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Extended_ROM

Hi all,
Need your advice. I just found that under the below memory i have an additional storage (Named Extended_ROM), it is 15.97MB & used 15.18MB, free only 0.79MB. Do you have any idea what is the storage for? Can I remove & free some memory? Thanks
I am currently on ROM 2.06. When i check with my pals, who is still at ROM 1.66, they do not have this additional Storage.
Start/Setting/System/Memory/Storage Card
I have 3 options
a. Storage Card (my 256MB SD card)
b. Extended_ROM (Dont know what this is)
c. Storage (Should be XDAII memory)
Rgds

This part of ROM (Read Only) is allocted for extra (region or operator) related bundle that is customizable to owners liking 8)
It is untouchable except that it is customizable :!:
You can add and remove from and to it just like your typical folders...for instance, the camera, album, operator based codes and other stuff are among the Ext_ROM

Hi
Ext_rom is the most important place when a Hard Reset (format) happen.
The Ext_rom has all the programs that is installed when a Hard Reset happen. So, if you delete it, you will not be back to normal when you do a Hard reset.
Usually the Ext_rom is hiddn so no body touch it.
In case you want your Ext_rom to have some special program that will be loaded every time you do a format, you need to add the programs in the Ext_rom.
Look carfully in the Ext_rom and you will find a file called "config.txt".
You can open and read the config.txt file.
In this file you will see a list of commands in some order.
These comands are the programs that will be loaded or installed each time you have to do a format (Hard Reset)
I hope this give you some information.

Hi all,
Thanks for your kind reply. It give me a better understanding of what this is.
Is there anyway i can make it disappear or so called hidden it & not show under my memory storage? As mentioned, My extended Rom is shown whereas my frens XDA II & XDA IIs doesnt, both on original rom.
Rgds

1.60a upgrade questions

Hey all!
I am currently running on 1.50i.96 and am looking at upgrading to 1.60a. I dont seem to need much of on device storage space really, so i guess i'd atleast have the persistent memory benefit from 1.60a (correct me if am wrong here!)
I just unlocked my extended rom. I have a bunch of files sitting in it. The question is, can i back these files up on my computer, and get rid of it to free up space? Would that cause any problems during a hard reset or something?
The next question, how do i install the RAMDisk? Where can i find the installer for the same? Are there any procedures i'd need to follow to set my RAM disk size?
Thanks so very much!
San

i've a question fot you :
Have you read the posts about wm2005 rom in this forum ?
the 1.60 rom have 180 Mb of ram (volatile) and 14.5 Mb of Storage (persistant)
The Extended rom is NOT used by wm2005 , you can totally erase the extended rom and install all you want ....
You can install ramdisk on 1.60 rom but it's non-persistant .
persistant = : if you remove battery , content of persistant memory stay ....
non-persistant = : if you remove battery , content of non-persistant memory don't stay !!

thanks for your inputs TofClock.
I am aware of the fact that the ram disk is not persistent...the word "ram"disk is clear enough!
But i need the ram disk "just in case"...i thought it would make better sense to start using 1.60a only when i'm sure i can get more space in case i need it sometime later...for now 32 megs seems good enough though...
TofClock, by any chance could you mail me the ramdisk cab file ?? Heres my mail address...
[email protected]
Thanks again!
San

hmm...
well 1.60a has:
128MB Program memory
14.5MB Storage memory as system root
16MB ExtendedROM usable as storage
You cannot install RAMDisk on this version of ROM.
Well you can, but it will cause conflicts in the OS.
If you need more storage space, get yourself 1.50i.xx, where xx stands for amount of Program memory.
buzz

Thanks for your reply Buzz!
when I use 1.60a, I'd totally have 16MB+16MB of persistent storage right?
the question is, where do all the common files (DLLs etc.), contacts, messages etc. get installed/saved onto? One of the 16meg partitions right? My main worry is that all these common files, contacts etc. might exceed the 16meg partition that the OS is using...correct or would it??
I'd want persistent storage mainly, and as long as I can install a couple hundred megs of apps onto my storage card, I'm just fine!
thanks again big time
San

Moving From Program To Storage

hI,
IS THERE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO MOVE MBs FROM PROGRAMS TO STORAGE?

what do u mean? do you want to move your installed applications in the phone to memory card? nope! it will corrupt i think, you have to uninstall it then re install it. however, some programs which are related to the system (like helmi dialer) will be automatically installed to phone memory....

and if you mean mem as the old 2003 slider for deviding mem between app and storage then no
that vent away when ms made wm5
maybe progs like DOC or flashdisk can merge extended rom with storage if you need more storage

I mean the possibility, having 60 mb for programs and only 3 mb ffor storage, to move for example 10 mb from the first too the last: the situation will become: programs 50mb storage 13 mb.

from where you get 3 mb of storage and aditional 60 mb for programs, in blueangel we have 60 mb storage and 128 mb ram (so called program memory), or maybe you do not have Blueangel device
Please tell us your device and rom version, and you will get advice

anyway storage is flash and as such have a limited nr of write it can take before it dies
if it was used as application ram it would die very! fast
also why is it ppl want so much application ram?
programs take as much ram as they require the fact that there is plenty left dont make them faster at all
free app ram is just empty doing nothing

also BA has 128 MB ram more than most pocketpc's on the market why you need more ?

the problems is i have installed some applications that must be installed on the device; after these operations i stay with the following indications:
storage 3.68 mb (remaining);
programs 60 mb (remaining).
I'll ry 2 applications i found that could zip and unzip automatically all the files (and applications) resident on the device.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF I SOLVED THE PROBLEM

success!!!!
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb

Swelldisk isn't the best option AFAIK. Try to find in the forum, that was discussed, and few people lost their data from the SD.

laura_kim said:
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
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Sounds interesting. Can you explain how you did it.

THEY HAVE MANY TOOLS BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE IS IN POCKET MECHANICH AND IS CALLED "STORAGE"; IN FEW WORDS YOU CAN CHOOSE A FOLDER/APPLICATION ON THE MAIN STORAGE AND DECIDE TO MOVE TO A SD CARD.
any reference to this original forlder (also registry keys) change their behaviour/pointing action to the new "location"

laura_kim said:
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
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hello
I have the same prob
I have downloaded the progs you used
I don't know how to increase Storaqge mem. like you did...
Please could you tell me the procedures you followed to do that ?
Cheers

"I don't know how to increase Storaqge mem. like you did...", you can't. You can only reduce usage by careful planning...Install programs to storage card, configure IE cache and temp files to storage card..... Swelldisk only work on external storage.

move the cache and all the avaiable dll to storae card: it works

I found a safe way to achieve the above:
1. Create a folder Sotage Card\ Windows
2. Include this folder name in "path"
3. Freely move any DLLs into this folder from \Windows to Storage Card\Windows
I used SKTools for achieving this. I am not sure which DLLs may be required in original \Windows folder during reflashing ROM, though I had absolutely no problem in reflashing with all DLLs moved, but better to move back system related DLLs back to original path before reflashing.

laura_kim said:
move the cache and all the avaiable dll to storae card: it works
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Cache will be recreated if you move the contents to another location, so you dont achieve any thing, rather waste space on storage card. If you really want to do this, change the registry settings too.
Moving DLLs to another location without declaring location name in "path" is incorrect way.

i tried but i dont know how to Include the folder name in "path"

Nishann said:
i tried but i dont know how to Include the folder name in "path"
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Use SKTools free demo version

My Storage Memory Device FULL *@$&)%

I have been upgrade my XDA2 himalaya to newer wm6.1
in the memory properties i find a Storage Memory Device (internal) Total 14.54 MB.
and have just 300KB free space.
otherwise when i install an aplication, i always check and choice the location to install to the storage card. but my Storage Memory Device (internal) still minus.
and now with memory just 300KB left, i cannot install anything...
and my question, how to Increase my Internal Memory.. or there was otherway to able installing program again.
regards
aDoy

I have the same problem, can anyone solve this problem??
Thanks if there is...

Hi,
Please refer to this topic (sticky). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332215
There you will see the necessary instructions for increasing the storage space.
Regards,
P

30mb more
thnx pdc4...great info..tried it n it works great

Strange memory loss !

Hi
I recently bought a Samsung omnia 2. But a strange thing happened that prevented me from installing programs is desired. I am buying this phone was to install a large number of books, but after installing some programs from the phone memory is full and other books can not be installed.
This is strange ; when i install the program on my storage ( ~ 16 gig ) memory the same amount of memory reduce from internal memory ( ~ 150 meg ) ! until the memory become full and critical memory low notification appear .
in the installation process i choose my storage for installation but the amount of internal memory decreased !!
it means that i can install only 150 megabyte of these books . these books are about 1 gig !!
these book installation program started from desktop and continued the installation on my PDA phone . ( Skyscape medical book )
i have Xperia X1 but there is not any problem for installing all of these book
help me please
sorry for my bad english

These books are installed from CAB or an EXE on PC?
Are they in some custom format of PDF/DOC?
Are other programs/games installing fine or they decrease internal storage too?

Davka said:
These books are installed from CAB or an EXE on PC?
Are they in some custom format of PDF/DOC?
Are other programs/games installing fine or they decrease internal storage too?
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thanks for your attention
these books are installed from exe but final installation procedure complete from device .
any program installation ( from CAB files ) decrease internal memory too .
i think this is a mistake from sumsung for memory control to prevent huge installation of program !
help me if there is any way to correct this problem for me

I would try a hard reset because it's clearly something wrong with your system. If this not help you could flash another ROM version.
Or maybe you have some backup software running in background?
I'm using stock WM6.5 ROM and have installed ~250MB GPS software with no problems.

thanks
thanks for your reply
hard reset 2 times but the problem not resolved
my windows version is 6.5 stock and any backup program not running .
strange to me too ! probably hardware problem ?

Is this happenning when you're installing to My Storage (not Storage Card)?
Have you tried other microSD card?
It may be a hardware problem. Is your phone under free warranty service?

yes when i try to install on my storage this problem occured. because of 16 gig capacity i don't use memory card separately. there is a warranty service for my phone but it is not normal to me for service my only 1 month omnia !
I have my Xperia for 1 year without any problem and my previous motorola,nokia and sony ericson havenot any problem for years ! this is my first samsung devise and a bad impression

Try an application like Cleartemp or resco explorer (to empty recycle bin) to clear temporary memory .......

abdelrahim said:
Try an application like Cleartemp or resco explorer (to empty recycle bin) to clear temporary memory .......
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thanks , i test this way . hope for problem solving

The problem wont be resolved. This is happening because the installation path has been hardcoded into the cab file. So no matter what installation location you choose, it will install to phone memory, which is limited to around 150 MB. To resolve this problem contact the manufacturer of the software.

krazy_about_technology said:
The problem wont be resolved. This is happening because the installation path has been hardcoded into the cab file. So no matter what installation location you choose, it will install to phone memory, which is limited to around 150 MB. To resolve this problem contact the manufacturer of the software.
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Hi dear
there isn't any problem for installation of these book or other program on my Xperia X1i .
The installation location can be choosen for omnia 2 but after installation the amount of internal memory decrease too ! ( this is strange loss ).
i flash my xperia x1 and upgrade to win mo 6.5 , no any problem occured : i can install any program in memory card and my internal memory has it's amount ( no decrease ) .