Hi all.
I have tried to install version 2 of the MS .net framework. I already had v. 1.1. installed on my jasjar.
As I installed it on my desktop, the installer eventually tried to install it also on the handheld device. This installation was not possible. I kept receiving an error message that I had to make space free. Although I knew I had enough free memory, I also tried on the SD card. Nothing.
Then I uninstalled the v. 1.1 to see. Again nothing. Now I cannot install back neither version 1.1 nor version 2.
Any suggestion please?
Thanks
really...
...nobody may know or have a hint?
Solution
As stated at....
http://blogs.msdn.com/netcfteam/
....you need to install into the \windows structure, so SD installation won't work. If you tell it to install on the internal space, then it should work fine:
<<Installing NETCF V2 to storage card
While it is technically possible to redirect installation of NETCF onto storage card via standard Active Sync/WCELOD capabilities, it won’t save precious RAM on device. NETCF files have to be in \Windows folder in order for NETCF to function properly.
If NETCF is installed to storage card, NETCF files will be initially deployed to it. However, at some point they would moved to \Windows folder taking out exactly the same space as normal installation would.
In some cases attempt to use storage card would lead to installation failure due to some subtle storage card issues. Thus it’s not recommended to install NETCF V2 to storage card or embedded storage and there are no benefits of doing so.>>
I tried running Hitchhiker (http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/) and my Universal started doing weird things today while using Navigon, so I took NETCF and Hitchhiker off again.....no problems since. I feel that the leaner one runs the Universal, the better it seems to work.
Can't you guys inject it into a custom ROM?
V
thanks
but as I stated I first installed it in the device and then tried on the SD. None worked. Now I don't have neither framework 1.1 nor 2.
Hi all,
i have a fresh JasJar and i need to install the .Net Compact Framework 2.0 but when i try to install (main memory) it gives me an unknow error number 4.
I have a lot of free space in my device, approx 30 Mb, so where is the problem ?
I need the .Net Compact Framework to run IBE Mail.
Bye
nicoska
Me too. I've tried closing applications, but without luck
RE
Using ActiveSync may give problem. I installed using the cab file method
You can get the cab file ffrom here (near to the bottom)
http://www.gopherking.com/download/
If you cannot install try install WiFiFoFum with the CF installer Package. After that remove WiFiFoFum (if not needed) and you'll have the CF left behind
http://www.aspecto-software.com/xoops/modules/wfdownloads/newlist.php
Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.
cktlcmd said:
Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.
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Hi,
did you installed by .cab file or trough ActiveSync ?
thanks
Nico
nicoska said:
cktlcmd said:
Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.
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Hi,
did you installed by .cab file or trough ActiveSync ?
thanks
Nico
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I used the .exe file through active sync. I had reformatted my computer, I had performed hard resets numerous times on my EXEC and Net Framework 2 always installs without any problem to my SD Card and works very well.
cktlcmd said:
Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.
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Are you sure it's actually on the SD card?
I tried telling it to install to SD-card three times (uninstalled between each attempt) and practically nothing went onto the SD card - it just created an empty folder there. :roll: Took out over 5-MegaByte of main memory though and didn't recover all of that when it was removed! :evil:
astage said:
cktlcmd said:
Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.
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Are you sure it's actually on the SD card?
I tried telling it to install to SD-card three times (uninstalled between each attempt) and practically nothing went onto the SD card - it just created an empty folder there. :roll: Took out over 5-MegaByte of main memory though and didn't recover all of that when it was removed! :evil:
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YES, I explored my SD Card and it has a folder named NetFrame2 or something like that under Windows>Programs
I did not loose any internal memory. As of now after a soft reset, I have about 32MB of internal memory with 31 different applications installed. 26 applications installed to my SD Card and 5 system applications installed on my internal memory. No freezes, no delays, no missed calls, no loss of system preferences, switching from landscape to portrait or vice versa takes 1 second, so I am pleased with my settings.
YES, I explored my SD Card and it has a folder named NetFrame2 or something like that under Windows>Programs
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So did mine, but the folder was empty :?
astage said:
So did mine, but the folder was empty :?
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I didn't actually clicked on the folder, I'll have to check that the next time I sync. I just assumed it was installed there.
cktlcmd said:
astage said:
So did mine, but the folder was empty :?
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I didn't actually clicked on the folder, I'll have to check that the next time I sync. I just assumed it was installed there.
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I hope you're lucky and it worked for you!
Might be worth checking the \Windows folder, however, as that's where I found all the .Net v.2 stuff dumped. The .Net v.1.x stuff is in ROM, so I'm hoping that a future ROM update will have v.2 in ROM.
Pants - just noticed that CF2 folder on SD card is empty!
Any solution to this?
Cheers,
Steve
(Am using Opera - apologies for double spaces)
I've looked into this a bit further, and according to the guys at Microsoft http://blogs.msdn.com/netcfteam/default.aspx - the Framework will always take up storage space, and it wouldn't work if it were only installed on the SD card.
Let's hope that a future ROM release will include it.
Cheers,
Steve.
Here is what I noticed on mine. I just performed a hard reset. I started out with 31MB internal memory. I opted to store NetFramework to my SD Card which is around 5MB in size. So if what you guys claim that NetFrameWork does not install to the card is true, it should eat up the 31MB internal memory right? But I still end up with 31MB internal memory after the install. I did check my SD Card and found the folder there which is empty if I clicked on it. But, my SD Card has less memory than I started with, close to 5MB. So my conclusion is: It installs to the SD Card but maybe active sync does not allow us to see the actual file and size, so it appears the folder is empty.
According to what Microsoft say:
Installing NETCF V2 to storage card
While it is technically possible to redirect installation of NETCF onto storage card via standard Active Sync/WCELOD capabilities, it won’t save precious RAM on device. NETCF files have to be in \Windows folder in order for NETCF to function properly.
If NETCF is installed to storage card, NETCF files will be initially deployed to it. However, at some point they would moved to \Windows folder taking out exactly the same space as normal installation would.
In some cases attempt to use storage card would lead to installation failure due to some subtle storage card issues. Thus it’s not recommended to install NETCF V2 to storage card or embedded storage and there are no benefits of doing so.
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So try installing WifiFoFum (or another .Net CF2 app) and see how your memory availability alters.
Cheers,
Steve.
I also use WiFIFoFum and stored it to my card. It works great. After use of WiFiFoFum, my Internal Memory goes down to about 27MB, I already expected that. Closing all applications via settings puts my internal memory to about 29MB, also expected that as Windows Mobile 5 leaves some parts of the application open for faster reference the next time you open it up. After performing a soft reset my Internal Memory goes back to 31MB. So this still does not change my conclusion that NetFrameWork 2 was installed to my SD Card.
I had a problem installing .NET 2.0 and I found that if I rename/remove previous attempted installs (eg, the dir and files), my 2nd attempt is usually successful.
This goes for most any program that doesn't install properly. I've noticed that this usually happens to me after an upgrade of the same app.
cktlcmd said:
I also use WiFIFoFum and stored it to my card. It works great. After use of WiFiFoFum, my Internal Memory goes down to about 27MB, I already expected that. Closing all applications via settings puts my internal memory to about 29MB, also expected that as Windows Mobile 5 leaves some parts of the application open for faster reference the next time you open it up. After performing a soft reset my Internal Memory goes back to 31MB. So this still does not change my conclusion that NetFrameWork 2 was installed to my SD Card.
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Are you talking about "Program" memory? I'm talking about "Storage" memory - I don't think that's affected when you open/close applications or perform soft resets...
Cheers,
Steve.
StevePritchard said:
Are you talking about "Program" memory? I'm talking about "Storage" memory - I don't think that's affected when you open/close applications or perform soft resets...
Cheers,
Steve.
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Ohhhhhhh! My mistake.
Cheers mate!
FOSA said:
Using ActiveSync may give problem. I installed using the cab file method
You can get the cab file ffrom here (near to the bottom)
http://www.gopherking.com/download/
If you cannot install try install WiFiFoFum with the CF installer Package. After that remove WiFiFoFum (if not needed) and you'll have the CF left behind
http://www.aspecto-software.com/xoops/modules/wfdownloads/newlist.php
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Great that worked for me!! Many thanks!!
J
Dear All:
I just would like to understand the situation here.
after upgrading from wm5 i found that the storage memory is almost impossible to have any programs installed as it's very small.
here is what i have tried
on upgrading directly from wm5 to wm6 without hardreset:
1- storage memory is 8 MB ( i found out that somehow i have all programs that i used on wm5 and all other stored files still available)
2- contacts are still there
3- some programs are nor running
4- extremly slow
on upgrading directly from wm5 to wm6 with hardreset:
1- storage memory is up to 40 MB as i think clearing and formatting the hive removed all excess and uneeded files
2- much faster than before
anyhow my question remains the same do i need to resize capacity?
when installing programs the storage memory is drained on the device, do i need to resize to make which?
1- storage memory ? Program memory ?
2- if i do make it as storage mem 100 and progr memory 16 will it affect anything?
i just need the most space to install programs on the device as files can be added on memory card no problem.
will i need to downgrade to wm2003SE from wm5 or wm6 then use the tools privided on wiki (which is somehow questionable for me being a complete beginner) then resize the ROM and upgrade to wm6?
thanks guys, and thx helmi for a great ROM
Hard reset your device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade1_WM2003SE0
I have installed HTC Kaizer Home Plugin, HTC X-Button, HTC Audio Manager, JUVS CommMgr6 button, reTouched Dialer, etc.
These applications I installed in the Storage Card.
I notice when i start my HTC Softbank X01HT, it become slower... until I have run most of the application, then only the speed become more stable.
So, I wondering I should install these applications into Main Memory or Storage Card? Will it be more stable if I install into Main Memory?
i just think that every app you installing tooks a small part of your hermes memory.... so as many startup application you have as you hermes will slow down
understand that.
what i worried is if i install those applications into storage card, it will load slower than if i install into the main memory.
will this happen?
wailoon said:
understand that.
what i worried is if i install those applications into storage card, it will load slower than if i install into the main memory.
will this happen?
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No, not really - except you turn off or soft reset your device entirely, then it takes a while until your pda read out all contens on SD card - other than that they load as fast as installing in the phone. I always install my apps on SD, except for system application, never had any problems.
It's my understanding that you should install programs that run on startup, like today plugins, into main memory.
This is so that if the programs are called to run before the storage card is initialized they are available.
I believe it was MikeChannon that said this...
intrglctcrevfnk said:
It's my understanding that you should install programs that run on startup, like today plugins, into main memory.
This is so that if the programs are called to run before the storage card is initialized they are available.
I believe it was MikeChannon that said this...
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Yeah, might be a good advice even though I never install in phome memory as long as I can avoid it. But you shouldn't take me as good example anyway (I never had issues with installing everything on SD card but I might have been only lucky up to now!)
How about this solution?:
Try to install your application on SD card first! If they do not run properly after starting up your phone then just uninstall them and reinstall them in your phone memory ...
The only 3 programs I installed in phone memory are:
SPB MOBILE SHELL (It won't install on SD)
RESCO EXPLORER 2007 (to be able to use Explorer, REGISTRY PLUGIN and FTP even when I switch SD cards or card fails)
Microsoft Reader (because of activation)
Hello,
since my artemis seems to get lower on performance as I used up Main Storage, I wonder what effect it would have if I try to cook my used apps into the rom.
Is it right, that I can compile any software into rom? what would be max rom-size? what for then I find cabs in extended rom? Are Programms using less Storage if they are compiled into Rom?
if programs are located in rom they dont use any storage rom only app mem unless they use temp files which use storage
extented run are just cab files which are auto installed to storage so it dont help you at all
...Sorry, I am not sure, if I really got your message.
First ROM itself stands for (read only memory), that is defenitively storage.
I guess I am lacking knowledge about storage architekture. As I know from that 128 MB rom Dice, I always get some 46mb main Storage for Installing Programs, or saving my Phone-Contacts etc.....
I thought that remaining space, is dependent from whats inside my Rom, whatelse for would it make sence to put free storage below any self-cooked rom available on this forum?
The interesting stuff would be, what kind of programs I can compile into any rom, what would be the exact effect?