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Batteries shorting out on Hermes

I've had my Hermes now for 7 months, and I'm on my third battery. The OEM lasted about 6 months, the extended battery lasted 3 months.
There's no warning...just shuts off and will not turn back on...ever with those batteries. Replace the battery, and it works fine.
Anyone else have this happen? I also have a Wizard for that's a couple of years old and it's still on the original battery.

tvone said:
I've had my Hermes now for 7 months, and I'm on my third battery. The OEM lasted about 6 months, the extended battery lasted 3 months.
There's no warning...just shuts off and will not turn back on...ever with those batteries. Replace the battery, and it works fine.
Anyone else have this happen? I also have a Wizard for that's a couple of years old and it's still on the original battery.
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Need more detail. I assume you charged it occasionally
Did you find the battery drained excessively quickly - say in just a couple of hours?
Have you ever hard reset the phone?
What happened with these batteries when you tried re-charging them?
Did you get the constant red LED when charging?
Mike

I have the same problem, it takes about 5 h to drain the batteri:-(
I start up the phone and leave it on the desk without doing anything.... and after 5 h the batteri is dead.
I have installed the latest rom, tried without the sim-card, everything!
The problem started from one day to the other.
mvh lars

mikechannon said:
Need more detail. I assume you charged it occasionally
I usually throw it on the charger every night.
Did you find the battery drained excessively quickly - say in just a couple of hours? No, the batteries behaved fine, with streaming and programs being used like word and PIE, it will last all day.
Have you ever hard reset the phone?
I've hard-reset a few times...currently running BlackIV and 1.41. The first battery died using Black 2.5 and then 3.0. BTW- love the BlackIV.
What happened with these batteries when you tried re-charging them?
Red light on the phone, and they get HOT!
Did you get the constant red LED when charging? With the dead batteries yes, with a new battery, no.
Mike
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I now have ordered a couple of extra batteries just to have around. I don't want to have to wait a week for a battery.

tvone said:
I now have ordered a couple of extra batteries just to have around. I don't want to have to wait a week for a battery.
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Well that's a puzzler alright. I can understand 1 maybe even two batteries ending up faulty but more than that! Now if you were just getting the red LED then we might have considered a not infrequent problem folks report here on that situation (usually caused by the battery draining to a very low level and refusing to start charging again). BUT you said your battery despite the not charging, red LED, gets hot and that I have not seen reported.
To be honest I think you may have a hardware fault (possibly intermittent that is damaging the battery. Likely sources of the fault would be the battery connections (poor contacts at battery or at m/board) or in the battery charging controller circuit. Just possible that it might be at the USB socket. Non of these apart from a routine check of the battery contacts are easy to check, which of course is a real pain if you are out of warranty.
Mike

Just a thought - but do you have access or could you aquire a desktop cradle with a slot for charging a spare battery? (Available for about £10ukp on ebay and other various places)
If you're out of warranty (or even in warranty), firstly this would give you a chance to keep your batteries charged without charging in your Hermes itself (and hopefully eliminate a hardware fault). Also, some of your knackered batteries may be "recovered" by charging them in an external charging cradle.
I had a red-light charging problem with ONE battery myself which was cured by charging the battery overnight in a cradle rather than in the device itself.
...might be worth a try?

My battery function is a little strange too, though I haven't had my 8525 long enough to have killed the battery.
I charge it on a USB cable. It charges very quickly, and when it is charged I unplug it. After this, the battery drains VERY fast and the device gets hot. It is NOT hot while charging. If the device goes into sleep mode after this, it won't wake up w/o a soft reset.
I've found that doing a soft reset right after charging fixes this behavior. It's almost like my 8525 does not realize it has been unplugged from the USB cable, and it overstresses the battery by trying to draw too much power from it.
Usually my battery will last three to four days even with heavy use, provided I soft-reset it when I'm done charging it. If I don't, it will last just a few hours -- though I typically end up having to soft reset it anyway because as I said if it goes into sleep mode after charging it, it won't come out of it w/o doing the soft reset.
It might be a good general rule to perform a soft reset after charging this thing. It's worked for me, anyway.

I also developed the dreaded white screen problem too. After talking with At&T Business Customer Service, they overnighted a new phone.
Just speculation...I think it was some type of hardware failure that caused the batteries to run hot and fail. I feel this also contributed to white screen from excessive heat.
New phone ran fine all weekend. Charging did not generate heat, and had no white screen of death.
Side note...WM5 is horrible compared to the latest WM6 upgrades found here. I couldn't wait to get this phone re-flashed!

Yeah ... it sounds like it is definitely necessary to soft-reset after charging.

Major Battery Issues

I've been having problems with my battery for a week now, I noticed it wouldn't charge to 100% so that the green light comes on it will just goto 99% and then stay there. The battery then drains so fast, like literally I will be on 1% in an hour and a half.
So I tried a full reset of the phone and that didn't work. I also bought a new battery and that didn't work so I'm guessing the phone might well be knackered.
Also the phone seems to be really hot I never noticed it that hot before.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Replace battery immediately! Do not attempt to charge it anymore, it could go very bad!

I did, I bought a new battery and the same thing happens.
I have to have it on charge constantly all day.

Maybe charging control unit(in phone) is damaged, or charger is not working properly.
Can you check voltage on charger?
Also are you sure you use original battery manufactured by HTC?

Right here, my problem

CHARGING ISSUE - shouldi be worried?

I bought a second hand HD2, however it arrived with a third-party chinese battery. I contacted the seller who apologised and said that battery was a replacement because the original didn't hold a good charge, and he would send the original through the post. The battery however was fully charged so I flashed all the neccessary files and installed NAND Android (my reason for buying it in the first place), however today - the same day it arrived - I noticed that the orange charge light was going off, usually when the phone screen went off. This necessitated plugging the USB lead back in again, and within sometimes less than a minute the same problem would occur. I have checked the battery prongs, reset the the phone, changed USB settings etc and the problem persists.
Just wondered of I should be worried...I am unable to find an identical problem to this on the forums so I'm assuming it's not a ROM issue. I am currently using the Desire port from DFT.
Would a cheap Chinese battery demonstrate this sort of problem?
The seller says he never had an issue of charging the phone.
My next resort is to flash Windows Mobile back on, but I'm at work and a bit anxious so was hoping for someone with some experience to reassure me!
All USB syncing etc works fine...it is literally just charging that's the issue.

Maybe it's your USB that's faulty. I had a faulty usb that would go on and off sometimes too. However I don't see why the battery would affect the LED light, as the battery has to be connected to the phone for it to stay on, and so the battery can't be losing it's connection with the phone randomly, so it's either your usb cord, or the port.
Word of advice, don't let your phone lose power cuz of the faulty charging. I assume you know that MAGLDR doesn't let you charge the phone while off, so a dead battery in our case, is a dead phone. Happened to me once cuz of my usb, luckily there was still a small amount of charge left after i took the battery out and placed it back in.

It's definitely not the cable as I've used an official HTC charger with it which does exactly the same thing. I've also tried with a Samsung MicroUSB charger from my Galaxy S

Maybe it's the usb port then... That's the worst case scenario because you'd have to get the whole motherboard replaced...
However if in winmo you don't experience the problems, then it was just some software problems, so try a different radio and build, and see if they work.
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Or maybe it's the LED that's faulty. (never heard of such a situation but anything is possible) >.>
Does it still charge even if the LED is not orange/on?

Thing is though I can pretty much get it to stay charging if I don't let it lock and the screen go off? Could this still be a problem with the USB port? I'm getting worried now as I don't like the hassle of sending things back through eBay. I'm wondering if the seller bought a spare battery thinking it was just a battery problem and isn't telling the whole story. Foolishly I didn't test the device with Windows Mobile, I just went straight into flashing as I had put Android on my friend's HD2 the other day in exactly the same way...his is even an ex Virgin Mobile phone like this one. Needless to say, he is having no charging issues.

Dude dont worry , the problem is the battery ! i got two chinese battery ones and both cant charge with the phone, i have to use eksternal charger Dont worry the red and orange led flashes constantly when i try to charge it
Just buy a cheap charger from ebay , and buy a oem htc hd2 battery

Hi thanks for your reply. Mine doesn't flash red and orange though: the orange light comes on as normal and the phone reports it as charging, but after a while (seems to be when the phone goes to standby most of the time) the orange light turns off and the charging symbol disappears. If I unplug and replug again the light comes back on for a period. I've not tested thoroughly but I THINK it will stay charging when I leave the phone out of standby with the screen set to stay on for 30 minutes. I really HOPE it's a battery issue but it sounds slightly different to yours as mine does at least charge to a degree. I'm worried there's a blown capacitor somewhere on the logic board that's making the phone charge malfunction but obviously there's no way of testing until I get a new battery.
It concerns me that the seller said he had no charging problems...he must have been able to charge it somehow as the battery was full when it arrived...could I have burnt something out when flashing?!

Mine do charge to about 50 % and then it stops
Im 100 % sure its the battery becouse the battery has a circuitboard inside of it, and thats often messed up considering its made cheap in china . But test it with your friends hd2 original battery You can 2 see if the wet indicatior has been activated
the " white " paper next to the battery poles should be white and not pink, alltso where the skrewholes of the phone that should allso be white just to make sure your phone is not waterdamaget

I don't think flashing could have burnt something out. Overclocking and generating a lot of heat can burn something out though.
Didn't you receive the stock battery? Why not try it with that, and if the problem stilll persists then it might not be the battery. Either way, it will help you to test out the phone with a stock battery.

I tried it again after a few hours and it charged for a fair while before the light went off again.
I don't have the original battery as the seller has yet to mail it to me.
Does anyone else think it's worth me trying out a stock Windows Mobile ROM to see if it works? Might be that Android ROMs are less forgiving of cheap batteries with dodgy circuitry..

UPDATE
Ok so I've flashed Windows Mobile onto the device and wiped Magldr. The phone now alternates between a green and an amber light on the charging indicator. Looks like Windows Mobile won't charge it at all!
Does anyone know what this means?
I've checked for water damage in the areas mentioned and there is no sign.

Well your best bet is to send it in for repairs. But I'd suggest you test the phone out first with a stock battery.

Well I Only bought the phone yesterday so I certainly won't be paying for any repairs.
Got a replacement battery today - a genuine HTC one.
Plugged in, switched on....flashing between amber and green
I have a nagging suspicion this is going to be an eBay refund nightmare.

have you checked that the pins on the phone is not bendt? pins where battery poles connect to phone

problem solved? fingers crossed
OK so as a last resort I flashed radio 2.15 to the device. Seems that this has completely fixed the problem as without even restoring the phone is now charging properly. It seems that a corrupted radio flash had affected the charge somehow....at least I hope so.
The same problem has not come back again today at all.
Might be worth throwing this solution in a problems and solutions section as I haven't found any reference to it on the net and it might fix things for others panicking over their handsets.

That's nice.
Good for you, since it's a hassle to deal with sending back the device and shizz like that.

was just searching is anyone had a similar problem like me. to the OP yours sounds like my problem.
Had these fake OEM batteries for a while now. Until recently they have been charging ang turning off in 1 1/2 minutes. put a genuine OEM battery in and the problem is gone.
My solution was OEM can charge thru phone but fakes cant, use fakes as backup and charge it thru a desktop charger. goodluck

[Q] New battery, new phone, stuck at 5%

I just bought a brand-new Defy+, and I can't get it to charge at all. It started at 5%, and remains there. Of course, it's just out of the box, stock 2.3.6. I'm asking here because most of the threads I've seen address phones that are already rooted and using custom ROMs, with advice on how to go back to stock.
I've also got an old MB526, without a battery but on CM7.2. So I tried charging the battery in that, and get the same. Sometimes it dips to 4%, but that's it. Then after a while it gets to 5%.
Any ideas what I can do, or try? The crappy thing is that I bought it from Amazon in the US and had a friend bring it out to me in Cambodia. So there's no chance for months to buy a new battery or anything like that.

Seems like there is a problem with the battery, either the cell are short-circuited (could be because of an old battery) or the battery chip doesn' understand when the battery is full.
Usually it is possible to fix that by a full decharge-recharge, possibly with a different charger (like in your case).
If it is not the case, I'm afraid there's nothing to be done.

Thanks, @Lurkos. I tried to let it discharge, but the phone (both of them) powers off as soon as it's disconnected from the wall socket.
When you say battery chip, where is that located? On the battery, or on the phone?

Battery problem
Very likely a battery problem. If this is a $6-10 battery from ebay, then it is sure duplicate.
I ordered a couple of them from ebay.in and both turned out to be fakes.
I am still searching for original BF5X battery for my Defy.
The only solution for you to is to remove the battery and charge it with an external battery charger for this battery. I have done the same whenever the phone shuts down in the night and I cannot get it to charge after that in the morning.

Black scrren of death

Hi there,
me step-dad gave me his S7 Edge for repairing.
The problem is the following(as far as i understand)
The phone is totally stock, he made the stock update
This failed many times at ~80%
He asked for warranty repair(one year old) but the seller told him, that it is impossible because the glas pannel has a little crack which must be repaired(~200€) first which seems bull**** to me.
Now phone does not even respond.
I tried forced reboot and tried to get to bootloader and recovery with no luck and no sign of life
The phone does not seem to charge at all, no charging light(is there a led indicator?) and no screen responce
I took it with me and the original charger consumes only 1.6 watts with the phone connected which is ~7 mA
i will try to charge it for the next twelf hours and hope it is just a safety mechanism for undervolted devices
are there any advices what to do next if the device still does not charge nor show any sign of life?

11 hours later still no lifesign. powerusage of the charger is still at 7 mA. Who the hell thought it was a good idea to seal smartphones make it impossible to remove the battery? in old time if the battery was to low you just had to give a defibrilation with a 9v battery for a few seconds and most of the time it came back to life....
Anyone has an idea?

Does your pc recognize your phone as a device?

Sadly not. That would be too easy. It is totally powered off i think, the usb port does not show any powerdrain too, like the wall connector.
I think that the battery is undervolted because of the frozen update.
I know from old mobile phone that the charging process needs a minimal voltage