new xda 2i dont seem to be charging - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

ok got a new xda 2i today , plugged all in to do inital first charge , but light went green straight away ( and device says main 100% backup 0% ) , how can i tell if the unit is charging the backup battery ?
sorry if this q's been asked before but after hours of searching forum i decided to register and post for help of some you experts
thanx in advance for any help
pk24

Leave it plugged in overnight then check status.

seems a bit strange to me , the backup battery should be at 100% and main battery should demisih .
once my main battery goes to 10% or under it refuses to do most things and only stores memory untill you recharge it so .........
i'd remove the battery then replace it, if that fails do a hard reset , and if that still fails , take it back to the shop as it should be 100 %

thanx for the replies , i left over night like cruisin-thru sugested and both read 100% now , guess i wasnt sure they where charging due to fact no orange amber light at top
ok after spending all night and morn reading this forum , am i right in thinking this device cant be unlocked without paying some company , and windows mobile 5 wont go on it yet ?
cheers for your help of to play with my new gadget .. bit of a upgrade from my n-gage qd and ipaq 3870
pk24

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Device is dead when starting up in the morning.

Good day,
I own a Orange M1000 now for 4 months, (Qtek 2020)
3 weeks ago I installned the Sin Merged v2.0 rom.
No problems, everything went ok and smooth.
Yesterday when I got home I have put my phone on my desk.
When I tried to start it this morning, nothing, it won't go on.
I browsed through the forums and tried a lot.
With no result .
(Hard reset won't work, can't get into bootloader, leaving SIM and battery out for a hour, charging the device with the adaptor).
The only thing I get from the device is a red light when I put in charger without the battery in the device.
I really don't know what to do now, any help would be appreciated!
*frustrated at the moment*
I don't want to be annoying, but isn't there any one who could help me?
I really need my phone for my work and school and I have no replacement at the moment.
Really, any help at all would be very, very appreciated!
I have the same problem today, all I can do is sending back to repair
Sorry, I may be stupid but it wasnt clear to me if you charged the battery in the cradle, ie battery on charge without phone.
Take the battery out, leave the phone on the desk and pop the battery only in charger. Wait 2 hours or so (minimum), now put battery in XDA and soft reset.
That worked on mine when it went mental like this.
thanks for your reply .
I just try and seem you are right.
the backup battery all gone and I charge the o2 without battery for an hour and the backup battery for 50% charged.
Is that the only way to charge the backup battery ?
It seems the backup batter takes its charge from the main battery. So if you have a totally flat backup battery (a non removeable one inside XDA) and put a fully charged main battery in, with no charger connected you will see the backup battery slowly charge itself from empty to full from the main battery.
This seems to prevent charging when the main battery is totally dead.
The only way to get it running again is to remove the main battery and charge it outside the XDA.
This is at least what happens on my XDA, so forgive me if its different for anyone else.
Thank you for your replies,
So it worked for you allen?
My problem is, I didn't get a cradle with my phone, and I can't get ik spare here at stores.
Sending back for reparation isn't an option.
I didn;'t have a lot of moeny and I bought it second hand. (still in box though..)
Any suggestions on where to buy a cradle?

Phone Does Not POWER ON

My Neo all of a sudden went blank since saturday.It so happened..
I wanted to make a call, I removed my NEO from POCKET and It just showed the GREEN LED BLINKKING the POWER button dint responded at all..
I had to reset the NEO and now its not showing any thing
Does not respond to the wall charger nor any LED only thing happen is the phone gets heated on Charging(as usual as it did earlier)
Does any one know the trick of stripping the wall charger and than short the pins ...
Which is the 1st Pin from bottom or from top..
Or ANY OTHER ADVICE PLS HELP ME!!
Where could be the problem as this problem had occured earlier also i remember it was 07/07/07 and I was in office and same the neo went BLANK.
Lucky was I in the evening I went home plugged in the wall charger and it came to life in around 21~30minutes
Hope my NEO is back to life soon !!
Is it really nothing to worry about or shall I start looking for a new phone
Hi...
This same thing happened to my Neo a couple of days back...
here is the trick .. charge it till you see the green led light meaning it charged 100%
THEN keep the battery pack seperate from the phone.
meaning dismental it for a whole day (24 hrs) in a dry place ....
after a day the NEo will work....
my sure did...
rekcah said:
Hi...
This same thing happened to my Neo a couple of days back...
here is the trick .. charge it till you see the green led light meaning it charged 100%
THEN keep the battery pack seperate from the phone.
meaning dismental it for a whole day (24 hrs) in a dry place ....
after a day the NEo will work....
my sure did...
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I had kept it to charge for the entire night yesterday,thatz around 7~6hrs
the LED does not turn GREEN at all..
I will try to remove the BATT for whole night today..
Any other trick meanwhile,
Also does any one know why does this happen firstly.
Is it because the processor just goes to DEEP SLEEP below 50MHz or there is a problem with IPL or some other stuipid thing
Mine is a G4.and had last installed the PDAViet Touch Flo v5
Any one els who can advice me on this.
Any one had the same error earlier!!
Well you might as well try with other battery. If the old one is not charging it might be dead... Have you tried measuring it?
Had Any One Faced Such A Problem!!
chavdar said:
Well you might as well try with other battery. If the old one is not charging it might be dead... Have you tried measuring it?
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I had given it in repairs..
they informed me that even after installing the BATT prophet shows no sign..
I just dont understand what is the problem has any one els faced such a problem
Rip-prophet??
I just had a word with a service guy where I had given it for repairs!!
He informed me the problem has got notihng to do with the software aspect.
He confirmed its a hardware [email protected]@
Can any one recommed me where can I get the phone repaired in India>>Mumbai..
I Think I will buy a CHEAP nokia now as I dont have enough money to spend again on a expensive phone like this one!!
I feel that the processor has gone in a deep sleep any ways to retrive it to 195Mhz...
Or is it the problem with the IPL/SPL
pls HELP and pray for My PROPHET for its LONG LIFE
Its been almost 15days now and still my neo is not working..
The repaires guy told me that may be something is gone wrong mainly because I had dropped the phone from my hand some 5~10days back before it went DEAD.
Can u guys tell me how manny of u have LOST their PDA phone s after it failed to repair..with the reason for the failure like short circuit or just like mine!!
Can any one help me with the service manual for prophet
I dont know how true is this ...
What if i m not able to get it repaired at all here in Mumbai>>INDIA..
Any one can help me with the board of neo or some solution in repairs..
I feel that the PDA manufacturers must atleast make the phones RIGID or shock proof just like nokia..so it can take some jerk!!and we dont have to LOOSE our valuable phones..
I m afraid but I dont think I shall ever buy a PDA phone again...mainly because its too much expensive for their limited LIFE SPAN just like in my case..
Hey Mate,
When I first got my prophet, it did the same thing, no lights, nothing. I had the battery replaced with an NON-OFFICIAL prophet battery (i.e, A cheap unbranded one), and it went - it's running perfectly now too with WM6
owenw said:
Hey Mate,
When I first got my prophet, it did the same thing, no lights, nothing. I had the battery replaced with an NON-OFFICIAL prophet battery (i.e, A cheap unbranded one), and it went - it's running perfectly now too with WM6
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Hey buddy thx
I shall surely try with a new batt..
fing crossed.
Any progress on this???
i ja sam zakucao svog.. .
pozdrav iz "susjednog" zg-a futogu...
anyone figuired this out? my phone is dead too, i lost my charger a few days ago and i've been charging it with my laptop, until a few days where it ran out of juice, when i plugged it back in, it never turned out, im tried leavign it plugged in for 24 hrs, tried other adapters, kept the battery out..etc
nothingg!! Helpppp

Athena dead or dying........any miracle workers out there?

Background:
I have had MANY PPC's (so many I can't even count them) and I've loaded many different cooked ROMS and such on most of them so I'm not a complete noob on these things (don't claim to be an expert either).
However, my most recent acquisition is an HTC Advantage bought at CompUSA. I've read most of these came with a test ROM and mine was no different except for the fact that when I attempted to update the ROM to the "official" one provided to me by HTC it would not work. I always got the error "Connection lost" about half way through the process. I tried it numerous times and it never worked. On some occasions it would get stuck on the bootloader screen but I was able to get it back to working status (still on the test ROM).
I decided to try installing step 1 of Ollipro's SPL to see if that would help loading the HTC ROM. Turns out that wouldn't work either. It would get stuck at step 1 where it would ask if "PPC gone idle and didn't work or to wait 30 seconds". Tried it many times and would try to get it to keep going but the grey box on the bottom left would say the "parameters were incorrect" and would give me the option to quit, which I would. No problem, at least my 7501 was still working.
After that I tried the official HTC ROM again and I got the same "connection lost" error I had previously, except this time I didn't get anything on my PPC screen, just a black screen, not even the battery charging light behind the joystick lights up anymore. Soft reset...........nothing. Bootloader reset....................nothing. Hard reset.......................nothing. No lights, nada. The only flicker I get is if I try a reset wheen the power cord is connected. A red light flickers behind the joystick whenever I click the reset button. Any ideas or any help?
Sounds to me like the battery is just dead. I bought one at CompUSA (had the test ROM also) and I got the red ring around the joystick too when I tried to turn it on in the store. I left it plugged in awhile and it finally booted up okay. I then replaced the test ROM with the one and only available for the X7501 on HTC USA's web site. Good luck and I hope you get it working!
I think it could be battery related as well but it had a full charge when this happened. For some reason the unit has lost communication with the battery. I'm at a loss.
I got the same problem like you man !!! but i bad luck and so stupid man , i did with HTC X7501 then it dead after that i bought the X7500 then did it again , holy "... " it dead again....man ...So how your phone now bro ????
I left out the battery a half day and tried it again but still dead. Then I left it charging overnight and tried it again but still dead.
I can't believe this. I've never had a bricked device that can't be revived but after so many have seen this post and still no solutions I'm guessing it's no hope.
I met the same situation when I started to unlock Athena ( TMobile Ameo) within not fully charged battery ( less then 70%).
Solution ( try to make BL mode) with connected wallsocket charger ( not connected to PC USB slot) or find 100% charged battery. It helped me two times.
After many tries it changed to BL mode .
Now I didn't start unlock/change ROM without 100% charged battery.
I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please
Lobstrick said:
I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please
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"heating battery" (i.e. discharging when inserted, you mean?), no charge led = dead bootloader indeed.
I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?
Hearing these stories makes me nervous. I'm on the stock ROM (mine came from CompUSA with the latest ROM and I don't have an urge to try the cooked ROM yet). I've been using my Athena daily for 4 months, it charges correctly from several different chargers I have (car, computer USB, stock wall charger, aftermarket wall charger).
However, one day 2 weeks ago I went to make a call in the middle of the day and my Athena was dead. D-e-a-d. Usually I can make it back home at night and still have 90-100% on the battery meter, so with no use in the middle of the day and a dead battery, this was weird. It wouldn't turn on, no soft boot, took the battery out and put it back in, and always got nothing.
I bring this up here because when I plugged it in, I encountered similar problems that others here are describing. It wouldn't turn on, and it didn't give me the orange charging light behind the joystick. I ended up leaving it plugged in for a while and finally I got a red ring, not the usual orange. I've only seen red when the battery was almost dead and the unit was on. Then after some more time the ring turned orange and at this point it would turn on again. I still have no idea why my battery died so fast and hard.
So, is there a problem with the battery charging system that is starting to crop up in units that have been used a while???
miha_conan said:
I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?
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Hi i am no expert but i had simaler problem no display or no lights round ring no responce to any commands (ie hard reset and bootloader ) only red light flickred on reset button all i did was removed battery while pressing reset button and placed new battery and left it on wall charger for couple of hours and before doing hard reset i pressed reset button 2 to 3 times and green light round the battery came up so i tryed bootloader and it worked and insted of flashing it with pc i just loaded the img in sd card and flashed it while whole thing was on charge (i had tmob test rom before ) which i think is best way to do no hassle of losing connection or failing in half way and it works like a charm
hope this helps
and ya if you have a spare battery it dose help
New battery?
I'm a wizard user (and lots of former PDAs) looking to buy and Athena, maybe.
Has anyone tried a new, right out of the envelope, battery? these issues sound like worn out Li-Ion batteries to me. I've had them completely conk (won't take a charge at all) if I let them go completely down, and I've had them wear out and stop taking a full charge (down to maxing out at about %20, but sometimes showing %100 depending on ROM status) when I kept charging them while they're already charged.
Li-Ion batts don't sit for long periods too well, either, so if they're sitting on the shelf at the store/warehouse, they may be suffering even more than one that has been used since earlier in its childhood.
Perhaps the answer is a switched charger that stops charging when the battery (not the ROM/unit reading) gets to %100. ???
I didn't see anything like this posted. I'm terribly curious to see if anyone can resolve it.
nother AMEO dead
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1859021#post1859021
Red ring comes for a sec only try to RESET the device with Charger connected
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same here,
i am afraid i got a dead athena too, did you guys found any solution?? i tried switching batteries. this is my first experience with a windows mobile device not powering on, in inrepairable condition.
found another member with similar problems- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1639311&postcount=24
No genius,s on here,just insults
i have read every page on the advantage x7500,being such an old phone you would thin the genius,s on here could sort it out in seconds,but all they do is insult you.i tried to update from windows 6 on radio 1.20 to michys radio 6.5
it got to 94 percent then crashed, now when i boot up i just get a black and white screen,which then turns white,if it try to reinstall advantage 6.0 the phone reets after 2 or 3 percent..will anyboby help by giving simple term advice to unbrick it? NO.will they provide links to there advice no.THEY JUST INSULT YOU AND SAY ITS IN ONE OF THE THREADS.well im a computer tech and if anybody wants there pc or laptop fixing.guess what i will return the favour with computer speak,THAT YOU CANT UNDERSTAND

[Q] URGENT!!! someone reply ASAP !!

as d title says i am in real need of help -
my x5 was working fine wid crazymiui 7-14 version but 2day phone stopped charging . i had some problems earlier but shaking d charger lil bit or using pc to charge worked well .
2day when i connected d charger phone showed charging ( led was also green ) but d battery percentage was stuck . it was same 5-6 % after atleast an hour of charging . i tried various methods but all in vain , pc dtects d phone n usb debugging is also on but no increment in battery. everything else is working fine . i even tried my blackberry charger but same result. den i thought of switching off phone and den charging , battery icon appeared after huawei logo n it showed charging but when i powerd it up battery was same 4-5 % ( chargd for an hour ) den i thought dere might be some problem wid charging jack n charged d battery on a local shop . ( there is one special type of charger which directly charges any battery. u directly have to plug in d battery in d charger ) but dat didnt help either .
now i am thinking of taking it to service centre ( still under warrantly . 10 months ) but the problem is my x5 is rooted n running 4.0 , as soon dey see this they will void my warranty n i cannot install official as dere is no battery . even if i try wid so less charging dere is stong probability of bricking d mobile as i would be dead while installing d rom .
what should i do now ? someone pls reply ASAP . i mean how can battery be dead suddenly . thats impossible
i really appreciate u read such detailed thread . thanx a lot .
Occam's razor prevails.
There are three possibilities.
Either the battery is FUBAR or;
The charge indicator is incorrect or;
There is an internal hardware problem
The simplest explanation is that the battery is bad.
eyeconic said:
Occam's razor prevails.
There are three possibilities.
Either the battery is FUBAR or;
The charge indicator is incorrect or;
There is an internal hardware problem
The simplest explanation is that the battery is bad.
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so what r my options now ?
can some1 please reply , i have to go to service centre today
about problem
mkr17 said:
as d title says i am in real need of help -
my x5 was working fine wid crazymiui 7-14 version but 2day phone stopped charging . i had some problems earlier but shaking d charger lil bit or using pc to charge.............
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as others said your phones usb input may be dead, i have some ideas;
1. try to charge battery with a charger that have output of 1a 5v. (you already tried this,if i read your post right)
2. charge with a battery charger (the ones that you directly put the battery in it ,some of them are universal,have two pins)
3. connect your phone to the computer without a battery if it boots your phones battery is dead.(I think this is good news)
4.if none of help above (above,right?) your phones battery measurement is wrong,charge it like 1 hour and du a complete restore or flash another rom.
have nice day,i hope this post will help you. (sorry for my bad english,i havent practised for months)
cizkek_ said:
as others said your phones usb input may be dead, i have some ideas;
1. try to charge battery with a charger that have output of 1a 5v. (you already tried this,if i read your post right)
2. charge with a battery charger (the ones that you directly put the battery in it ,some of them are universal,have two pins)
3. connect your phone to the computer without a battery if it boots your phones battery is dead.(I think this is good news)
4.if none of help above (above,right?) your phones battery measurement is wrong,charge it like 1 hour and du a complete restore or flash another rom.
have nice day,i hope this post will help you. (sorry for my bad english,i havent practised for months)
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thanx man , my phone worked , coincidentally both chargers i tried were broke . took my phone to service centre they connected there charger and phone charged . there was some problem with d cable , dats why it didnt charge even when connected to pc . so bought new data cable n all working well . again thanx for help

A problem with charging from zero

Hi all , I've recently started having this problem with my n10 where if I let it die off on zero charge and then connect it to a charger ( proprietary , mobile chrgrs ,tried 'em all save for the pogo).the screen doesn't show anything and if I try to start it , it just shows an image with a battery charging icon (not the animation , just a static image ) for a while and then the screen goes black.
I've had this problem twice now and both times it seemed to return to normal after a while on the charger ( charging animation and all ). But I'm concerned that this is something serious . Any tips ?
Thanks in advance
vidzilla said:
Hi all , I've recently started having this problem with my n10 where if I let it die off on zero charge and then connect it to a charger ( proprietary , mobile chrgrs ,tried 'em all save for the pogo).the screen doesn't show anything and if I try to start it , it just shows an image with a battery charging icon (not the animation , just a static image ) for a while and then the screen goes black.
I've had this problem twice now and both times it seemed to return to normal after a while on the charger ( charging animation and all ). But I'm concerned that this is something serious . Any tips ?
Thanks in advance
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You mustn't let it go down to 0%. You must charge it when the battery is around 45-50% more or less. Also you can check on google play, Nexus 10, they recommend what i'm telling you.
vidzilla said:
Hi all , I've recently started having this problem with my n10 where if I let it die off on zero charge and then connect it to a charger ( proprietary , mobile chrgrs ,tried 'em all save for the pogo).the screen doesn't show anything and if I try to start it , it just shows an image with a battery charging icon (not the animation , just a static image ) for a while and then the screen goes black.
I've had this problem twice now and both times it seemed to return to normal after a while on the charger ( charging animation and all ). But I'm concerned that this is something serious . Any tips ?
Thanks in advance
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You're killing the battery by doing this to ANY Li+ battery. You shouldn't do that. Like above post said, or when at 10-15%, plug it in and leave it alone. What you're doing will override the safeties and permanently drain the battery, and potentially to 'true' 0%. When it reaches 'true 0%', you kill the battery permanently.
Thanks for your replies guys . The reason I was doing this was because of a few roms I flashed . After flashing, the battery indicator seemed to incorrectly show the battery percentage ( wouldn't go down below 90% for ages ) and I read somewhere that letting it shut itself off and then recharging would set things right .
Things are okay now but in case I get these battery indiacator problems again , what's the best recourse ?
Thanks in advance .
vidzilla said:
Thanks for your replies guys . The reason I was doing this was because of a few roms I flashed . After flashing, the battery indicator seemed to incorrectly show the battery percentage ( wouldn't go down below 90% for ages ) and I read somewhere that letting it shut itself off and then recharging would set things right .
Things are okay now but in case I get these battery indiacator problems again , what's the best recourse ?
Thanks in advance .
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It could be your Phone Board Assembly (mainboard) and require RMA, in which case, they don't care if its rooted/etc. I had to send it in twice for that issue, as it turned out to be hardware, not software.
About 14 out of 15 times I fully drain the battery to zero. The 15th time I bump charge. I do this because I feel it gives better overall battery life.
Its impossible for me to state that (the above) without people chiming in about "how to do your battery"... Let me just say that I've researched that topic extensively, and am happy with my method. Please do not start a battery discussion thread jack here! Now, with that out of the way...
-You can drain your battery to 0% and not "break" any aspect of the device. When people talk "battery theory" they are mainly referring to the charge curve of the battery over time. Its impossible to harm this in "one or two charges", so if you truly do experience a problem then you may have a defective unit.
-Part of the behavior you describe does not sound broken to me. When the battery is fully dead, the unit cant power on. When you plug in the charger, the battery icon appears. It starts off as an empty battery. It should do a "charging animation" though, that I did not hear you say... Then, you cant power it back on immediately after plugging in the charger.
-The part you say about the indicator being off DOES sound like a problem that others are reporting here and there, and hands down dibblebill is an expert on that topic!
Sadly, I am. Keep demanding they replace your Phone Board Assembly when you call, otehrwise they'll swap your battery and send it back.

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