Can't install .NET Framework 2.0 - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Hi all,
i have a fresh JasJar and i need to install the .Net Compact Framework 2.0 but when i try to install (main memory) it gives me an unknow error number 4.
I have a lot of free space in my device, approx 30 Mb, so where is the problem ?
I need the .Net Compact Framework to run IBE Mail.
Bye
nicoska

Me too. I've tried closing applications, but without luck

RE
Using ActiveSync may give problem. I installed using the cab file method
You can get the cab file ffrom here (near to the bottom)
http://www.gopherking.com/download/
If you cannot install try install WiFiFoFum with the CF installer Package. After that remove WiFiFoFum (if not needed) and you'll have the CF left behind
http://www.aspecto-software.com/xoops/modules/wfdownloads/newlist.php

Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.

cktlcmd said:
Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.
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Hi,
did you installed by .cab file or trough ActiveSync ?
thanks
Nico

nicoska said:
cktlcmd said:
Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.
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Hi,
did you installed by .cab file or trough ActiveSync ?
thanks
Nico
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I used the .exe file through active sync. I had reformatted my computer, I had performed hard resets numerous times on my EXEC and Net Framework 2 always installs without any problem to my SD Card and works very well.

cktlcmd said:
Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.
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Are you sure it's actually on the SD card?
I tried telling it to install to SD-card three times (uninstalled between each attempt) and practically nothing went onto the SD card - it just created an empty folder there. :roll: Took out over 5-MegaByte of main memory though and didn't recover all of that when it was removed! :evil:

astage said:
cktlcmd said:
Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.
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Are you sure it's actually on the SD card?
I tried telling it to install to SD-card three times (uninstalled between each attempt) and practically nothing went onto the SD card - it just created an empty folder there. :roll: Took out over 5-MegaByte of main memory though and didn't recover all of that when it was removed! :evil:
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YES, I explored my SD Card and it has a folder named NetFrame2 or something like that under Windows>Programs
I did not loose any internal memory. As of now after a soft reset, I have about 32MB of internal memory with 31 different applications installed. 26 applications installed to my SD Card and 5 system applications installed on my internal memory. No freezes, no delays, no missed calls, no loss of system preferences, switching from landscape to portrait or vice versa takes 1 second, so I am pleased with my settings.

YES, I explored my SD Card and it has a folder named NetFrame2 or something like that under Windows>Programs
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So did mine, but the folder was empty :?

astage said:
So did mine, but the folder was empty :?
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I didn't actually clicked on the folder, I'll have to check that the next time I sync. I just assumed it was installed there.

cktlcmd said:
astage said:
So did mine, but the folder was empty :?
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I didn't actually clicked on the folder, I'll have to check that the next time I sync. I just assumed it was installed there.
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I hope you're lucky and it worked for you!
Might be worth checking the \Windows folder, however, as that's where I found all the .Net v.2 stuff dumped. The .Net v.1.x stuff is in ROM, so I'm hoping that a future ROM update will have v.2 in ROM.

Pants - just noticed that CF2 folder on SD card is empty!
Any solution to this?
Cheers,
Steve
(Am using Opera - apologies for double spaces)

I've looked into this a bit further, and according to the guys at Microsoft http://blogs.msdn.com/netcfteam/default.aspx - the Framework will always take up storage space, and it wouldn't work if it were only installed on the SD card.
Let's hope that a future ROM release will include it.
Cheers,
Steve.

Here is what I noticed on mine. I just performed a hard reset. I started out with 31MB internal memory. I opted to store NetFramework to my SD Card which is around 5MB in size. So if what you guys claim that NetFrameWork does not install to the card is true, it should eat up the 31MB internal memory right? But I still end up with 31MB internal memory after the install. I did check my SD Card and found the folder there which is empty if I clicked on it. But, my SD Card has less memory than I started with, close to 5MB. So my conclusion is: It installs to the SD Card but maybe active sync does not allow us to see the actual file and size, so it appears the folder is empty.

According to what Microsoft say:
Installing NETCF V2 to storage card
While it is technically possible to redirect installation of NETCF onto storage card via standard Active Sync/WCELOD capabilities, it won’t save precious RAM on device. NETCF files have to be in \Windows folder in order for NETCF to function properly.
If NETCF is installed to storage card, NETCF files will be initially deployed to it. However, at some point they would moved to \Windows folder taking out exactly the same space as normal installation would.
In some cases attempt to use storage card would lead to installation failure due to some subtle storage card issues. Thus it’s not recommended to install NETCF V2 to storage card or embedded storage and there are no benefits of doing so.
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So try installing WifiFoFum (or another .Net CF2 app) and see how your memory availability alters.
Cheers,
Steve.

I also use WiFIFoFum and stored it to my card. It works great. After use of WiFiFoFum, my Internal Memory goes down to about 27MB, I already expected that. Closing all applications via settings puts my internal memory to about 29MB, also expected that as Windows Mobile 5 leaves some parts of the application open for faster reference the next time you open it up. After performing a soft reset my Internal Memory goes back to 31MB. So this still does not change my conclusion that NetFrameWork 2 was installed to my SD Card.

I had a problem installing .NET 2.0 and I found that if I rename/remove previous attempted installs (eg, the dir and files), my 2nd attempt is usually successful.
This goes for most any program that doesn't install properly. I've noticed that this usually happens to me after an upgrade of the same app.

cktlcmd said:
I also use WiFIFoFum and stored it to my card. It works great. After use of WiFiFoFum, my Internal Memory goes down to about 27MB, I already expected that. Closing all applications via settings puts my internal memory to about 29MB, also expected that as Windows Mobile 5 leaves some parts of the application open for faster reference the next time you open it up. After performing a soft reset my Internal Memory goes back to 31MB. So this still does not change my conclusion that NetFrameWork 2 was installed to my SD Card.
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Are you talking about "Program" memory? I'm talking about "Storage" memory - I don't think that's affected when you open/close applications or perform soft resets...
Cheers,
Steve.

StevePritchard said:
Are you talking about "Program" memory? I'm talking about "Storage" memory - I don't think that's affected when you open/close applications or perform soft resets...
Cheers,
Steve.
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Ohhhhhhh! My mistake.
Cheers mate!

FOSA said:
Using ActiveSync may give problem. I installed using the cab file method
You can get the cab file ffrom here (near to the bottom)
http://www.gopherking.com/download/
If you cannot install try install WiFiFoFum with the CF installer Package. After that remove WiFiFoFum (if not needed) and you'll have the CF left behind
http://www.aspecto-software.com/xoops/modules/wfdownloads/newlist.php
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Great that worked for me!! Many thanks!!
J

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Installing all apps to the SD card

I'd like to know if anyone has made an effort to install all their apps on the SD card and not on the universal.
ive installed tomtom 5.1 onto the SD card with my maps on, thought it would keep it all tidy and together,
cant really see any issues in installing all apps onto sd, maybe a bit slower??? not sure
I have (on my 2 GB SD) Listpro, eWallet, PhatPad, RDCalc,
Resco FileExplorer, Photoviewer, Radio and Audio recorder, MathTablet and more. They seem to work ok (Omega Journal Bar somehow prevents to install other apps so I removed that
I have (on my 2 GB SD) Listpro, eWallet, PhatPad, RDCalc,
Resco FileExplorer, Photoviewer, Radio and Audio recorder, MathTablet and more. They seem to work ok (Omega Journal Bar somehow prevents to install other apps so I removed that
I read that apllications, which have today screen plugins, should not be installed in a sd card.
Is this (still) true?
What about the folder "my documents", did anyboy sitched it totaly to an sd card?
What about ActiveSync? Can it sync whith the md-folder on an sd?
I read that apllications, which have today screen plugins, should not be installed in a sd card.
Is this (still) true?
What about the folder "my documents", did anyboy sitched it totaly to an sd card?
What about ActiveSync? Can it sync whith the md-folder on an sd?
MBastian said:
I read that apllications, which have today screen plugins, should not be installed in a sd card.
Is this (still) true?
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That's something I did not consider. I currently have resco and ms voice command loaded to the universal built in memory.
really would like to put My Documents on the SD.
Is that possible, without too many problems?
Huib
herpi said:
really would like to put My Documents on the SD.
Is that possible, without too many problems?
Huib
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no problems whatsoever
You shouldn't have any trouble installing most apps to the memory card. I would like to add that in addition to not installing apps with today plugins to the memory card, you should also not install apps that load automatically at startup to the memory card.
I tried installing Voice Command to the memory card once, and every time I reset the device, I would get errors when the device started as the memory card had not initialized yet.

I should install these applications in Main Memory or Storage Card?

I have installed HTC Kaizer Home Plugin, HTC X-Button, HTC Audio Manager, JUVS CommMgr6 button, reTouched Dialer, etc.
These applications I installed in the Storage Card.
I notice when i start my HTC Softbank X01HT, it become slower... until I have run most of the application, then only the speed become more stable.
So, I wondering I should install these applications into Main Memory or Storage Card? Will it be more stable if I install into Main Memory?
i just think that every app you installing tooks a small part of your hermes memory.... so as many startup application you have as you hermes will slow down
understand that.
what i worried is if i install those applications into storage card, it will load slower than if i install into the main memory.
will this happen?
wailoon said:
understand that.
what i worried is if i install those applications into storage card, it will load slower than if i install into the main memory.
will this happen?
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No, not really - except you turn off or soft reset your device entirely, then it takes a while until your pda read out all contens on SD card - other than that they load as fast as installing in the phone. I always install my apps on SD, except for system application, never had any problems.
It's my understanding that you should install programs that run on startup, like today plugins, into main memory.
This is so that if the programs are called to run before the storage card is initialized they are available.
I believe it was MikeChannon that said this...
intrglctcrevfnk said:
It's my understanding that you should install programs that run on startup, like today plugins, into main memory.
This is so that if the programs are called to run before the storage card is initialized they are available.
I believe it was MikeChannon that said this...
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Yeah, might be a good advice even though I never install in phome memory as long as I can avoid it. But you shouldn't take me as good example anyway (I never had issues with installing everything on SD card but I might have been only lucky up to now!)
How about this solution?:
Try to install your application on SD card first! If they do not run properly after starting up your phone then just uninstall them and reinstall them in your phone memory ...
The only 3 programs I installed in phone memory are:
SPB MOBILE SHELL (It won't install on SD)
RESCO EXPLORER 2007 (to be able to use Explorer, REGISTRY PLUGIN and FTP even when I switch SD cards or card fails)
Microsoft Reader (because of activation)

microSD data lost? Help!

I turned on my Hermes this morning and it started giving me a lot of errors on the today screen. They were errors regarding programs that were installed on the storage card and the device couldn't display everything (such as HTC Home, etc.) and locked-up. After a few soft-resets, still the same. I took out the card and put it in a card reader, but it seems that almost everything is gone from there and what's left, both files and folders, has weird names (»╣SöôdεÑ.z╕ë , ╔╞DGV)0.╡En , φE}░wx÷,.Γö6 , £#╚Ç3.3c, etc.). Also, the contents of the storage card show up as having 33.8 GB!!! How come?
What's to be done to recover my files?
I could hard-reset the device, but the data on the storage card is still gone! I don't care about the programs on it (I can reinstall those) but My Documents and other files that I had on it are important!!!
tibster said:
What's to be done to recover my files?
I could hard-reset the device, but the data on the storage card is still gone!
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Try an application like memmaid or stk tools (or perhaps other people have better ideas/applications) to repair the content. Don't format the card yet!
Good luck
Optimistisch_nl said:
Try an application like memmaid or stk tools (or perhaps other people have better ideas/applications) to repair the content. Don't format the card yet!
Good luck
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But there's nothing I can do with the device, since it locks-up, it doesn't synchronize with the PC... I actually had MemMaid installed, but the device does not respond. Also, MemMaid was installed on the storage card.
After hard-reset, device working, but still have the same problem with the storage card data (corrupted, lost?).
tibster said:
After hard-reset, device working, but still have the same problem with the storage card data (corrupted, lost?).
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So install a 'repair utility' on the device and see what you recover on the SD card.
btw, I NEVER install an application on the SD card
Optimistisch_nl said:
So install a 'repair utility' on the device and see what you recover on the SD card.
btw, I NEVER install an application on the SD card
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I have MemMaid installed on device, now. What's next? There's no data recovery tool in it (is there?).
I always had lots of programs installed on the storage card and had absolutely no problems (until now). I usually do that because the device memory fills-up tooooo fast. I had my Hermes for about 1 1/2 years with no problems of any kind.

Apps installed to storage card wont run from start menu

Hi all,
This always happened to me. In winmobile 6 and now 6.5. For some reasons since yesterday apps which installed to my storage card disconnected it's link or short cuts in the start menu. Now all of the apps in my storage card i can't access from start menu. when i clicked the app icon in my start menu my HD2 responded
"Cant open XXX. File is not registered or not trusted in digital signature, or can't find one of the files elements. Please resintall or restore this file."
I have to go to the file directory in my storage card to run the apps. This is very annoying and very inconivence. Anyone knows why? What's worse is that all of the new apps that i installed to my storage card has the same issue... Which means i can't no longer install apps to my storage card...
Help?
Use file explorer to find your chosen program icon /copy it
Still using file explorer go to device/windows/start menu/programs and paste shortcut using left hand bottom menu
Job done ! Rename it if you want !
DISREGARD THE LAST MADE AN ERROR !!
Use file explorer to find your chosen program icon /copy it
Still using file explorer go to device/windows/start menu/programs and paste shortcut using RIGHT hand bottom menu
Job done ! Rename it if you want !
if you go to file explorer can you read your sd card? I had the same issue and it was the sd card that failed so it could not read/find the program it was looking for. Try for kicks copying over some apps to a different storage card and retry. It will at least eliminate that possibility.
Yes, HD2 can read the SD card, and i have to go to the SD card location to run the apps. Just can not access from the start up menu...
InRBigness said:
if you go to file explorer can you read your sd card? I had the same issue and it was the sd card that failed so it could not read/find the program it was looking for. Try for kicks copying over some apps to a different storage card and retry. It will at least eliminate that possibility.
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veryh2o said:
Yes, HD2 can read the SD card, and i have to go to the SD card location to run the apps. Just can not access from the start up menu...
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So, install to phone mem instead and problem solved!
Anyone else can help? I think install to the main memory is not a very good idea.
pa49 said:
So, install to phone mem instead and problem solved!
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I had the same problem you described. It happened after some old program I launched got the phone stuck and I had to pull the battery out to do a reset.
After the boot completed, I started to receive errors when trying to launch programs from the storage card. Uninstalling wouldn't work and reinstalling always failed.
Replacing the sd card didn't help either.
I believe that something corrupted the registry.
I finally gave up and hard reset.
The only good thing that came out of it was getting a new 16GB sd card for me to use.
My happened when i installed a lockscreen cab to my HD2 to the main memory. After that everything i installed to the storage card wont run from the startup menu.
Really? some dude told me to reformat my storage card. I'd rather do a hard resert cuz i have alot of crap in my 16G storage card.
I haven't gave up yet so i will still try to look for my other options... Thanks to know at least i am not the only one who encounter this fu**ing problem...
sg001 said:
I had the same problem you described. It happened after some old program I launched got the phone stuck and I had to pull the battery out to do a reset.
After the boot completed, I started to receive errors when trying to launch programs from the storage card. Uninstalling wouldn't work and reinstalling always failed.
Replacing the sd card didn't help either.
I believe that something corrupted the registry.
I finally gave up and hard reset.
The only good thing that came out of it was getting a new 16GB sd card for me to use.
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help anyone? running out of options...
veryh2o said:
help anyone? running out of options...
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Gave up and hard reset a couple of times, and i found out that the reason i can't click the icon in my start menu to access the apps which i installed in my storage card. It was because of i change the local and Text. I changed from Taiwan to USA and HD2 will not let me access the apps from start menu. This is very wierd, but if i change back to Region: Chinese Taiwan, then my HD2 is ok again... Just to share with you guys...
veryh2o said:
Anyone else can help? I think install to the main memory is not a very good idea.
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Why is it not a good idea? Its what its there for so use it!

Memory problems on HTC HD2

I bought the Telstra version of HTC HD2 and flashed the ROM to version 1.66 with Arabic support. What I have started noticing is that after installing several programs, my storage memory started running very low (now down to anywhere between 3-6MB while my free program memory is >160MB) even though I have setup my Windows Marketplace to install programs on the storage card, temp and cache files are as well as Email attachments are stored on the SD card and actually more than 80% of my program are installed on the SD card but I believe even when you tell a program to install on the SD card, portion of it has to install in the main memory.
My question is what to do about this situation (BTW, I have tried apps that clear the RAM and they work temporarily and, obviously, as I use my device the memory goes down and then I have to re-run that program to clear the RAM again). Is there a way to change the memory allocation between storage and program RAM like we used to do in Windows CE?
Please advise?
sktools helped me free up 50mbs
TheSkilled1 said:
sktools helped me free up 50mbs
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Thanks a lot TheSkilled for this great advice. This program works great.
work through this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
saved my usefulness of my HD2

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