my main battery goes to 10% or under it refuses to do most things and only stores memory untill you recharge it so .........
i'd remove the battery then replace it, if that fails do a hard reset , and if that still fails , take it back to the shop as it should be 100 %
thanx for the replies , i left over night like cruisin-thru sugested and both read 100% now , guess i wasnt sure they where charging due to fact no orange amber light at top
ok after spending all night and morn reading this forum , am i right in thinking this device cant be unlocked without paying some company , and windows mobile 5 wont go on it yet ?
cheers for your help of to play with my new gadget .. bit of a upgrade from my n-gage qd and ipaq 3870
pk24
I have a jasjar recently and had problems turning off at 50 percent. It was working fine as long as power odesnt drop below 50 %. Then I bought a desktop charger (made in china) and started charging from there. That's when all this weird problems started.
When I put the fully charged battery inside sometimes it doesn't power on by pressing the power ubtton so I have to reset it to turn on. Sometimes it doesn't turn on with reset so I have to go to bootloader then reset just to turn it on. Sometimes it just won't turn on! If it does turn on sometimes the screen is white! When it does boot properly and go on standby. The lights blink but it won't wake up so I have to reset it. Sometimes while using it, the screen would just turn garbled white.
This don't happen all the time, Im actually typing this post using my jasjar and even if I charge the battery using the phone, it exhibits the same problems once in awhile.
SOLUTION FOUND!!! READ THE LAST THREAD
Any ideas? Could the battery be doing this or is my jasjar messed up? Please help!
I downgraded to wm 5 Helmi ROM and seems to work for now. I was using Helmi's wm6 so I don't know if that attributed to that. Will update.
Still didn't help.. Any ideas? Is my jasjar dying? Please help!
Battery issues
Here and elsewhere are postings which make it apparent that some after-market batteries don't work well with the Jasjar. Some electronic devices are relatively fussy about voltage and amperage levels, and some off-brand batteries are fairly wide of the mark in those regards. Not necessarily on the low side, either.
The problem is not limited just to computers. I had an electronic remote reading thermometer whose display went nuts; the manufacturer asked whether I was using EverReady or Duracell batteries. When I replied no, I was using Ikea batteries, they told me I had to use EverReady or Duracell batteries or I was likely to encounter the problem, and they're right: using those batteries fixed the problem. Not that the Ikea batteries were bad, mind you: their power level (voltage and amperage both) were actually too high, according to the manufacturer, and my VOM tester confirmed their assertion.
Somewhere on this forum is a link to an eBay supplier of batteries which work reliably in the Jasjar. Good hunting! Cheers,
Thanks but I'm using the original battery. So do you think that the desktop charger did something to the battery?
may be it caused by a desktop charger. When i used a chaeger made in chine for my alpine, sometime the screen goes white, or ALL buttons seems die (All button didn't work). The most terrible is that charger make my dive hard reset 2 times (first time i din't realise if it cause by my charger, then i just install all progs but when i charge, it hard reset again).
Even for 5 days after i bought it run well, except the ringtone goes on silent every time i charging.
Now i throw away that thing.
So its the charger!! GRRR...Anyways, even when I'm using the Jasjar to charge, everything is the same. Lockups from standby, white screen..You think I should try another battery? Any ideas?
Weird stuff / battery related?
Hi there,
dont know if anyone is reading this thread coz it is kinda old, but i have the same probs mention as above. I have the orginal bat and charger which came with the device. I also uses a car charger sold from my phone provider.
now after 14 months i have the weirdest things like shutting down randomly when the bat is about 58 thru 50 percent. I can not start the device again coz it stops in the middle of the boot process. It only starts when i connect it to a laptop by usb or to the standalone charger...
I tried differnt roms found here and radio roms but it doesnt help...
my guestion: does any one know if this prob is solved when I buy a new battery? or is it wise to thro out this universel suck device ( I have had so much probs with this device so neglect my tone...)
XCube said:
Hi there,
dont know if anyone is reading this thread coz it is kinda old, but i have the same probs mention as above. I have the orginal bat and charger which came with the device. I also uses a car charger sold from my phone provider.
now after 14 months i have the weirdest things like shutting down randomly when the bat is about 58 thru 50 percent. I can not start the device again coz it stops in the middle of the boot process. It only starts when i connect it to a laptop by usb or to the standalone charger...
I tried differnt roms found here and radio roms but it doesnt help...
my question: does any one know if this prob is solved when I buy a new battery? or is it wise to thro out this universel suck device ( I have had so much probs with this device so neglect my tone...)
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I bought my Universal (Jasjar), used, almost a year ago and use it daily. To date, I haven't had this problem, but I'm anticipating it. Yeah, I'd say it's almost surely your battery (they don't live forever), just be careful to replace it from a reliable source.
Sorry you don't like the device; I've thoroughly enjoyed mine! Cheers,
Hi,
I guess u r right, batteries will die. So I ordered a new one, I will let you guys know if it helps. I bought the qtek 35H00058-00M battery which is the orginal bat
The thing is, normally will a battery be faster drain so it would become faster 0 or 10 precent, instead this piece randomly shutting down or switches off in the middle of a phone call.
I have a Blue Angel as well, now for more then 2 years, which is charger daily just like mine unversal. The batt of the Blue Angel outruns the uni with bat life. Never had this weird stuff with the ba, like shuttingdown without a warning.
Well I will see if a new bat will fix the trouble, tomorrow my new bat will arrive.
cheers.
I also have the same issue with the 02 Exec. It switches it's self off when the battery reaches below 50%. I have ordered a new battery. Will let you know if this still happens once it arrives.
Well,
I already knew it but now its for sure at my end. HTC and ms together gives u pretty expansive CRAP.
Got my new battery which was carefully chosen because of other rumours of battery problems. I bought exactly the same battery from QTEK as the original.
Yesterday i got the battery, left it alone to get on room temp. this morning switch it with my old battery.
1. First thing what i found strange was that my **** device said it was at 100%
2. after 45 min I had the same bat prob as with my old battery
3. device can not be started on bat power, which would let u think that the bat would be ZERO procent. However turning the device on when on wall power this **** device says that the bat is 100%, but disconnecting it from the wall power it shutdowns right away.
conclusion:
the new battery is worse then the old bat. the only difference between them is the serial number. same type same manufacturer.
I was already think of buying a non HCT / Micro**** mobile device, but today after 14 months of trouble and losing important phone calls I am going to say good bye to this universal crap.
I wise u the best with our device but for me it ends here.
UPDATE:
Used a 3800 mah battery from expansys, made in Taiwan by Dyna and still same problems...not battery related at all...Anybody got a mainboard they can sell me...even a broken miniusb.
Problem and solution found
The Problem is a faulty voltage controller in the mainboard causing Bulverde CPU to hang and give funny colors to the screen
Solution is to disable Cpu scaling of Bulverde by using pocket hack master and setting speed at 312mhz before turning it of or closing the screen. You could always set it at 520 when using it but before turning it off make sure speed is 312. Hopefully this helps others with this problem.
Hello,
I know that there have been previous discussions on battery problems, but after doing my best to read through, I'm still a bit unsure and wasn't able to find an exact solution nor an identical match to my problem.
My problem is that recently my XDA Exec has gone from lasting around 6 or 7 hours to less than 20 minutes when using GPRS on lowest backlight and no sound.
When it goes off, the battery meter still has aroubd 95% left showing so it is really quite puzzling. What happens is that after around 20 minutes, the LCD just fades away into black and the device completely dies, no sign of life.
Trying to turn it on or reset it both result in a soft reset, and the device comes up to the O2 Logo fine, loads for a few seconds, gets to the WM logo screen and then the LCD fades away and it dies again.
The only solution is to connect it up to the power, after which it then works fine while powered, indicating some sort of power or battery problem. When plugged back in, the battery meter is still at around 90% or so and goes all he way back up to 100%.
Does anyone have any ideas as to what might be the problem and what might be a good solution? Would buying a new battery help (although the battery meter does indicate the battery is still nearly full and estimates around 6 hours usage)? Do I need to send it in for repair?
Thanks very much in advance, any advice or help would be greatly appreciated
Quboid
You should wait for the experts to help but from my intuition it really sounds like a battery problem. Lithium batteries can act very strangely if they are faulty. If nothing else works you may want to try and get a new one. Better than throwing the device in my opinion.
I don't know that I'd count myself with the "experts," but my similar problem was solved by getting a new battery. Mine too would "fade" off and then only come back on when it was plugged in. And the "fade" happened at around 70% power, so by all appearances it should have had much more time left. This was a battery that was about 15 months old, but with quite a bit of daily usage.
Go for the new battery.
Welcome to about 10 months ago when this happened to almost everybody. Get a new battery, problem solved.
Thanks for the replies,
I guess I was just surprised it might be the battery itself that's dieing, seeing as the fact it still shows charge and that it doesn't get heavy usage, only a few times per month and it's only just gone a year and furthermore, compared to my old Pocket PC which had a lot more usage and still is working fine seven years later.
Am I right in thinking that this is what I need to purchase? Wouldn't want to get the wrong thing
Thanks again for the help
Quboid said:
Am I right in thinking that this is what I need to purchase? Wouldn't want to get the wrong thing
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That's the one!
Right, i have looked at most of these battery problems and my issue is the same as Quboid so, of I toddle off and purchase a new battery and guess what..!! Still the same, the damm thing shuts down with around 85% full charge.
What I cannot accept is the fact that this problem suddenly appears after no battery issues for the 12 months of owning the unit, you would have thought if the battery was going belly up that it would gradually happen but no...it just happens..!!, now is it that the new battery is dead...not so sure becasue at the place i work there are several universals around amd i have tried different batteries and still the same problem...
Could it be something to do with the unerversal thinking the battery is dead or is it reading a false level of charge...do you need to hard reset when adding a new battery..??
This is getting me down, after months of no problems there is nothing worse than a dead machine after 20 minutes of a full charge.
on ebay you can find batteries that could be docked into a sort of charger and charge without the use of the fone.
are these any good?
It depends on the type of the battery. If you just take your phone to the shop where you bought it, and have them give you a new battery, you'll be fine.
The original batteries only last about 6-10 months, and then they will need replacing.
Thats what i have, a new battery from the suppliers...
I've got the same problem.
My XDA dies after about ten minute's use with a full battery. I have purchased a new battery and it still dies.
I've reinstalled the ROM -- which is the standard latest O2 ROM.
I've tried it on the O2 setup, and the non-O2 setup.
I'm running nothing extra software wise -- even completely clean it dies.
I wanted to keep it running until the Omni or I-Mate Ultimate 7150 comes out, so this is really a pain.
Any other suggestions gratefully received.
hmm
theambler said:
I've got the same problem.
My XDA dies after about ten minute's use with a full battery. I have purchased a new battery and it still dies.
I've reinstalled the ROM -- which is the standard latest O2 ROM.
I've tried it on the O2 setup, and the non-O2 setup.
I'm running nothing extra software wise -- even completely clean it dies.
I wanted to keep it running until the Omni or I-Mate Ultimate 7150 comes out, so this is really a pain.
Any other suggestions gratefully received.
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My oh My,..
i got the same exact problem, i bought two new betteries one of them is 3150mAh
downgraded to O2 rom official, and still dies at 85%
i was thinking about getting a desktop charger. till i noticed something..
when you charge your handset it charges up 100% but the charger indicator light remains on orange. (and says charging on the soft version)
it should turn green when its full, now shouldnt it.
leaving the phone to charge till the light turns green and ignoring the software reader could charge the battery, (it would still die at 85% thought)
weird problem.. i am sure now that it is a handset problem, because both the battery and the OS (rom) were changed, and still with same results.
can anyone think of something we can try?
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come on ppl.. think.. lols
i heva that problem to!!
hi thare i have the that problem to any way to fix it ?
I have the similar problem, except it dies at cca. 30% capacity.
As I can see there are a lot of users with this problem on this device.
I am new to this device, I've been using Wizard till now and just recently bought the Universal that is over a year old.
This battery problem really iritates me.
If ANYONE has a solution to this problem that will actually work I beg him to share it with us that are new to this device.
Well, this seems to be a problem that cannot be answered, as i mentioned before, my unit is a M5000, standard issue without any rom upgrades, new battery from from the Orange shop yet it still fails at even 95%. Gonna try a hard reset because I am sure it is a software issue, i did read somewere that the machine "thinks" it is fully charged/discharged and when you put a new battery in you need to do a re set to position the unit to basic state.
Lets see what happens.
My battery problem solved
Short time ago I suffered likewise problems with my MDA pro. After reading all the comments I decided to go for a new battery from handit. With this installed the problems even worsened, regardless which charger, or cable, or combination thereof, I used. So I swallowed my avarice and bought a new battery from T-Mobile, assured that this is the one they deliver with their phones, and now everything works fine!
It seems that there are slight differences between the batteries from diefferent manufacturers, and the pro might misinterpret the signals from the battery's electronics.
By the way - have you noticed the little red slider adjacent to the baterry with which it is fixed into the housing? If you do not put it into the 'lock' position the connection between the device and the battery becomes unreliable. It may well be that a heating-up of the battery while being charged disconnects it from its contacts!
Its a well known problem, after 9-10 months the battery cannot handle high powered functions causing it to turn off.
Get a new battery and you'll be sorted.
a 3150mah from ebay is only about £10-£15 but will make your universal a bit fatter. (they provide the larger cover for the back)
Yeh fine,,,all well an good if you do not use a jasjar car tray or holder as such, the soddin thing will not fit in it with this slug on its back
Qtek 9000 battery probs
Hi everybody
All I can say is I'm having det excact same problems with a Qtek 9000. Have tried changing batteries. Have even bought an extra extended battery (3150 mAh), and all for nothing. It worked for a brief periode. But now I'm back to square one again. The darn thing dies on me, even though the battery is charged (70-90%).
Have had a dialog with Qtek, but they claim they havn't heard of the problem before
Have been trying to figure out what the problem is..... and have tried to solve it with various workarounds.... Situation right now... Im pretty sure it's the battery on the systemboard that's causing the problems.
It kind of makes sense IMO... if you have a PC with a faulty battery nothing will work.
I'm going to see if I can get the battery changed (still have warranty). Keep your fingers crossed. I'll get back to you all if it fixes my problems.
My Neo all of a sudden went blank since saturday.It so happened..
I wanted to make a call, I removed my NEO from POCKET and It just showed the GREEN LED BLINKKING the POWER button dint responded at all..
I had to reset the NEO and now its not showing any thing
Does not respond to the wall charger nor any LED only thing happen is the phone gets heated on Charging(as usual as it did earlier)
Does any one know the trick of stripping the wall charger and than short the pins ...
Which is the 1st Pin from bottom or from top..
Or ANY OTHER ADVICE PLS HELP ME!!
Where could be the problem as this problem had occured earlier also i remember it was 07/07/07 and I was in office and same the neo went BLANK.
Lucky was I in the evening I went home plugged in the wall charger and it came to life in around 21~30minutes
Hope my NEO is back to life soon !!
Is it really nothing to worry about or shall I start looking for a new phone
Hi...
This same thing happened to my Neo a couple of days back...
here is the trick .. charge it till you see the green led light meaning it charged 100%
THEN keep the battery pack seperate from the phone.
meaning dismental it for a whole day (24 hrs) in a dry place ....
after a day the NEo will work....
my sure did...
rekcah said:
Hi...
This same thing happened to my Neo a couple of days back...
here is the trick .. charge it till you see the green led light meaning it charged 100%
THEN keep the battery pack seperate from the phone.
meaning dismental it for a whole day (24 hrs) in a dry place ....
after a day the NEo will work....
my sure did...
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I had kept it to charge for the entire night yesterday,thatz around 7~6hrs
the LED does not turn GREEN at all..
I will try to remove the BATT for whole night today..
Any other trick meanwhile,
Also does any one know why does this happen firstly.
Is it because the processor just goes to DEEP SLEEP below 50MHz or there is a problem with IPL or some other stuipid thing
Mine is a G4.and had last installed the PDAViet Touch Flo v5
Any one els who can advice me on this.
Any one had the same error earlier!!
Well you might as well try with other battery. If the old one is not charging it might be dead... Have you tried measuring it?
Had Any One Faced Such A Problem!!
chavdar said:
Well you might as well try with other battery. If the old one is not charging it might be dead... Have you tried measuring it?
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I had given it in repairs..
they informed me that even after installing the BATT prophet shows no sign..
I just dont understand what is the problem has any one els faced such a problem
Rip-prophet??
I just had a word with a service guy where I had given it for repairs!!
He informed me the problem has got notihng to do with the software aspect.
He confirmed its a hardware [email protected]@
Can any one recommed me where can I get the phone repaired in India>>Mumbai..
I Think I will buy a CHEAP nokia now as I dont have enough money to spend again on a expensive phone like this one!!
I feel that the processor has gone in a deep sleep any ways to retrive it to 195Mhz...
Or is it the problem with the IPL/SPL
pls HELP and pray for My PROPHET for its LONG LIFE
Its been almost 15days now and still my neo is not working..
The repaires guy told me that may be something is gone wrong mainly because I had dropped the phone from my hand some 5~10days back before it went DEAD.
Can u guys tell me how manny of u have LOST their PDA phone s after it failed to repair..with the reason for the failure like short circuit or just like mine!!
Can any one help me with the service manual for prophet
I dont know how true is this ...
What if i m not able to get it repaired at all here in Mumbai>>INDIA..
Any one can help me with the board of neo or some solution in repairs..
I feel that the PDA manufacturers must atleast make the phones RIGID or shock proof just like nokia..so it can take some jerk!!and we dont have to LOOSE our valuable phones..
I m afraid but I dont think I shall ever buy a PDA phone again...mainly because its too much expensive for their limited LIFE SPAN just like in my case..
Hey Mate,
When I first got my prophet, it did the same thing, no lights, nothing. I had the battery replaced with an NON-OFFICIAL prophet battery (i.e, A cheap unbranded one), and it went - it's running perfectly now too with WM6
owenw said:
Hey Mate,
When I first got my prophet, it did the same thing, no lights, nothing. I had the battery replaced with an NON-OFFICIAL prophet battery (i.e, A cheap unbranded one), and it went - it's running perfectly now too with WM6
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Hey buddy thx
I shall surely try with a new batt..
fing crossed.
Any progress on this???
i ja sam zakucao svog.. .
pozdrav iz "susjednog" zg-a futogu...
anyone figuired this out? my phone is dead too, i lost my charger a few days ago and i've been charging it with my laptop, until a few days where it ran out of juice, when i plugged it back in, it never turned out, im tried leavign it plugged in for 24 hrs, tried other adapters, kept the battery out..etc
nothingg!! Helpppp
Hi All,
I bought a replacement battery for my SG2 for longer battery life from M0bilefun, I inserted the new battery into the phone and left it to charge as their was no power but i got this grey battery icon come up every 10-20sec with a circle in the middle, thought it needed a full charge so i left it over night on charge but still the battery has no power, so thinking it must be a bad batch or something i have replaced it back with my genuine battery which I had around 70% charge left and now the exact same issue, the phone refuses to start and this stupid grey icon and that's all i get
the charger is plugged into the mains on a Belkin Pro AV surge protector extension cable.
any help or advice would be appreciated?
PS: reading the battery packaging it only comes with 6 month warranty which cannot be good otherwise it would have come with longer warranty - i wish i had known that.
a5ian300zx
Forgot to mention that I have tried doing a Hard Reset (power+volume down + home button) but nothing happens at all.
also i have the latest version of CriskeloRom v14 installed
a5ian300zx
this is weird hot swapping the batteries around with the Andida and samsung it seem to work now with the andida battery, I will give it a full charge and see how it goes.
a5ian300zx
Please tell us how you fix it, for those people having the same issue
Hi,
I just swapped the battery over to the samsung one and then back to the Andida and seems to have resolved itself, but the battery life seems to decrease quite fast i fully charged it at 10am today and im one 55% with only one 5 min call made to day at 3g/data off, wifi on. and i used the wifi for around 20min.
but i will see in the next week or so, to let it wear in after few charges.
a5ian300zx
Dear a5ian300zx, my phone diad and it did not worked at all after installing Andida Battery 2000mAh. Ckeckout my new thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17076763
I took my phone to Samsung Service Center. The technician told me that the battery sensor indicator chip is damaged in the main-board and need to be replaced.
you might have the same problem. **** Andida Company, we have to sue them for dmanging our SGS2