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i remember in December when i asked their customer service when will they release the next patch, and they told me sometimes in January, again in January i heard it has been postponed to mid january, then Begining of February, This time their CEO announced it will be released 23 Feb.?????? and of course we have passed it
i am just wondering are they aware of what they are doing???? do they know they are losing their creditably in delivering honest announcements.
K-Jam isn't very bad device but it has some issues like i have never seen before and of course i am using another phone with my K-Jam, since the K-Jam is temperory mentaly ill, and can't be trusted, i just regret paying this much for this overpriced thing while there are atleast three other competitors delivers much better devices in reasonable prices.
and since this will be my last device from HTC i hope i can find a reason to keep it alittle longer before i trade it in.
Dont you mean K-Jam people rather then HTC?
I dont think HTC support there phones they just build them.
The suppliers kajam / imate e.t.c have to test of fine tune there own roms.
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i remember in December when i asked their customer service when will they release the next patch, and they told me sometimes in January, again in January i heard it has been postponed to mid january, then Begining of February, This time their CEO announced it will be released 23 Feb.?????? and of course we have passed it
i am just wondering are they aware of what they are doing???? do they know they are losing their creditably in delivering honest announcements.
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Having worked for a large s/w firm for quite a time I would say that in their favour there's a lot of testing a validation to be done before they can release a ROM update (as the risk is thousands of users with no working phones) - and then once they are happy theyhave to release the ROM to qtek/i-mate etc to tweak for individual devices... and that can add to the delay while they test their tweaks have not broken it further ... as long as they (both HTC and the individual manufacturers) keep lines of communication open to keep our expectations under control I guess we can't complain too much...
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K-Jam isn't very bad device but it has some issues like i have never seen before...
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what sort of problems are you having? Have you posted them on ClubImate forums (and here etc) to help raise awareness to see if they're fixable?
K-Jam isn't very bad device but it has some issues like i have never seen before and of course i am using another phone with my K-Jam, since the K-Jam is temperory mentaly ill, and can't be trusted, i just regret paying this much for this overpriced thing while there are atleast three other competitors delivers much better devices in reasonable prices.
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i'm using the kjam for about 6 months now & i can honestly say that there's a shortage of features rather than having issues/problems with it, it's true we still need some enhancements on the device, but in general i have everything i need from it.
i'm a big fan of sonyericsson myself, & before my kjam i had the sonyericsson mobiles for the past 6 years ad i was more than happy with it, but when the WM5 was released i found most of the problems with the previous HTC devices was gone, nobody can deny that. and the HTC is offering now a much better worth of money than before, you can't say otherwise, but maybe you have some problems with your device? try to find the solution for it, i had some defeculties myself when i fist had the device, but all was solved, and i got solutions mostly in this forum.
i received an email from imate support about releasing the new rom updates with the AKU2 & A2DP features on it, this is thier reply:
Dear Customer,
Thank you for your email. Regarding your query, please note that ROM upgrade for K-JAM, which will also include Messaging and Security Feature Pack (push support) for Windows Mobile 5.0 devices, is expected to make available in upcoming weeks. Your patience is highly appreciated.
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let's hope it'sgonna be released soon.
BTW, I tried to scribble down any issues I have with the k-jam... the list is here
most of the issues are WM5 not K-Jam related, and I think some of them come from having got used to the ease with which my SE T610 fits my way of working (and the procession of SE-P900, Moto-A1000, LG-u81xx/u880 and Moto V3x that I use for work)
i probably over reacted a bit, this is my third device from Imate and i was quite happy with the previous two, i just expected this one to be the same, what bugs me a little is the performance of this device is not what i call excellent, and i was hopping for better,
as for the issues i am having, i don't think it can be fixed by a program or options. for example sometimes i get only one ring when someone is calling and sometimes it show my phone is off in the other end, the reminder's sound doesn't go off when i dismiss it so does the light for the reminder... etc...
of course not alot but it happens sometimes.
i am just disappointed with the promises, i just hope they don't give certain date unless they are positive they are going to meet it. that is the least you could do in the proffessional world :wink:
I agree... I think most of my disappointments are WM5 related rather than K-Jam... hopefully the (march?) ROM update will iron out a few little wrinkles.
I agree... they should be more certain before they release dates for ROM upgrades etc, or at the very least make sure they set expectations correctly by saying HTC expect to release in Jan, i-mate should release 2 months after that, and both HTC and/or i-mate to keep info on the (otherwise pretty useless) Club i-mate site to help manage our expectations
First off, I don't want this to come off as any form of begging, so please read the whole post before making judgments.
I have noticed that many of the people posting about their X1 have things to complain about or simply don't like their device. If this is you, and you're planning on junking your device, maybe you would like to donate it to me instead? Of course, if you can get a refund and need the money, certainly do so; I've slowly been saving for an X1 and should have one in the next couple of months (assuming SE hasn't announced an X2 device by then). However, time is precious, and many things could be done in those few months while waiting.
About me: I've been programming for about 7-8 years now, and taking apart electronic devices and hacking around at the hardware since I was maybe 10. I enjoy cooking up new ROMs (who doesn't love voiding their warranty? =D) and writing software for various mobile devices. I'm also a long-standing Sony Ericsson fan, and have in fact recently gone back to my K550i after a few months with the Samsung Behold.
If/When I do get an X1, I have several plans, including:
- Developing panels (I have a few ideas in mind already, and the SDK installed, but development isn't practical without the proper testing device).
- Developing games (I have a few ideas in mind here as well, plus games I could easily port from those I've written for other devices).
- Developing WM software
- Possibly some ROM cooking, but no guarantee on a time-frame
- Exploring the hardware for tweaks/hacks/etc.
Now, as I said, there is certainly no rush to do this, and I have no specific need for anyone to donate a phone, as I will likely be able to buy one in a few months. However, if someone did contribute here, it would be helpful in advancing everyone's Xperience (I've noticed panels and games are particularly lacking, yeah?). So if you're planning on throwing out your X1, or simply have too much money to manage properly, feel free to contact me!
The economy in the US can't be that bad surely ?
The problem you have is how the US distribute phones, you buy an expensive call plan, then you have to buy the phone at full price
If you shop around in the UK you can get 600mins, 1000texts + unlimited data for £30 a month, 18m contract...with a free X1.
What the heck is going on in the USA Telecoms market ?
You are being ripped off big time !
lol that's what i'm wondering! we only get free phones if we start a new two year contract... but the phones are so worthless (like cheap flip nokias and motorolas). it costs so much to have a nice phone. i had to save 2 and a half paychecks just so i could buy my x1 :/
also Kuraudo, in microsoft visual studio, which you will need to develop your own panels, sony has developed an xperia emulator so you can see how your panel will work on the device. I was going to try and develop some panels but visual studio used up too much of my laptops resources so i had to get rid of it.
The US has piss-poor carrier competition. The big four are Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, and T-mobile: Verizon and Sprint are ruled out because they're CDMA networks, and T-mobile uses its proprietary UMTS 1700 (3G) network. That just leaves AT&T to carry all the UMTS 850/1900 devices. It's not like Europe where multiple carriers operate on UMTS 2100, meaning any UMTS 2100 device could be used on any carrier, and therefore carriers will compete with each other to get exclusivity on high-end phones. With AT&T, they don't really have to compete with anyone -- and you can also place some blame on their monopoly with the iPhone.
Also, the US economy might not be that bad (it could be a lot worse, but hopefully it won't get that way), but a lot of people in the US still only use their phone for voice and SMS, which means there isn't really a high demand for 3G phones from the average consumer -- except, again, for the iPhone. And if the economy is taking a dive, there's less incentive for anyone to spend more money on cellphone service.
Anyway, that's getting off-track. To OP: have you seen HTC's leaked 2009 roadmap? The X1 looked like a great device but there have been so many quality control issues that I decided not to get one, and now with HTC planning to release a whole slew of devices in 2009, the X1 is looking more and more like "old news".
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also Kuraudo, in microsoft visual studio, which you will need to develop your own panels, sony has developed an xperia emulator so you can see how your panel will work on the device. I was going to try and develop some panels but visual studio used up too much of my laptops resources so i had to get rid of it.
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I've already had this installed, and have used it to some extent, but it's not very ideal to base an entire development on the emulation (as it's slower and usability is different; i.e. comparing 800 pixels in width on a 17" screen vs. a 3" screen?).
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To OP: have you seen HTC's leaked 2009 roadmap? The X1 looked like a great device but there have been so many quality control issues that I decided not to get one, and now with HTC planning to release a whole slew of devices in 2009, the X1 is looking more and more like "old news".
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I haven't seen it, and I'll look into it, but if your issue was with the X1's construction quality, it doesn't seem like you should be shopping from the same manufacturer (you dislike how HTC built the X1, so instead you want to buy HTC phones).
As far as I know, the "cracks and paint" issue with the X1 casing was limited to a few specific weeks of its production, and I'm under the impression that the more current ones would be more durable (an e-mail response I got from SE when I asked about the cracks and stuff said that it won't be a problem if I buy from sonystyle.com, which is either a way of trying to make more money... or of indicating that I should be buying newly-produced phones, rather than phones on eBay from the bad production weeks).
As far as the speed problem goes, it doesn't seem like there's a large enough latency that it would concern me during normal use. Plus, I'd imagine that a firmware update will eventually come to improve it.
I'll have a look at the HTC roadmap and get back to this thread, but...is there any news of a leaked SE roadmap?
Edit: had my look, but I didn't see anything too eye-catching (besides a hot pink phone that was outright ugly, to say the least). Didn't see any specs, but I didn't even like the way most of them looked.
Hello Guys,
I have been very happy reading itjes post in the beginning of semptember that he has gotten a official Xperia 6.5 kernel. I really got the hope that we will get an 6.5 update for the Xperia by Sony Erricson.
But yesterday I was shocked when I read the official blog of Xperia / Sony Erricson.
I thought I have bought a enterprise device with first-class service - its definitly what I paid for.
Thats why I would like to write an open letter to Sony Erricson with you to present them our point of view.
I will never buy a Sony Erricson device ever again if we don't get an official update and I am not going to buy a Software-Update for 800$ (X2).
The Xperia is not even one year on the market and we don't get anymore support ? I dont think that this is a enterprise service!
I would like to write the open letter HERE at xda to show them how many we are and that we are united here.Thats why I would like you to collect arguments here - and discuss.
Later (in a few days) I will collect all of your ideas and write the letter and publish it here where you can all sign it.
Greetings
SlowlyDead
I agree totally with all the aspect that you say. This situation has been discussed many times in this forum and others. I expect that all this ideas and opinion will serve to make SE think and restate it's plans. I told what I think about the 6.5 support a few weeks ago, there is a post here about it.
Best regards.
when i bought the x1 last November at no point did sony say or give the impression that they would update the os to 6.5.
the have done 2 firmware updates and there may be one more to come.
i think people should stop complaining as no other mobile phone company are giving free updates on a product that is a year old.
There are plenty of discussions already regarding SE but as we all love to moan and groan about them why not start a new thread just to give em some s**t.
My main concern at present is that as you say support for X1 stops and support for X2 starts, we wont be able to OFFICIALLY get any of the panels from X2 on our X1 or any of the additional software that comes with X2. So it seems the panels that are available now are all that will be available to the X1 and future ones are for X2 only.
I would like to see WM6.5 along with new panel manager and X2 panel downloads in an update available for the X1 OFFICIALY via SEUS. However im not too fussed about WM6.5 but would be a bonus.
We all are with you. We want 6.5 since the X1 could run it perfectly. Such a expensiv device gets such a bad supports. That's a shame!
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i think people should stop complaining as no other mobile phone company are giving free updates on a product that is a year old.
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Apple still manages to update the first generatin iPhone after all this time...
1 - Your letter will achieve nothing.
2 - Write oit yoorself, no one else cares.
3 - Yes, SE's support and services are crap and yes we bought a high-end device for a premium price, but look at 4...
4 - SE never promised to give a free 6.5 update. Why should they? There is no logical reason. Some companies do it, but that is their decision and not mandatory act. SE is not one of them and X1 is not one of those phones. Deal with it.
They are not obliged to do it and they don't need to. Not happy? No one cares. No one will give you free stuff. Don't be a cheap ....... and buy your stuff. It feels much more gratifying believe me.
Do you expect the company that sold you your PC with Windows XP to provide you a free upgrade to Vista? Hahahahahha.
Think for a second. THINK!
Ganondolf said:
when i bought the x1 last November at no point did sony say or give the impression that they would update the os to 6.5.
the have done 2 firmware updates and there may be one more to come.
i think people should stop complaining as no other mobile phone company are giving free updates on a product that is a year old.
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true, they didn't say anything about upgrading to 6.5 last year.
but since there are so many people complaining about no support after "1 year", i have to say: that's not true!
here in europe the x1 hit the market in september or early october 2008. it had firmware-problems and needed and got 2 updates. some bugs got fixed, some are still present and some were even built in! (x1-cam-videos playing fine in r1, laggy playback in r2 & r3!)
r3 came out when? april 2009? since then: nada. nothing. not even leaks like prior to the r3. this means that se stopped development for a device which cost 800,- euros (!) after only HALF A YEAR!!!
i think one has have every right to complain about that! and remember it when buying a new phone...
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true, they didn't say anything about upgrading to 6.5 last year.
but since there are so many people complaining about no support after "1 year", i have to say: that's not true!
here in europe the x1 hit the market in september or early october 2008. it had firmware-problems and needed and got 2 updates. some bugs got fixed, some are still present and some were even built in! (x1-cam-videos playing fine in r1, laggy playback in r2 & r3!)
r3 came out when? april 2009? since then: nada. nothing. not even leaks like prior to the r3. this means that se stopped development for a device which cost 800,- euros (!) after only HALF A YEAR!!!
i think one has have every right to complain about that! and remember it when buying a new phone...
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im in the uk and bought the phone on release, the start of november. the only country that got it before the uk was Sweden, they got it mid october.
i have had lots of phones from SE and other companies and its very rare SE ever give firmware updates but on the x1 they have given 2, which have sorted alot of the bugs and speed issues. now that the bugs and speed issues are sorted there has not been any need for another firmware update.
i spent £500 for the x1 and the only thing i am unhappy about is the cracking problem, it was the highest spec phone when it was released, the best looking and since release they have sorted all (most) the software problems.
what people are asking for is stuff (panel manager, panels, wm6.5) which people that bought the x1 are not titled to and if SE kept giving x1 users free stuff (like wm 6.5 which they have to pay license frees to give) they would go bust.
if u want the new stuff buy a x2 or wait till its leaked onto the forum.
Thanks for the support.
To some critic:
I think there is a huge difference between Windows and Windows mobile.
While Windows is the main OS in personal computer market and sold between 100 and 300 € Windows Mobile is not avaible to buy by the end costumer. Only producers can buy it for their products. Although Windows mobile cost just about 5-10 $ (rumors, we cant by sure about that but it has to be there somewere). I would not be that angry if Sony Erricson / Microsoft would give me the opportunity to buy Windows Mobile 6.5 for something about 10 € without losing warranty. The X2 has only a minimal improved hardware and the customs roms shows us that the X1 can run 6.5 fine - Where is our opporunity to upgrade ?
Therfore I totaly agree with caliban2.
And too orelsi:
To 1) we will see
To 2) I will write it but I want to write a letter we can all identify with and collect all arguments.
Greetings
SlowlyDead
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im in the uk and bought the phone on release, the start of november. the only country that got it before the uk was Sweden, they got it mid october.
i have had lots of phones from SE and other companies and its very rare SE ever give firmware updates but on the x1 they have given 2, which have sorted alot of the bugs and speed issues. now that the bugs and speed issues are sorted there has not been any need for another firmware update.
i spent £500 for the x1 and the only thing i am unhappy about is the cracking problem, it was the highest spec phone when it was released, the best looking and since release they have sorted all (most) the software problems.
what people are asking for is stuff (panel manager, panels, wm6.5) which people that bought the x1 are not titled to and if SE kept giving x1 users free stuff (like wm 6.5 which they have to pay license frees to give) they would go bust.
if u want the new stuff buy a x2 or wait till its leaked onto the forum.
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jap, made a typo above - it started at 699,- here. does it matter if it started in the end of september or 2 weeks later in mid-october?
se still left the x1 in april, which is about a half year, give or take.
i'm not interested in the new stuff, the panels, some x2-games - i can get everything if i need here or on other sites.
but what i want:
the most pressing bugs fixed (vid-playback, stability, etc). i don't know how you can say everything is working smooth and fast now... i want the substructure to be fixed. i'm normally on custom roms, but yesterday i flashed the official r3, because i had to try something - it's still horrible! every late custom rom with x2-drivers and the leaked 6.5-kernel feels nearly twice as fast!
so, looking at how the x1 has positioned and looking at it's competitors, it's been a ripoff.
but let's not start a flamewar here. if you're happy and content - good for you. all i wanted to say is that se stopped developing/supporting the x1 after ~6 months, not a year as it's always said. (apart from fixing broken phones on warranty, which is something completly different)
se never promised 6.5 on the x1. They don't need or have to do it. Stop whining about losing something that you were never promised in the first place
hey orelsi, just curious:
is this the max font size on xda or does it get even bigger? you might change the colour to red and use underlines though, you know, so that really noone can miss your post.
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jap, made a typo above - it started at 699,- here. does it matter if it started in the end of september or 2 weeks later in mid-october?
se still left the x1 in april, which is about a half year, give or take.
i'm not interested in the new stuff, the panels, some x2-games - i can get everything if i need here or on other sites.
but what i want:
the most pressing bugs fixed (vid-playback, stability, etc). i don't know how you can say everything is working smooth and fast now... i want the substructure to be fixed. i'm normally on custom roms, but yesterday i flashed the official r3, because i had to try something - it's still horrible! every late custom rom with x2-drivers and the leaked 6.5-kernel feels nearly twice as fast!
so, looking at how the x1 has positioned and looking at it's competitors, it's been a ripoff.
but let's not start a flamewar here. if you're happy and content - good for you. all i wanted to say is that se stopped developing/supporting the x1 after ~6 months, not a year as it's always said. (apart from fixing broken phones on warranty, which is something completly different)
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Do I want a new update? I don't really care. Everything is as close to perfect as humanly possible. Sure, I wouldn't mind one or one thousand more, but...
Do I need a new updae? Not really. Reasons stated above.
The R3A fixed many of the bugs and issues woth stability, etc. Anything else can be fixed by simple tweaking.
The X1 is fast, smooth and bug free. I am happy with it and I'm quite hard to satisfy when it comes to technology.
SE's support sucks. Their attitude sucks.
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They are notorious for not providing many updates to their phones, so the X1 had some luck in that area. SE's policy is ****ty at best, but it has been like that for years. If you don't like it, you shouldn't have gotten the X1. Buy something else in the future...
Slowly Dead, I agree with you even being a lawyer. Sure SE has no obligation, but for a device like the X1 support and updates should be something to go without saying. This is my first SE unit and if we do not get service, we will go with companies which offer services like HTC. The ability to upgrade with XDA -many thanks - is not an argument to benefit SE. Certain customary standards aplly to SE and if not kept, they are out.
We never said that SE promised us the update. All we say is that we like to see 6.5 on our phones and we ask SE to make that update so WE MIGHT CONSIDER A SE PHONE AGAIN!
If your x1 is perfect, do not dare to download 6.5 if it pops up, @orelsi
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Slowly Dead, I agree with you even being a lawyer. Sure SE has no obligation, but for a device like the X1 support and updates should be something to go without saying. This is my first SE unit and if we do not get service, we will go with companies which offer services like HTC. The ability to upgrade with XDA -many thanks - is not an argument to benefit SE. Certain customary standards aplly to SE and if not kept, they are out.
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They have provided 2 updates already. They fixed most of the problems and issues.
They DO NOT need to provide WinMo 6.5.....
Updating customer devices regularly to fix problems - mandatory.
Upgrading customers devices with newer OS (never promised or hinted when the sell was made) - NOT mandatory.
Want a newer OS? Buy a new device, because bno one promised you and upgrade. No one will do it just because you want it..... If wishes were pennies......
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We never said that SE promised us the update. All we say is that we like to see 6.5 on our phones and we ask SE to make that update so WE MIGHT CONSIDER A SE PHONE AGAIN!
If your x1 is perfect, do not dare to download 6.5 if it pops up, @orelsi
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You - We want 6.5
SE - Why should we give it to you?
You - We paid a premium price for the X1!
SE - Yes you did and we gave you an OS with it didn't we?
You - Yes, but it was 6.1.
SE - Then you should have waited another year for 6.5.
You - But...
SE - Do you expect to get the new X2 for free, because you paid a lot of money for the X1?
You - Well, no, but...
SE - IT IS THE SAME THING!!!!!!!! Thank you and have a nice day .
You can't blackmail them to give you something for free lol. You are free to choose any other product on the market, if you don't like SE's.
What makes you come back to a company for another purchase?
1 - Nice product. Is the X1 a nice product? Yes.
2 - Quality support. Do we have this? Nope, but we got more updates than most SE phones...
3 - Free stuff? Nope... That company would go bankrupt.
I wouldn't download 6.5, because and don't like it at the moment. By the time I need it and it's bug free, It would be time for to get a new phone and that phone will have it pre-installed...
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Slowly Dead, I agree with you even being a lawyer. Sure SE has no obligation, but for a device like the X1 support and updates should be something to go without saying. This is my first SE unit and if we do not get service, we will go with companies which offer services like HTC. The ability to upgrade with XDA -many thanks - is not an argument to benefit SE. Certain customary standards aplly to SE and if not kept, they are out.
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HTC is not really better!
The TouchHD, which is also one year old, will not have WM6.5 update
oTToToTenTanz said:
We never said that SE promised us the update. All we say is that we like to see 6.5 on our phones and we ask SE to make that update so WE MIGHT CONSIDER A SE PHONE AGAIN!
If your x1 is perfect, do not dare to download 6.5 if it pops up, @orelsi
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if orelsi wanted a 6.5 rom he would of downloaded a custom one a long time ago.
Dear Sir / Madam,
Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson support centre.
Currently we cannot confirm the release of Android 2.2 for the X10, any notifications with regards to this will be released on the Sony Ericsson website.
Kind Regards,
Mark Chapman
Sony Ericsson UK Customer Services
WTF！！
Really, you're surprised? What did you expect them to say?
i except them will sat 2.2 is on the plan .!
They don't announce plans that far ahead though. If 2.1 is coming out in December, then we wouldn't get 2.2 at least until around this time next year.
It would be nice to get confirmation for 2.2, but for now, just wait and stop whining.
you are right!
as a matter of fact,NO 2.2 FOR X10 this year i think.
by the time 2.2 release my x10 is broken already need new one heheheheheh!!!!!
Don’t forget tech support are made by contractor, the person answering you probably working for a company, just sub contracted to SE so obviously they wont have any answer or cant give you one.
Android started a new wave, i would call it what the user want, the way he want it.
Other one like apple or blackberry are in the mindset me make what we think people want and need. Sadly Sony is one of them, but it doesn’t mean we as user cannot change it.
"Android started a new wave, i would call it what the user want, the way he want it.
Other one like apple or blackberry are in the mindset me make what we think people want and need. Sadly Sony is one of them, but it doesn’t mean we as user cannot change it."
Cnrl, I'm not really adding to this thread other than to say i think the above comment is Absolutely spot on !
HTC encourage and learn from devs at xda, if SONY did the same they'd quickly have devices everyone wants
Spoke to a friend of mine who is at Orange today and he has told me the following:
1. SE have no intention of bringing out the 2.1 update BEFORE decemeber 2010.
2. Its unlikely that it will ever have 2.2 on it.
3. It is Oranges worst ever selling handset from SE and there is already plans to no longer sell it past October.
Make of that what you will, he works in handset testing and he showed me the circular email that all staff in his dept received for number 1.
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Spoke to a friend of mine who is at Orange today and he has told me the following:
1. SE have no intention of bringing out the 2.1 update BEFORE decemeber 2010.
2. Its unlikely that it will ever have 2.2 on it.
3. It is Oranges worst ever selling handset from SE and there is already plans to no longer sell it past October.
Make of that what you will, he works in handset testing and he showed me the circular email that all staff in his dept received for number 1.
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when SE themselves say it will be out Q4?
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when SE themselves say it will be out Q4?
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If your unbranded or the rest of the world its going to be September.
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If your unbranded or the rest of the world its going to be September.
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september is q3 no?
ratedr75 said:
Spoke to a friend of mine who is at Orange today and he has told me the following:
1. SE have no intention of bringing out the 2.1 update BEFORE decemeber 2010.
2. Its unlikely that it will ever have 2.2 on it.
3. It is Oranges worst ever selling handset from SE and there is already plans to no longer sell it past October.
Make of that what you will, he works in handset testing and he showed me the circular email that all staff in his dept received for number 1.
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tell your friend to stop making things up
orange shop staff hear nothing like what your saying anyway. they cant even tell you what phones they are getting in next week , nevermind whats going to happen in the future.
the 'worst selling SE phone' comment is rubbish too. it is SEs best selling phone in a long time. in asia it has outsold every other smartphone and broke records. in the UK vodafone have sold a silly amount of them too. the director of SE has praised its sales on many occasions and called it an apple beater
thanks for your useless comment
Just wait for it to be rooted...
To be honest, why couldn't SE just recompile the firmware with 2.1 + their custom stuffs from the current release? If they developed their custom interface stuffs with the standard APIs it should just be a short verification + debug efforts. No new feature is needed to be developed and tested.
I highly doubt that we will get any update beyond end of year '10... it is NOT in SE best interests to support it when they will release newer models Winter/Spring '11. Even Apple discontinued supports for their 1st gen. iPhones.
Q4 is October, November, December, so that matches Sonys time frame.
However I doubt the guy at Orange really has a clue what's going on. He is probably full of cynism, and has no faith in sony so is just giving the most negative information possible.
people who work at these kiosks / stores hardly know anything about phones, they just work there. in a blue moon there is maybe one guy that actually follows the phone world
m82a1 said:
people who work at these kiosks / stores hardly know anything about phones, they just work there. in a blue moon there is maybe one guy that actually follows the phone world
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Even customer service @ SE hardly know a thing
Ok so,
The X10 has a 16M colour screen
The X10 has a Multi-Touch capable screen
The X10 has Wireless N capability (not yet confirmed!)
The X10 has a powerful CPU
And yet Sony Ericsson dose not make use of these features.
Did they just add the more expensive hardware to push the price of the phone up?
Sure seems that way.
What they are doing is like buying more RAM for your PC and not actually using it. Just putting it on the desk to sit there and collect dust.
I just don't get it at all. Makes not sense what so ever.
If Jeff is still here maybe you would like to comment on this?
I think their software developers just suck. They make amazing hardware but fail at software on everything. I have owned 2 SE phones in the past and both had buggy interface. Same for earlier versions of the PSP. Sony is a hardware company.
I have owned 4 SE's and it always seems to be the same problem. You think I would have learned my lesson.
SE like to use the latest hardware in their advertising to trick customers into thinking that SE phones actually use the latest hardware. This is how SE push up the price of their devices. Then they promise customers that their device will be able to run the latest features once their product gets a software update, in the not too distant future of course. This usually takes around a year. Then while you're waiting for their update service, they try to compare their product with features their devices will have in the future, to what other products are actually currently using. And, SE never take into account that by the time their product is updated, that it will be updated to OUTDATED software. Then you have to sit back and watch whilst nearly every other flagship device from their competitors are enjoying feature you will never have on your SE device. Some times these other devices are even running the latest features on less hardware. And finally after all this, SE announce their next product release and repeat the whole process all over agian.
Nearly a years wait and still waiting just so we can import face book contacts! What a joke. (very slight exaggeration, but you get the point)
I tried to tell people this would happen back in April. I hate to say I told you so, but...
To say I will never buy another Sony or SE product as long as I live would be an understatement.
mackdaddy187 said:
I think their software developers just suck. They make amazing hardware but fail at software on everything. I have owned 2 SE phones in the past and both had buggy interface. Same for earlier versions of the PSP. Sony is a hardware company.
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I could have said it better myself.
SE is all about the hardware.
The development team seems mediocre and that's too bad.
Well, let's hope the bootloader gets cracked...
Maybe SE will see the light an actually get their **** together!.
I will be contacting the CEO of SE about this as well.. I don't expect id get a reply or even a decent one if i do but meh
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